The first, and what may be the only presidential debate between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris is now in the books. Trump and some of his allies insist that he won the face off, but CNN polls show Vice President Harris soundly defeated the former president. Now, let's discuss with former Georgia Lieutenant Governor Jeff Duncan. He's part of Republicans for Harris. Jeff, thanks so much for being with us. What are you hearing from Republicans and independents that you've spoken to that went into last night? Open to hearing the VP's pitch. Well, in its simplest form, Kamala Harris had a really good night. Donald Trump had a really bad night and her upward trajectory is going to continue. It's going to be interesting to watch how much worse Donald Trump makes this situation, or the fallout from the debate, how he reacts to getting punched in the face in the public square. I think you were watching him kind of grasp at straws, but certainly this only helped one candidate, and that's Kamala Harris. And for me, as a Republican who's trying to play a bank shot here of electing a Democrat so we can actually get our party back by defeating Donald Trump permanently. this was a this was a good night last night, but work to be done and minds to to be convinced still. I do think there's this growing sense of of encouragement, a sense of, responsibility amongst Republicans to do the right thing in this race. So I do think we're starting to see a groundswell. What did you think about looking at, say, these flash polling numbers where Trump actually grew his advantage over Harris on the economy with voters? This is still a considerable disadvantage for her. And she did dodge a question about implementing or why she did not implement some of these economic policies that she's proposing. considering she has been a part of this current administration for almost four years. Yeah, certainly. I mean, there's some staggering. You know, there's a staggering delta between his polling numbers on the economy and hers. And certainly that's that's a difficult spot for her. But I do think the economy is so complex right now. Right? I mean, if you're an individual who's trying to find a way to retire in the next few years, you're really happy with this economy. Your 41K is strong. Your investments are strong. Your house is worth more than it's ever been. If you're somebody trying to buy a house for the first time, it's difficult. So I do think it is a blurred blurred message across with the economy. But if you think about some of the easier subject matters, that he could have probably landed some big punches on, like Afghanistan and flip flopping on some of the issues and inflation as a whole. I just felt like every time they got to that precipice, she baited a man or launched into a little bit of a, of a of an angle, and he just took the bait and he never really amplified, really. What he should have, should have taken, taking her to task for that was his fault, not hers. Jeff, what did you make of his line about people eating dogs? Yeah, I'm confused. Right? I got three teenage kids, so I mean, they kind of keep me up to date. I had no idea what was going on until I started googling. But, look, you know, we're trying to elect a commander in chief to help us figure out a way to navigate through difficult situations globally, domestically, the border. certainly, if he wants to play that game. And that's really kind of been the shtick he's played. just try to be, you know, off target, and impromptu. And unfortunately, he didn't get to some of the big issues. I do think one of the most damning things that he did the entire night is not commit to defending Ukraine. I think that spooks so many different angles in this world. could you imagine being in Ukraine or Poland and thinking that somebody is going to walk in day one? What did Vladimir Putin do when he said that? I'm sure he had a smirk on his face and and leaned up in his chair, when Donald Trump, made those awful, you know, assumptions that he wasn't going to support Ukraine. you know, at the risk of asking you a question that that may appear superficial, but I actually would argue, I think is substantive because I think people do make a decision on how people interact. I am curious what you thought about the handshake at the beginning, and also the fact that Trump did not look at Harris through the entire debate. And this is this was the first time that we have seen them together. So this was a chance for voters to have this first chance to see them together. What did you think of those moments? I thought the handshake was a brilliant move. And not only was it the handshake, it was the initiation by her which was obvious. His his subtle reluctance. You don't want to get there, but she did it in front of his podium. She took the handshake right to his podium. And so I thought that was a brilliant move as they went forward and the whole optics of staring, I mean, he just was staring out into space, you know, just getting punched after punch after punch. And, you know, certainly we got to see the ramifications in the Biden debate where he was kind of staring off into the abyss and some of those questions where he wasn't necessarily coached up on the fact that the camera was going to be on with a split screen. So I thought she not only handled the substance of the debate very, very well. I do think she handled the optics of the debate even. Well, very well to Jeff Duncan. Thank you so much. Appreciate the perspective.