the coaching really started while I was in college and I was just doing some individual sessions with some younger players around town you know making a little bit of money but also experiencing that environment and it's just it was another opportunity to be around the game moving past that obviously then I have my first fall with Swan while in Madrid I got the call take the job at the College of Charleston you know it was funny I don't I don't know if you've ever been to Charleston Chad but it's uh it's a pretty beautiful place and I went into into the bedroom and I told my wife yeah I have this opportunity it's in char she's like already in the bedroom packing her bag ready to go I'm like slow down I haven't gotten any any true offer yet but that just tells you how great of a place Charleston is ended up doing 3 and 1/2 years there from there was fortunate enough to bond and go to the University of North Carolina I spent about 8 months at the University of North Carolina and got the uh the offer to come to Duke which you know of course there's the whole rivalry thing going on there but uh I think in the end everybody understood it was it was a good opportunity for me and for where I'm at in in my career