welcome to the most irreverent disrespectful podcast on the airway and if you're dumb enough to still be tuning in listen to the sound of my voice please do me a favor and call up some of your dumb ass friends so they can listen too now get all you unintelligent [ __ ] in the group and say [ __ ] y ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another episode of the CT Fletcher presents the [ __ ] y'all podcast I'm going laugh every time I say that I'm sorry today we have not one but two special guests joining us first we have a living legend in the world of professional wrestling a man whose name is synonymous with power intensity sheer dominance he's a former NFL player ter wrestling Superstar two-time WCW World Heavyweight Champion WWE Hall of Famer ladies and Gentlemen please welcome the one and only Bill Goldberg and if that was not enough if that was not enough we're also thrilled to welcome his son who is following in his legendary Father's Footsteps making a name for himself on the grid iron it's a honored to have both of you guys on the podcast welcome Bill and Gage Goldberg to the [ __ ] y'all podcast thank you gentlemen for joining us enough for letting us be a part of it man it's aw here the name is freaking hilarious you know I noticed uh as as soon as you start talking about Bill and his accomplishments his legendary accomplishment be appointed to Gage his son and I know uh Gage and I know you know also you got to that your number one fan is your dad and I have never you know as long as I've known him I never seen him light up or smile harder than when he talks about you you are his heart and I know exactly how that feels I got mine sitting over there on the couch so know exactly how that feels I wanted to talk to you about the pressure is there any pressure added pressure I know it's going to be pressure anyway regardless whoever your dad is but any added pressure because Bill Goldberg is your dad I mean yeah there's defin there's obviously added pressure to it um whether it's playing High School football um just graduated from that but I always had a chip on my shoulder I always had a Target on my back and people would try to come after me every game and all that all the trash talk whatever um and then all the trash talk online everyone hates it and whatever and then going to Colorado everyone's like yeah you can't do it you can't do it whatever and I'm like okay and like that that's why that's why I'm playing on the football field and that's why you're sitting in your chair typing online absolutely you that's the uh Samson I'm ask you the same question uh you you get where Gage is coming from because you guys are ABS abolutely course his dad is on a different level but it's kind of on a much smaller level kind of absolutely 100% you know um you're trying to do something you know and and and you know redo it in your own you know uh way of doing it you know and you you're always going to have that Target on your back like you know like Gage said just because you're the you know the son of a legend you know which Crea you know um yeah just to added stress it's going to be there but you got to just learn to just mute it and let them talk let them talk Bill uh now you Gage mentioned the online comments and there gonna always be [ __ ] talkers online um how does that make you feel as a dad as his dad man we can talk about this for like four hours um where do where do I even begin first and foremost yeah it sucks being my son being your son being any person's son that's in the Limelight right because they immediately have a Target on their back they immediately got to live up to your reputation they immediately you know have people ragging on them because they're jealous of them yep they were they were born into a wonderful situation but what people don't understand is that you just can't walk out of the womb and you know be be have discipline one and you don't walk out of the womb having a a good logical head on your shoulders right and so you have to be taught these things and just because you're a Goldberg just because you're a Fletcher doesn't mean that you automatically assume all of these these traits from our their their father right they have to put the work in themselves they have to create the situation for themselves not writing on anyone's back and I think what it does is you know I didn't like Gates play football till he was in 10th Grade because he cogn cognitively understood that with a name like Goldberg on his back people are gonna freaking go after him yep and I would a thousand per I'd want to test myself against somebody like that because he's supposedly the best or he's got lineage right and yeah I want to go after the biggest baddest dude on the other team that's my mindset and um so yeah I mean I I couldn't even imagine how shitty of an experience it is for these guys especially in today's day and age with the computer and with social media and everybody being a [ __ ] and everybody and not no men really walk on the earth anymore guys like us gotta kind of hide in the closet um but the fact is is that it it but you know my dad taught me a lot of sayings and they all kind of hold true and uh path of least resistance is one you just don't pay attention to them you know you don't pay attention to them at all and you make the you let the fuel you know you let it be fuel for your fire and I got it when I was a kid not because my dad was you know world-renowned obstetrician gynecologist I got it because I was Jewish yeah and whatever it may be you guys maybe got it because you're black right I got it because I was Jewish um and it gave me a chip on my shoulder and it made me be the biggest baddest son of a [ __ ] that I could be because I internalized it and I wanted to prove everybody wrong and I used it as fuel and I still use it today as fuel um till the day I die I'll use it as fuel but you know not to segue away from the original question but um you know it's a I I can only imagine how it is for Gage and for Samson and all I can say sitting from in my seat looking at Samson and watching you guys from afar because we don't live in California anymore thank God and but I'm so proud of both of these kids that have been able to persevere through the [ __ ] of what we call social media and make it to where they both stand today I mean that's that in itself is an admirable accomplishment so um I I'm just looking for bigger and better things man every day is a new day and it it ain't about me I can tell you all this [ __ ] and you live it you've been living in ic and I know I know you um it's time to pass the Baton I can't lift what he can in in the gym anymore and I knew one of the best days of my life was when we went upstairs and got on the neck machine and he could do more weight than me know for being Goldberg I live of that neck machine I do it every day of my life I I notice how beefy is NE but that's uh I mean people only a dad would understand that yeah the it's when my competition when I competed as what I thought you know I was really happy when I won but it's nothing compared nothing compared to going to a competition and seeing my son win oh man so it's well you you know but do you want to slap the [ __ ] out of people when you see a comment on the internet I I some me personally I I wish I could reach through the [ __ ] computer screen I I just don't read them bro I don't any of mine I don't read any of his because it just it's a path I gotta Follow My Father's Footsteps man the path of leads resistance these people don't mean [ __ ] to me right mean nothing to me I greatly now don't get me wrong I greatly appreciate fans more so than anybody in the world because I wouldn't be who who I was you wouldn't be who you were without the people who appreciate what you do but the [ __ ] that sit online that don't have anything better to do that can't do a pushup that don't understand what it's like playing college football that don't understand what it's like being a weightlifter a powerlifter you know they they continue to talk their [ __ ] because they hide behind these screens and I I just I don't path the least resistance man if I don't see it I can't I don't have to get pissed off about it I get pissed off with enough stuff it's interesting you bring that up we had Terry Cruz on the first episode a couple of weeks ago and and we asked him the same question as far as how he deals with social media and all the negativity that comes with it and his comment was like the complete opposite his thing was I read everything and he was like reading the negative comments all of that stuff he said it just lights this fire in him and it just keeps him going to see and for me on the outside looking in somebody who's not in the Limelight it always amazes me to see people get on the internet follow somebody that they claim they hate just to sit there and talk [ __ ] to him all day in the comment section I I the logic behind that makes absolutely no sense to me and I'm like well if you think this person sucks so bad or they can't do this right they why are you following me why would you follow me and then say something derogatory that's gonna piss me off that's gonna make me block you yeah that's does man so Gage let me ask you you being a young man and we know how popular social media and all that stuff is how do you handle that do you read the comments does it you just said a minute ago about having that chip on your shoulder is that what keeps that chip on your shoulder is that what keeps you going keeps that fire lit under you yes sir I just I just I I I read like almost all my comments and whenever I see them I just laugh and I'm like okay whatever you read your Samson do you read your yeah I still do until this day he still get hot under the collar yeah but you know I go in there and tear my body up again just to you know keep proving you know myself right and know that I'm on the right path yeah but at the end of the day man you know no anybody's opinion shouldn't matter you know you've got enough Drive in your body and and through your blood through your going through your veins to where if if if there wasn't social media and there wasn't that trigger of people talking negative about you that would make you want to go in the gym you'd wake up in the you'd wake up anyway and want to be absolutely I don't I don't I don't think that's part of your motiv I mean it's added motivation for sure but you don't need to be motivated to do to be where you are right now I mean it's just ingrained in us you know it's just is it's who we are and I like everybody says you know five minutes ago hey you aren't you that wrestler no man I'm a I'm a defensive lineman you know inherently that's what I am truly if you look at the definition of a d lineman I'm a knuckle dragon head button I don't care about [ __ ] I'm running through that wall to do what I have to do and that's that's me as a human being and I just I never want to change that and I'm I'm kind of proud of that and and you shouldn't change it because things that's for somebody who was a fan of yours when you first that's the things that we love about you as a football player as a professional wrestler so don't ever change that part of you that's the thing who your true fans love and we respect about you and yeah we couldn't see you being any other way I app app that but it's tough and CT you know this it's tough being dad and being that guy at the same time because there's a line you have to to stand on and a couple times I've almost crossed that line but these people like we moved here in Texas six years ago almost six years ago and these people have no idea who I am because I've been dad the whole time they have no idea who I for nobody to some of them do but the B really don't but it's it's it's a fine line you got to juggle you really have to juggle so Gage while we're talking to you let's first of all let's congratulate you on committing to Colorado and playing for Coach Prime congratulations that was awesome can I ask you what what was your deciding factor why Colorado and why coach Prime I mean my deciding factor I mean coach Prime he's just great coach really good friend of him and I mean I just wanted to go somewhere that I'm going to absorb everything that I'm taught and like the coaching staff at Colorado all the NFL experience they have it's crazy 176 years of NFL experience yeah wow crazy wow and I'm gonna be learning so much there the weight coaches there are awesome were're in the weight room every day okay I love it up I've been up I've been up there for the last month too yeah all right you ready to play in that cold weather up there yes sir I can't wait love the cold do you you better than me in that aspect man I I don't deal with that cold weather too well but Bill let me start with you there's one thing that I've always been interested in 2018 you were inducted into the WWE Hall of Fame and in that Hall of Fame speech you took some time out of that speech to recognize CT and at that particular moment I didn't know CT personally but I had been following him for years and even though I didn't know him personally he held a special place in my heart just for where he helped get me to this point where I am now so what is it let me ask you what is it about your relationship with CT that makes it so special and so genuine to where you felt like you had to show him love in your Hall of Fame speech because I thought that was a beautiful segment in that speech well first and foremost thank you man I wish I I would have devoted more time to it but I mean you tried to touch on the people that have made the biggest impacts in your life and even though CT and I hadn't known each other very long prior to that um he he pulled me out of a couple deep spots right whether he knew it or not whether it was through osmosis or whether it was just through looking into his soul when he's you know talking on uh the strongest man that nobody's ever heard of right it was that video that that made me realize that he and I were kind of one of the one of the same people in a lot of ways um you know and and man I don't call too many people for advice I can tell you that first and foremost there is no my dad's not here anymore I got two older brothers who I talk to and there's not many humans that walk this planet that I respect and appreciate enough or confide in enough to pick up the phone and and talk to them manto man and CT is one of those guys and I'm not going to go into detail by any stretch but he's pulled me out of a couple places um you know that were that were not very favorable yeah and um for that and for the person that he is and for the example that he sets you know I have the endearment that I do for him yeah man I gotta speak on before you leave that subject I was uh Gage I was woohoo I had one foot in the grave man and uh I'm laying there in in my hospital room uh waiting on the the news for transplant to get a new heart and I get all these calls all of a sudden all these calls all of a sudden I was too weak to I wasn't even looking at TV you know I was I didn't want to look at I I'm trying to stay alive man I get all these call did you see it did you see it did you see it I'm like what what what what the hell what what's going on and and uh my son Samson sent me the clip of your dad talking about me in his Hall of Fame speech I'm like what the [ __ ] man hey uh bill I I don't know if I ever told you how much that meant to me I [ __ ] I was I was I was ready to try to do a sit up after I heard that I mean that that uh meant the world to me that you would take time at one of the most special moments in your story career the most probably the Hall of Fame to mention to even mention my name that was uh you know that was life altering for me I don't know if I ever told you but that I appreciated the [ __ ] out and I don't give a [ __ ] if somebody say something bad about Bill Goldberg me and Gage gonna whoop their ass and Samson yeah there yeah yeah just like I said as a fan on the outside looking in I thought that was really cool and now to know CT and consider him one of my best friends like I totally understand what you're talking about as far as him the way he motivates you and helps pulls you out of these situations cuz he did the same exact thing for me and like you said whether he knew it or not at that particular moment just the me watching his videos 13 14 years ago really and I I told this I told this on the previous show like at that particular moment I wasn't mentally ready to accept his messaging but it stuck with me and so when I got to that point in my life when I was ready I had the man right behind me didn't even know him at the time and I tell people all the time for somebody who was almost 500 PBS at one time and to have this man in my corner now has been amazing so I totally understand where you're coming from as far as him just being there and help pulling you out of these certain situations whether he knows it or not I try every day to get this man to understand how he touches not just my life but people all over the world and I've told the story we go to these conventions and just see grown men in tears telling CT how they how he saved there and pulled him out of this spot it's I I don't know if you can ever get used to something like that knowing that just you being you has made such an impression on people all over this world so it's a beautiful thing to see and to see the relationship and the way he has talked about you over the years since I've known him I know you guys have a very tight relationship so all the respect and love that you have for him it's all reciprocated right back to you he has he only speaks glowingly of you trust me when I tell you love him like a brother man there's no question about it and uh I mean so here here's a short example uh I can't remember which comeback it was but I think it was the comeback uh my 13-year Hiatus or 14 years or however long it was and I mean you you no matter who you are you have self-doubts right and being a power wrestler and retiring for a number of years over 10 years and coming back in your 50s it's a it's a daunting task uh to put it mildly and I won't get into it by any but you know being 295 and having veins popping out of my traps and then coming back and being like 250 it's a tough thing to swallow you know and I'll be perfectly honest with you I didn't I didn't know that I could do it and I've never really needed people to push me um they have throughout the years but I've never really reached out and and asked someone you know for help and and I called CT and I I remember like it was yesterday and I remember me saying you know that I didn't think I I could do it and CT's response was and he started laughing and he says you're Bill [ __ ] Goldberg [ __ ] you [Laughter] mean you're right man oh and honest to God that's all I needed yeah that was all I needed and but I'm telling you without that conversation and without that little nudge that he gave me I don't know if I could have performed the way that I performed and it takes a special person to be able to do that to me yeah I hold a very uh uh a very special place in my heart for CT and his entire family yeah I tell I tell the story all the time and um a few years ago I suffered a order disection I was in the hospital and they told me they were just like you know Michael you know with this condition you can no longer lift weights you can't do any of that stuff it be too much stress on your heart and I just remember it crushing me and I called CT I was like pops they said I can't lift weights anymore and I had just I had already lost about 160 lbs by that time I was really getting in the gym he had been training me helping me I was like they said I can't lift anymore and all he said to me was are you dead and I said no I'm not dead and he was just like well the [ __ ] up yeah shut the [ __ ] up and we going we going to you know if we got to recalibrate your plan we'll recalibrate it somebody who got the same news that you did yeah yeah and and again that coming from him if this man can still work out and he got a whole new heart in his chest there was absolutely no reason I couldn't do the same thing so so I don't do any heavy lifting I can do what I can do I do light weights a lot of volume that's all I could do according to what the doctors told me but the fact that he like I said just for him to just say are you dead that's all he had to say to me I'm like no I'm not dead and we've been three years since triggers triggers you to think yes exactly triggers you to be introspective and it and it and it heals you and it points you in the right direction all of those things can only come from a speci human being and Samson your dad is one of them and so are you yep so um you're very lucky very very very lucky you know Samson on the other he he motivates me like just watching this guy work out like I sit there and watch him sometime and I'm just in awe of the amount of weight this man can push and like I said he doesn't Samson is very quiet he doesn't say much but he's going to motivate you through his worth ethic and I honestly can sit here and say I've been around a lot of people I don't know too many people that work as hard as this this young man does right here so to have this guy in my life and to have him in my life is just you can't do anything but be motivated on a daily basis you know watching him still get in that gym doing what he can do and that's all he's ever told me he said Son all I ask you to do is do what you can do yes you're not going everybody can't come in here and bench press 5600 pounds but you can still come in here and do something and that's just been his Mantra to me this whole time so and what's so what's so important right now quite obviously more so than any other time in the world is to have good parents and have a good father figure yeah right and because all these kids aren't [ __ ] up because they're [ __ ] up from the beginning they're [ __ ] up because their parents don't Point them in the right direction their parents don't kick their ass their parents don't show them reality they baby them and they coddle them and they're entitled you know and people don't understand and they don't understand history and they don't understand respect and in a day and age like today is guys like CT and I'm just going to say it you know I don't ever Pat myself on the back but guys like me too we're we're you know we're we're a few and far between and we have to spread our our sermon to every Absol right now more importantly than than any other time so you know there and so to see Samson and the Sea gaug it warms my heart to know that there's two at least two responsible kids growing up that are be leaders in our world right absolutely I see uh you know my earliest memories of you Gage is when uh your dad would be in the ring and you know and everybody be and he call you up there and I'm like what man that's got to be a million pounds of pressure for a small kid that climbing every with I mean 50 million fans you know screaming and yelling in the arena around the world and he calls you up and man I he was I was like I was vicarious living through you Bill that time I know how [ __ ] proud you were but what was it like for you Gage in that moment I mean it was I mean there was a little bit of pressure but I mean I I feel like I handled the pressure good because I was doing my math homework uh B Lashley chokes him out in Vegas in front of 70,000 people Gage is doing his homework before he walks out I there so we first saw you in the ring in 2016 now I don't know if you've heard I'm sure you've heard this before but when we saw you again in 2021 the first thought in my head was where the hell did this little kid go that I saw in 2016 [ __ ] monster when you jumped in that ring I was like that's a grown ass like just to see where you came from in those five or six years was absolutely I didn't even recognize you absolutely I said so I got to ask when you you come back in 20121 and you do the deal with Lashley what was that like for you coming back five or six later as you're no longer a little kid a grown ass man pretty much by this point you jump in there you jump on lashley's back he throws you in the hurt like what was that experience like for you at that moment I mean it was definitely awesome it was like it was like another debut for myself like debut new version of Gage and to see the growth between 2016 and 2021 which just it was it was crazy honestly and then hopping in the ring and helping my dad out it was pretty it was that was fun too in front of all the people yep trying not to laugh so two things behind scen that you guys will greatly appreciate okay uh number one lastly when he grabbed Gage and threw him over he said that Gage was more athletic than 90% of the dudes that he works with every night can I can I say something I rewatched that clip last night just to refresh my and that's the one thing I thought when he swung you around the way you swung around and landed on your feet I'm like holy [ __ ] this kid is athletic I didn't catch it at the time when I first watched it but watching it back last night so again that's going to lead to my next question any possibility of you getting in the ring one day we see Steiner's kid in there is killing it right now you know could have a Goldberg Steiner rematch down the line one time yeah I mean it's it's definitely it's a backup plan because if football's priority right now that doesn't work out still try I'm I'm majoring in real estate at Colorado right now so we're gonna try to do call or try to do real estate and then if all else fails goldber wrestling Goldberg J okay the second part of what was so funny about the Lashley thing is that when Lashley threw him over and put him in the hurt loock and knocked him out quote unquote this son of a [ __ ] was laying on the ground laughing so I crawled over to Gage start Jing me and I start choking him with his shirt right so he would stop laughing inside information but let me ask you as a dad like was are there was there any concern like okay this is going to be his real first time stepping in the ring lashley's a Powerhouse and I'm sure lashley's a great guy all of that stuff but is was there any concern as far as him stepping in the ring and getting actually getting physical at the time no because CT and Samson I mean you guys know I wouldn't let anyone near my son in a aspect that I didn't completely trust and I love Bobby Lashley you know like a brother man he's he's a great dude and and like I said there are very few people that I would let that I would trust to do that and and I trusted him exponentially and you know Bobby knew I'd snap him if if not I mean at the end of the day yeah I mean I'm you always worry but the level of concern was way down because I trusted my my brother in there good good good uh bill now I know you on a personal level and I know that uh you occasionally use bad words and I always thought I always thought that if the wrestlers were allowed to speak like they speak when I'm talking to them off uh camera that wrestling would even be more popular I always thought curing would make wrestling even more popular than it was and when I first suggested this many years ago they you know I was talking to Stone Co oh no no no we can't but now now if you had a chance to watch wrestling lately you know that the cursing barrier has been broken and do you think that's a good thing or bad thing I personally love it but I want to know what you think coming from the person who says [ __ ] more than any other person in my life it's a weird it's a weird question to answer coming from you okay so so I mean I don't give a [ __ ] about my language around my son he's old enough to understand when to use it and when not to I mean he's a logical kid um but I can't say that for everyone else right and being Goldberg who never wanted to be a heel in wrestling man kids were my thing yeah yeah yeah yeah and when I'm talking to an adult yeah I'm good with that and it's fine and everything but it's it's just different man when you're that big baby it was like Hogan when he was in the the red and gold right I mean could you imagine him cussing at that point me I could but I mean I the wrong guy I'm want all you [ __ ] hokom maniacs take your [ __ ] vitamins right now s your prayers and EA your vitamins and say [ __ ] every now and then yeah I can see it man but uh and I can see Bill Goldberg there would have been no hul Mania in the 80s with him talking like this that's the only thing you know me dude I don't give a flying [ __ ] about anything anybody anyone's in whatever but there's a time and a place for everything and obviously National Television you can you can't say certain things at certain times right unless you're on cable or you're this or that I don't know the the laws of the land anymore but you have those things to hold up to also for for the bulk of the the audience hell yeah I think it's freaking fantastic look what we did back in the days right back in the Monday night Wars we pushed the envelope more than anybody did yeah at any time whether it be blood whether it be cussing whether it be you know the the type of content that we had pushing the envelope is always good but there's a fine line I think I I don't know maybe there should be two shows or so I I I don't know but um well you know is wrestling's predetermined a little bit and when they had me turn heel it was on uh uh hacksaw Dugen Who had who had just come back from cancer and I had a cancer patient in the back as a makeawish and it was a 10-year-old girl who was in tears when I did what I did in the ring oh man so for me to answer that question it's a it's not a yes or a no it it's tough you know you look at the betterment of the whole I don't I don't know if everybody was responsible yeah I'd say let them let your pants fly and just go for it now I know that aspect of your character was super important to you especially as a baby face and it it it when you just said that it it took me back to a clip I saw on one of the WWE documentary there was an interaction between you and Big E in the back and bigie was telling the story about how he met you back in the day and just the impression that you made on him what is that like for you knowing that these people met you 20 some OD years ago and just you being you and you being nice to them and I'm sure there were probably days where you were tired and probably didn't want to be super nice to everybody or just having a bad day but knowing that you still made that impression on somebody what's that like when these when these people come up to you and say gobert you know I just want you to know I Met You in 1996 whatever and you just the way you treated me that day really made an impression on me what's that like for you well I mean you know other than anything family oriented that's the big biggest compliment I could ever be bestowed ever it's like CT you know and and ask him what it feels like to say that you've changed people's lives um it's a it's a gift and you it has to be used um favorably um and and it's it's an honor to be able to affect one person's life let alone 10 or 50 or a thousand whatever it is man everyone is a blessing so I'm very proud of of you know I never think that I did anything right I mean that's I think what has pushed me to be as good as I can be sometimes but if anybody uh has a favorable impression of anything I did back in the past or currently man I'm I'm honored as I can be that's I mean that's right I I get that 10,000% uh I understand that you know when somebody comes up like we're at the uh event Expo or something and somebody comes up and tell me uh change their life and move man it's really hard for me to accept any type of Praise because I don't think I did anything to deserve any type of praise and I listen that you talk I I you know like you know I didn't do anything special man you know I'm just being me or and I get that but let me keep a little Praise on you any goddamn way now when you said that about curing I absolutely understand the importance of your role to those young fans and why you would you know not want to just be blasting [ __ ] every two seconds uh I get that totally but Bill Goldberg uh I wanted you know I got a ton of wrestling question but you get those all the time I want talk about Bill Goldberg a little bit as a man and uh one the inance the incident where you told me you call me and before you to come back and I would have never said that to another human human being I would never tell that because that was something between me and you but thank you for saying it I would you know that's personal uh but Bill called me up there's another since we're sharing personal [ __ ] I'm GNA share this with you guys uh bill called me up during a very tumultuous time in the American Saga and it was during the George Floyd protest I mean people I don't I know if you remember this but people were [ __ ] losing their minds and it was turning into uh uh with quite possibly race Wars and and bills called me up and he said this on Pur he calls me up so he let you know uh let people out there know what kind of person build he said hey CT we need to get together and make a video get together and make a statement showing that the world is not turned upside down there are some people who still give a [ __ ] and that look we are two different nationalities but we still love each other and it's everything is still cool and don't don't worry the the the waters will be calmed and we still you know it's no hate is not going to win this [ __ ] War Hate is not gonna win this [ __ ] so that's what Bill G Goldberg did behind the scenes nobody else [ __ ] around just between me and him so I think everybody should know that [ __ ] that's the kind of man Bill Goldberg is not just uh the superstar that you see is the [ __ ] damn good man thank you my brother I love you today for sure can I go back to that since he brought the story up you know and we're seeing all the craziness that's going on now with all the anti-semitic stuff going on in that particular moment when you reached out to CT what what were you when you were watching the news and all of this stuff what were you thinking in that moment seeing where the world where the country was going and but it's just the narrative that people push right and it doesn't mean that that's the way that it is uh 247 365 you know in in every single city and state and suburb whatever it may be it's not that's that's not what's going on yeah and I just wanted people to understand and I want CT to understand that you know man I mean there's nothing to be said we don't between he and I there's there's not 's no explanation there's no I'm like this you're like that there's it goes without saying right so at that point I just kind of wanted to make a statement right uh to say that it's it's it's not necessarily what the Press wants everybody to believe that's not the reality of what's going on that's just what people that that's that's the that's the YouTube moment that's the twitch moment that's the whatever moment to get people's attention right it doesn't necessarily mean that that's what's going on and it wasn't what was going on and you know I just wanted to reach out to my brother at that time it was a it's a tough deal this this anti-semitic thing that's on a whole another that's a whole another conversation I don't know what's going on with that but um I I gotta I gotta again stand up for what I believe in and and be the one of the biggest Jewish athletes that's ever walked North America and make sure the people understand you know where I'm coming from yeah and where we are coming from and you know you can't judge a book by its cover you can't judge an entire race or a community you know by one person and by one person's actions and you know just you gotta dig deep you gotta dig deep that's all people gotta talk people gotta look people in the eye and freaking talk that's how my mother it's it's funny my mother raised me you know she her thing was you're going to have [ __ ] that are black white every nationality they come in so judging people based solely off the color of their skin she said it's absolutely ridiculous she said because trust me it's going to be [ __ ] in every race every shape and color you're going to come across them but just because you meet somebody that may be an [ __ ] that doesn't mean everybody of that nationality that race is an [ __ ] it just means that particular person [ __ ] and you judge them you judge that person accordingly not based on you don't judge one person and judge the whole race on top of it so I I when he when he told me that story I was I was very intrigued by that story and so I'm I'm it's amazing that the two of you had that type of relationship and that statement probably would have been super powerful had it got out so yeah yeah um now I I was going to stray away from uh professional wrestling questions but [ __ ] it I got I gotta ask this one now I know uh there's some wrestlers that are bad asses in real life as they say uh I mean anytime you have a a pro wrestler going to MMA and win the [ __ ] heavyweight title that lets you know there's some real bad [ __ ] in professional wrestling any idiot would know that but uh I don't know if everybody knows uh how bad ass that Bill Goldberg is uh in real life uh I know that you have extensive martial arts training and mu Tha in particular particular uh and I heard a rumor that you were going to you were contemplating doing a real uh full-fledged m thae fight now I'm I'm asking you this now because I want to confirm the rumor uh I know you trained seriously I know you're instructor at one of them anyway so I know you're real deal and you really would whoop somebody's ass outside the ring um is this true were you really contemplating doing a a real full flages movie TI F five I was there's no question when I worked for Glory um which was one of the coolest things that I ever got to do um we were talking about it then it never came to fruition um I don't know what happened whether it was the lack of opponent at the time because it was before all this hoopla with the YouTube Jake Paul Tyson thing and before older guys like me that got out of one profession went into another um maraman and I were talking about it at one point um and Shawn and I are great friends but Sean's taken you know kickboxing for a long time and um I think it would just be fun you know I I've got some great opportunities to train with Dwayne Ludwick to train with boss to train with Ruben to train with you know uh Rico verhoven over in Amsterdam to I mean I've trained with some of the best guys in the world yeah that was that was a murderous role you just ped you know I'm 57 years old man I'm so beat I don't have to tell you I'm destroyed but it doesn't it doesn't take away from the fact that i' I'm still contemplating doing something like that I think it'd be fun you know Tyrone Spong invited me oh my God that's a good dude right there good dude Ione the freaking man dude I mean he's one to talk about a killer roow man he he should be on it absolutely I mean he's invited me down to train at their new facility down in Florida and uh I I trained with King Mo I trained with uh porier you know Simon Marcus I've had so much fun man but to answer your question it's with a person such as ourselves who always has has looked to perform on the highest level there's always questions out there if you choose one profession could you have done something else could how how good would you translate over to this so there's always curiosity out there um I was much more um I was much closer to actually doing it like five years ago whether I could still do it now I don't know I gotta go down and get some stem cell treatment down in Colombia hey hey I can tell you about them stem cells man that's that's be our next our our next thing that we talk about because I want your advice on I guess You' you've gotten done got two got two treatments uh before the treatments I would go to the gym and because you know uh and just watch my son famous son watch Michael and his wife uh Kim and you know train I was basically just their trainers and I would be there I wanted I wanted to do something but I just had no [ __ ] energy I'm taking 15 different medications every day and it just Zapped the [ __ ] out of me but I'm still in the [ __ ] gy looking [ __ ] oh that's probably not politically correct but I was you know looking stupid and uh and watching you know just watching them I got the the stem cell treatments to and after the stem cell I've been in the gym [ __ ] every since ever since they've been able to work out so [ __ ] yeah I recommend them highly how long ago did you do it uh how long has it been you got the first dose it a even been a year yet no it's not been a year Haven probably about eight months ago and then you got the treat the second treatment about six seven weeks after that yeah so it's been two two uh two treatments and yeah I don't know if I'll ever get any more but because all I wanted was just a little spark just to get you know if I can get a little spark enough energy to to curl I'm I'm G take my ass to the gym I'm be doing something man my question to you was going to be was there any issue with your transplant and getting stem cells or was is that I mean not and that's a damn good question because uh you know my wife was like you never asked yeah no no my wife asked the same question and and and she said well what are your doctors gonna say I said the [ __ ] ain't gonna know I ain't telling them [ __ ] got answer my question yeah V sell biologics call me Integrated Pain manager we call me up and they say hey C we give you a a stem treatments I said hey when when and where and I'll [ __ ] be there I didn't tell them [ __ ] you cuz I knew that they were going to have a ton of [ __ ] questions and might even say that I couldn't do it now [ __ ] that I was gonna do it and yeah GL I did I never consulted with him yeah it's amazing just to see where he was a year ago to see where he is now night and day night and day and I've heard so many other wrestlers talk about the stem cells and just say how it's got them feeling like they were in their 20s again so I don't know the ins and outs of them that well but clearly they w't all I can say is I haven't heard one bad experience I really haven't and we're talking MMA guys we're talking ex wrestlers we're talking X NFL guys we're talking powerlifters arm wrestlers you know whether it's Chuck Liddell or you know Don fry all these guys who absolutely destroy destroyed their bodies and have been able to find favorable results man I'm just so thankful for them you know because I mean like me I don't I can handle it I mean it I'm not that much pain right I mean my shoulder's completely destroyed and I have no rotator cuff anymore but um it I mean I can still do something but it would really be nice to kick up to a Next Level get some regenerative stuff going on instead of me continue destroy it so I got another wrestling question for you so CT brought up that you training MMA so what a lot of people may not know is CT was actually training to be a professional wrestler back in the day so I'mma ask you had CT become a professional wrestler do you think he would have would he have gotten over as they say in the world of professional wrestling he he stepped in and played Mr T on this movie that I was doing and it was like second nature to him I have clip of that Mo I was going to play it but I didn't want to embarrass you guys too bad today no just don't play and I were fighting in the in the the what was it it was a car wash and looks like he's trying to hump me I didn't know film oh my God Gage did you watch that movie no know nothing about that movie nothing freaking what was that guy's name that was in it the the the the the porno dude oh man they had look they had uh everybody yeah I mean but they had some tremendous fighters in that [ __ ] I mean it was the Who's Who uh don fry like you mentioned in uh the pred this guy he's a he had some topnotch badass dudes for real in this [ __ ] up movie that was the most [ __ ] up thing I've ever I don't know what I don't know how they got I don't know what the hell was going on I really don't what was that the the the first women's kickboxing champion yeah yeah yeah daughter was in it yep uh tiny Jeremy that's exactly that's what I said yeah Don fry porno movie and we didn't even know about yeah I go what the [ __ ] man I had never heard of this movie and then uh one of my guys on Instagram Justin Harrison he said hey I'mma send you this clip he sends me the clip and I'm like what in the [ __ ] is this [Music] [ __ ] oh man CRA I'm so proud I was able to get you in that CT oh my God that was absolutely hilarious what what is the name of the movie some golden golden fist golden fist oh the fist the golden fist or some [ __ ] golden sh so all the listeners I don't know where you can find this first time I've seen you smile hey don't [ __ ] uh don't rent that [ __ ] don't rent it it's I'm sure you can find it somewhere free or in a in a in a bin at the Goodwill or something right now I have burned I've tried to burn every copy that was Blockbuster believe me not on the open market anymore I had to you know I put a little you know something on I said look this the worst [ __ ] movie I ever because I seen they post posted something on Instagram but I said it's the worst [ __ ] movie you know ever in history and the guy but the best cast yeah and the producer I mean the dude who made the was starting in it the guy the guy stared he goes uh he goes hey man CT it wasn't that bad it was horrible Gage Gage you have to go find this movie Gage you gotta go find it you gotta watch this movie find the mov so a friend of mine a high school friend of mine I don't know if you remember this CT but a high school friend of mine came in town because he he was in LA for a couple days and he had just flown in so he came from the airport to set and I did the same thing to the director that I did when I asked him about you I said my buddy just got here has never been in a movie can he be in the background he's like would he mind would do you mind playing a gay Car Wash attendant no find it all matter of fact he'd want that yeah I got both my buddies in this movie that was classic oh my god oh man it was yeah ain't no explanation for that [ __ ] they don't have a a rating low enough for that [ __ ] all I can tell you is it was one hell of a story oh yeah that's that's the damn story one damn the stupidest story line in history that's I had that fight scene with the dude who fought uh uh van Dam in or no Chuck Norris in uh Enter the Dragon yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I can't remember the kid's name but anyway yeah it was Chuck Zito was in it yeah absolutely I mean there a whole bunch of [ __ ] bad real life bad guys in that [ __ ] and it [ __ ] stunk I don't know how we got corded into doing that I know how I got my buddy called me up he C you want to be in the [ __ ] movie and I'm like hell yeah anything Bill goldber oh so it's your fault Goldberg okay so it's your fault 100% that's like when I told Wanda we were going to the Caribbean to to do to take wrestling there for the first time and we got on the plane and we landed in [Music] Guyana wow kind of a bait and switch thing yeah big time [ __ ] come and play in this movie it's great yeah all right bill I got another question for you so there was a video and I'm I I couldn't find it but I ran across it on YouTube but and I don't know if this was it B it was a video of you and and and Coach Prime and you guys were talking about your relationship and how tight you had got how tight you guys had got back on the Falcons can you explain to me what makes that what makes that relationship between you and Coach Prime so special and what was the Genesis of that that's that's very simple and I'm going to tell you in a very short story and it will it will be it's a very short story but it will be as descriptive as you need and it will tell you more than you'll ever need I was I was on the developmental Squad when Di and I Dion and I met okay the developmental Squad is like a walk-on like my son is in Colorado you got to do everything right you got to pick up [ __ ] you gotta kiss you got to do any take every rep you got to do whatever you could do just because every day when your phone rings you think that they're gonna cut you yeah right so you got to be that guy I was that guy who did everything but I didn't get to suit up and go to a lot of games right I didn't travel a lot my first year there right um Dion was making I don't know we got paid every F every other Friday he was probably making $2 million every every other week what would Dion what would I have for Dion that would make him want something for me to befriend me other than the fact that we're we're kind of the same individual we think a lot alike in a lot of different ways we have the same mentality we we try to be this responsible father and a public figure and that's the best way I can explain it he was he was the freaking he was Prime Time y he was he at the top level of his game he was the dude and I was a walk-on on the Falcons why were we hanging out if he wasn't just a good dude yeah you know so that's the best way I can explain it I mean uh I carried his bags he'll he'll never admit it but I mean when he needed somebody to do something man I was there and I didn't do it because uh I owed him anything I didn't do it I did it because he needed it he was busy he needed help man you know I mean he provided he treated me with so much respect Jay Leno right one of the best pieces of advice I ever heard I'm sitting in the back of my my grandmother's 62 Thunderbird and my with my brother and he asked me about somebody in LA and I told him about how they treated me and he goes well how the hell do you think they're going to treat you you're freaking 300 pounds you squished their head two seconds and he goes I treat people the way they treat their weight staff yeah I was the weight staff absolutely wow I'm glad you mentioned uh the car thing because time is getting short and I know you guys got to go you're super busy and I really appreciate both of you being here um is Gage in line what first of all Gage how do you feel about classic cars and is gagee but for you Bill is Gage in line to uh inherit all of those Treasures that you have collected Gage how do you think feel about classic cars I mean I like classic cars I like classic cars and all it's just like new newer cars definitely more sure fan I think you feel about the same way I mean if you I like old school cars though I know he likes old school cars but if you had if you had your choice uh between the a classic and the number one carard you can only have one which one would you pick the more reliable one Well here here's a way to answer that question I gave Gage a 68 GTX that hard top in the back yeah for his 16th birthday 16 oh my God he didn't want it oh my God Drive yeah an actual he could have driven that one I got a I got a new Ford Bronco lifted it put light bars on it kids man you know they appreciate what's shoved in their face and and what's cool right for the moment one of these days you'll appreciate all this old stuff all right and yet he's in line to inherit every one of them all right I like that what's your what's your favorite Bill what's your favorite the Boss 429 law man or what what's your favorite I mean you gotta be specific like if I had to just pick one yeah just one yeah the law man hands down not not just because of how cool a car it is but what it's what it means to you know me and what it what is done in the military I mean over 300,000 servicemen saw the car in the early 70s over in Vietnam and um it's got serial number 429 yeah it it's got 800 miles on the car W um the thing is I mean it's one of two automatic boss 429s that were ever built and the first one was destroyed so it's the only one left and uh it's in his name you know I mean it's a it's it's a piece of I love that thing yeah it's [ __ ] out out of all those badass Mopars you got and I would say I'm more of a Mopar guy than a Ford guy I still would place the boss yeah the law man up there at the top man [ __ ] yeah I mean it's sitting right across from that that Hemy charger which is my f other Thana Hemi um but it's just it's it's not a regular Boss 429 it's just what it means you know and what it stood for I mean I'm really proud of that car so even it's a Ford I love it all right so we didn't do a lot of wrestling questions but I i' I'd be I I got to ask so the big talking wrestling circles now is this whole the death of WCW that's uh series that's going on it's been over 23 years since WCW went out of business and I got to ask you for somebody who was there to see all of this after 23 years do you ever get tired of talking about who killed WCW whose fault it is or anything like that because that seems to be the big talk and everybody's blaming everybody this guy's mad at this guy for somebody that was there and and was there at the end of it like what's your perspective on WCW and if anybody was actually at fault cuz from the outside looking in it just seems like it was just a collective thing I don't I I wasn't there but it doesn't seem like it was you can blame it on solely on one person it was just a big it could be blamed on one person it would be Ted Turner or it would be the merger between Time Warner and a TNT or whatever it was at the time but I don't think either one of those were the case Ted Turner absolutely loved wrestling it's what made him as a network who he was right um and from what I understood he was out of the country when the decision was made I think it had a lot to do with the merger um I don't I mean Vince Russo uh I mean he was just he was part of it at the time I mean we all have our opinions about him and about the timing and it was a [ __ ] storm that just all this stuff happened at the same time and for me me I was on the outside looking in because even though it was my company and I'm a part of it uh I was still new in the wrestling world and I I'm I'm learning every day I mean I I must I made I might have played the NFL but I was a puppy and I was a freshman in the wrestling world and so I was just trying to learn and I I I mean it was a wild deal I mean I was sitting at home the last six months of it um I remember watching the last WCW from Panama City I guess it was and um it was a it was a strange deal it was really strange but again I the whole wrestling business was strange it it was like the wrestling business was just acting out in real life what's your perspective of wrestling now because I I I remember maybe a month or so ago you made a little I I remember in a couple of wrestling groups that I'm in there was I guess talk of you talking to Tony Khan and aw and I guess you you made a comment about aw wrestling that some of the wrestling fans had a little got a little upset or I can't remember exact what you called it but anyway the aw fans yeah the yeah the aw fans didn't like that too much so what's your what what do you think of the current state of professional wrestling I wouldn't I I wouldn't like it either if I was an a fan because I'd be pissed off that the product wasn't better I'd be perfect honest with you I don't watch wrestling um wrestling doesn't have the characters that it used to have back in the day everybody was that guy yeah you didn't have to teach a guy or or you know teach a guy to be a certain character he just walked in and he was that guy that's why people had such conviction when they were acting out because they were doing nothing but uh multiplying their own personality I did um you know the thing about W is that you know I didn't ever have the appreciation of Independence right because I I was never a territorial guy because I the territories were going away by the time that I made it to where I made it yeah and I didn't understand that world and I didn't understand that it was the building block of the the the TR the the live shows right you have to make an impact in the place before you can come in and put on the Big H hoop hoop block right um aew is nothing but nothing but Indie wrestling um I'm not saying that about the wrestlers that well I am partially the wrestlers themselves Kevin Nash said it a couple weeks ago go freaking work out you know um I'm just saying man I mean have a mirror have have more respect for yourself um before you go out and perform I I don't know there's a lot of issues with it yeah um I just don't believe it's not the production level by any stretch of imagination that it should be to be a competitor to WWE yeah the WWE can't Prosper properly unless they have a viable competitor and I don't believe aw is a viable competitor um and I'm probably gonna catch a bunch of [ __ ] from this but I don't care because I don't read it and I don't care what they think it's interesting as a fan Prof wrestling everybody's got an opinion right I grew up a fan of professional wrestling and my favorite wrestler of all time has always been Ron Simmons because that was to me as a kid watching watching Ron Simmons that was a man that that was a he didn't say a whole lot but that was a man and so when I hear you and Kevin Ash talk about some of these newer wrestlers and how you know they need to work out or they're kind of small again as a fan that's the same thing when I watch it I'm like God these guys are really small and trying to make it believable especially when you got a 5 foot6 guy beating a 6'6 guy with 300 lb it's it's how can Will Osprey beat a a 300 pound dude with his hands in his pockets I mean come on man I mean you you want to be entertaining and you want to be comical but you you got to have a little bit of realism yeah and that was the thing it was you know it's I you know again like I said I'll bring up Ron Simmons watching Ron Simmons in the ring I to totally thought Ron Simmons could beat this guy up or Goldberg could kill this guy it was you know now we could well that that is true that is true and one of one of my Idols was Ron Simmons what what did I say I was inherently I'm a defensive lineman Ron Simmons was one of the baddest D lineman in the history of college football he used to rip dude's heads off Y and I used to watch him playing football and to know that I got to work with him you know in the world of professional wrestling that's freaking awesome that's like having Kevin green is my roommate when I'm a rookie at the at the Rams and then 10 years later he he's my my partner wrestling I mean those are some really cool deals he's an idol of mine he was yeah you know and Ron Simmons Ron knows how much how much I Revere him and how much I look up to him you know he and Ming are the same same people to me yeah those guys those two guys when people i' I've you know I watched these interviews those two guys when they talk about who are the scariest or the toughest individuals you hear Ming you hear Ron Simmons Harley Race people like that but it's a a select few Bill Goldberg Bill well of course Bill Goldberg my guy was Bruiser Brody oh yeah yeah you're not old enough to remember dict Bruiser are you Bill oh yeah hell yeah yeah right yes sir pops you got got anything yeah yeah I just wanted to make sure before we get out of here to thank Gage uh so much for being I asked your dad to have you on because I I want I relate to you so much because my son is coming along trying to do and be an athlete and you're and I know the pressure amount of pressure that it is upon you just for having Goldberg as your last name and I want to thank you so much I'm super proud of you all nobody's your dad's number one fan I'm number two thank you so I don't know if Colorado if you guys are playing you guys playing USC this year are you guys going to be here in Southern California if so we gotta come check you out we gotta come check you out anytime you guys want to go we'll get you some tickets you just let us know yes sir sounds good to me anything on your hand Pops I Just Want to Thank A that's it I'm good uh Bill thank you so much for you know it's another was another one of those moments one those Goldberg moments that I'll never forget thank you so much for being when we decided to do this show we were talking about Guest the first name out of his mouth was Bill Goldberg he was like I'll ask Bill the CT the thing I love about CT he's super humble he was just like you know he he he never wants to give anybody an impression that he's trying to use his relationship with you to get you to do something he was like you know I'll reach out but you know I don't know what he's going to say and you know and he was like but you know I'll reach out and when he told me you he was like we got Goldberg so to know well after to me for about 20 minutes you can tell why CT and I are so close yeah you guys are pretty much the same person same person pretty much the same person so on that note we want to thank you Bill we want to thank you Gage for being on the the CT Fletcher presents the [ __ ] y'all podcast I I way to not on that for I asked him about the show two two years ago and he was just like no son he was like everybody's got a podcast so about 6 months ago we came up again I was like well pops if we do the show where we going to name it [ __ ] y'all and I'm like I don't know if we can call it the [ __ ] y'all pot he was like nope it's the [ __ ] y'all pot I was like all right pops that's your favorite words we gonna go with the [ __ ] y'all podcast so again we we thank you both for being on the [ __ ] y'all podcast we cannot thank you enough Gage Bill thank you thank you thank you thank you very much for having us to meet you and and uh uh CT and Samson man you know yeah we don't see each other Enough by any stretch of imagination but if we have to see each other like this that's better than nothing absolutely and uh we just we you know we admire you two from afar you set an example for us every day whether it's CT for me or Samson for Gage um just keep being y' you know just keep being y we love you to death and hopefully we get to see you soon all right love you guys all right thank you and that is the third edition of the [ __ ] there there you go Bill there you I'mma cut that clip right [ __ ] y'all yeah that's the clip I'mma post that clip right there thank you guys so much and we will hopefully see you guys very soon yes sir y'll be well have a great day happy 4th of July yeah happy 4th of July DT don't blow yourself up I ain't making no promises I know I know I love you y'all be good yes sir see Bill thanks all right ladies and gentlemen before we get out of here you know we got to plug the merchandise www. ironaddict brands.com is where you can get all your official CT Fletcher merchandise somebody's got to be the baddest [ __ ] average [ __ ] excuses and isymfs if you don't get it from the from the website it's a fake and we don't want you to be walking around in fake ass CT Fletcher merchandise so most important thing [ __ ] you yeah so anybody selling fake [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] you also one last thing I want to pay all kind of love and respect to the man that helped put this podcast together Mr Solomon at the podcast house here in Long Beach podcast place but thank podcast place my apologies my apologies podcast place here in Long Beach this is where we film this show and Solomon's the man Solomon is the man so if you appreciate that thank if you are in Southern California and you are looking for a professional beautiful great customer service somewhere great you can film your podcast it'll be right here at the podcast place here in Long Beach look it up check out Mr Solomon he'll take care of you he has done wonderful wonderful work for us so all the respect and love goes to this guy because when you guys tell us how great the show looks it's because of this gentleman over here so podcast place we appreciate you thank you for having us and the way we end every show [ __ ] y'all hey thanks for checking out the podcast she hit that like button subscribe and click that Bell so you know what new videos Drop Ward War in today's show is available on iony brand.com