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LAST NIGHT'S PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE AS A FORMER BIDEN ADMINISTRATION TREASURY OFFICIAL, LET'S GET THE PERSPECTIVE FROM OUR NEXT GUEST. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE STANDS FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER KEVIN McCARTHY, AND FORMER SPEAKER, SPEAKER McCARTHY, GOOD TO HAVE YOU ON. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME BACK. >> I ASKED EARLIER, PRETEND YOU'RE A.I. BUT NOT THE BIAS WHAT WE'RE -- ACTUALLY UNBIASED. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT >> LOOK, I THINK MISSED OPPORTUNITIES FOR TRUMP. I THINK THERE WAS A DISADVANTAGE ABC REALLY WON-SIDED I THINK SHE PERFORMED BETTER THAN EXPECTATIONS BUT DIDN'T DO WHAT SHE NEEDED TO DO, KAMALA HARRIS IF YOU TAKE THAT "NEW YORK TIMES" POLL, THERE'S A BIG CHUNK THAT'S STILL WANTS TO KNOW WHAT IS HER PLAN? TALKED ABOUT ONE BUT DIDN'T TELL IT TRUMP SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED TO FRAME HER. I THOUGHT TRUMP'S ENDING WAS GOOD WHY DIDN'T YOU DO ANYTHING I WISH HE WOULD HAVE STARTED AT THE BEGINNING WITH THAT. HE DID TAKE THE BAIT AT TIMES, CROWD SIZE AND OTHERS, BUT END OF THE DAY, EVEN WATCH OTHER CHANNEL IT'S LIKE CNN DOING A FOCUS GROUP SAYING, KAMALA WON BUT I'M NOT VOTING FOR HER I DON'T THINK IT MAKE AS DIFFERENCE IT'S BIG TAYLOR SWIFT BUT I'D "SHAKE IT OFF. EIGHT WAKES AWAY. >> THERE YOU GO. >> THAT "NEW YORK TIMES" POLL THAT CAME OUT THIS WEEKEND WAS TELLING WHEN IT SAYS SHE HAS STALLED. IT'S BAD IF TRUMP IS WINNING IN A NATIONAL POLL HE'S WINNING BIG IN ELECTORAL COLLEGE. >> WHY DO THE DEBATES IF YOU DON'T THINK IT WILL MAKE A DIFFERENCE >> WELL -- DEBATES TODAY, YOU HAVE TO, IN A BASIS, TO DO IT, BUT IT'S NOT WHAT THE PEOPLE WANT IN A DEBATE IN MY VIEW, THERE'S NO UNDECIDED VOTER IN AMERICA IT'S COMING DOWN TO WHO GETS OUT THE LOW-PROPENSITY VOTERS AND -- >> AN ARGUMENT GOING AFTER YOUR BASE ATTACKING RIGHT OR LEFT DEPENDING ON THE CANDIDATE YOU ARE. >> COMES DOWN TO TWO DEBATES PENNSYLVANIA AND GEORGIA TRUMP IS AT 270. DOESN'T NEED ARIZONA DOESN'T NEED NEVADA. YOU'LL FIKE, THAT IF THAT'S THEM MONEY, TRUMP IS GOING TO WIN WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ALL OF THOSE EXCITED IN THE HARRIS CAMP, BEHIND WHERE HILLARY SAT BY THREE POINTS TODAY. EIGHT POINTS BEHIND IN POLLS BIDEN WAS SITTING TODAY. BIDEN ONLY WON BY 48,918 VOTES WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS SHE MADE A MISTAKE IN -- PICKED GOVERNOR SHAPIRO A DIFFERENT RACE. >> HERE'S ANOTHER QUESTION TO ME THE MOST DAMNS THING SAID LAST NIGHT CONTINUING TO SAY HE WON THE ELECTION, IT WAS STOLEN FROM HIM SAID IT REPEATEDLY THAT'S GOT TO MAKE SOME AMERICANS SAY -- >> THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE NEVER NOT SAID IT. >> HAS HE SAID ANYTHING DIFFERENT HE HASN'T SAID THE LAST FOUR YEARS? >> BRINGS IT TO FOREFRONT VOTERS WORRIED THERE WILL BE AN ISSUE. >> BUT ARE THEY GOING TO VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS? I WOULD SAY -- >> PEOPLE WILL MAKE A DECISION WHEN THEY GO TO THE GROCERY STORE AND IT COSTS MORE. WHAT HE SHOULD HAVE DONE AND SHOULD SAY ABOUT KAMALA EVERY TIME IT'S MORE OF THE SAME. I THINK DEMOCRATS HAVE DONE VERY WELL TRYING TO DISTANCE HER FROM BIDEN BUT THAT IS WHERE THE COMMENTATING SHE LITERALLY SAID TO THAT SAME ABC REPORTER SHE WOULD CONFISCATE GUNS AND USE AN EXECUTIVE ORDER TO DO IT AND NO ONE WENT BACK AT HER. >> THE KAMALA HARRIS OF A MONTH AGO THAT NO ONE KNEW ANYTHING ABOUT, THE SAME DEMOCRATIC VOTERS, THEY'RE JUST AS THINTH ENTHUSIASTIC AS A MONTH AGO. THEY WOULD WOULD BE WITH HER ALL ALONG. WHO DID SHE CONVERT? NOT SURE ANYONE IS LEFT TO CONVERT. ANYBODY BUT -- COULD THERE BE ANOTHER DEBATE >> NO. >> THERE WILL NOT BE ANOTHER DEBATE >> THAT'S MY OPINION I'M NOT RUNNING THE CAMPAIGN KAMALA DID WHAT SHE FEELS SHE WANTED TO DO DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE A MISTAKE I DON'T THINK IT WILL CONTROL THE OUTCOME. >> IF TRUMP DOESN'T CONTROL HIM, HE HAD SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES I THINK HE WENT IN THERE WITH THE NOTION I AM GOING TO HIGHLIGHT HER RECORD AND WHAT HAPPENED, BUT THEN HE DIDN'T DO IT. >> LET'S NOT OVER THINK IT YOU HAD A WEDDING DIDN'T GO EXACTLY AS YOU WANTED BUT NO ONE ELSE REALLY KNOWS IT. >> I THINK OTHER PEOPLE KNOW. >> TRUMP CONTROLLED HIMSELF MORE THAN NORMAL. >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S AN ARGUMENT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD. >> DID HE MISS OPPORTUNITIES WHAT SHE DID WELL I WOULD SAY, SHE WOULD AVOID THE ANSWERING THE QUESTION THEN PIVOT TO SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT THE CROWD SIZE OR TALK ABOUT WHARTON. >> JUMPED RIGHT ON IT! EVERY ONE OF THOSE -- >> HE SHOULD HAVE AVOIDED IT. >> WHAT DOES THAT TELL YOU ABOUT HIS ABILITY -- ONE OF THE COMMENTATORS MAYBE MEN ARE JUST TOO EMOTIONAL BEING PRESIDENT. >> NO. NOT AT ALL SIMPLY PUT, DID TRUMP MAKE THE TOUGH DECISIONS WHEN IT CAME TO PUTIN NEVER INVADED ANOTHER