you've you've you've connected some of the dots when you talked about you know Rihanna's father right like he allowed her to come over there because we would always think like how could a minor be doing these things and obviously we would never say anything but you've connected so many unanswered questions and stuff that that that we would talk about you know that you know we were too scared to like bring up it's like wow you know because I didn't think of Rihanna as a human I thought her as a [Music] client real life Street know what time it is just with openness as far as even with you guys be speak on the I don't want to call them the horrors but situations that happened in the 90s in the early 2000s that led into you know still happening now see the what makes me so dangerous is the fact that I've been in this business since I was 13 years old that's over three decades where I am a first witnessed account of abuses systematic abuses what made me speak out after 20 some odd years is that I were watching the same things that happened when I was a kid happened over again to newer younger artists that's why they try to make people from my generation irrelevant they want to box you out of the game they don't want us computer literate they don't want us relevant because we get to warn the future and Jonathan that's why I said to you I don't even think you realize how much you were covered because most of the jobs you did were probably covering crimes that you didn't know you were covering get about the baby mama spin this story out make sure that they're focusing on this so they're not focusing on the home invasion that happened for the guy who was at the party too long and stayed long enough to see this assault you know what I you know what I'm saying it's the spin game kid right and if they're spinning it it's a distraction and it's because they don't want someone looking in another direction right I'm wearing Fenty I'm wearing Fenty tonight for your girl looks great you want to know what's crazy Tasha K sat online last week and did the worst makeup tutorial I've ever seen in my life pandering to people um about how she was giving up Mac to wear a Fenty what do you think about that really yeah I don't I don't Thursday I I don't I don't I don't really know honestly anything she did it on her backup Channel yeah she was busy pandering yeah they uh they wanted me to come on their show but I I didn't oh what made you change your mind um I got some inside information did you see what happened with brother bile that was such a tragedy you know B brother B mhm well you know they did that big expose where they kept out all the real [ __ ] up [ __ ] and only a bunch of salacious stuff about gay men being gay men and they didn't talk about the kids at all you know just like I know Jonathan children are the biggest victims in this game definitely child stars are the biggest victims in this game because usually everybody's working against them yeah kind of like aiah wait till people find out who was working against her that was supposed to love her and protect yeah you said something very important though tonight and I heard you reference it on more than one occasion birds of a feather flock together correct if Jay-Z is friends with R Kelly and does business with R Kelly and parties with R Kelly if Jay-Z is friends with ddy and does business with ddy and parties with Diddy Jay-Z shot three videos on fene island with supermodels that were under the age of 18 that were provided by Naomi Campbell andan the Harvey Onin like I said you didn't realize you were saying but it's a very very very old ad birds of a feather flock together correct you know and it and and honestly it's been you that's like because everybody would wonder like you know what was going on and you've youve you've connected some of the dots when you talked about you know Rihanna's father right like he allowed her to come over there because we would always think like how could a minor be doing these things and obviously we would never say anything but you've connected so many unanswered questions and stuff that that that we would talk about you know that you know we were too scared to like bring up it's like wow you know because I didn't think of Rihanna as a human I thought her as a client I didn't think of her as a minor I thought of her as a client and as an artist that I know in La that they had taking her out and taking her to all the parties and clubs they didn't find out that she was underage until they went to the rainbow room one night and she couldn't provide ID they were told she was 21 when in all actuality she had just turned 17 you remember when she was in LA right after on the replay broke that was around the time where they were moving you out and putting her new handlers in right that's that's that's facts that was up really uh she needed you she needed her original team and they were removed y'all to make sure she had nobody to outcry to right and then we were almost blacklisted oh no absolutely blacklisted they didn't tell you you were blacklisted it's just the jobs that you used to get easy all of a sudden there were other people there was a new Direction there were restaurants you used to eat at that were always sold out your table wasn't available it is the shun yeah exal shunning and then when people that you know know who you are start talking about you behind your back in ways that they never did and all of a sudden their career begins to elevate yeah it's social engineering the sad thing about it is every last rapper that you said [ __ ] you over also happens to be a government inform it yeah why would you think that you had a chance against these people when everything that they do the government seems to ignore it seems like they were Untouchable because you didn't know that they had a deal right they had permission to act like [ __ ] and never have to be accountable for it or so the government said so they get to [ __ ] over people like you and people like me and people like Aaliyah people like Rihanna people like Lauren Hill people like rockim people like Nas you know what I'm speaking Yeah I'm but even back in in 2005 when we had spoke to the FBI yeah I didn't I didn't think of her like see if you were willing to testify against him so they would know whether or not they were going to have to move you around but I didn't even that's why you were questioned by the feds right that's why your transcripts are on the dark net yeah they're trying to see where they need to go to clean things up yeah but you know Jaguar when I was more than you think you do forgetful unless you want to be a material witness yeah or you could just come back here in real life on this couch and me and you can talk about a couple of things that I'm sure you have forgotten right you love to you know said um man Jonathan uh we appreciate you for even giving us a tad bit of your time your knowledge and your experiences in this industry and um we would be honored to have you come through and actually sit down with us and go through even more history again you had an industrious career there are highs there lows but all there is at the end of the day is your truth and how you perceived everything that you took in and what's going forward so um and again thank you Jaguar right for even being being able to bring this to fruition I got to I gotta send shout outs out number one we got two YouTubers that follow all of us here that are always on our content the Jamal AKA Jamal guy and the Jacob the Noah Jacob TV got really really really interesting but it was messy Sweet Spot our transgender sister who uh pull this man's collar and it was because of that that Odell reached out and Odell's right here Jonathan yeah and I'm glad he did because we needed to have this talk for sure and to hear you say that my position and my stance made it possible for you to feel safer to come out and say all the things that you're saying yes ma'am I I feel better about the sacrifices that I've made because everything that I'm doing I did so you would feel safe enough to come out yeah and listen let me let me tell you this let me let me tell you this before we go like you you know it's hard to see the picture when you're stuck inside the frame and so everybody I know knows your name and knows your story so your word is getting out there more than you realize so like amazing props for what you're doing you know and you know breaking through and inspiring people because like I said you you inspir me because I've wanted to come out because I felt like an [ __ ] like even even like this is the last thing but when the police were talking to me like I said I didn't think of her as a minor and I got I got so convicted I was convicted like oh my gosh like you know what what have I done what have I been a part of imagine somebody putting that beautiful 14y old girl of yours on a plane and saying hey do whatever you want with her it sounds unreal doesn't it it's crazy so when the artist a commodity they stop being a person the second they signed that contract yeah they're the ones that put food on the table they're the one we need to break this Rihanna record so we can eat so we can go on vacation so we you stop seeing and that's that's the way the game is set up right we're GNA keep on talking I hope you talking to me still for sure I would love to I'm I'm I'm here for you whatever you know we we definitely we definitely need to talk in person yeah you know we need to whatever I can help do you know get Justice whatever I can do to support Rihanna deserves Justice correct and as someone who was there at the beginning of her career who took such great care to get her there she shouldn't have been stripped from her team right her from her protection no different than a rose they went into the garden and they stripped the thorns and they pulled it out and they've been ripping petals off piece by piece year for year correct change that y yes ma'am for her yeah and for every other child girl like her and you know you're do listen you're doing this same thing that dream Hampton did when she laid out the R Kelly case for the prosecutors to finally after 20 years go in charge you know dream is one of Jay-Z's Girls too yeah but I'm just saying the way that to do that right are you serious yeah yeah because he wanted to take him out her to do surviving R Kelly and bringing me to just like he loaned his lawyer Spiro to Tupac's family so that they can get to the bottom of his alement as if he doesn't already know call me we should I will I will for sure yeah with that being said um Jonathan uh for those thank you guys so much well thank you so much thank you if you don't mind uh for those who want to because you could Google they google Jonathan hay if y'all question anything that he's saying Google his career but if Google it before they start scrubbing it off the internet um if you're active on social media please tell them how to follow you if you don't mind Jonathan uh my Instagram which is like the worst name in the world is my name Jonathan hay celebrity I hate it but it it's stuck so there it is you know um it's supposed to be like celebrity PR but it's just johnan a celebrity so every time I'm around people and that's for my Instagram it's always so awkward for me you know because it's like oh my gosh you know so look I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm a freedom fighter and I'm an advocate for you and I'll do you know whatever it takes you know for for justice and these kids right I'm here we didn't have to know where you come from to know where you're going and uh Jonathan I appreciate you for giving us the timeline history for those that don't know providing an inside look as far as everything that happen so uh again until we uh have you here on the couch uh again we can't wait to actually accompany you and have you here and you know bring you know go all the way through there but with that being said y also know Jaguar wght y'all can follow Jaguar right um Cru to freee austry um you know you already know the game here so thank y'all for tuning in and Jonathan we appreciate you all the way all right thank you so much guys if anybody [ __ ] with you reach out quickly I will I I have help I can send all right all right thank you so much all right well hey Jonathan you we gotta say it we we want you on the couch first but until you get there right now virtually you are realiz Street star we gonna have you on the couch soon all right all right thank you thanks again guys seriously thank you we [Music] out shout out reality street Stars [ __ ] Mo hey