Spurs Diehards TTID. Player Ratings, Spurs vs Everton. Chat Channel Q&A.

[Music] [Music] all oh hello and welcome to the Tuesday edition of Spurs die hards TTI Topman to I die uh tonight we've got a good group of guests for you we've got a few topics to discuss what's not happening for us in a transfer window we do have some Spurs news for you uh we're going to do players ratings where we hope to involve the chat to give them marks what we'll do the players ratings each week for each game is we'll let them roll over and at the end of the season we'll take the average for all the players and see where they stand and I know it'll be a little bit skewed because fans have their favorite players and they have their favorite pet hates as well but we hope that it'll average out because what normally happens in the season if a player plays well in the last five or six games he's everyone's favorite it looks like he's had a better season than someone else anyway that's that um yeah so we uh yeah we without further Ado then we'll move in we will discuss the um Everton game as well I know Ian discussed it Sunday but I'm sure these guys will have a different take on it so without further Ado I'll introduce AJ how are you AJ I'm good my friend I'm good thanks for having me on and Phil another guest regular guest Phil how are you yeah great Adrian great to be back on the show again let's get into it Mark Mark mod mod Mark the sheriff who make sure the chat runs smoothly how are you all is good Adrian all is very good yeah busy day that's okay Sheriff send him the link if has wants to come on he's welcome yeah yeah yeah I already have all right I'm fine and uh so if you see him below let me know soon you site him I'll bring him in no no no I I can't see none of that Adrian all right okay all right all right okay fair enough so let me go to the banners and put the team up okay that was a team right uh so AJ what did you make of the team I'm sure you were as surprised as I am about what you're going to say but go on what did you make of that team I was surprised to see basuma back in to be fair um I'll stand by what I said before I don't think that one game is a is a suitable punishment but you can only if you're given a chance to make up for your stupid Behavior you have to take your chance and he did that very good display great goal contributed to the team um I thought it was a very attacking lineup I thought I thought he went he went very attacking which surprised me but I liked it I liked it was a positive setup he wanted to win the match he wanted to win the match convincingly and we did did exactly that so yeah I mean in in regards to the setup that's all I have to say about it really right what we do on our podcast is we start with a discussion on the team then we do the first half second half player ratings blah blah blah so we don't want get too far ahead of yourselves in your replies yeah so good evening has good to see you uh hey you're right team in front of you what did you think of that team any surprises um the one surprise for me or two actually was the fact he started kesi with Madison I didn't really expect him to do that and that's something I praise him for because it shows that maybe he has leared something that you know against Low Blocks we should be playing Madison with koseski because we need more than one created player in there um especially teams like Everton where um it's probably a good game to test it out as well because the quality let's be honest is not very high with that Everton side so it's a good you know good try out those three together but the biggest surprise to me was him staring Oda I didn't really expect him to do that um because he just joined the club um but it was kind of like a welcome surprise because he did all right I thought um obviously I didn't really see any end product but I thought at least he saw the willingness to try and take on players so that was better than some of the other Wingers we've got so um that's then again that's not a very low very high threshold to really meas things but um he's only 19 so we just see what happens with him I guess Phil your take on the starting lineup um basuma um actually on the last show I said that basuma um would probably start this game regardless of what he we' done in the past um I think we sort of needed him in in Midfield because Bon core obviously being injured so I think he was the only senior s midfielder that we had who could come back in and try and prove a point and I think it was quite a bold quite a brave move from post to put him back in um and it did pay off um 100% um I don't know if you could put the banner up again I can't couldn't see the uh the players again yeah um would be I thought that was Brave as well by by an thought you know putting a putting a 19y old kid I know he's played in the Prem before but he's uh you know he hasn't played much in the Prem and to throw him in you know on his debut was was a brave move and that that also paid off um I thought he did very well um again it's his debut let's not go too mad you know it's uh you know he's going to have other games as well where he can improve so let's just keep a f on the ground with Johnson I don't know how he's getting into the starting lineup every week um he he needs to be benched in my eyes and I think the only the only thing he's good at really is coming off the bench and and and being an impact player he can't really start games at the moment his his confidence is shot um and I think it's a hindrance on the team if he does start in in in the uh in the starting La so I'd like to see someone else in there um like a Kulu or someone like that on the right hand side we'll come to that later on mod all the other all the other players really we we're you know we're um we're an easy pick m your take on the line lineup yeah it was is to be expected I mean I think B got in because there's nobody else to be honest you know it's the case of having to whether you consider his punishment to be sufficient I don't think you know when we we've had the discussion I mean you know it's a case of having to you know so that's immaterial whether his punishment was severe or not you know or sufficient but you know it was good to see OD you know he did okay I'm sure we're going to come on to that yeah so the was a Lifeline for him wasn't it for basuma but he took his chance he took his chance yeah he did take his chance I I wanted to get lose four match ban but well yeah yeah but but like you know needs must at the end of the day yeah if it meant like we would have lost the game if he didn't play which I doubt anyway but uh yeah uh so AJ your take on the first half game one wasn't it was all a bit wasn't much to scare us we had a couple of scares but game one was it ever and AR a very good team and they showed that they're not a very good team but you can only perform against what's in front of you and we did that we performed very well I keep hearing that we're not great and they're rubbish so we we beat them easily because we're expected to but by that logic the man cities the arsenals the Liverpool is are going to be beating them 8 nil right by that logic they'll be seven eight nil because if a crap team like Tottenham can beat them 4-0 because they're rubbish surely the better teams in the league are going to walk it yeah they might they shouldn't even turn up I think we played very well the performance we put in everybody with the exception of Brennon Johnson performed everybody I want to see us with that same intensity with that same style with that same hunger I want to see us do that against Newcastle great it's a great time to be playing Newcastle they haven't been great and we know when they're in full flow they've got the players to hurt us especially at home this is a great time to be playing we need to build on what we've done against Everton take it into that game put them to the sword get that game out the way and then look ahead to Arsenal okay has your take on the first half well we just did the job already um obviously that was a pick for mistake for the sun goal um which I mean I I praise son for like chasing him down because he was kind of doing it all game um from the front so he kind of earn the goal partly cuz but pford looked really shaky throughout the whole game um apart from that little sequence with the um the corners they had I think it was like you know all hands on deck I had my heart in my mouth for about 5 10 minutes um we just about survived that and after that I don't think Everton really did anything else um apart from Dwight Neil I didn't really see any threat from them um calv Le I think is a shadow of the player he was during that one SE season he had where he was like really good um and I think basuma I'm one of the people like you a and who didn't want to see him play but you kind of have to praise him for taking his goal and one thing I'll say is I was very happy to see us taking I don't know it was a massive amount more shots than outside the box from before because I don't see the like statistics and the eras they do this you know these things on but it was nice to see a score for a goal from like that from outside the box because we tend to try want to walk it in and I think Bima did all right overall but I'm sure he about the individual players later on so Phil your take on the first half I thought it was um I thought it was quite a clinical performance to be honest I thought it was um very professional uh performance from from Spurs I thought obviously before we were odds on favorites massively um but I was just pleased with with the clean sheet as well um and also putting our chances away early on and killing the game off which we don't seem to do in games re on recent times so that was you know all all them factors were were good to see um I I see a lot of see a lot of fans that are playing down um the the team we were playing at the end of the day Everton are a Premier League team I don't think there's any easy game in the Prem um and I think we we should give the team a lot of credit for for getting the three points over online and being convincing at the same time so I think I think we need to praise this team when they are doing well even if it's against a team that we we should be beating but you you need to get you need to get the three points at the end of the day um and there's 11 players against 11 so you know I'm just we got the three points in a clean sheet and we move on to Newcastle good evening Colin uh we just talking we just started talking so we're just talking about the first half the other yeah everyone's out to St on the first half up Mark how you Colin right okay so Colin what was your take on the first half you did so first half first half against Everton yeah yeah um sorry hold on I've got to adjust my volume I can barely hear you cats um I'm sure it's my fault here um let's try it again yeah that's much better okay yeah F first half was exciting um you know uh it like like uh like like I heard uh you guys talking a little bit ago it was Everton you know um but you got to beat him how many times you know um do do we come out and do we do we draw teams that sit back um no I thought I thought the first half was great I know that there's a lot of people that are um I don't know upsets the wrong word but there's a lot of people that are uh thinking that we're overhyping OD bear uh and and yeah probably a bit but it's the first um Tottenham type of player I've seen in a while a player that gets you excited a player that makes you stand up and go what's going to happen next and and we've needed that and so that was really nice to see I thought that alone was nice um yeah he didn't yeah he he didn't put up uh you know crazy crazy numbers or anything like that but he yeah he he he got me excited which was something I haven't you know taught him I'm not always excited by the football we play so that was nice um I thought you know we were defensively good I thought basuma had a great match uh besides his goal he he um you know we we've been clamoring for that that number six and I think basuma could be that guy if he can continue that that form you know that he had against Everton and you know it's only Everton you I hear it all the time um I have a feeling the same people if we get if we get a result against Newcastle I think the same people will say oh when Newcastle were just bad so I mean we we've got to take it we've got to take the good if you can't be happy with a win you know what what what can you be happy about so yeah no I thought the first I thought the first half was great um about there was a a couple of times where I got really scared after the first goal you know so there there are uh negatives you can't it wasn't all peaches and cream you know um after our first goal was it they had a a succession of Corners that absolutely scared the pants off of me uh you guys probably remember that you know they they and and so there's work to be done clearly sou sh and get [ __ ] out yeah I bet and and big old tarkovski in there it seemed like he got his head on to everything and um so yeah there there's plenty to work on but I I did see stuff that that made me happy and that that made me feel like uh I was watching the Tottenham of old which is nice because you know I think we all support the team because well for one I mean a lot of people were born into it but but they play we miss the exciting football we miss the you know uh guns of Blazing go all out do everything you can um give it hell and and and we did and and I like that and uh so yeah yeah back to you okay good evening saen welcome to the show we've only just started we're just get we've getting everyone's take on the first half there's only me and Mark to go but as you're as you're you can go you can go before him yeah what was your take on the first half I'm just going to say what everybody else has said so far look we we can only beat what's put in front of us um but I thought we played well I thought we looked good um you can only look as as good as the other team can either make you or let you so we we played an Everton team that allowing confidence that made mistakes which probably helped us even more um but I thought there was quite a few positives um I thought there was some negatives with a couple of players but look it was what it was um we kept a clean sheet both halves I know we're only talking about the first half but you know it was a professional performance that's the way I look at it Mark your take on the first off and I'll give you mine yeah all I got to say is can we play and every week you know because to be honest no no no no no no what I'm saying is not negative right and like Everton have got to be the worst Everton team I've ever seen they are struggling they are struggling and I'm I'm sorry if there's any everon fans watching but I fear for their team this year in the Premier League I really do but having said that Tottenham played well you know but it's like everyone else has said you can only play what is in front of you and we dealt with them you know I mean let's face it they were put to the sword and that's all you can do okay my take on it was I think we even overhyped the first half P performance a bit the reason I say that is because we started very brightly at bris sort of pace we got the second goal and you could sense being our Spurs fans they wanted a third goal before half time but we did I think we we relaxed a little bit after we got that second goal we weren't as urgent going forward and that was coming up to half time um and I thought through the rest of the game I know we talked we'll talk about second half of a minute I thought we played within ourselves and we got the goals and the goals came because there was no real pressure on us we had a few scares viari only made one save back to you Phil second half what did you make of the second off uh it sort of ped out really it wasn't I think the game was already done um before before uh you know before it kicked off in the second half to be honest with you I think I think we killed it off um first half well second half was just I don't know just damage limitation really it was just for for everything it was just you know a pretty easy coasting um performance in the second half I don't think there was much to go off to be honest with you um couple of good performances um but yeah I mean there's not much to say on the second half really first half was done AJ you're Tak on the second half pretty much what Phil just said I mean we had the game completely under control we did like there was nothing really coming back from Everton nothing um my highlight of the match the thing I loved the most was Mickey van Deen and his 80 yard run and it wasn't even it wasn't even just the fact that he has got some yet propelled lightning boots I don't like the Run was intelligent he ran he drove at the heart of their defense and he drew four players to him once all the four players had come to him he released the ball to son son took a great touch slotted it home but that run that run was incredible and I don't care who you're playing against I don't care who you're playing against that run to pick up that ball from the edge of your own area to run Gallop past four or five players to bring four Defenders to you and to have the wewi all for a center half to lay the ball off perfectly to son I'm sorry but for me for me that was that was the the best running running with the ball as well AJ do you know what I mean like ding from area I absolutely and that was after and that was after we were worried that he injured his knee exactly that and anyone that's hyperextended their knee I've done it before it hurts it hurts and he he ran it off and that run showed his strength his pace and his intelligence as a footballer so for me that was the highlight of the second half of the whole match true s good job it's a good job he didn't have the afterburners on wasn't it otherwi he over taken son yeah he didn't even break a sweat did he he just ran he ran and ran and ran left him off for dead and then I think it actually AJ you're quite inaccurate it was actually 8012 meters he ran make sure you get it right AJ Ellie had the measuring stick out yeah it was incredible wasn't it it I was talking to my brother about it right and I said like Eric Lamela and Lucas MOA they did more or less the same at Wembley right not so unique as band avenge run but they didn't have no end product or they didn't have the intelligence to look up and find their man a lot exactly I'm not saying all of the time because sometimes they did but most of the times they didn't all right and it was incredible wasn't it it was like a Sonny run and everybody was cheering for Van Deen at the end of it because it was like he scored the goal saon you take on the goal and the Romero goal typical Cy won it it was just exactly what you expect from him and hope he's going to do a lots more of um the vaner girl look I've heard everything from oh it was only Everton oh we played a [ __ ] team he wouldn't have done it against the top teams oh he was a b was goal of the Season you know you hear everything but I think AJ just summed it up there it was it was a dominating run it was to the point it was clinical the only thing that you would say is sunny nearly [ __ ] it up didn't he um he was quite lucky with the Finish to be honest with you um but look I mean now we're on to the second half I will say as well I am so pleased for Puma I think he I wouldn't have played it I think he needed more of a ban but I am so glad and he was so humble the way you know he bowed to the fans and then went to hug um an poog kind it kind of felt like uh you know I'm sorry but there you are type thing thanks for sticking with me um but the whole match now you know now we're on to the second half look we played Everton Everton are reporting but we were clinical we were professional we clipt a clean sheet we won 4-0 and anybody else that wants to give it [ __ ] then I'm not interested anymore I'm fed up of all the negativity around this club we've won 4-0 why can't we just freaking celebrate for once without having to dissect all the negativity that you can find within a match yet Brennan Johnson was [ __ ] right move on Full Stop yeah you know with won 40 we're we're two games into the season and we haven't we haven't lost a game yet but we you know as a fan base and I'm talking about us all not just individuals it's like we've got to look for the the doom and glooming it and look if you think I'm the problem well that's fine I think you're the problem as well so let's move on that's it well there was there was none see the thing is I think there's a there's two cults supporters here those fortunate enough to go at the game like me although I do both as well as social media and those that don't that watch or whatever and that all all you didn't have one one atom of negativity at the stadium s it's just and yet though I'm I'm hearing left right and Center um how the fans out behind an POA kogu and you know the fans want rid of him and all this lot and I think Kate mentioned it you know the atmosphere at the at the ground was absolutely superb and you just sit there and you just think are we all watching a different game we must be because all I saw was my team win a match 4 nil and yes it doesn't matter who the opposition was we won 40 how many times haven't we how many times we come up against teams we should beat and we drawing with them listen I like to keep a balance I always keep a balance I I get the critique no I get the critique about whether players are good enough whether players we bring in a transer window are good enough I get all that there's nothing wrong with that first thing I always think of when people say something is have they got a point are they correct on what they say even if it even if it was going to be an uncomfortable Truth for me I still try to look that way and that way you can be objective and and and impartial um you can always at two ways if the glass is always half empty and half full you can say it was good performance then you can say well no EV mccr it's there's two ways of looking at it so it's just down to the individual how they their take on our team you know I just let them get on with it I I don't get involved in spe Adrian Adrian there is a difference between doing doing what you've just said and you know you you all get together a day later or whatever and and start to critique you know the players and we know some but I mean it was literally when the whistle went I was seeing people's negativity instantly there was no oh great we've just won four it was oh how sh was brandan Johnson yes 100% 100% think that and others and others that do a critique might have a different agenda like in suggested on one of his shows uh he believes there's some out there there there probably is some you I wouldn't know him out there that want the club to fail if it means getting levia out the club but like you know I mean there may be if there are some like that I just think that's sad to be honest but I mean like you know Everyone's entitled their opinion hey is your take on the goals in the second half well I was actually more happy with the Romero goal because we R scored from a corner so I was like yeah we finally scored from a corner after the first half of Madison's delivery was pretty poor if I'm being honest um and I hopefully like I said with the first goal with basuma we can score more goals like this because I think our issues are a lot to do with variation the lack of variation with the type of goals we score because as we know we tend to score the same kind of goal every time and try and walk it in so seeing a long shot go in and a goal off a corner is good stuff right um as for the um song goal or obviously everyone's leaving as vaner goal um vanen is definitely our best player I mean i' hard to disagree with that to honest I think he could probably play with any team in the league he's probably our one player that could probably play for City Arsenal and all of them um and we're gonna have to it's be very difficult to keep you think do you think sorry oh has do you think has do you think we've been practicing scoring off the underside of the bar no I don't think so been practicing scaring Romo I get of like obviously it's not the same position but like Bale Vibes off him really like I think the guy is gonna be if he's not already there he's probably well class already but um wait wait wait I was gone kind of what did you just say who's Bale levels no I'm not saying he's there yet but vaner could be like Oh I'm in agreement with has I I I think he's pretty pretty close to to being that I mean in next next next year next year or two we I think if if we're not careful and we we don't bring some quality players around our our promising youngsters I think I think obviously Romero I think I think van to to go to Real Madrid isn't it funny though that he wasn't even first choice I will just point some out in there that I agree with you I think he is an absolute fantastic player and I'm not trying to put him down but Devil's Advocate slightly we we see vanen and he is absolutely superb doing them runs getting back and putting that tackle in but he to me he doesn't look as accomplished when he's defending within his own box and it's a tight space I just think he he's he's good he's learning yeah I think that's say he's not there yet I'm saying not there yet yeah no that's why I say I agree with you but I just think his strength is that there's no better Defender out there when it comes to having to run back and make that tackle I agree with you absolutely yeah I agree 100% but I think his weakness and we saw it I think it was against City last year and you've seen it once against Lester I think this year where there was the ball was in the box and he was just he he couldn't turn quick enough and whether that's just the the youthfulness of his game or whether that's a weakness to his game I don't know but s i I think his weakness his actual weakness is his aerial ability for such a can't get his head on yeah such a guy I wouldn't swap either of our two Defenders for any other defender in the league I think he's cuz he's so pretty does doesn't want to spoil these looks yes head on the weekend to be honest I don't think we should we should disguise pace for Quality if you look at Romero's all round skill on the ball his composure the way he passes the ball and everything else oh yeah he is not just better than vanent he's about five times better than but there's there's different ways there different defend there's different Defenders there's different ways to defend and Yan are a perfect example they were both wonderful Defenders but they played different way their styles were different but they were both effective you can be effective without you know what I mean you either have to have elite elite Pace or Elite positioning and if you have both great but if you have one of them you can be a damn good Defender I think romz the ball playing sent a half out the two of them anyway because it's like when yanan I think right I think very different but Toby could play The Long balls but I think yam was more dictated to play more I think we all agree that we need to nail them two down they they can't go they can't leave the club ever can't play anymore them down AJ that's that's the problem only the only way the only way to nail them down is to bring in top quality players to this put some concrete it isn't the only way to nail them down to to bring in top quality players the only way to nail them down is by starting to win things Andes necess don't no we don't here we go guys guys guys on just a second because gon off track right Romero's got three years on his contract I don't worry I don't worry into the future like other fans do what happens if sanso breaks their leg in the next four G games or something I mean what is that sort of talk right or what happens if vdv pulls a hamstring you know worry about it when it happens not right a game with Romero right now I love the player just we'll talk I'll talk about him and then I'll go back to Mark about the goals but we Romero right he's got three years left on his contract we know he's not going nowhere this season if we get round to the summer and he doesn't want to sign a new contract then you sell him don't worry about G you sell him because like you do not let him run his contract down like Kane did we were lucky to get 16 mil for Erikson in a January window before you don't let them run their contracts down and if it's hard and I you know I wouldn't like it if he went even though I know that we've got doron vasovic and Ashley Phillips coming in behind anyway that would cushion the blow but you don't want to lose a worldcast player who's won a World Cup and two copper Americas same for any other players that are WR but they'll know the contract situation at the club they're not going to fall into these traps like they have done in the past right so but any of our players I don't care it is if you get down to two years and you don't want to sign a contract there's two reasons for it you're either not happy at the club you know either because we haven't won nothing or the deal's you don't like the deal that's being offered to you in which case see you later yeah see you later you got to be ruthless you got when players down to two we got an offer we got a contract you you because you either want to play for my club you either want to play for my club or you don't and my club is everything to me as you like know right so like if you don't want to play for my club I won't hate you or nothing or nothing like that for that because I don't do hate but like then go then just go ad Adrian I I agree I agree with that right to a certain extent but we can't be a sort of feeder Club to these top European clubs or you know play teams like City or United or we we can't be a feeder Club to them not our best players yeah not this this is the myth we used to be right back in the days of even redn and Y we used to be but since right the last time we sold two players the last time we sold a player we knew Kane was going right it was at the end of his contract he was going no one minded him going we knew Erikson was going as well because he was the last player we sold as a selling Club when people turn around and say oh we're selling club right it's no no no no it's the biggest load of rubbish game the last player we sold right that we wanted we really wanted to keep I know we wanted to keep KL Walker in 2017 right yeah that's seven eight years ago right s prior to that you go back to 2012 and 2013 when we sold B and modrick yeah and was before that we're we're a wealthy enough club now I know Michael have say on this we're a wealthy enough we don't have to sell players and we've got all these kids now on six-year contracts right you want to come and get our players if they're not happy now we'll be at we'll be out to do what a Chelsea and Man City do in the future of our players un happy we'll be a to get decent money for them whereas we've got crap for some of the rubbish we about to get rid of Mark about the two goals in the second half what do you think of them um well first of all first of all there may that there is a gentleman on this panel that I may have may not have sneaked into his back room to watch the game I'm not obviously big up cult and glad I could help yeah well well yeah yeah it was good Chris who's promoting everyone's chat right big up Chris hope to see you another game next time you get tickets let me know we meet up hang on a minute I was in full flow then sorry sorry m right and um and so what there was a stage there was a stage it was in French yeah yeah yeah there was there was I was trying to I was trying to teach us all a little a little French yeah well obviously well obviously me I I hardly speak English and so I got no so I got no hope with French Tom you lady yeah well those girl when um Nikki ran I wanted him to take on like Sunny did against Chelsea I want no no the Burnley one sorry Burnley Burnley I want I wanted Mickey to take it on and have a pop because if he just scored that's that's your uh that's your whatever pushers award there do you think he was expecting it to come back though because he he kind of carried on his run a little bit and then looked over as though say why aren you passed it back like a one two well yeah well well shoot you give son the ball you know you're not getting it back come it just looked like that Mark H mark it wasn't an easy finish though was it it wasn't no no no and to be honest and to be honest he Meed he Meed he Meed a pick for it as well you know I mean but when when Mickey burst down the pitch right there was first of all I couldn't believe how open everyone were because he basically just ran and and and there was people trying to catch up with him but he he you know no one actually stuck a challenge in on him until he was virtually passing it sunny right and but I wanted him to have a pop cuz if he' have scored that that there's your there's your push award goal straight away left wing sorry you think you can play on the left wing without that pace wait he has played left back has he yeah you know but but unfortunately he's too good at being a center back to do what they did with Gareth Bell he actually mean he actually said about paying on left back when he substitute how hard it was when you're a inverted Wing back or a wing back you've got to have a set of lungs on you to Reg he has to beat someone from Pace maybe two or three times and most time he closes them down oh yeah he's got that fantastic burst of pace when he needs it over a short distance like a sprinter at the Olympics and things like that but for the long distance the covering them kilometers up and down that pitch up and down up and down he even he said he's he struggled a bit scor wonderful goals didn't he for us one yeah but but then again but but then again I mean Mickey's only what 23 22 you know he's he's still developing you know and to be honest we got a fantastic player and and going back to what was said about like I mean the only way to keep these players is to win stuff and and show ambition show get get the top players in Ellie are you thinking of changing CH you've changed from bergville to bentor you changed from hyberg to bentor now you've changed to bergville would it be cheaper for you had changeed to vdv because it's only three letters on the back of your shirt you know I mean yeah you're right but the thing is like I said earlier today to you Adrian when you called me up I I'm sticking with my boy bergvall because the Irish hoper he gave me the Hoy beer status and I ran with it for two years and then the third year I got so much stick it was unbelievable like and you from people that like me as well they were giving me so much sck but it was not personal it was aimed towards him and I was there to defend him but bergall I've got I remember him you know what I mean Mark yes a lot of belief in him and I like what he did when he came on but I I saw some only gave him five out of 10 and I was thinking what game were they watching cuz that that Sublime move that he did in the center circle that was worth a 10 out of 10 just for that that was worth my 29 quid that I paid to get in was like versus Burnley sort of but yeah it was brilliant what he did like he got the ball and the ball was part of his body and all great players they they do they nurture the ball and he within one swivel he had left the Man For Dead you know and he was just cha what I like about him he chases the ball he he he looks for the ball as well he wants he wants the ball and he wants to create which I love about him so and he's only 18 for God's sake you imagine what he's going to be like at 25 in seven years so calm so calm on a ball in ear yeah he's cool calm and collected he looks like a leonis with the blonde hair and the blue eyes which is lovely for the candy but I'm not so that's why you got him on the back of your shirt then see big thanks to Chris Peters because I think that is actually brought something to the attention that me and Mark agree on yes looking confused yeah she's got a different set of lungs so ell what was the atmosphere like where you were and we had a good meet up and we brilliant it was lovely meeting you all Adrien you're a geiza you are Jose lovely guy I filmed him going in and I as I filmed him I said that was you was it yeah I think he he appreciated it but um he goes that I'm a n which he knows everybody knows I am anyway so there's nothing new there um and going in with Phil Panay he must be the funniest man I've ever met no disrespect to you guys but this guy he's got a joke up his sleeve for joking isy I joke up he's really funny and he's so such a passionate Spurs fan it's a pleasure being with him right and I got his ticket well it was his nephew's ticket I believe right which I only PID 29 pound for so don't tell Daniel Ley because he'll be after the other 51 quid benman and his other half and Kate is listening I'm I'm the Spurs lady's um Ambassador so I'm to a discount to go in I shouldn't pay I know I shouldn't and I'm I'm I was born of stones throw away from the stadium really um but then we moved to Beaconsfield road which is in North 15 so I just think I deserve to get up everything free so Danel if you're listening I Mercy if you're an ex player and I I know you obviously played for the ladies and you know that they'll be the argument each men's team but to me if if you're an ex player for that football environment you should be allowed to go back in whenever you want yeah true I do get some priv we're not going there has we that's never gonna happen although although Ellie Ellie Ellie at the time at the time when you played was it not the Spurs ladies not affiliated with the club at the time yeah we was first I remember you saying something like that they gave us a bit of notoriety that like they paid for our kit they bought us boots but they didn't let us play at whiteart Lane yeah like the gills do now they don't get a lot of games at White Lane but the big games they do um but we're working on that on her game two because her game two is where I at as well and I'm a volunteer and I'm an affiliate member of them and what they do they do some fantastic work to protect women in sport um in terms of abuse and discrimination that sort of thing but they don't only do that they they promote within the club and um they try they try to get the girls more games at their the home stadium there is this year Ellie there's three this year yeah there's three this year it's not too bad but it'd be lovely to have a few more especially obviously the Arsenal game is always played at White Lane because it's Arsenal and we beat them last year come on you well you can only really play them when the team are away that's the 19er games and obviously part three women's games they'll want to probably put a few Academy games in as well for the lads you know what I mean so what I've heard from her game to is because they don't really want to police it because it's a lot of work for Harring gay canel to police it oh yeah we Ellie we know about that that's not we know about that but we won't go there because it's a political thing so the main thing is the girls are getting better and um you know the team is getting stronger and the manager is fantastic I think he's he's like a breath of fresh air Robert villam he's bought a new way of playing okay we didn't give a good account of ourselves in the FA Cup semi in the FA Cup sorry we lost 4-0 to Manchester United but it wasn't from the lack of effort it was from the lack of quality no I don't because we drew with them 22 and we beat them we've beaten them before it's not I I just think they froze like we did in the Champions League final the men they froze and it was only Beth England who pulled us through really she she gave a good account of herself but the of the players they played well below par plus man united were like they were on one that day because they lost previous year to Chelsea so they really wanted to win so we should have been on our guard for that but we weren't so the M the main thing is um the men and the women they do they do meet up a lot now um and I'm I'm I'm actually going to get an interview with them very soon I'm I'm arranging it very soon so I'm really excited I'm looking forward that that would be cool yeah and I'll post it everywhere don't worry right yeah oh we know you were can I just B's goal because I missed the first two goal well that's what the question was with the goals yeah go and mention the goals because um because I love basuma goal because it was from outside the box and the way it was worked it was fantastic because Brena Johnson for all these sins right he done a really good move with Kulu and then it came across the box and it came back and it went across Kulu passed it to to puma and he whacked it in first time first time I I love the first time like we hadn't had a banger since Romero's goal I think it was against we don't score many goals from outside the box in general you doing there though because even in the preseason he got four assists doing that round he was playing the middle yeah I footwork in the Box for that goal was incredible age with you brilant bring something to our team like you know said he can't beat his man of course he can I don't like men we'll talk about you mean Johnson who are who are your stand who are your stand out performances AJ my stand up perform I think even though I dis can be more than one you know what I mean even though I disagree with him being in the lineup I think basuma was quality what a way to show that you're working hard and to get the fans back on side and the manager for that matter than by absolutely Levering the ball top bins great goal great composed performance Kulu I think was excellent I really like Kulu he gets he's better in the middle much better in the middle than out wide but he's still productive out wide he still contributes but you get the best from him by playing him in the middle and anybody that says that man's rubbish I'm sorry entitled to your opinion but he is a very very good footballer Mickey absolutely incredible like kept a clean sheet as part of the defensive partnership with Cy but that run was just I'll watch replays of that run all day long incredible and OD yes yes okay the figures yes what did you think of the run from vanen oh the run from vanen you know incredible just interested I just I'll tell you all day long incredible run incredible intelligent pacy powerful we could do a whole stream just me talking about that run let's do it let's do it I W to move on to Phil and I want to go up up a level and then up to the top can I just can I just quickly one second can I finish with odbert I just wanted to say I think yes okay the the output in the way of stats weren't there but he had that fullback tied up that fullback didn't know whether to come short go long whether he was going to run in behind cut inside hug the touch line and with be ready for people to say though that he's a fullback that doesn't play and he's he's you know what I mean there there's there's all kinds of excuses to be made though that that that people will make that that fullback is [ __ ] so be be ready yeah yeah yeah but the right sided the right sided zener off came across as well and had to come across to cover he kept them guessing the whole time and have we not been screaming have we not been screaming out as a fan base for a Winger that takes his man on and drives at his man I hear it all the time verer doesn't Johnson doesn't Kulu doesn't now we've got one oh but he's this but he wasn't our first choice but it's only Everton all these butts all these butts it's nonsensical he's 19 years old don't shine 19 years old his Premier League debut for his new team in front of 60,000 people and that poor fullback he kept him absolutely on his toes the whole time kept in guessing and contributed to the team yes towards the end he he he he slacked off a little bit he got tired his passing was Wayward but he's 19 let's give this lad what we've been screaming for an attacking an attacking Winger that drives at his fullback let's give him time let's give him games let's see what he can do let's see where we're talking about him half the season in right Phil Stand Out performance for you that game um I've got I've got three standout performances um van um for me was uh Head Above the Rest by a country mile um Madison in the last couple of games I I actually think he's becoming the player he was in the first 10 games last season to be honest with you I think um I think we're seeing him get back to um slowly but surely um and basuma um basuma had a great game um he had a point to prove and that strike from him was sweet um and he needs to do more of that from outside the box for me um because I think he's got the technical ability to do that for us um but he can't you can't just do this in one game I want to see him do it on a regular basis because ever since he come to Tottenham I haven't seen him be consistent and I want him to take his chance now and and stay claim for that number six position or number eight position he stand up performance for you I I mean for me is pretty obvious the kesi um I think he has to be playing there um I'd even go push to say that I'd rather see as a number 10 than Madison right now um I know Madison started well but as John sorry Phil alluded to he had 10 games last season where he was really good and then he just you know we know how the rest of the season went so and that I think applies to basser as well um he had a decent game I do think sometimes he switches off and I did notice that still and and maybe it's the symptom of the whole team by the way it's maybe it's not just him because as Adrian said before two n it felt like we kind of played within ourselves I just feel like sometimes they take the foot off the gas or I get to ual I think Puma's one of those sort of players that does that quite a bit um so there's still room for improvement there as well um and like withum Madison it's like can you be consistent over 30 games or 30 games they say that's what I see has that's jump in the G with Madison now because he started well but we saw this last year and then he just fell off same with Puma so's hold that kesi I want to see him playing in the middle pretty much and like consistently because this guy he can cook if he plays there he can actually cook like he played there in the preseason as our best player as a four to n he played in Juventus as a number 10 and he played even with Ronaldo um so he even said I think his preferred position is in the middle so play him in there like I said um we're gonna have Cup games coming up and EUR Europa coming up so if we can find a way to play Madison and CES in the middle most times against Low Blocks as well then I think we'll do really well yeah I don't I don't think I don't think we'll see K on right wing now to be honest with unless unless we have you know under under contante was different should I tell you why because we played with wing backs and the wing backs Were Meant too far out wide and what that allowed son and Cass essentially plays inside forwards as they call it nowadays so he wasn't really playing as a wide player um and we were also playing as a counterattacking team so it was very different um in this system the fullbacks inol but and the wing suppos supposedly our Wingers are meant to play wide but I know our Wingers cut inside even as well but this is where we have a problem because our Wingers don't really play wide as much as they should um even though I don't know what an tells them because I'm not there I can't you know but yeah I thought cesco was our best player for me at least sain I mean good thing about bassum I thought was like Romero looks for him and he's coming from for the ball and then with Madison and Kula in front of him you know that at least koua will hold on to the ball better than than Madison will in a tighter situation so um I thought it was good to see Puma coming and W in the ball I I kind of look at it and saying I agree with a lot of what haard just said and I disagree with some parts to it I don't want to see Hulu playing Central Central because we tried this last year and in the five or six matches he had he only had one decent game what I would like to see is Madison and Kulu playing together where kulu's kind of sticking to the right side Madison sticking to the left and then you put that number six behind them um because I do think when you've kind of got two people almost playing that playmaker role it suits them both but I don't want to see Kulu on his own trying to be that number 10 because I don't think he's he's not ready for it yet I mean he he might he might become that player um but I my you know I think Madison had a great game but the problem with Madison at the moment is he's running out of steam and when he runs out of steam he looks terrible and you know you start seeing those those mistakes and things like that but I thought he was brilliant but I also think where as just said the fact that Kulu was alongside him make probably helps him you know this is maybe where we had that last year where basuma and Madison were both on form and they were both playing for Man of the match and I think we'll see that with C with Kulu and Madison if we if we stick to them two sort of in the middle and one behind them uh basuma was great I thought he had a you know for for what just happened and the way he's he played in that game and the way he sort of stepped up I think he was he he deserved some praise V I mean look I think AJ summed it up with vaner Van uh I'm not going to go into that run because I think he drooled over him enough um Romero was absolutely fantastic and we we we did what we had to do um but the only worry I've got is we saw this last season the first 10 games we had our Defenders scoring we had our midfielder scoring we had our Winger scoring and then all of a sudden it dried up as long as it doesn't dry up again this year then let's hope it long continues I was gonna say no reason to be afraid of it it happens yeah performers in this your performance your best performers out there in that game so I was gone for a second sorry about that but uh I think I don't if any was basuma but I thought I thought basuma played really really well uh for a long time people were calling for a kind of more defensive midfielder and I didn't think we needed one but he he did a good job in that roll whether he was told to do that or not um he he kind of did you know I feel like he did a pretty good job of shielding um the back four of stopping some plays before they even were able to get started so I I think that basuma is kind of maybe the the unsung hero um obviously you know uh fand event was great um yeah the the whole team the whole team played pretty well um but stand out my player will be basuma especially with the things that like had been going on and you know uh stuff in the media and and the manager talking about him specifically because well I mean he was asked but you know um all that's hard that's all hard to deal with I think as a player a little bit and I think that he did it all very maturely uh you know and uh wants everybody to forgive him which is good he cares he he clearly cares uh you know he came over and celebrated in front of the fans I don't know I I just I'm proud of his character and his come back and I hope long long may it continue Mark outstanding performance for you uh well obviously what the rest of them have said coutti vaner basuma did well um Kulu did well even the the new guy older ber did well but it's too early for him um the whole team basically the whole team did well apart from brenon which I'm sure we'll get into Ellie you there yeah your take on standing players well it goes without say van Deen he was absolutely brilliant Romero was fantastic LED led by example brought the ball out was very precise with his passing he done one Sublime pass which was brilliant and I I'd give the other one to odbert because it must be hard right coming into a team right and every time he got the ball you thought something was going to happen right and everybody got up on their off their seats you know and I like to see that right and he's an exciting player to watch and he's so tricky and he's got very quick feet and we've been crying out for that sort of thing so to come in for his first game yes it wasn't perfect but it was fantastic the way he took on his player and his quick feet and he he made me excited anyway and the rest of the crowd they warned to him you know so I think he's going to be a very big fan favorite and um I I hope we see more of him because he deserves after putting that performance in to stay in the S he confid Ellie he's confident I mean he's the opposite Johnson is now do you think he's like a young Raheem Sterling you know a bit more you know as in he he he shows a lot of promise but the end product isn't there yet and I think had that pace he he he went for his man all the time but he just didn't necessarily put the end product in all the time he can polish he can polish his game he's only 19 yeah that's what yeah yeah yeah know say score as many goals as Raheem Sterling did for Man City in that peak season that' be lovely but we we need we know need all our players to score and he has the ability I think to score so I want to see more of him because the more game time you get on and everybody knows you improve your game all right so and the other players as making combinations with them yeah the one player the one player he can learn off is sunny on that on that left side you know what I mean learn a lot my take on the team and Wilson odberg it was an okay a good performance I think he got overhyped but he is Young he's playing in front of a 60,000 crowd for the first time and all that it was okay to good it wasn't a sensational performance he showed things what fans want that excite fans so that got them that gets carried away a bit more than usual you know the other thing I've noticed is we have we aren't quite on point a match sharpness you can do all the preseason you want giving players half a game each and you can still you nothing substitutes for match games and match sharpness true you Dogg is not on point yet in my opinion he's not saw wasn't at Leicester right but these are still young players and you're going to get this with form form is going to dip with these players it happens throughout the season they're young and then you get even even Romero give OD odd sloppy pass we had a very good game but that ball he put through straight into the middle it just got cut out straight away I mean like that's a no no and a coaching manual right and I just still think that it's not been a bad start the point or leester still a very good point disappointed we didn't win obviously but it it it didn't warrant you know the Meltdown from certain areas of the fan base over that right but I I just I just think okay now now we got these two let's build momentum there and get something from Newcastle if not all three because I think we can beat them after what I've seen seen them and then we got the dreaded International break what I want to do now you in the chat can help this is where we need we want to encourage people to subscribe is we want to do the players ratings one by one and get your marks out of 10 for the players and I'll put them down here before we move on right um oh by the way just to add come Friday the show will run from 8 to 11: because the transfer window shuts at 11 o' and we'll also be discussing the Europa League draw which I think I'm not sure there conflicting reports whether it's at noon be just before noon or early afternoon but it won't affect us because we're not on till late right so you what days is it sorry so I'm Friday Friday on Friday noon okay okay I think it's thir I need to go and double check this it is it'll be anyway it'll be done and dusted before we're on there at 8 okay so we'll be going to 11 because that's when the window was shut yeah I think I'm think I might be going to the training grand um on Deadline day because it's quite exciting I've been a couple of times before you know bit early to protest is it early for the protesters I could but I might lose for discounts right so we'll start off with the panel and I've got to get a pen out of this and write this down I'll go around all of you you in the chat can join in we want you to join in because this is what we want to do in the future get the chat to engage as much as possible so can I have your marks for Vicario please so we'll start with AJ solid seven seven I love that Phill yeah seven for me AJ and what we're going to do these by the way is at the end of the year we're going to compare our marks with Tolen B and elel [ __ ] roll's player ratings right because that just for fun this is for fun anyway hasz Vicario seven okay Colin the Cario I feel like I'm just saying the same thing as everybody but seven he didn't have much to do if he had more to do maybe it would have been higher but seven seems fair he did that one good save in the first half when it got through S I'm going to be controversial and I'm going to give him an eight because go he kept a CLE she he kept a clean she his concentration was there and it didn't really do much wrong I know he didn't do much all but you know I I think you know to me I'm going to give him an eight just to be awkward just got to be different haven't you that's midle yman yeah yeah M Mark well I'm going to go along with everybody else and give him a seven on the pretense that he didn't have hardly anything to do but the loudest cheer of the whole game is when he caught that ball when they had about Seven Corners in a row and he come out and claimed it you know I I mean we all had our like hearts and our mou at that stage when they had like five or six corners in a row yeah but when he actually came out and grabbed it the whole crowd went mad it was like we' scored a goal it's true we never rarely see him actually go and catch it like he might no no no no no no listen that we got have we got a new goalkeeper coach I believe is that correct no we still got Mark we still got Birch okay so he's he's obviously listening to him now cuz he's actually cool but I I'll give him a solid seven not from montgomer insurge Romo that were brought Mariners in Australia and they managed the Scottish under 21s and managed hi Buran in Scotland yeah Nick Montgomery is now apparently taking charge of all the zonal marking and the man Mark's doing zonal marking Adrian well not zonal but he's taking charge of defensive responsibilities with the team right it definitely looked more manto man in the match didn't it I thought it did anyway yeah I would have given him an eight but he was a bit shaky sometimes when he was receiving the ball and passing it out he's still a little bit nervous because he's made a few errors in pre-season so I want him to be confident because he's such a fantastic Communicator his distribution is having that great anyway to be honest with you I mean yeah he needs to improve it a little bit yeah yeah yeah he does so what what G I'll give him a seven a seven uh he didn't have much to do did he really not really didn't even have to pick up the ball out the back of the net which was great that makes hell of a change yeah yeah I'll give him a seven if I've got a criticism of Vicario I think when he played that first game a bit nervously against brenford when he came in I thought his distribu of the ball was quicker and I think it tends to slow down it's not as bad as Larice where would go for a Sunday stroll in his penalty era before got rid of the ball his distribution but he just seems to be a bit slow he seems to diver a bit more with the ball and you got to move it quickly if you don't the opposition to get set and you want to break on them and get you know overloads on them so seven okay we'll move on with Vicario forgive because at my age days tend to disappear was it was it the Everton game where he gave Berg valal a God for La was that the leester gameer it waser yeah well I just hope that on that point with Vicario that you should have at least your goalkeeper should always be Ming off in my opinion yeah so you so you must really you must really like uh you must really like the Everton guy pford you must really like pford well smich was good at it with Manu one of the best ever yeah I mean like and you need you need one of your you need one of your center backs to be vocal to Marshall the back for 100% And we need to get and I don't care if he speak Spanish you can soon learn a swear word in Spanish I'm pretty sure that want Spanish I'm pretty sure it was right then we'll go for you again AJ you doggy um he was part of the defense that kept a clean sheet so I'd say seven I would give him a six I think he did lose the ball a fair bit I don't think he was as match sharp as as he could be I think he still got another game two games to go before he's up up to full speed so yeah I'll say seven Phil I'm going for a six on this one um I think a doggy at the moment isn't match bit I think he's Bey um the rest of the players especially in Pre um so I think he's just he he needs a couple more games really um I wouldn't take him out the start La I'm not saying that but you know he just needs a few more games to to get up to speed with you know how he was performing before can I can I I know we're doing the thing can I ask you a question real quick go how many how many more games do we give him to get back into form I mean so say he's not back in form for another like game or three I say do we move Vander in the middle no no no I was gonna say to to be honest we got no choice but to play him because he's the only one we got I say we either we either have to move we' either have to move vdv over there or we I don't think it is as bad as as that I don't think do I mean he he hasn't had a proper pre-season because he was injured that's what I'm saying I have no doubt he's GNA get back into form but I think it's going to be a game or two games to get him back to his get him back to his best I don't think it's a problem I have no doubt he's going to get back to his best but yeah I just think it's take him a little bit longer than the rest of the players that I've had a pre-season that makes sense yeah I feel you you doggy I agree with Phil here six um who same same reasons really I thing with the doy I've noticed even from last season he tends to switch off sometimes and he's something needs to work on because he did a few mistakes last season I guys remember with the United or was it United someone else we passed the ball straight and they scored but like he's he he kill that of his game honestly and I just think again like Phil said he's because he hasn't played preseason he's going to take a while for him to get back up to speed Colin you yeah uh six is fair uh he he is getting up to speed he he was wonderful at times last season um I think you can get back I can get back to that he he's also fairly young um you know sometimes defensive players don't like fully mature and get to their best until they're a little bit older um and and he's by far the best we've got we don't have another option really our other options are yeah like I was saying not good so yeah six let's play him and let's get him back into form uh six for me sain well I was GNA say six but sers has said six I can't agree with him so I'm gonna say 6.15 um no I I think yeah I I think I I probably G to go with a six as well because he wasn't terrible but he didn't really do a lot neither um I think he like Phil said I think he eat it on the nail on the head um he's just not match fit he's just not he's just not at the races so yeah no six and a half because I think six is quite low and I think Seven's too high so six and a half sorry Mark you doggy yeah yeah a six six this everyone said that he's not match fit he's not really at the races he had no pre-season he can do better but to be honest he's the only one we got at the moment you know so I'm sorry Mark go on car no that's right no that's right I'm done doggy you doggy um you can't really give him a high mark because we know what he's capable of and it's not what he's producing in the last couple of matches and it's obviously because like the rest of them say it's match Fitness so you needs to get that up I think I think six is a fair score because you can't give him a five because he did do some good things and he links up quite well um and he did bomb forward but he's not the same player that we know because we've seen what he can do and he's very exciting player when he gets going he just goes past players like they're not there so I think six is a really good score for him because that's what he that's what he deserves he don't deserve any less or anymore right and I'm giving him a six as well now bat and down hatches vdv Phil um go the nine um so I don't think there is a perfect performance to be honest with you so go with the nine um yeah there's not much really he did wrong um he can on his aerial ability um on set pieces that's why I probably not one point off um but everything else he did with Assurance he he's just he's a brilliant player I think we're very very lucky to have him and I hope he's here for the next five 10 years yeah AJ vdv wa wa saon I can hear you laughing already just the Run I'd give him a 10 I'd give him a 10 just for the Run alone just for the Run alone but realistically I'll say nine I think he was he was good defensively and that run I mean he's got a guy in the Hall of Fame for that surely well what about Sonny's run against Burnley then yeah against Burnley and against Chelsea absolutely ripped them apart yeah when he done Lou absolutely those goals are just special only son only son could have scored those there is no other player on our team in the last 10 years that could have scored that type of goal and he did it twice ran through Burnley ran round Chelsea incredible the um I'm probably going against a green here I'll give him an eight how dare you I don't think it's not because he would play bad I just don't think he had that much to do in terms of recoveries compared to previous games so you didn't really see him do that much but I couldn't give him less than like an eight because of the goal well not the goal we scored with the goal we set up so yeah Colin has hit it on the head I'm G to give him eight also I know it seems harsh maybe but uh yeah I mean just didn't quite have enough to do for for it to be much higher than that uh but but he did well he did great I mean eight eight 80 that's a b that's a b here in America you know what I mean like that's that's a good score uh and um yeah the Run maybe knocks it up to a nine but I I don't know I don't want it overhype anybody eight we'll just go with eight Soren let's be realistic here the Run was basically what it was he kicked the ball on his own box and he was because he runs that fast he was just stumbling all the way to the other end and it wasn't really a you know a tactical run so I mean we can only give him a six surely um you know let's let's let's be a bit more down to earth now um I I don't I I I I find it hard not to give him a nine and I find it hard not to score it eight because I don't think any of the Defenders had a massive amount to do so I'm going to go eight and a half what's wrong with eight and a half that Mark vdv yeah um well in all fairness is a Defender and he didn't have nothing to do really really but for the Run eight eight because because it the Run deserves a hell of a lot but let's face it he's a Defender and he shouldn't have to do that you know in my opinion in my opinion but um you know he never had nothing to do because everon never offered nothing if he'd have put like if we playing I don't know Real Madrid or something and he'd like save three goals by his tackles and his pace and all that it would have been 10 you know yeah no it's fair enough Ellie vdv um it's difficult because he was like everybody says he didn't have much to do defensively but that's not his fault but the Run was Sublime that's why I've got to give him a nine and I'm yeah I have to give him a n because you barely see somebody run and keep control of the ball for that distance I just I just feel he deserves a nine just for the run and the way he slipped it to Sonny he had the presence of mine to slip it to Sonny with a very beautifully weighted pass and all Sonny well Sonny had still a lot to do it was a tight angle but I've just got he got me off my seat just watching him and I filmed it as well yeah would argue against the runners there wasn't actually a challenge to him was that it was everybody dead I I think stood off him and I'm not knocking the run you know I'm not having AJ coming down after me because AJ will get you he'll get yeah but you know ran he didn't have a challenge on him as well he had players running by the side of him yeah van didn't know but several players several players against Burnley tried to tried to chop chop Sunny D actually if a player had scored a goal like that against us our fan base would going why didn't no one chop him down they couldn't catch him to chop him down you know it was a superb run but there was challenge put in it was like the part of the Red Sea it was like the part of the Red Sea when he ran out there there's nobody there he used his you really see it you really see that sort of run by any player but you could see the Gap that that there was just a gaping H down the middle of the field exactly I agree but you still have to utilize yeah no I mean I'm not I'm not knocking the run you know fantas so yeah you know you you went halfway didn't you I mean I'd have been knacked by time I got to me own EDG of me own box and he started there so you know I mean I'm not going to say anything against it but you know I'm just saying for the runers as good as it was it was allowed to happen you know what it reminded me of do you remember when we played man united and F tongam went on that run away from home and he scored a goal that game reminded me of that scored at the end then it would have been want to have a pop to be honest I'm I'm I'm giving VV an eight the other interceptions he made were good but I'm I I look it in the context of 90 minutes as well so he gets an eight for me right we'll move on to AJ Romero Romero nine got be a nine if if I'm marking Mickey a nine I mean he gets a clean sheet and he scored a goal as solid goal from a corner Rose above everyone absolutely powered at home got to be a nine fantastic Nick muscles absolutely Phil Romero you there I'll come back to him he's probably got [Music] the yeah hey Romero um I'm giving him an eight um I thought it was good that you know he got his goal so I couldn't really could give him a seven for that but um like you Adrian I kind have a pet peeve with Romero and it doesn't seem to be going away um he know you say he holds on to the ball too long there was an instance in the first half if you guys remember this I think it was maybe one or two up just playing it around the back and Romero was just like casually just like strolling around and you know how we all get impatient with them to get rid of out the box because I end up having to get up and start swearing at them to get rid of the ball I like what the hell we play ourselves into trouble so much it's just and Romero was the guy I was doing it like Hees take my head off and they finally got rid of it but know why he does that has because his balls are that big he's got to pick out which is the ball to kick didn't take long did it mind you only took hour and half like to get right yeah I was uh yeah I'd have to agree I think nine is a fair it's a fair score for him um played really well you know Marshall Marshall the defense played you know played us out from the back lot yeah there might be a little bit more to be desired from that but you know he can improve there he probably will improve there and then the goal was was really nice nicely taken it's nice to have one of our players get their head on a ball first because you know that that doesn't happen all that often so uh yeah I'm going I'm going with nine for the man agreeing with my boy AJ okay sain yeah I mean I think I'm going to Echo I mean I was going to say eight and a half but the fact he got the goal I think you've got to give him that little bit extra um yeah he didn't make that run but I don't think he needs to make the run because he's he's passing I mean I know where has is coming from when he says he you know he hangs on to it but his passing range and his vision and his willingness to go forward yeah I I think he deserves a nine definitely okay I think ha is had to go uh okay Mark oh that's um um yeah um yeah just for scoring a nine a nine yeah just Just For The Goal yeah Ellie Romo yeah um he's one of those players who splits the fan base he's the only one really with so a lot of aggression in our team which I love I think it's brilliant it reminds me of gram Roberts know goes crunching in doesn't take any prisoners and he he didn't really have to do that in this game because everyone rep pants but what I did see is that he was very cultured very thoughtful when he passable he's got very good Vision like sain pointed out and um yeah the goal was fabulous the way he rose above and toosi is no slouch Defender he's mean and he he'll get stuck in and he'll put his hip in or he put his arm in like to dig you right so he's a tough Defender for him to beat him I can't remember the other Defender but he beat another man as well to it and he powered it in so I think he does deserve a nine because his distribution was fantastic as well although those passes to Madison were there was one brilliant pass which I thought brilliant because sometimes you have to take your time in football I don't believe he's he's not a typical an poao defender or player to that effect because he doesn't move the ball quickly he likes to nurture he likes to feel the ball he's Argentinian is he he likes to feel his ball I won't get too rude but what I like about him he's very thoughtful when he passes the ball he doesn't just pass it willy-nilly and nine times out of 10 it'll be a really good ball so willly nilly willly nilly can can willly nilly play on the right wing he could Johson I want Jose on he does take his time sometimes and I do get a little bit frustrated sometimes but when he pulls out a pass I well was worth worth waiting for so yeah I think a nine is deserved Phil Romero score Romero UMO I it's my favorite player so I'm I'm gonna give him a good story here to be fair um I'm gonna go I'm gonna give him a nine I'm going to give him a nine um simply because of his uh is is Distributing with the ball um especially to them to to Madison for them chances he should he should have put them away by the way um should have yeah yeah I think I think Romero us his class especially when he's on the ball um and he it's his aggression I I think he's channeled that as well now um from from last year I think you know he he knows when to sort of going for challenges now he's not so rashed um I think he's improved his game uh no end with that so yeah I think I think I think a nine for Romera I know it's only been two games I know it's only been two games but he hasn't received a card yet is he no that's astonish I I'll come to that I'm giving him an eight mainly because I've got others that I want to give 92 coming through this game but uh I just want to balance out our score uh yeah with Romero I think when when an came in after Conte when you're playing that high line at the back he mainly has to get involved in a foot race with players as well so if it's him or V are involved in a foot race when you're playing a low block you're making a lot more tackles because you're defending for most of the game under con so more tackles you make in my theory is the more chance you got to get in a yellow card and a lot of the time he was left as the last Stitch Defender and he'd went out and take someone out so I just think this system suits him I think it suits him for not getting cards I mean who's GNA I mean it suits vaner as well if they pick up yellow cards it's going to be last itch tackles around the edge of the penalty area yeah I mean like because if he goes forward and scores a goal it's not because he's going to go forward to lump someone you know so I just got I just think the system suits him but we shall see over a season won't we and like look you know there's enough for 22 players players to get 24 games each we've got a minimum 48 games this season so plenty of times right we move on AJ porro seven okay that was short and sweet Colin [ __ ] I I feel like I'm being a heel or not a heel but you know just a seven I I that's the only score I could give him he did a good job but there wasn't anything too special um yeah sorry to copy you AJ but seven for me as well sain oh seven see it's hard yeah Phil I'll go with a six same as a doy I think yeah I just think that um I don't know I just think he had a similar sort of game to a doy I think um it wasn't I just think it was an average performance from him I don't think it agree the same yeah I don't think it was to do with his performance as such I think it was just the way the game panned out um you know it almost felt like we had a game of blankety blank going until you spoke Phil you had to be different yeah did he yeah I just I just think he had a pretty average game nothing nothing to do with his sort of fault really but it was just the way the game sort of peted out um if it sort of went if it was if it was sort of like an end to end game I think his performance would have Arisen um he did cutting shot with his left foot that just went wide because of like him scoring again because he scored a couple like that in the corner yeah yeah oh yeah don't get me wrong I have no doubt in p uh paro's ability or or dois I know I've given a six and I'm being a little bit arsh on him but I don't think he to do with sort of them per se I think it was to do with how the game pned out Mark yeah well it's like a it's the defense had so little to do it's hard to it's hard to like give them like points to be honest um yeah seven seven you know it was like a yeah he did did his job you know is it was the defense he what just for that that elb was sweet I thought for sure that Fell's nose was broken for sure he got him good it was accidental come on yeah no no for sure but man he I was like oh God I was surprised there wasn't blood everywhere it looked like accidental I thought I was watching a UFC oh come on he was just trying to get over the top of him you know that's a natural it was good first first and foremost I want to give H Collins Cat 10 because the comments coming in are funny anyway porro porro yeah he just had a steady Edie game he didn't do anything spectacular didn't have much to do because we they didn't they didn't cause us anything apart from the the five corners they got towards the end of the first half other than that they were quite absent start I'll give him a six because you can't really give him a seven because he didn't do anything to Warrant a seven right yeah he had the shot but he should have scored it really he normally bangs him in doesn't he so for that fact I'm only giving him a six sorry porro but I do love him I think he's a fabulous player yeah I'm I'm the same I'm given him a six as well now um AJ basuma I'm going to give pumer an eight I think he he he put in a good performance and he took a very very good goal very good goal um we don't score many from outside the area and it was hit with laser Precision so yeah I'll give him I'll give him an eight he's made a very good start by trying to earn the trust and The credibility back from the fans and the manager Phil theumer yeah I think I think Eight's pretty fair um I think he had I think he had to have this performance I think he had to put in a performance like he did um and the goal just sort of topped it off really um but like like AJ said I mean he's he's sort of he's got kick on from this now he's I don't think he's actually built the bridge yet but he's he's building it um he's building the trust back with the team the manager and uh and the club um putting these sort of performances in on a consistent basis so um let's let's hope he does that soron theuma um I'm gonna I find it h I'm going to give him an eight because he scared the goal he was better than he has been for a long time he showed a bit more passion he showed more glimpses of what he can do and I think for the fact that he scored that goal then I I can't give him too much less so uh can has the draw been done for round three we got donc CER am I reading that right no well I thought you put that ever oh no no no no Everton must have beat Everton must have beat donc cter 3-0 I think because Rico's ever fan I know QPR are playing because my husband's at the match I just saw say we through to round three Doncaster but I think the Champions League clubs and the Europa League clubs have got a buyer through the first round of the League Cup yeah what the second round the second round yes sorry I'm gonna give right Colin I'll give basuma an eight and and I I'll you know I'll be the first to say I think Puma got a little bit of a I think he I think he got it too hard from people and I know that I'm gonna maybe get some sick for that but like young man lot of money did something that he's not so young though is he anymore no you're right but I do stupider [ __ ] 28 isn't it I've probably done I probably did stupider [ __ ] than that two weeks ago and I know that I'm not a professional footballer and I know that you know but like you know it's it's a it's a thing that didn't used to be illegal it's legal in a bunch of other countries all surrounding at you know all these other European countries and anyway stupid thing but you know we all forgave Larice for driving with sick all over himself you know could have killed a bunch of people so you know we got to move past it I think um he he did a good job at helping us move past it by by playing well had he put in a poor performance we would have all been all over him of course um yeah I'll give I'll give him an eight long may it continue if he keeps to play playing like this then uh you know we're in good shape we got the player that we wanted from Brighton you know Markum right now I'm just going to do a live on my phone live caribo Cup results and if it bur nil Stoke five Barnsley W Sheffield United Neil Barrow and Derby is gone to penalty Blackburn one Blackpool 2 Brighton four Crawley nil Cry 1 Oxford nil Everton beat donc cter 3- n Fleetwood 2 ran one Grims B one Sheffield Wednesday five harate nil Preston five Lester and Trill 40 Lester milw lost one nil at home to late Orient now ell game QPR and Luton is one or and it's gone to penalties which I never started this nower as well in the 90th minute oh did he Shrewsbury NE Bolton two w saw three Huddersfield two oh Watford two Plymouth nil that's going to upset my son-in-law that's going to upset my son-in-law Birmingham nil Fulham 2 and Palace 3 Norwich nil oh no that's still going 80th minute Palace 3 Norwich nil so that's that anyway basuma right whether we he wanted any of us wanted him in the team or not that's a material he played I mean it was nice to see when he scored his goal he went to the fans and offered an apology and then he went to the manager and like offered well he hugged him I think and sort of that's sort of an apology for him you know I mean he still got a long way to go I mean hopefully hopefully with what's happened you know this is a fire under his backside or kick at the backside you know and you know because you don't want to see him on the catwalks modeling stuff or you know what what he's been up to we want a footballer you know and if he doesn't do it tell him you know but I'll give him an eight Ellie Puma basuma um I I'll go with an eight as well because I don't think it was a perfect performance because he had two early passes that went astray yeah um and but he was he commanded the Midfield that's what I liked that's what we know basuma can do yeah he command the Midfield and he wanted the ball and he's Lively got forward a lot scored a cracking goal fantastic goal brilliant and he doesn't score many goals does he but yeah an eight I think an eight is a fair score that's his first goal for us I'm giving him an eight as well AJ kiski oh Hulu got to be a solid eight solid eight I think he I think he dides he did what Dey does do you know what I mean he's he strong he's got great feet I mean you're not getting a ball off of him are you let's be honest I mean even if you go in with a baseball bat I don't think you getting the ball off him great work to set basuma up and just was a was a danger I think the whole match he was an outlet he was yeah for me Kulu gets a solid eight Q just r on penalties by the way because my husband was doing a live commentary on the penalties with me because he's a p unfortunately for him Phil Tulu Kulu I'll give him a s oh Phil I don't I don't think um I don't I I don't think you played as well as you you lot think really are well in my eyes anyway I think I think he he had a solid game you know he he kept the ball well I expect him to do that every time anyway and that's that's one of his great attributes is is holding the ball up for us I think he's he brings a lot of good play uh to this team but I don't I didn't see him he set up aum's goal yeah granted um I just I don't know man I I I didn't think he he deserved an eight I don't think he put a stamp on the game as much as like basuma did or um you know as well as the Defenders played as well um so I'll give him a solid seven a solid seven I like that solid I like solid seveny not to watch the miserable boogers um sorry I was I was hitting a cracker giving him an eight yes no I I can see where Phil's coming from um but again I you know I just think with Kulu he just don't stop and sometimes you see you think he hasn't had a great game but when you actually see how much work he's gone through it might not be all creative or it might not be all you know glitzy and sparkly but he does a lot of work so I think for that reason I'm I'm GNA go on an eight his defensive work his defensive work is incredible he he is one of the most defensive minded attackers we have that's what I mean you get through a lot of work yeah I'll add to that sa with like with Kulu like just the the way he plays he's not he's not massively exciting as a player yeah but like what he does do is effective right um and I think I think that's why a lot of fan like Spurs fans like pass his performances by like because it goes unnoticed what do in games what you've got to think about wulu is you know I mean a lot of people say he can't play on the wing but what he does do when he's on the wing he helps his right back as well and very defens it makes it a solid side and the same where he's playing that sort of middle you know in in the middle but along onside Madison the work he goes through allows Madison to do his bit and it also helps porro so for that reason that's why I think he deserves that aids yeah I I think he's underrated as a player I think yeah underrated I think it's undervalued maybe yeah yeah yeah so I love I love Kulu uh ever since we got him I something about the way that he runs um and moves with the ball reminds me of Kane I know that's dumb and then people will be like you're stupid you don't know Ball but he he really does he he is really good at holding on to the ball he's really good at using his body he's he's smart he's a smart player he knows his limitations but uses his intelligence to kind of propel himself past those limitations speaking on the game the other day though I didn't I was doing a watch along you know you gota like bring up comments it's harder to see everything happening so I didn't see a ton of him I didn't notice him doing a lot but I also didn't notice him doing anything bad so that's a good thing um I I gotta say seven for me and it could be that he was better than that but just based on what I remember seeing seven Mark I will agree 100% with Colin because like I was trying to focus on me phone where I had Colin show on and watch the football I mean you I hate like I've been on shows where they do watch alongs and I hate it because you're trying to concentrate what's going on here and you're trying to look at your or your Telly or whatever to watch football and and and you're like watching it and someone will say oh Mark you what what and you miss half the game you know so I mean I preer I prefer Kulu in the middle definitely definitely definitely so a solid seven a solid seven because I I agree with what everybody else says about he does run around a lot and he puts a shift in yeah right I I I think seven as well I would give him an eight but I don't think he did quite enough to get an eight but he does he's one of those players that he's like they say his work goes unnoticed because he's such a hardworking player and he brings so much to our team which a lot of people don't appreciate because they think that he he's labored and they don't they think that he can't pass the no pass his player but he does he often beats his player he's an absolute Workhorse yeah they catch up with him sometimes and then he'll check back on his left but he's an intelligent lad I like the way he plays I think he's fabulous the way he nurtures the ball he's very intelligent he knows he knows what to do in tight situations as well um and if we had better Strikers to finish off he' that a lot more assists because we had Kane when he got all those assists remember and Kane's a deadly finisher so now he hasn't got them he his assists have gone down but like you said Adrian he scored eight last year so and he did he did for his standard he had a poor season but I'm looking forward to what he can offer us this season and I think seven is more of a fairer score if he'd done a few more things I would have given him an eight but I think Seven's Fair I'm giving him an eight I thought he had a very good game and and and he got us going with the first goal and the vision for the first pass was vital to get us going in that game G on much longer without scor and the crowd might have got a little bit Restless uh yeah I'm giving him an eight okay AJ Madison Madison gets an eight as well from me I think I think he played well the thing is with Madison is most of most of anything that's positive and attacking comes through him um he's not as hardworking as Kulu but I think he's got the Creative Edge over Kulu he the issue I have with Madison is it's easy to get in his head and he's so slight look at look at him stood next to Kulu it looks like Father and Son you know he's he's he's a very slight build and I think he gets bullied and roughed off the ball too too easily but I do think he had a solid performance I would I would say eight okay Colin I keep eating sorry about that so um well if you've got a go give me me Madison odar son Johnson and an right yeah sure thing so so Madison uh eight he's he's looking more like he did at the beginning of you know his first you know couple games here and I'm glad and I'm hoping he can keep that up so let's go eight for uh eight for James Madison uh and then you said Brennan Johnson uh six and I know that's charitable he he he actually for all his for all the bad things he does he he did have some moments where he you know he was linking up pretty well with with other players right he doesn't look completely clueless give me oart and Son onart let's go uh seven uh High seven for him and then Sunny uh I'll give sunny at nine that's not his natural position he said he has a hard time playing there he did great one more an one for an an was Brave let's give an a nine as well I think I think an did uh you know he changed some things around so s you saying you got to go and Collin's got a show after us in an hour right so all I want you all to H over over at Collin show in an hour bud you gotta go I can you my scars um so Madison I'm going to go with an eight I thought he was pretty good until he ran out of steam um who else was there sorry H Brenan Johnson yeah I'm going to give him a six as well he managed to get his boots on the right feet it's about as and he did have a a part to play in the first goal um odar and son odar I think I'm gonna give him a solid seven because he showed some good glimpses it was just the end product wasn't quite there but he gave you a lot of Hope for the future and he did what he was supposed to do sun don't think I can go as can I give him a nine eight and a half he he scored two um I I don't think he deserves a nine because I I think he was lucky with the vaner goal an I don't no um we don't take don't know I'm going to say an eight because I don't think we played the best team in the league so I I don't you know I think it it was I'm not going to say a guaranteed win but I couldn't see anything else but a win so I don't think he can necessarily take all the credit for us winning 4-0 um because I think it it was it was on the card so I I'll say Nate and with that I'm going to say good night come on you Spar and great to see you all and okay we get won't see you for a couple of weeks now so I'll see you soon you available Sundays though sorry Adrian are you available Sundays because Ian's gonna be away in Canada um I'll message you we'll find out then I yeah I should be about this Sunday for sure all right all right nice to bye bye you got go Phil you're all right no no I'm okay mate you're a AJ I'm an insomniac mate I'm nearly always a car is normal then AJ give me m go through the panel Madison I already did Madison didn't I said eight all right sorry all right we'll start again oh I haven't done Mark Madison sorry oh um yeah he's it's like everyone said like at the moment he's like he was the first 10 games now there was someone on someone's Channel he's a Lester fan I can't remember his name and he said CL that's the one yeah and it was when we bought Madison he said you watch you'll have a few you know say 15 good games then he'll fall off a cliff and get injured and then he'll be out for a while and what he said was exactly correct so at the moment he's doing his bit but he's you know I just want him to be put that season in well we got like 50 games or something this season so he's not going to play every game but like I'll give him a seven a seven but I want to just see the consistency out of him over a season where he only plays half the games but you know Ellie yeah he was very busy he's got fantastic Vision made a beautiful run when Romero found him unfortunately he hit it straight at the keeper so I don't know really because he didn't he didn't do enough to impress me for an eight so I think I'll give him a seven and a half I'll go do a sain and I'll give him a seven and a half okay and me yeah I'm going to get him an eight much better from him right we come down to OD Bart now AJ OD Bart ODOT I think get a solid seven a great debut for him um he was very Lively very confident gave the gave the fullback a headache fullback didn't know what I think the fullback was a decent fullback he was young and quite pacy but he didn't know what to do like odar odar gave him a headache the whole time he was on so I think a seven I think a seven Phil OD bar yeah I'll go I'll go seven um you know it was his debut so you know let's give him a bit of credit you know a lot of a lot of the Limelight would have been on him um you know being his his debut um and I think I think he made an impression um with his with his dribbling skills and and his confidence and tring to take on a player do you know what I mean missing that for a while so yeah a solid a solid seven I think he did all right Mark yeah the same the same a seven from me he um he impressed me with his willingness to take his man on that we haven't seen for ages you know and his first touch on the ball was outstanding especially one that got pinged over to him would have been in the first St and he just plucked out the sky you know but it was his debut you know it's not it if you look at his stats they're not so good but the ey test it was promising let's just say that promise the promise is there Ellie he he excited me I thought I thought he's a Cy of player I like you know he takes on his man got quick feet you know still learning the game as you know he's still a bit raw but I think seven is a nice smk for him because he didn't quite get an eight but because he was so exciting to watch that's what I am looking for and it was nice to see him not he wasn't frightened to take on his man soon as he got that ball his first f was to bomb down that Wing or just cut inside or go to the by line and beat his man that way with his quick feet it just needed a little bit more cultured thinking when it came to the pass at the end but that will come that will come because they'll work with him because he's got talent that's for sure yeah I'm going with a seven as well now we go to Johnson AJ oh um four okay I think I would have gone five but for me five is a bang average game neither good nor bad um I I just I don't think he did anywhere near enough of anything he just in contrast to odbert you look at the two of them I mean it for me I don't want to I'm not into the I'm not big into putting our players down and ripping into them so I'll just leave it I'll just leave it at that I don't think he did anywhere near enough of anything for Phil Johnson I think I think a four as well to be honest um a five is sort of you know um just average average below average so I think Johnson did one good thing on the goal um with Kulu um but other than that I'm struggling to see what he actually did to to affect the game um and it's not just it's not just against Evon it's against Leicester as well and I I'm just not I want him to do well I want him to let let me let me give him a bit of um back in here um I think he's better as a forward not as a Winger I agree I'll give him a little bit of um little bit of leeway on that he's being played out of position um but he's he's flattering to to uh deceive at the moment I just think I think we need to cat in on him be honest with you I don't think he's ever going to play in the forward position because obviously slank is there and sun will be there if slank is missing so yeah I just can't see a future at this club for Johnson to honest even early early on in his career Mark Johnson our minus numbers allowed wow no no no what he does nothing he does absolutely nothing you know I mean you know well put it this way the reason I fed up with him is because I've been on several other channels defending him when we bought him everyone was saying oh he's rubbish he's this he's that I said no he's young he's young just wait just wait just wait he he'll prove you wrong but he's let me down now and so I give up defending him now I'm not defending him I think he must have pictures of an naked with kangaroos or something to keep getting in the team or or or something like that must be going on because because I don't understand why he's in the team to be honest I mean I go a three Okay C I'm just looking at fil laugh in his head off yeah you got me there f mark yeah other than the naked picture of an which I've permanently got into my head now with kangaroos withar with kangaroos kangaro um I forgot about the kangaroos I focus is onu naked um no I I I agree with Mark and I agree AJ I can't give him more than a four because even though he done that dribble that's all he offered right and you're a Winger right his dad was a striker by the way played for R Swit I believe I think he might have start David Johnson i d Johnson but was a really good Striker so I He's Not Gon to get his chance there he play Liverpool as well he is an poog's favorite because he keeps on putting him in ex really warrant to be put in look at I was I was saying earlier to you Adrian Pape matar plays one bad game and he gets dropped right I can think of 10 really bad games that Brenan Johnson's had and he still gets put in so it's a bit unfair in that respect but I think four I can't think of anything past that score you know because he he didn't offer anything apart from that little dribble which he did with Kulu and that was it rest of it rest of his play was nonexistent I'll give him a four as well oh yeah so just want just want to add just just to give him a little bit of backing that he's he is definitely been played out position when he played for Forest he was playing up front most of the time and he he did have some he did have some really good games do you know what I mean attacking football though yeah yeah I mean his game isn't suited on the wing his game is not suited on Wing his game is getting in behind through the TR through the channels and and beating the Defenders on with paace yeah that's that's his game no I never knew this this is this is look I never knew this this why the hell is he being played there well because an picks in there because an Ang's system is based on this is why verner's back Ang system is based on two wide Wingers with the electric Pace hug the touch line and he look look an is picking him we're just doing our critique on the player so lives or dies on the hill have a team performs this season he's got as my thing with pictures of this season as far as kangaroos I'm not just giving him Christmas not me but not the what I think will count for anything anyway but he needs he needs to drop him to the bench because the boy struggling he needs and he's really good when he comes on as an impact sub you know he's can I just quickly say I don't see with Johnson all this pace that people keep talking about when you look at Kulu is deceivingly quick people don't think kulu's quick but he's quicker than he then he appears because he's a lump he's a lump and he Powers up but Johnson is late on in the game exactly what Ellie said he's an impact sub you bring him on 10 15 minutes left to go when the team are tired you're putting balls in behind and you get him to run if you watch him play when he's out wide he doesn't play to face his man up and beat him he he gets the ball played into space and makes the run in behind because I think he's quick he's got quick acceleration but once he's got to his top speed yeah once yeah once he's got to his top speed like what's the what's the Everton fallback meleno is it he he he's not it's a testament to how bad he played we gave it to odbert more than him exactly I don't think the players trust to pass to him because he's he's wasteful and he doesn't use his Pace like you said right I don't yeah think all made a Justified critique on him on his performances the thing that's got us all perplexed is why an keeps picking him well the can for photos think don't see I don't think you see him in the starting 11 against well well we may not we may not but the reason the re the reason he's been picking him can only be one reason and that he shows something in training he doesn't show us fans on the pitch because otherwise you wouldn't pick him no I think the reason I think the reason he might get picked is because if you watch him he is and wants his two Wingers to hold the width and if you watch him Johnson does that that's about the only thing he doesn't beat his man he rarely gets him behind he he does hold the width which stretches the game and allows if you're going to play inverted fullbacks you need that width so that your inverted fullbacks can come and they're not going to get crowded out that's exactly it exactly it you hold the width when so you stret you stretch you stretch the defend just use just using him to you know for his position position he's not in a side he's he's not oh AJ's gone he's not in the side for that I mean like it's more than that he's not he's not in a side for onedimensional things and obviously sees look and sees something in him that we haven't or that we don't I mean he wouldn't get in put on the pitch just to hug the touch line no no I mean like you know you could put coola in the side for that if you worried about that again and people complain about that I mean I I right I just think that uh when we played Villa away he played very very well and when we played Arsenal away he played particularly well in the first let's not also on that let's there is parts of his game that are good when he's on song but he hasn't been on song for many games and also a Lester second half we all complained he didn't take his man on yeah in the first half of away at Leicester he had three shots at goal he had in the penal he had to turn and swivel which was good technique which to keep a save he had the shot which rolled past the far post and he had one from outside the Bo into the box plus he made five defense five defensive tackles more than any other player and that surprised me because I'm not really a stats person I'm an oldfashioned eyes sets person so he had a good half against Leicester just the second half if it had if it had that half in the second half and reversed him around people would say him probably didn't have a bad game he he was okay he was okay against Leicester we we want to see him beat his man that's what you want to see I mean that's the biggest complaint with him but he was so I can see why he got picked against Everton right but you know he can't go on like that we we need more from him you know we've we've moaned about Madison and bassum had to step up this season because they dropped off the second half of last season and we we were lucky that Emerson and Davis could pair up the center backs and and like when people talk about assist and the way with playing and play bear in mind after them 10 games but was suspended three times Romero was suspended once vdv was out injured Romero was out injured we hadj yeah we had 22 injured players last season more than any team in the Premier League and people are complaining about the system now this season I will complain about the system if we have a fit Squad throughout the system and a season goes to Pieces then I'll complain about it but I can't do an honest assessment on the on the system last season different if you're an Ang out or a lat or something like that you might come at it differently I understand that I understand that but like judge the system over a season now I'm not saying we got to be totally injuryf free but when we don't have a horrendous list of injuries that's all I'm saying that's what I'll do anyway I mean up to fans what they choose to do I mean like but that's what I should do I should judge the system because I I'll be honest I get what it is I ain't seen enough of it and I ain't seen enough consistency of our players and fitness throughout the squad for us to show us whether this system's good or not I mean Danny doesn't like the fallbacks that's fair enough that's an opinion I ain't got a problem with that but I mean before I come down you know before you will deact on things I mean like I want to see more of it I want to see more of it with a fit Squad you know so that's that's just me but Johnson at the moment I didn't look I go and watch these players people I go and watch I'll throw video ups for everyone when we link with the player whether we were interested in them or not we find out later or wherever I get rid of I'll go another look and have a look and like when I looked at Johnson before we got him I'm thinking well Pari likes him hold on the scouts I talk they like him and I'm thinking I don't get I don't get it I didn't get it before he came you know I mean like he was one I didn't get you know did we sign him on a couple of FA Cup games cuz far went quite far in the FA Cup That season and ripped Arenal the bit Championship he had done well one season the forest had scored about 10 or 11 goals or something and for his age and doing what he was doing he had impressed a lot of people but some players don't kick on you know now he's in the Premier League he's had that one season with Forest I think in the Premier League right I don't know how many goals he scored I know he banged quite in the championship he his stats listen we wouldn't have gone for him whatever his stats are they'd be good because we'd have done the data analysis as well so like his stats were good but you know stats don't always like you know I think we I think we play I think we picked the wrong player out the two Forest I like him but I'm not sure Gibbs white as a I don't know what an an Midfield player is now because when he wanted Connor Gallagher that seems to me wants to bring an energetic box-to-box player in you know in which case like well go get Edison if you want it to be a box tobox and whatever or go and get fres Juventus or go and get uh oh thinking I was gonna say F France at F I'm not sure where he is now mil he is he and there's a there's another guy we've looked at Mets or someone in France but he's a kid as they've looked at so I wouldn't be we can talk to that in a minute after done these we talk about that we'll talk about other players in a minute okay so I think we've like we've put firmly put Johnson through the m and we all want him to do well so let's hope he can turn it around okay so we got to do son and a so we do son Phil son Sunny yeah typical Sunny performance critical two goals finished lost his Pace rubbish selling get I've said it in I've in previous previous Chats on the different YouTube channels I think it's a myth I think him losing his Pace a myth I think um you know especially on that PF chance you know where I said fine but we'll be screwed without his goals and we will because we don't know what slank is gonna do yet yeah don't know yeah exactly exactly um but I I think Sunny's still still got that spark I think he's I think he's going to be our top goal scorer this season and without a doubt um he's the best finisher at the club and I can't believe the the the amount of doubt that's on Sunny uh for his fan base um I think I think he's he brings so much to this team um and yeah um May it continue marks me no I'm talking about Phil you didn't give a mark oh Mark Mark sorry um I give him a nine a nine AJ I own everything I say good or bad if I if I make a judgment if I make a comment on anybody or anything I own what I say I have been one of the people saying son's losing his Pace I've been one of the people saying he shouldn't be Captain I still I still stand by both of those with the exception of this game just gone in the Leicester game he was blowing out of his ass most of the game like he made a couple of runs forward and he was tired and he just wasn't putting in the he wasn't putting in the effort this game I don't know what happened but son turned up which is what I've been in I love son I absolutely love the guy I think he's incredible I think he's an elite finisher I I think he is somebody that is proud to wear the Spurs shirt which is what you want as a fan you want a man coming on that pitch that understands what it is to represent that football club and that's what you get with him is he slowing down yes the back end of last season preseason and with the exception of the match just gone the Leicester game included he was he hasn't been on it he showed up he led by example he put in an incredible performance he didn't stop running he's got to get a nine out of 10 for me okay I would say a 10 out of 10 but for me it is only Everton so I can't give him a 10 if he was scoring those two goals against an Arsenal or or a city then yeah the man gets a 10 out of 10 I just hope that the performance we saw against Everton is what we can expect from him this season because he deserves to be back to his best and he deserves to have everyone singing his name c he's a club Legend anyway already absolutely I think he's got 84 assists and 160 odd goals right which is a phenomenal I think he's like maybe number seven on her all time list or something like that I'd have to check that and and I think my goals are quite close it might be 170 odd goals but I'm saying he's got double the amount of goals to his assists and to have 84 assists is phenomenal anyway Le the amount of goals Mark you're Mark a son well yeah yeah I agree been Adrian a Adrian AJ said like he's he's a legend at the club already I mean he's just got top it off now with winning something yeah you know I mean it'd be such a shame if he when he decides to hang his boots up if he ain't won nothing here either well yeah exactly I mean that's one that's gone and didn't win nothing but is sunny losing his Pace Time Will Tell right he done he done it against Everton but you know to be honest I don't want him drop from the team cuz he's our best finisher but he was very ineffective against Leicester on the left you know he looked far better in the middle and he is our best finisher mark would you suffer a little less of Sonny's Pace if he's still going to get his 15 to 20 goals of season well exactly exactly yeah yeah yeah chush you take that all day every day you know when you know when we say he's losing his Pace heo blasters right I do respectfully like dis disagree with you I like with AJ I I agree with most points to be fair you know um but I I just think with him losing his P he's still quick he's still quick do you know what I mean not say still a very quick player um but like how do we measure that he's lost his Pace like how do we measure that there are stats for it I don't look for those stats because I'm that's what I would that's what I would like that's what I would like to know as a stat you know to be honest off Off the Mark when he's when he's traveling with the ball or without the ball you know run running onto the ball different comp our fastest midfielder but kulu's fast bentor yeah say Kulu slow probably because he's big like AJ says it might seem he might seem deceptive because of his sze right and bentor is not slow going forward with the ball right so and kulu's not slow even rison's fast believe it or not he is fast right as well so okay you gave him I never gave him a Mark um go Mark's going to give them Mark goals two goals eight eight yeah really right I want to mention about his Pace first and foremost right so I think what Sonny does he he doesn't he wants to go fast right and pick up the pace and what he finds is that he runs out of steam because he's remember his legs getting older so I don't think he's lost that initial pace but I think he's lost the pace to run on and keep that pace up but what impressed me a lot in this game when he was running with Van Deen what he did he saw that he was running right and then when he got to the halfway line he realized that he had to pick up the pace right so he can really pick up the pace very quickly but when he's going for a long long run I think he loses it a little bit so he has lost that little bit bit of extra Pace that he's got to put on the second burners no because you always have your first burner but it's the second burner that I've noticed right but he has to Pace himself now because he's older right what I like about him he brings a lot to our game you know and he's he's always looking for the ball but sometimes these ball skills can be found wanting at times you know where it's sort of like hot cake but having said that I love him because he's so clinical in front of gold there's no one in the Premiership like him apart from when we had Kane he's he's better clinically um clinical finisher Kan but Sonny I think he's the second best even better than harand because harand gets it laid on the plate whereas Sonny he makes his own goals a lot of the time or you know when he bangs him in but this year I think we are better deployed better at deploying him as a striker alongside the lanky rather than on the wing but I'm afraid they're going to probably push him to the wing because you can't really have you can have two in there we've always had in the past two in there so there's no need there's no reason why sorry that we can't but I I just can't see POA doing it AJ's got to go he's given and you eight so you gave him yeah I'm giving him I'm giving him an eight and a half actually I'll give him eight and a half right because I don't think he quite a nine but two goals fabulous I'm G to give him a nine and because I just thought he led by example I just liked everything he was chasing everything down I just thought he had an excellent game much better than some of his recent games I found it against Leicester this is another thing when you're judging a player you got to judge what's going on around him as well UD doggy supposed to do overloads with him was off it you doggy wasn't on point right and there's like different areas of Pac and trickery that Winger needs which ad doy when he was close to a player he was like quick-footed and he was trying to change from feet to feet and get past or he' passed the ball back with sunny he might have just lost a bit of reflexes there and that sort of a position when you got a stand a player up when you when you've stopped with the ball basically and your defend is against you and now you've got to you know spring into action left or right I think he might be a bit slower there uh in doing that maybe his reflexes a little bit he's still got an EI a goal can score with both feet I just think in those situations he looks a little bit off it off it to me I don't know I haven't really uh it's just something I'd love to I'd love to know that that stat though do you know what I mean just just how fast he is just just how fast he is you know running onto the ball or or chasing the ball do you know I mean off Google it Google it it might come up I agree with Ellie I agree with Ellie he's not got that the blistering Pace like he showed against Burnley anymore the after burners you re the real after burners you know I'm not knocking him I love Sunny the bits I want him to stay forever the I want him to stay forever butan when do you think he's lost that when did he lose it last season like well it's his age you know he's well possibly some of last season some of these slight players they just keep their Pace they don't drop off you look at some of the older players now that are playing at 36 you know giru and Ronaldo and Messi and people like that they they've still got the go to play the game and they've got all that experience as well like you know so I I think he's Sonny's got all the G and everything that he's built up over years I think he's good for a couple of years easy for us I mean season fans will say get rid of him and if next season it'll be out that but listen I would even keep him after that if he was on the bench and use him as an impact sub I would still keep him until he until it really you know some players when you know they're really shot and they're gone then you then you with a player like son you wait to that moment he'll know himself he'll know yeah yeah to say that Sunny's slowed down there's no is no slight at him because let's face it he was Lightning Fast he was absolutely lightning now if he's only lost one or two% of that he's still quick and you can't say he isn't that's what I was trying know still he's still a quick player you know yeah but but but but let's face it he hasn't got that burnly goal Pace anymore that's what I'm trying to say you know where he just like three seconds he he ran the whole length of the pitch and slotted it in the net I don't believe he's gotten certainly not like Ellie said over them long distances anymore I'm not I'm not so sure I'll leave it that anyway I'm not we come to you for an give us your an verdict numbers um I'd give him an eight okay um simply because I think he made some Brave uh selections um one being basuma um I expected him to be in there um but I think it was just a brave selection for Anders to do um and and with oderbert as well odbert was a was a brave decision you know bringing in a kid 19 years of age you know what I mean so and they both paid off in the game and they both played well um so that's why I'm good eight yeah and he's give he's give a player a young player a game early 90 minutes there was lots of criticism from fans and it was just if they had a point last year about late substitutions for young players coming on I think he's got more confidence in his Squad now he's I think he's got more confidence to throw gry and bergville in you know you want to see him play for an hour and a half you want to see him play a game but I think you'll see them play for halves in a an hour before that happens but we'll see what happens in the Europa League because I think that's a good chance to give them a game eight games if you can win four or five of them you might have three you can play around with you know your Ang vote Mark yeah I agree with Phil yeah an eight and but you know I don't want to drag the team down so I don't want to sound negative but like let's face it Andre won't have a much easier game this season to manage you know because we just ran Riot over him the whole game you know I mean you never know they're easy games till afterwards when you won no no no of course not of course not of course not but but like but let's face it he could have brought me and you on it at halftime Adrian and and we'd have still won that game we played well within ourselves I thought we stepped off the second goal to be honest thought there was just a little dip in what we were doing and that can sink in and be a bad thing at times if a team scores a goal against you you know all a sudden now you got to pick it up again you know Ellie an yeah on that point right about just before I go on L I don't think we had that Killer Instinct when we went two new up I said I turn around to Phil p and uh I said to him we haven't got that killer instinct to kill the team off and if they' scored it with those penalty sorry those threee kicks and the corners if they had scored one of those it would have been a bit squeaky bum time we know what happens we tend to panic and draw or lose the game all right so I was quite concerned about that but I think an has worked on the set pieces it looks like it he has anyway cuz were doing a bit of zonal and a bit of man marking as well which I like I like the mix I prefer it right actually I prefer proper man marking but we're not going to get that in this day and age so it worked well and Vicario done well as well but with an I think he deserves an eight because he made he made the substitutions when he saw Madison was tiring um and other players weren't pulling their weight you know he probably thought I'll take him off because they're not doing quite what I want them to do um and an is quite ruthless like that so what what criticism he had last season he wasn't making the substitutions early enough but I think he made the first one on the 64 65 minute Mark which gives that player enough time to affect the game like you give them 25 minutes half an hour it's nice but where you give them five six minutes or even one two minutes what do you expect the player to do it's it's an insult to the player as well because he's been sitting on the bench that long and you're only giving him in a minute or two now so I like that and I I would have liked to seen more of bero earlier on because I think he deserved to come on I'd like to but um plenty of time there's plenty of time for us to see all these a good score for him because he was quite a nine and it wasn't bad as a seven even though SI it's not a bad score but I'm giving him an eight as well now we'll have we'll have a chat about so how are you feeling guys it's two games I know people were disappointed after Leicester but we have got four points which is no bad start right and let's be fair I mean I know the fans react differently but the next two games aren't going to determine our season we got fre Cup competitions and the rest of The League season that play but it is you know the tension's there the pressure's on Newcastle away now how you feeling I mean like he an picked his Squad of 20 and considering that sanki and Ben aor have got to come back and Mikey Moore will get time that's another three so with the 28 gives you 23 minimum if they're named in a squad and I expect Mikey Moore he's underage anyway so we go on the b list I would have thought so that's 23 even with those Phils team selection he's going to have some team selections to to deal with during the season isn't he he's going to have mations because I like to pick the team selections for fun and sometimes I'm I was two players out for this week you know other times I'm one out but with that don't know what you're going to get are you are you happy with the shape with the squad even though we could do another one or two could before Friday yeah I'd like another one or two players in to be honest with um especially especially in left back or left Center back role um I'd like I'd like another Winger to be honest but I don't I don't think it's going to happen um but on to the Newcastle game I think um I think it's a good time to play him at the moment um it's not going to be easy it's it's never easy um against Newcastle away let's be honest but I think they've got a lot of injuries at the moment um and their form isn't great so I think we can get I I'm pretty confident about this game I'm pretty confident um I think we'll I think we'll get a narrow win I think it'll be a 2-1 win um yeah we'll go in depth on it Friday when we discuss because we have been going over two and a half hours I just want to get your general consent of how you're feeling about the start uh I don't think bad start at all actually I mean I mean the start yeah me AG the start itself I think we should have got three points against Leicester let's be honest I mean you know a one all draw felt felt like a loss um but we move um also we beat Lester and Everton and all the fan base are going the quadruples on then aren't they because we have point I don't know about that like but be down the quadruples on and he W like he will but I I really wanted them six points because we've got a run of fixtures now that are going to be tough um oh I just felt that having them six points would have been really important it's bit it yeah like you say Mark it's a bit of a safet in that um and I think we you know them two points is is is important but we we moveed we've got four points um the everting game was a great response to the leester game and I think we go into uh the Newcastle game with a little bit of confidence um and like I said it's a good time to play him yeah Mark what what do you think I mean like you know we had a 20 20 man squad then we nine Subs there and like and that's without salanki bent aor Mikey Mo even and without I mean I'm expecting at least one in this surely we're going to get l pull a rabbit out of the Hat we get at least one more in surely and what do you think that'll be because I don't think it'll be on the forward line I'd be surprised if my goodness um right now the first two games yes we're all disappointed with the Leicester one you ever on one is it's a given you you know I mean I would like six points just for that safety net because we got some put it this way go and beat Newcastle at St James's Saturday or Sunday whenever it is and I'll be more than impressed you know you know because the last two times we've been there we've lost 102 and it was it 61 and 4-1 last two games there 4 n we lost all right all right it's 10 it's 101 then in the last two games we've been there it was 61 61 and 4-0 yeah you know I think I think the crowd is a big um you know it always is the m reasons why we sort of against 32 Eric scored that um yeah the own goal we beat him 32 we have beaten up there all we beat and they beat us at w Lane 21 as well yeah yeah yeah well we beat him 4-1 didn't we what was the other half of your point Adrian because I no I was saying that like well we picked 20 for the game would we yeah without bent and cor and sang I mean surely this is going to give an a nice selection headache because if he put he's take two out isn't he who you take out now we could all pick Johnson veron's not playing otherwise we'd pick him right you can all say well Johnson goes for sanki or bentor then that probably would mean that Dei would have to go back out on the wing again right because but but like I mean like and that's without bringing anyone else in so we're getting into a position with a squad I think you know I us to ask people are we trading water going backwards or going forwards I think we're trading water and we've moved a bit forward and to to confirm that we need to see them young kids get 90 minutes under their belts and show that they can play for 90 minutes under their belts because although bergal and gray look good Gray's done it in a championship I'm sure he can do it right uh it's tough environment I'm not so sure with bergville although bergville looks very skillful and very talented but you still got to be a to do it for 90 minutes and you can't judge these players on one 190 minute game you need to see them play five or six so the best chance them are really getting minutes under the belt to prove that they are really good is probably in the Europa League in my opinion not risking them in one League Cup or the FA Cup if we draw if we draw which we will we're GNA have eight different teams in Europa League eight different now hopefully you know I mean the spread comes out well for us home and away yeah there will be some good teams in there but we should we I mean we should get to if we're in pot one there's eight pots of four teams let's hope we don't get to all three say the other side of Europe you know six hour flight and all that four teams instead of like four pots of eight teams or whatever and you're drawing two out of each pot I'm not quite sure I did have I've forgotten how it works but if it's eight pots of four teams you're going to get eight teams but they're all going to be different ones so then then we'll see what we get in the draw and then Angel think about that you know it's down the team isn't it to going like yeah do the analysis on the opposition and and like like he say pick the team for each particular game so we'll see what Happ day Ellie what are you thinking about the fact we got bent aore and sank definitely going to come in and get games and so as bent aore Mikey Morton Europe probably um yeah and if he shines he can play on for the under 21s Mike G more PL mainly played on the left and we got abundance on the left now you got son Al bird verer Mikey Moore you know I mean yeah I'd like to see Mikey Moore get a chance like Off the Bench but with a quite a lot of minutes not just five or 10 give him at least half hour or 45 minutes even you know it would have been ideal for him um Saturday yeah because we had that game completely in the back I'm not even sure if he was on even on the bench yeah was he on the bench Saturday um yeah he was wasn't he what to be honest the under 21s wasn't he oh right I didn't do the print out of the squad the whole Squad I had it on a phone because I was going out the game got because of obviously the under 21s though wasn't he still being the lineup on your phone Eddie uh Ellie be in the lineup on your phone my phone's gone dead right but um I'd like I'd love to see sanky and Sonny play together as a partnership it'd be brilliant you know because they're both they're both quick with their brains and they're both really good on the ball you know like when you pass them the ball especially salanki I think he's got more technical skill but Sonny's got more and he and he's clued up and he's very clinical in front of goal so it'd be lovely to see him join up um because when he was playing on the left I think he was wasted I like Sonny I like Sonny to be in the middle seeker and affect the game more I don't know but the stats show that he's more I I remember being on the Irish hotg and they did the stats and it showed that Sonny's more effective when he's played on the left and that's why he's being put on the left but I I prefer him when he's in the middle because he's so clinical and me and me bster dragas and Gray Davis verer bergville RIS and Spence so you know you're looking I would have thought that somehow think Vera's GNA I would have thought that Davis would be under threat and Vera would be under threat and subs for senen and whatever which would make us look strengthen us a bit more you know I'm surprised forers come straight back in at expense of Austin who I thought did well pre-season but you know they see more in training he's in his last year so perhaps Austin will be with just be number three yeah right I think I think we've done all we show went well I thought on on I my guest I'm not going to name them they know they are I want to thank all of you in the chat much big up to all of you especially who can bother to take the time to watch us on playback like I Friday show at 8 we do a show Friday at 8 and Sundays as well three regular shows at 8 o'clock new Co time and uh this Friday we'll be doing the we'll be doing the rundown Europa League opposition the eight teams we've got to face we'll be doing the show from 8 to 11:00 because 11:00 is when the transfer window shuts so we're going straight through to1 I'm sure we'll find enough to talk about U plus any other news that crops up between now and then if we get a new signing in or whatever news I can give you is that Solomon has signed for a seasoned loan to lead United I can tell you that under 21s under 18s won 51 but our under 21s lost one nil to Newcastle oh that's and the last game and ladies don't play until late in September their first game but the last game they won 21 against Southampton ladies prior to that they beat London is 51 wasn't it or five yeah London London City lesses yeah 51 51 or six something like that yeah is it 51 or six one five five one I think yeah that is about that so I will play you out with come on la [Music] la [Music] la