Destiny's FULL twitter debate with Kat Kanada

um well there's they are floating around I've seen some of those y do you understand that do you understand that this is a problem that you have absolutely no [ __ ] idea what's going on in my country what's going on in my let me finish please then you can go talk as long as you want you don't know what's happened to my country you don't know what's happened with my government you don't know any of the things that Donald Trump has been involved in but I bet if I go through your Twitter I can find 50 million videos of Joe Biden uh with this stupid [ __ ] open mouth or or or slurring some word do you think that's an issue uh well I think the president Being Fit is an issue yeah for sure what about being an insurrectionist I don't believe he's an insurrectionist oh what did I just lay out then that either doesn't qualify for Insurrection or isn't true from what I just said or if you want you can admit that you have no idea what I'm talking about and you need to go back to the drawing board before even beginning to have an opinion on this topic um well I can have an opinion because Free Speech exists so I can say what I want to say um you know first of all no number one no you're a Canadian you have no guarantee of free spee number two that's obviously not what I meant you obviously are entitled to an opinion I'm saying that was a shorthand for uh to have a well-formed opinion that merits consideration you're not even aware of any of the major events happening in this country I don't know how you can have a strong opinion on on whether or not Donald Trump is an insurrectionist or not well I see what the media says about uh the current events and I see the media pushing and saying things like to serve his country President Biden should drone strike Donald Trump and to me that seems uh like not very appropriate thing to say for for uh you know as an advice for the current sitting president and that doesn't seem like a strong uh uphold of uh democracy or decency as they would say because they said decency was on the ballot if Rachel mattow told you that walking on sidewalks was dangerous would you walk in the street no then why are you citing me something that the media said and then giving me your foure do you have children do you react to everything like a child if the media says something you don't like it do you just take the opposite position without giving a single original thought yourself into what you're actually being told or is your entire ideology defined by reaction no no I'm not ideologically possessed um I agree with certain things that sometimes the Liberals say and I can disagree with certain things that conservative do I it's not it's not yeah it's not like I I watch uh you know State Canadian media and take the opposite stance of everything to say because twice twice a day a broken clock is right so it's not an issue for so then let's I think we can going back to the uh the inserection thing uh if I had if every part of what I laid out was true if Donald Trump slated false electors in States had that sent to Congress and knowingly gathered a crowd of what 50, whatever people and then sent them to the capital building in the hopes that they would protest to pressure the fake electors being chosen do you think any of that qualifies as an Insurrection would I have to be an expert in in Insurrection law to state state that one way or another but you don't have to be an you don't have to be an expert in Insurrection law to say confidently that it wasn't well perhaps you're right about that but um I you know I like I said I refer to his actual words um that he put out on social media and on video saying that he's requesting for peace and you understand that that came after he was begged for hours while he and his crony corrupt [ __ ] Giuliani made phone calls to sitting congressmen inside of the lock down building right that he was calling them pressuring them to delay the certification of the vote it was hours after that that he finally went on Twitter when the Insurrection had failed and said okay guys we need to go home uh well like I said I wasn't following it 247 why do you have an opinion on it well you wer following 247 you were following at 0 you have no idea what happened on any of this why do you why do you think you should have an opinion on any this well I told you I can have an opinion if I want you can but but then you people should like make fun of you and like Bully the [ __ ] out of your foot right you have literally no idea about any of this it wasn't that what our original tweet was over is that I think I called you a didn't I call you a hack [ __ ] it seems like I was correct right you have absolutely no idea about literally any of these issues yes okay maybe I haven't followed the case as closely as you have but I hold on not closely you don't even have any idea you have no concept you don't know anything about what I'm talking you don't even know when an electoral vote is do you of course I do of course I do it's it's what the United States has for their electoral process we have a similar process here in Canada it's not majority vote it's not democracy it's a constitutional republic okay if you know what an electoral vote is do you think it's acceptable for people to try to fake them like Donald Trump did in seven different states well like I said what is the evidence that he faked those what what is your evidence for that what would you want to see what if I could show hypothetically stuffing ballots and bringing out bags and security footage from uh places where people voting and they were putting up tarps over the windows and uh are you aware are you aware that every single one of those was investigated um and that every single one of those was heard before a court and that they every single one of these except for one was shot down a lot of them by conservative judges that Trump himself or at least his administration appointed uh well like I said I was wasn't following this case 24/7 so no I wasn't following the procedures that came out of that okay but you you've seen pictures of it right are you embarrassed or ashamed that you've had like strong opinions about this because of pictures that you've seen because of dip shits like Elon Musk feeding you lies on Twitter Dustin you don't have to be that rude I'm being really respectful I'm not sure no no no wait wait I just hold on I just I I need you to understand something so much okay you're not being respectful you're actually [ __ ] evil okay this idea that you can walk around and as long as that's great I don't care the idea that you can walk around and as long as you say the worst type of [ __ ] imaginable in a nice enough voice that you should be treated with respect is absurd right in no other function in life would anybody ever be treated that way you have no concept of anything related to the Insurrection you have no concept of what's even happened aside from what you've seen I guess on Twitter in the media but you're out here tweeting along with every other uh insurrectionist supporting [ __ ] in my country about how Donald Trump is treated unfairly in the media and and and Joe Biden isn't fit to be president like you have no idea what you're talking about for any of this though hey do you think it's okay for uh Joe Biden voters to you know make like a life-sized uh version of trump and like put a fake Guillotine over him or to hold up bloody severed heads of him and things like that do you think that contributes to anything that's happening in the states nope I think that uh to the first question I would say no that's not acceptable we're uh we're Democrats or protesters doing that outside of the capital building except instead of a guillotine of Trump were they talking about Mike Pence and were they doing that because the president of the United States said that they needed to pressure Mike Pence and that when Mike Pence wasn't accepting the pressure he tweeted out that uh penes failed us did that happen do you remember any of that or is that another thing that's conveniently mind from your bra saw that tweet so I saw that you don't have to insult me like there's there's no need for that um I saw that tweet and I saw some people uh calling for Mike Pence for for whatever they were calling for him uh I don't be clear hold on just to be clear they were calling for his assassination Insurrection thep Donald trp and set I don't believe that a few crazies represent uh the majority they do but they do why why would you say that the president called them there in a speech he gave them exactly the words that they needed he said that Mike PR Pence is the one who needs to toss basically the the the uh election for us he's the only one that we can rely on uh he told them that we need to make sure that our El slates are counted uh and then he sent them to the capital building to pressure the I guess the people there to to do whatever it is that they were supposed to do which was to steal the election but did he did he tell them to call for his assassination did he did he incite them to do that is that what you're saying like did he incite them yes he laid out every single oh okay I'm sorry ma'am so he needs to say the exact words you need to go assassinate someone for him to be culpable in that case you would agree then that there is not a single Democrat lead in leadership that you would hold responsible for any amount of violence right unless are you going to show me um are you going to show me some kind of tweet or video of a Democrat saying we need to kill conservatives have you seen a single one of those um I've seen some crazy statements coming from uh Democrats that I didn't ask for crazy statements I didn't ask I asked were there explicit calls for violence where they said we to go kill conservatives okay so like I don't have a photographic memory I believe I've seen similar things maybe not by El Democrats but Democrat voters say excuse me Democrat voters what does that have to do with anything I was talking about the president of the United States and now you're going to appeal to an average everyday citizen like they have the same level of of moral responsibility political culpability but Trump did not call for his followers to go and do something insanely violent yes he did he called for them to go March to the to the capital grounds and to protest the certification of the vote in the United States of America to prevent the peaceful transfer of power which is what they did for some number of hours a protest isn't a protest is a legal proceeding you can protest peacefully um unlike did they protest peacefully I believe they did um the building um I I watched a guy saying we need to go into the capital and people were around him saying no we do not need to do that there was law enforcement nearby they were saying um you know this this is what these crazies are saying you need to do something why aren't you do so no they didn't because I actually watched the videos ma'am have you seen any of them have you seen any footage that doesn't come from Tim pool Elon Musk Steven Crowder the daily wire uh Tucker Carlson have you have you watched any original reporting on this whatsoever or have you literally exclusively watched whatever conservative [ __ ] down your throat no no okay so then let me ask real clearly wait wait real clearly how did the first how did the first people get into the capital building can I can I respond U would you consider CNN original content or like like what do you I'm just curious if you watch any non- rightwing like any actual reporting on it not like a pundit do you consider CNN in in plac CNN is a News Network there are pundits that are on CNN just like Fox News is a News Network and there are pundits that are on Fox News there's reporting which is when people do reports usually there are cameras involved and then there are pundits so people like uh Tucker Carlson or Anderson Cooper would be a pundit yes I understand what you mean okay I'm just I was just trying to clarify so you're telling me that there's video that exists of people violently approaching the building and breaking their way in is that what you're saying I you you're you can't you you can't honestly be seriously asking me that question are you not aware that it is uncontested that the first people that went into the building broke in are you telling me right now that you don't believe that to be the case well I'm just asking you if there's footage of it that exists is plenty of footage yes and now I'm asking you are you under the impression that the first people that got into the capital building that they walked in from what I've seen they were there was security guard standing they were people were walking in and I I even recall I hope this is accurate I even recall some saying I don't agree with this but he was just letting them walk in so yeah that's what I saw and I the only violence that I saw that was happening like broken windows or the guy shouting there standing I think his name was Ray EPS I think he was standing and shouting and saying we need to go into the capital and people around him were appalled at what he was saying and they you're not true that's not true you're lying and you didn't see that okay you saw that the night before no because I'm sorry I watched all of these videos with rabs it's one of the favorite of you conservatard okay to try to blame everything on him like no there is you need to be you needed to be bullied so much more in life okay Jesus [ __ ] Christ okay uh the videos of I know enough about you I know enough about you to know that your opinion is worthless and that you are one of the strongest Arguments for why there should be an IQ limit to actually get onto social media and Post opinions about politics is that is that what is that how Free Speech Works Destiny no unfortunately I guess not like are you for free speech generally good thing on a social media platform that's privately own corporations have to host every single thing that's set on them well I view the space that we're currently on Twitter as the town digital Square so I believe Free Speech applies should apply on on this platform because no one stands in the Town Square anymore it's it's kind of an outdated concept so this is what okay and if I declare your basement the Town Square can me and my friends go hang out there and like have some drinks why why would I care what your individual determination is for some particular space online you realize that it's totally irrelevant to anything that exists in law or the Constitution right okay so how do you see free speech then so you see that this platform is I have I have absolutely no desire I have no desire to discuss this topic with you um maybe for another time but uh do do you you're unaware then because I can start linking you like video like for all the violent videos that you saw of people that were breaking in or of people that were fighting cops or whatever where do you think that came from do you think it was like just lifted from Baltimore and they said it was the capital building or uh like there there was a crowd of people in front of the White House so what do you mean like lifted from Baltimore I don't understand what you mean can for the people that were breaking in how do you think why were they breaking in I saw Windows being broken and um I saw people saying what are you doing and then I saw uh law enforcement being around and not doing anything about it and I presume the law enforcement that's there um on the grounds of this official building uh you know should have done something about it but they didn't and that was confusing and so and the people that the majority of the people were there as you said protesting under allegedly Trump uh directing them there to go and protest and be violent and whatever it is that you said like I um you know I think they were appication of the vote well why wasn't there enough like if people thought that he was so bad why wouldn't they bring reinforcements it's not really relevant to the to the question why not not doesn't have any it doesn't contradict any of the underlying facts for example you know people like Pelosi and all all the I'm sorry excuse me no that Pelosi has nothing to do with this if your strongest counterargument is well maybe II should have called for more guards to fight against Trump's insurrectionists I mean like what the [ __ ] kind of argument are you even making I don't think he called for insurrectionists again but if like said call what were they going to protest can I just finish a thought can I finish thought so like if these people who were saying Trump is literally Hitler and he's the devil and um you know he needs to be taken out or whatever it is that they said um like if that was their belief about him and they kept saying you know Hillary said he's an illegitimate president and all these things um wouldn't wouldn't like their first instinct like they said he's a threat to democracy he's a dictator he's this he that wouldn't their like instinct be to on the day where they would you know they thought that he would do something crazy to you know make sure there was enough guards to make sure there was enough uh people to stop some of the some of the when when Hillary said that Trump was illegitimate president what was she referring to when she said you even know do you even know what speech it came from or what she was talking about yeah she was talking about Trump and she was saying he knows he's an illegitimate president like that sounds like election denial to me okay well it's not you should go look up the context of like some of these speeches rather than just going by the tweets that you see that are show okay so help me understand so I don't wait wait no no hold on what I want to help you understand first is I want you to watch this and I just want you to talk through with the I want you to talk me through this okay at like go to 15:30 and tell me what what are we what are we watching What's Happening Here what what do you mean like you sent a link you want me to go open a link is that yeah are you on a computer or a phone right now I'm on both okay I want you to open this up and we'll just go to 15:30 and we I just want to watch a little bit I just want to watch together uh I just want to see I I want you to give me your take on what's actually happening in this video which link is it there's three links here the last one I sent you you can read the other person your own time or not you probably won't it doesn't matter okay it says okay it's 40 minutes long yep go to 15 minutes and 30 seconds we just have to watch a minute or two let me know when you're there and then we'll start it at the same time okay I'm watching it oh wait what time are you at uh 15:25 okay wait we can start at the same okay ready sure three two one go M okay so people are Marching with flags y just curious what you think they're going here to protest um the the results they believe that was stolen from them ah so they're going here to protest the election okay is protesting illegal I didn't say did I say that this was illegal no I said that this is overall as part of an intruction why is this guy kicking why is thisy Ki stop don't divert hold on don't divert protesting in it of itself is obviously not illegal I'm asking you what these people are going here to protest for I'm just curious if you have an idea hold on wait I pause go back to at 1556 why is he breaking that window open when the cops are supposed to be opening it for them at 1553 you have any idea well like I said I watched them break windows and I watched other people telling them not to do this oh okay so okay well at what time you at right now 1554 okay well we'll start again in three 2 one go oh there's the door hm oh they broke that one too that's crazy crazy where are the cops here that are let them into the building do you know where they're at at this point where are they why is there not enough it's a good question if his that doesn't matter though that's not that's not that's not that's not relevant the question right now is what's happening outside how are they getting into the building before you told me the if you want to change the claim to there weren't enough officers there we can have that conversation but you said earlier I'm not changing the claim I I clearly stated there was not enough officers and clearly there was yeah I agree with that yep a barricade okay we'll keep watching I'm at 1653 now seems like they're trying to push some cops back no yeah are you there y okay oh we've got o okay so do do the cops look like they're leading them in here would you would you have that impression no they don't they don't look like they're leading them here at all okay okay yeah just checking I can I can uh acknowledge when I haven't seen some footage before this is I'm not like I like I said I'm not ideologically possessed to say to excuse anything and everything like I can admit the fact that you haven't seen this means that you are so ideologically brainwashed you're like in another dimension yes yes you absolutely are I'm sorry do do these cops here the guy with the Baton that's hitting the people do you think that he's letting them in peacefully clearly not there's okay okay making sure okay the gates here that are being pushed over was that by the order of the cops oh you see the cops walking back now do you think that they're letting them in peacefully now now are the cops leading them in or do you think they're retreating from position because there are 50,000 Savages that are in front of them that have all been riled up from Donald Trump and marched like a mile away to come to the capital building to protest the election results or or or were they just letting them in you have any idea okay so some of them were let in some of them approached without uh without being uh held back by the law enforcement okay well now we're coming to the building okay is this guy banging on the window the one that broke it there are these guys being let in right now that guy doesn't look like it hold on oh now when that guy jumps in and the cop is spraying what is that silly putty I guess it must be Adam or whatever because they're playing games here are there already people being led into the building at some other spot at this point or the first people in the building the ones that broke in there's a few people that broke in yes the first that got in brok correct um so so okay so just to get back uh no no wait wait first I want to hear you say the first people that got into here broken correct the first few people it looks like some of them um were pushing their way in and no no no no no no no what do you call it when you push through a material and you break it that's called a Breakin they broke in right so I just have a quick question for you um like you you seem extremely angry about all of this and you're fighting with a lot of people on Twitter you're insulting people on Twitter y I am um so um do you think that uh any of what's been said by the people in the last four years like I said demonizing Trump and celebrating um you know the people celebrating the attempt on his life do you think that contributes to what uh to what was happen happening um in 2020 uh no maybe a little maybe 1% the issue you have is because your problem is you're saying too many people are demonizing Trump have you ever stopped to think well maybe he's acting like a demon people are treating Trump like he's a dictator have you ever thought that maybe he's actually acting like a dictator the fact that you're not familiar with anything that happened on you don't know any of the evidence you don't know you don't know the entire Jack Smith indictment you didn't even know the first people that got into the capital building broke in why would I care what you know you clearly know nothing about any of this yet you seem to have a strong opinion about it I don't think I don't I don't think that's correct I think I know some I think I know uh some things I wasn't following like I said it wasn't following it 247 without sleeping or reading full indictments but it's or reading any part of an indictment right can you be honest about that you haven't read a single sentence in any of the four indictments that Donald Trump is facing in the United States right well I guess it's only three now because one case is done hopefully it gets tossed thank God for the Supreme Court but can you admit that you haven't read a single word of any of those indictments no before that can you please I need to hear you I need to hear you say that first so that we're on the same page and then I'll answer whatever question you want you haven't read a single sentence you interruped me when I was trying to talk to you about him being a dictator you say he's a dictator he's acting like a dictator yeah um did he not uh relinquish his uh you know his loss after a failed after a failed Insurrection so no he didn't relinquish it he lost his Resurrection attempt and then he walked even though he said uh be peaceful we're not violent and all those things you still believe that he you you not believe you you assess for that to be part of him inciting an Insurrection yeah yeah of course because I have a brain and somebody saying in one sentence walk peacefully doesn't magically nullify the entire hourong speech where he's telling people you have to fight like hell no a single sentence in speech does not nullify the entirety of the speech because guess what if I look at what happened right after the speech do you think it's a coincidence that people went there marching chanting 1776 on the day the election was going to be certified and then they broke into the building and they delayed the certification of the election was all of that just a coinci so you think the words fight like hell is problematic but you don't see other words as problematic when they say I'm I'm so sorry no no I don't evaluate this like a four-year-old I'm not looking at one sentence or one word because know what you to say Well when they said fight like hell what about when Nancy Pelosi says we need to fight and what about what no it's not the same what I'm saying is that taken as a hole Donald Trump called people here on January 6th to do this speech while they were certifying the vote he riled them up he tried to rig the election and then he sent them to the capital building to protest where they broke in where they delayed the certification of the election which was his goal and he made speech for his country is H is them ring riling his base up were they going there to protest were they going there to protest pardon what were they going there to protest they were going to protest because they thought the election was stolen from them unlawfully that's an Insurrection no it isn't what do you think it means if you go to protest because you think an election was stolen well Hillary thought it was stolen as well Hillary Hillary gave up that night Hillary gave up that night how many court cases did Hillary launch to challenge the election results can you tell me how many how many people how many powerful people wanted her uh you know wanted her kept out of power did how many court cases did Hillary trinton Hillary launch to challenge the election results did she have an entire barrage of media and elected officials demonizing her and um doing the same thing that they're doing to Trump trying to prevent her to uh from being elected did did that happen to Hillary how many court cases did Hillary Clinton launch challenging the results to the election but did she have such a forceful uh barrage of like I said media elected officials and including their base uh you know just veniant opposing calling her the devil you know saying all these things yes the Republicans have been doing it for years yes what do you think the email Scandal was about what do you think the Benghazi hearings were about by the way hearings that Hillary Clinton sat through gave testimony for like 12 hours and an investigation that she fully cooperated with not like the insurrectionist uh traitorous president the US who invoked executive privilege at every single opportunity who pled the fifth at every single opportunity and who has now been granted absolute criminal immunity for some of his actions so that he never has to answer for any of the things that he's done so to go back one more time I answered your question to go back one more time how many lawsuits did Hillary Clinton file challenging the result of the election I don't know did she file any not a single one okay um so they said when did Hillary wait wait when did Hillary uh concede election it was within one day do you agree with that I was following closely then so I don't know I just know that called illegitimate president that's great I know yeah I know you got those good talking points in I like how that by the way I like how that one sentence that's enough for you there but one sentence from Trump saying fight like hell and then afterwards there people going fight like hell that doesn't mean anything to you that's very funny to me f fight like hell doesn't necessarily mean or uh break windows or anything like like that when you say why is it wait wait wait wait let's say I agree with what you just said okay sure why is it then that when that started to happen and when staffer after staffer went in begging Trump hey can you call off your siop fantic Savage can you tell me why Donald Trump didn't stop them if they weren't doing exactly what he wanted to do why did Donald Trump and Giuliani make phone calls to lawmakers inside of Congress telling them hey maybe you should delay the vote maybe you should push it back a few days why did he do that if that wasn't exactly what he wanted his protesters to do how do you know what he I'm re just you know the conversation is over right here until you answer that question or give me an alternative thing I'm not answer this game you have to tell me what was the point because it seems incredibly obvious Donald Trump gave a speech they went to the capital they broke in they delayed the they delayed the certification of the vote which is what Donald Trump apparently wanted them to do and for hours while they protested breaking Windows breaking doors breaking on inside he sat and he watched and the only phone calls that he made while people were begging him to tweet to stop the violence were to try to pressure lawmakers to delay the vote tell me why he did that why did wait for hours give me one possible explanation that doesn't satisfy my story his mind I I'm not a mind reader I can't ascribe motivation to his thoughts that I don't have access to Destiny why did you assume that I was angry I watched you stream like I you you you speak fast and you know you obviously come prepared you have your talking points so like you hold on to be clear none of these are talking points if you want we can spend I'm streaming until I got 4 hours so if you want we can dig as deep or I can even just link you because I've got got whole documents that I've written on this whole scheme and this whole plot I've read every single indictment from top to bottom I've read every single criminal statute involved in the indictment from top to bottom and I've read basically every written about these indictments from top to bottom so no I don't have just talking points that's what you have when you say Hillary Clinton said that Donald Trump was an illegitimate president and also I have no idea what happened on January 6 or in the entire leadup to the Insurrection for what Donald Trump did so no I don't have unfair statement it's an unfair statement to say I have no idea what's going on because you didn't know anything about the elect the whole scam do you know anything about Mike Eastman and the coup memo or what their plot was on January 6 what do you think Donald Trump was talking about when he said that's seems obscur to me oh well that's crazy because it was literally part of two of the massive indictments that Donald Trump is facing that he's probably gonna get away from now because of the criminal immunity has been granted do you think that the Jack Smith indictment is obscure do you think that the Georgia RICO case is obscure is it obscure unless it shows up in like a a Twitter headline or a Tik Tok video for you I don't use Tik Tok okay where the [ __ ] do you get your news from that the the most important stuff that's happened in this country related to this election and and the current ongoing criminal cases are obscure trivia to you you know that like the federal government hosts these indictments for everybody to read right I would say that's obscure to a lot of people people that aren't terminally online like people terminally online I'm sorry hold on hold on you think that knowing what's in a Federal indictment for a prior sitting president makes you terminally online no I I think wa wa wait can you admit that what you just said was right tell me it is actually reasonable that maybe for I'll let you slide cuz you're can can you it is it is reasonable that an American I don't care I don't care I'm I'm so over I don't care I don't care you're trying to me or not what you're doing is so much worse you don't see how evil you are speaking politely you think that gives you cart blanch to act like the scum can you tell me it is not unreasonable for an American citizen to be familiar with what is in a criminal indictment for a past president that's not a terminally online thing to know can you admit that um I have to disagree I think most people don't sit there reading through indictments okay who do you think should maybe the people that are spoon feeding you the news that you consume maybe at least they should have to read it do you think what do you mean people spoon feeding me news people can consume news however they however they practice like sure but I mean it's obvious for your news consumption you look at a you look at a media feed that feeds you headlines and then you read that and that's where your opinion is formed from so the people that are feeding you those headlines don't you think at least they should read the indictments just one second just one second I don't need news headlines um I can assess information for myself when I see it what is the last piece of original not digest information condescending about it no I you deserve to be condescended to my country anything that's happening they're like okay well I'll go and have a reasonable conversation with this person okay so I don't think you're having a reasonable conversation with me I think you're being extremely rude I've been respectful to you um I've indulged in clicking on a link that you've asked me to look at I've agreed with some of your points um I disagree on your assessment you know I I just don't like I see you you know become extremely disregulated and and you don't even know me and you're telling me that you know you're telling me all these things about me that I'm this and I'm that like I just I don't think that's is you know a productive conversation I've told you you're you're beyond having a productive conversation also you're not the first you won't be the last woman to use a psychological term on me don't worry I'm uh immune to it at this point um what psychological term disregulated uh the fact that you have no concept the fact that you have no concept of any of the any of the stuff that's even in the criminal indictments do you understand how absolutely the people don't even know what our president or our ex president was charged with they don't even know you don't think that's insane like I told like I told you uh there's people who follow this case momentum attacks to you know discredit my viewpoints and the things that I was not using I discredited your viewpoints by saying how stupid they were and then I pointed to the fact they probably happen because of your news con I'm Sor what point of yours do you think that I didn't discredit on a substantive basis just because I'm calling you names doesn't mean I'm aan and homonym I can both call you names and substantively disagree with the things you say can you give me one thing you said I is calling someone names and calling them stupid yeah no I'm sorry ma'am but an ad hominy is when you dismiss a person's argument by appealing to a personal attack if I say you're wrong because XYZ at homonym that's just me calling you a name after substantively disagreeing with you so if you if there's a point that you feel like you made that I didn't address feel free to tell me and I will address it okay as I said uh I I don't think there's such a need for insulting me um that's I don't think that's called for but maybe we can dis agree to disagree on that uh ad homonyms don't help don't help in my opinion but um yeah I'm I wasn't prepared for you you being like as as angry as you are I that was do you understand that from my perspective we are looking at a decent chance of the next president being a guy who at least from my point of view launched an Insurrection against the government that's where we're at right now and everybody around the world is so interested in defending this traitor and then when I press them on it okay whether it's you whether it's the uh Constantine guy who throws his Ukrainian family under the bus to suck off [ __ ] pu whether it's one or two sentences okay without saying something right that all of these all of these people all of these people he's subhuman scum okay that all of these people are interested in defending this guy and nobody knows the substance of any of what he's even charged with do you do you understand how frustrating that is as an American who has an vested a vested interest in seeing his country at least not turn into an authoritarian dictatorship I think it's far-fetched to say that if Trump is reelected through the Electoral College like you said uh would be um what was the word that you just used like dictatorship why do you think it's far-fetched because like I said I don't believe he acts like a dictator you don't okay how not well do you think that for instance do you think a dictator would prevent the peaceful transfer of power I don't think he was trying to prevent the peaceful transfer of power he called for peace he called for Law and Order he said we are for Law and Order so to me so every single every single violent protester that was just random that they all went and violently protested the certification of the electoral vote well okay again oh she's about to do the BLM thing she's gonna go what about BLM yeah go ahead do it I'm just getting ignored so go ahead no you're not getting ignored although BLM did mostly peacefully protest with fires in the streets okay hold on do you agree that BLM was mostly peaceful no you're you're actual subhuman trash you think that the majority of the BLM protests were violent I saw a lot of America burn under BLM protests the major there were like millions and millions of people protesting for for like a year you think the majority of those were violent you're actually dering if you think that I didn't say majority I said I sawm protests that were violent that were I didn't ask what you saw YouTube I majority of them were violent and uh and anchors from Outlets that were reporting on the grounds such as CNN I believe it was that yeah I know I saw the same one yeah I saw the same meme image don't worry I've tweeted out before it was real funny yep I've seen it fiery but mostly peaceful do you disagree that it do you do you agree that you can call a protest that involves burning down police stations and streets and storefronts and where you know people have to put up signs saying we're a blackowned business please don't burn us down we support Democrats don't smash our Windows do you think you can call that mostly peaceful you know what cat whatever I would call that I would never utter it in front of you because you don't even deserve to get that concession you don't even deserve to have me accurately assess that you when you won't even when you won't even for a micr second why should you admit to or concede to any of these things when you delusional unhinged cowardly spineless what happened on January 6th like the it's like the most open world the thing that when Donald Trump tries to defend himself he says I need criminal immunity to not be in trouble here right so no I'm not even gonna conceed Desy um okay thank you for that Dade uh do you do you see anyone that okay you say I'm not worthy discuss the the stuff related to Donald Trump and the Insurrection that's what I came here to discuss anybody here wants to jump on that then sure yeah we talk about some talk about B on prot some other point we can but I probably agree with most of them but the difference is is the left is generally willing to critique their side the right is beyond critique you guys are incapable you're unfathomable when it comes to critique your own side it is absolutely true no I have seen people criticize on oh shut the [ __ ] up no you haven't please stop please please shut the [ __ ] up you absolutely have one tweet one tweet where somebody's like oh well I didn't agree When Donald Trump had you know a blue tie on and said it was no red Power tie it's not a true critique okay get the [ __ ] out of here with [ __ ] okay you don't have to swear at me like then don't act like a [ __ ] [ __ ] don't act like an idiot no I'm not goingon to sit here pretend like the right criticize itself okay I'm not acting like an idiot Destiny like you don't you don't have to be then you are an idiot or whatever and it's coming out naturally whatever however you want to phrase it my bad okay so if if okay forget about the BLM you don't want to talk about that fine uh you think um I didn't well hold on I didn't say I didn't want I said I didn't come here to talk about it if somebody wants you to BLM at some point we could do it I didn't come here to talk about I take it back I you said you didn't come here to talk about them acknowledge that fine no problem um if you let me finish uh can you discuss these points with someone who you think is worthy who maybe has a bigger you can yeah you can voice as many [ __ ] people as you want in here 100% sure go for it okay so we have some speakers in the room they're willing to chat so um you know whoever if you want to put your hand up there's Lauren there's Clint he came up first so yeah I just had a a quick question for Stephen because you know he's his screenshots I'm blocked so his screenshots of his tweets yesterday have been going viral and I I'm just genuinely curious if he is at all concerned with the trajectory of political violence escalating um you know the his reaction his immediate reaction well I I I imagine that much of it was in justest um is obviously very inflammatory I'm personally concerned about the the climate in this country I think that we're inching ever ever more close Le to a potential you know Civil War or something crazy like that uh is that is that a concern I mean you talk about Insurrection you talk about the dangerous president of Donald Trump and and where this is all headed are are you open to political violence at this point because it seemed like it and I don't that doesn't strike me to be your character so I wanted to clarify I am very concerned about political violence in this country and the like road to political violence and you conservatives have been screeching for it nonstop so I'm not going to be the the cuck on the left at you your guys' terms I'm not going to be the cockled on the left who is crying and screaming for uh pump the brakes guys no no violence it's civility time blah blah blah while you guys on the right engage in the most absurd forms of reality denialism uh while you guys say that uh January 6 was a peaceful protest when you guys say oh the witmer thing uh that was all the FBI uh the pipe bomb stuff oh that was all fake uh the uh like you guys won't take responsibility for [ __ ] anything and you're supporting literally the most divisive [ __ ] president in all of recent history and you guys are saying well it's just [ __ ] epic and hilarious when he owns the libs and when you've got Biden who is like when it comes to rhetoric the most milk toast [ __ ] guy in the world I don't even know if this guy has a [ __ ] mean bone in his body and the only picture I see of him posted over and over and over again is him with a close-up shot where there's a red white and blue lights in the background and it's just the red and you pretend he's a dictator [ __ ] you I'm not going to be the one calling for the oh guys we got to be civil like no [ __ ] violence no that's [ __ ] [ __ ] you guys can lead the way on that one because you sure as [ __ ] have led the way on getting us to where we are now well Stephen you debated me last year in Tennessee I was I ran for vice president of the libertarian party I'm not a conservative at all so uh well your ti raade May land with a different audience it's not going to work on me really hold on wait I'm sorry who who are you supporting this election who am I supporting I haven't I haven't declared any support really what what are you leaning to if ibody to go through your Twitter how many critiques have you made of Donald Trump versus how many critiques have you made of Biden what do you think about guess well seeing as Biden's the president it would probably be a lot more critiques towards the sitting president oh yeah but not the one that's coming in that's running for president that was also a president for four years I've been very critical of Donald Trump so I'm sure yeah okay the name of my show is liberty lockdown I'm very very disappointed in the 2020 era so uh odds of me supporting Trump openly or otherwise are pretty slim but setting that aside I'm glad to hear that you are concerned about political violence in this country I I just at the same time I don't understand your rhetoric yesterday or your response to the violence you know basically applauding the the loss of a voter for Donald Trump in Pennsylvania it's uh strikes me as to put it not as hard as it struck that guy um just curious so I'm just looking through your Twitter okay you said it is a tremendously fraudulent case brought against the leading candidate to be the next president uh you thought which of the four cases against Donald Trump you think are fraudulent and why employeed to hide documents from Nara and then the FBI right or did you not know that because you haven't read that in dond you have a strong enough opinion about it to tweet about it I mean that was a lot of assertion without actually allowing for me to answer uh yeah I realize that there's intentionality do you think that there was no intentionality with uh with Biden having hundreds of documents at his house I'm just saying that the two cases aren't comparable the huge aspect of what Trump is being charged with is the obstruction charge because he told his employee to hi do you think it's at all at all odd that that there would be this level of Investigation into Trump but not into Biden I honestly I do think that the Trump stuff was really odd I think the FBI should have kicked his door down a year earlier I don't know why the [ __ ] they waited so long they gave him a year to turn those documents over to Nara and he he he shunned them he ignored them he lied to them and he had his employee move boxes around okay like a [ __ ] fet running through a maze before the FBI finally caught win that there was some [ __ ] going on do you think that Nar didn't give him enough time to respond why do you think he didn't turn the documents over when they asked okay same same question for you why do why do you have zero concern about Biden possessing classified doc but you're totally up in arms over Trump I don't understand I'm I'm going to keep asking until you answer the question why do you think Donald Trump waited a full year to turn those documents over to Nara I don't know why do you think he told his employee to hide them I I don't I haven't seen that that's been proven that he told his employee to hide them what's the evidence for that it's literally laid out in the indictments from recorded conversations or do you think the FBI is just making it all up well the FBI did the FBI did lie to the fisa court to spy on his campaign before he entered the White House so yeah they everything up in the indictment oh okay made everything I don't think they made up everything what do you think about why should I trust the FBI okay then don't then I don't know why the [ __ ] I'm talking to you if you don't trust any of the ins or any the investigat bodies why did you why did you say anything about the you should have opened with that you should no Destiny I only trust what I read on Twitter I don't trust anything from any of our three letters I don't trust those guys just open with that next time and then we don't have to waste any time like you know I already told a Libertarian so you could have assumed that but yeah true that you're [ __ ] because it's basically one part parcel of the same okay you don't need to insult people I don't understand why you need to do that okay let's take a question uh sharica Soul has her hand up sharica you can un unmute yourself Destiny I just have to say that you are an adult male and the way that you're talking to some of the women in here well cat specifically is actually really disheartening to listen to also I am black and I'm kind of tired of white liberals denying the violence in the black community and using black lives matter specifically protest who by the way black the black neighborhoods that have the protest they end up being destroyed and trashed and it's not you that come to the neighborhoods and helps clean up those neighborhoods after a protest so for you to speak on black lives matter protest and say they're not violent or whatever you were trying to say is disrespect it's disingenuous especially to black women who have to live in those neighborhoods and the black children thank you as a black woman for showing up to show that retardation can transcend both gender and race [ __ ] you're the white man I don't know why the F what do you think I'm speaking of for BLM this conversation is about BLM I don't know why the why don't even know who the [ __ ] you're talking to right now I C what I want what do you mean I can say the [ __ ] I want it's fre disrespectful disrespect what this is my this is this is your [ __ ] Twitter space you're not here to tell me what I can say you're not say your mouth you're a white man don't people need me I'm going to be the white for I love BLM I'm the leader of BLM I'm theint leader yes I love BLM oh yes black panthers I'm GNA join it right now oh keep it real black people black men are violent towards black women and we don't need people like you constantly using us for political talking points mind your own business and quit talking about a race that you don't know nothing about we don't know you you neighbor are you lost are you lost right now how did you even wander into here are you okay right now uh distress and you need to get on medication and stop talking to women crazy you only talk like that because you're behind a screen if you were there and she had a whole bunch of men standing by her there's no way you would keep talking to her like that you're a punk grow up thank you sharica thank you so much for your valuable contribution okay noted okay um let's try to keep it civil guys let's just try to speak with each other with not talking over it's hard to hear when you know she's trying to speak and you're just going BLM BLM and we can't understand you guys you know it's hard to hear I'm sure you know this like I I shouldn't have to explain that but one at a time would probably be best and maybe if you didn't come to speak about BLM you don't have to you don't have to speak about it if you don't want to Destiny that's fine large Mansions do you know about that yep I got the largest one and I only invite my white friends to hang out in it can't you at least just like laugh laugh it off without being so angry like this is I'm not angry will impact you you know in any meaningful ways can we can we at least like Bond of a mutual disdain for Pearl Davis like come on maybe maybe just like light-hearted maybe that's okay that's progress I'll take that I'll take that I I like that okay um does anyone else want to jump in to say anything or to ask a question hey Lauren yeah I mean hey I'll make a comment um oh boy listening to this I will say I think there is a serious problem on the right right now uh not just the right politics in general with people not actually reading the documents people getting their information from memes I actually do think it's a little atrocious that from my side of the political spectrum and what I read on my timeline I don't hear more about the Trump indictments and the actual documents going forward to be something I'm going to be doing going forward is actually reading those indictments because I think it's important for when debates like this happen and C we can read them together we'll go over it together do a little sessions good I'm in I'm in but I will I will also say this disregard of actual research that is pervasive in the political sphere is the same reason I got cancelled and called a genocide denier for stating that no bodies existed in the alleged indigenous Mass graves in Canada I'm sure a lot of people remember that story none were ever found but that lies persists and you know church is burned to the ground and the country put into Havoc millions and millions of dollars of our tax money spent on this cause and all because a bunch of people decided to believe memes over doing actual research and I get being upset about it believe me I was upset about it I had uh death threats in my inbox threats towards my family my children and this is genuinely destroying our countries and democracy this lowi information kind of Engagement with politics but but but I'm also aware that the people who haven't done enough research haven't done enough reading on these subjects aren't necessarily evil and shouldn't be discounted entirely even if they're the ones that are sending me threats I apologize I'm in an airport right now hopefully you guys can hear me all right we can hear you we can hear you yeah so you know in some cases these people are my family my lifelong friends that I've had that completely disagree with me on these topics that I think are sometimes ill informed on these subjects and I think that uh they're deserving of respect to some degree to some level just because my country has been defrauded by our government into believing Mass Graves and genocide exist that didn't happen and I've received threats you know I that doesn't mean I have to treat every lectus cruy nor laugh or Mark or celebrate if they uh they're killed especially when they're innocent and we're just showing up to a rally and I think there's a much better approach than the one that Stephen has been taking particularly when uh you know I think the fact that this guy was tweeting out uh Putin worship was makes it the most [ __ ] hilarious like misfire that could have possibly happened deser to get I didn't say he deserve to get shot I'm just saying he doesn't deserve any sympathy for it okay and it might worn a laugh too I think you'll find that people care a lot more what you have to say when you acknowledge that they might be human that they have some Integrity that you can kind of show a little bit of respect I mean you've got family members that would agree with this guy I don't think you laugh at them being shot I what my mom and dad taught me [ __ ] around and find out as like a first principle of how to navigate the world so if they ended up going to a [ __ ] rally like this cheering for a [ __ ] inter dud or whatever yeah they deserve it 50 times over they served in the Air Force they know better they took an oath to the Constitution to serve this country not to serve a [ __ ] King why the [ __ ] I don't know why you guys ask me this question what have it happened to what have it happened to your parents yeah if they went to a crazy [ __ ] rally like this if something happened to them it would be sad I'd probably personally sad what the [ __ ] do you want me to say like what what do you expect to happen wait you think attending a political rally is a [ __ ] [ __ ] around and find out scenario come on I think that supporting a prior president that engaged in Insurrection yeah I'm tired of pretending like that's just like a normal ordinary thing that you're supposed to accept as as an American citizen that's unhinged that [ __ ] insane to me I have a question can I ask you a question do you honestly think that people despite like yes I have seen the tweets mentioning the word King do you think people want him as king for real you don't think you do yep like what what causes you to make that conclusion except for them be a single conservative commentator that had anything critical to say about the criminal immunity case show me one that even [ __ ] read half actually but show me one find me one and maybe I'll believe it no just one sec I wasn't talking about that I was talking about your belief that his supporters that Trump supporters uh would literally make him King if they could yes they literally call him Emperor Trump yeah it's all a j that fight for so the people that that believe they're fighting for freedom and to preserve the constitutional republic that