The Gus Johnson Allegations Were Very Dumb

does anyone else find it weird that this whole experience is Sabrina just sharing her truth it is about her sharing her experiences it is not about spiting any individual yet whenever Gus failed her during these events no matter how minor she'll emphasize what he did she'll allude to more things happening but not actually talk about it she'll fixate on it and make sure you know exactly how wrong it is and how much it hurt her she reminds me of Ana honestly aene Sabrina is not a victim she's a victim of an ectopic pregnancy which sucks but that's not Gus's fault she's not a victim of him and never needed to be made public and frankly she deserved her Channel dying as a result of what she did so Nick is not green someone we haven't talked about in a while he posted a new video first video he's posted on YouTube in months I believe and it's like um it's like a new apology video talking about what happened now you guys know I went pretty hard on Nick back when the drama happened but you know when he did Apologize despite the fact that a lot of people wanted me to hold it against him for forever I believed it was a real apology and he thought he did something wrong he was owning up to it and he's posted a new video talking about this he's kind of copying my swag here it looks like but whatever uh we're going to watch the video and maybe he's maybe he has something good to say maybe he's being honest and bass actually I made YouTube videos fulltime for about 3 years it was something that I feel like came very naturally to me and I loved doing it for a really long time and it was basically my identity for a big chunk of My Life um in the past six months I have for the first time completely stopped making videos he actually has right I don't think there's been a new Nick is not green video in a long he's got like five channels but let's see here yeah three months he hasn't posted a video on the Nick is not green Channel what about green is not Nick hasn't post a video there in four months no new videos in four months on this channel uh one of the last videos he posted was I make harmful content that needs to change how did his audience take this video my favorite apology videos are from the YouTubers who make videos making fun of apology videos it's like apology reception Nick try not to delete his apology video challenge I feel like you learned a lot from your last three apologies whenever you need to take your next apology it will be even better or make your next he did make a new one in fairness I think he he does seem to be changing his behavior he seems to really regret the way things went so you know I think he actually realizes heed up I think he does like I I actually you know I think he does feel bad for what he did I mean he's basically given up his income for a few months for it right he feels like he wasn't good at making commentary videos and he was a negative influence on the platform I think it's I think it's a real apology man I've been spending the last few months trying to figure out how to go back into doing this in a way that's comfortable for me and so this video is kind of a way for me to explain where I'm at what my future plans are for YouTube and it is also sort of another attempt for me to overcome something that I'm really struggling with last year I made some really bad mistakes with my platform I was uh criticized a lot and I was under a lot of public scrutiny for it and even though a lot of problem s that I had with the platform were pre-existing before this controversy this is what kind of caused me to finally I guess face the unhealthy relationship that I had with my job I was to be clear I think um what's his name is his name Jimmy Jimmy Rob Robinson okay Jimmy Robbins he made a great video about Nick someone Nick doesn't like he's made a bunch of them but he made a particularly great segment in here about um Gus Johnson i' would like to control F for that Gus John and like the allegations that abalina Sabrina made I have dealt with months of hate following my coverage on stories like sneo or Gus Johnson both situations where I was harassed endlessly for uplifting the voices of harassed endlessly for uplifting the voices I'm not trying to on Nick in this video too much because if he is apologizing I and I I feel like it is a real apology I actually don't I don't want to on him endlessly but I think it is important to take into account the reason why he's apologizing right cuz his videos were bad for a while he was making a lot of false allegations he was having a lot of conflicts of interest he just got caught big time with a super mega one right cuz they actually defended themselves and went after him a little bit victims who are attacked just like this except that all goes out the window the second he starts losing subscribers what do I mean recently Ryan from super mega I want to see the Gus Johnson part in particular because there's a segment of this video that goes over it wait I swear there's more in here he found in his coverage of the controversies involving super mega and Gus Johnson and while I previously covered both of these situations ations links below I want to talk about his lies in more specific detail because Nick will insist that anyone who criticizes his involvement in these situations or even has the nerve to disagree with him fall under the category of being bigoted freaks redded debate Bros or are otherwise negligible that's all True by the way I am a bigoted freak and I am a Reddit debate bro I love Reddit I love bigotry and that perfectly describes who I am so I think that that was a I I wasn't even mad about that that was true chat understands where their opinion does not count there's too many Reddit debate bro dorks on this website trying to come The Audacity Of I feel bad even on him right now for this but the audacity The Audacity Of of someone who looks like this calling other people dorks and Reddit debate Bros is insane you look like you're the CEO of reddit.com listen to a band called Factory 81 uh no come after me every single day so much of the criticism I have received from making these videos has been from people who never took the time to watch any of the videos I made about the situation and it becomes increasingly more obvious that they took the word of people deflecting from the truth rather than actually watching all of the videos involved that that's just not true that is the definition of attacking someone in bad faith now Nick also likes to lie by Omission leaving out information that reflects poorly on him or his friends see at one point Gus says this when one person right after a breakup really just smears you like this now this was in reference to Gus's ex encouraging ing speculation with vague and inflammatory posts while liking dozens of tweets Gus Johnson went about his life like this didn't affect him in any way it was a private matter but to keep blank suppressed from even her family knowing about things just shows how much of an emotional and mental hold he had on her where with you Sabrina that change and contradict her original story as well as posting a tweet the day Gus canceled his tour that seemed to gloat about how spiteful do you have to be a tweet like this bro that Showbiz baby has abalina Sabrina has she had Channel traction since that her Channel's dead oh my God nobody cares nobody cares so be clear what did what is she accus Gus Johnson of she accused him of what did she okay here we go allegations explained by Newsweek abini Sabrina and Gus Johnson are YouTubers blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah in her video Rio spoke about how she suffered an ectopic pregnancy which became so bad one of her Fallopian tubes ruptured during this time she spoke up needing to go to the doctor she knew something was wrong but her partner the time said he wanted to go out and have drinks for work later she discussed how she tried to bottle up her feelings and present pretend she was okay but uh would occasionally rely on him for R to the hospital during these time she claimed he told her that anyone else would have left you by now and described how he found her illness to be a strain on his life the thing is even if he did do that I don't think that needed to be made public at all like he's just he was just a boyfriend or husband whatever he was to you right do this really need to be made public he wasn't there when she had a miscarriage gotcha now Nick responds to this with the following besides the fact that doesn't use Gus's name throughout her original video and her relationship with him was only a small but NE but like people are going to find out the name right like if I make a big allegation video and I'm like my last partner I'm not going to say their name and like I had a very public relationship it's going to be obvious who I'm talking about and like it's like so obvious and like obviously she was okay with people knowing because she was liking and you know tweeting stuff in reference to him vaguely and then eventually she confirmed it so like she doesn't really have that defense does she necessary part of the video which yet is 100% true she did not use Gus's name in her original video however Nick conveniently leaves out that Gus's ex publicly confirmed she was talking about him within 6 hours on both Twitter and YouTube not to mention the dozens of tweets she liked that referred to him by name now that's not a great look when you're accused of launching a smear campaign so Nick just decides that Gus's ex only liked tweets that echoed her original video but somehow at the same same time it's okay that she endorsed false accusations and harassment Gus does get it yeah because she's in the right and he knows her so she's in the right upset that liked tweets that made him look bad but they all echoed ideas that she this is the main problem like his conflict of interest a conflict of interest is not necessarily the worst thing ever right like if you make a video about someone and like your friend is like a victim of them you can make that video but it should be a red flag to question that person's coverage and be like is that actually inaccurate and if their coverage is inaccurate then you can call them out and the conflict of interest can obviously be a clear indicator like they lied about this they said this probably because this person told them to or they weren't looking or they weren't looking as critically at it because they were friends with someone involved you get what I'm saying already confirmed in her video These weren't news statements that she was co-signing but support that she was receiving for a story that was hard for her to tell Gus also never specifically States what liked or retweeted and how it made him look bad it was just another vague shot that he took at her to make her seem emotional and illogical how do you know that how do you know that that's what happened you saw that line Tom true how do you know that's what happened like how do you 1,00% know that he also makes the bizarre claim that created memes I don't know exactly what he's talking about here because again he doesn't specify but I assume that he is talking about the one picture of a Pokemon card that a put on her story for someone who works professionally in comedy I don't know what his idea of a meme is for the record much of the public including myself only learned that she was talking about Gus Nick's brother has 100K Subs on YouTube does he I think he had a Channel with his brother right is it he said us it's the Channel that I was watching his apology on right this was was this the Channel with his brother I could be wrong why does he have so many channels he's not green brother Austin Green oh this guy 100K Subs the Clinton Kane Tik Tok drama is insane today we're going over all of the drama surrounding the musician Clinton Kane and how the singer songwriter was exposed by his former ex-girlfriend in a 14-part Tik Tok series I mean it seems like it's very similar to uh it seems like it's extremely similar to what Nick did does he verify sources here I'm not going to assume that it's bad just cuz he's his brother but you know I would like to know I would definitely like to know because of a notification on the Twitter homepage one that showed her either liking a thread that proved it was him or one of the dozens of tweets attacking him by name as well as her confirming it within the comments of her video not to mention that people use the tweet she liked as confirmation of various false accusations and this exact behavior is a large part of why there are so many misconceptions concerning Gus to this day all about events that now happened five years ago all right so this is Eddie burbach uh it says Eddie burck discusses the situation with Gus Johnson one last time I'm pretty sure they used to collab a lot they used to be good buddies and and final no they're not it's off topic with thoughts on Boogie hatred for Jackson Clark Jackson Clark he hates Jackson because Jackson years ago said that he thought Boogie fake cancer right I assume that's the reason I like Jackson Clark I think he's a cool dude so that's probably why he hates him though right thing is Boogie ha boogie claims to hate everyone who talks him and then when he meets them he'll like make a false accusation about them and then when they prove him wrong he'll apologize to them and say they're a cool guy and say they're actually cool like Boogie has gone back and forth multiple times publicly between like I'm actually like me like saying I'm actually a cool guy does his due diligence and isn't like a commentary channel to then like all of a sudden I'm like a bad guy again so I don't know he's like a delusional liar however um before we do it uh I've I hate doing this uh I would like to very very quickly for the last and final time just kind of be clear about uh you know everything that happened if that's cool uh I'm sure we're all pretty exhausted by it by now um and normally I wouldn't want to talk about this stuff but I feel like if I don't I'm going to be asked about it for years uh so I just want to be really clear with you guys because I saw some confusion uh God it even sucks to say uh I mean I'm I saw you guys pretty much all assuming it like the podcast is not coming back um I don't want to get into private details too much because I that makes me uncomfortable um but if I'm being honest with you like trust between us from me is completely broken and I just can't work with him in the future I mean that's fair he's not obligated to work with him you know I don't think there's anything wrong with him not wanting to be friends with Gus anymore regardless of if it needed to be regardless of if it needed to be made public like I don't know honestly this is extremely mature boys don't let boys mistreat people LOL boys don't let boys mistreat people um but regardless of that I I will defend the general sentiment unless he contributed to the false allegations or something whatever they may be um I don't really think it's his like obligation to work with Gus anymore he doesn't have to right I don't really care if he wants if he's like a good friend to him or not I don't really give a Eddie bird Eddie birdbath is cringe I don't really know anything about him I know uh he made a video about like Margaritaville or something and I watched some of it and I was like that's all right not really my thing though thank you box head for becoming a member glad to catch a stream my fiance and I get excited to see a new video you put up also I still love the Frank versus Boogie situation it's pretty funny I even hate having to say it but most people understood some people didn't um some people are still asking or maybe you just don't know because you it's hard to all this stuff if it's not posted directly where the content is um so I I don't know that's really all I I want to say about it uh he knows so he basically just said nothing okay basically said nothing oh but all of that makes his friend look bad so Nick just leaves it out or decides it doesn't count sounds familiar right he also has a habit of stating yeah this is the huge problem with Nick right the biggest problem is like it's kind of the same thing that the quartering does on the other side whereas the quartering will like endlessly defend Dr disrespect because doc doesn't like trans people or something or Nick is Nick MKS doesn't like trans people he'll defend him because of that because of like culture War reasons Nick will defend the victim in every situation either because he's their friend or because he wants the person in question to be guilty right I mean this is the same thing with like Ethan's online like going after Alex Rosen like there are things you can criticize Alex Rosen for but the reason Ethan did it and the majority of his video criticizing Alex is because he's a conservative not because of anything else thank you Isaac for becoming a member what's up aeto people's intentions as fact as if he can read minds again carrying himself as if he has insid or knowledge despite that being simply false in fact this habit was the basis of Nick repeatedly accusing super mega of covering up an assault to over a million people but as it relates to Gus when responding to Gus's ex seemingly gloating about him having to cancel his tour Nick a good fella not Nick is not green Nick says this not only does this in so many of Gus's complaints boil down to oh man she was being so mean to me but the Tweet had nothing to do with the tour just States it as fact like it's not a like how do you know that how do you know had nothing to do with a tour cuz Sabrina told you are you supposed to just believe her always of a coincidence that someone with a proven Vendetta tweeted that show biz right after Gus announced that he was canceling his tour and to give you an idea of how full of it Nick really is he goes from lambasting Gus for assuming that TW was about him to quite literally in his very next sentence heavily insinuating that a random sketch from Gus is a shot at his ex and it's ridiculous to monitor what she's doing and assume that everything is about you even if it is extremely vague after Gus took a break from YouTube his first video back was a sketch about a kid who was being overly dramatic about a medical condition and needed an ice pack it came off as extremely toned deaf and as if it was a direct shot no way he said that no way wait this is like a this is like in Praise of Shadow's delusion where like wendon follows him and he's like what other reason could there be for wendon to follow me other than to mock me for my fans calling me the for his fans calling me the effler right it's like the same pure delusion thank you legman for the dollar like it's it's it's it it's just made up in his mind he came up with it it's like it's like a boogie ISM because his unbiased coverage is little more than fanfiction Nick will often contradict himself for example Nick repeatedly states that when someone comes forth with accusations they're often attacked and chased off the internet and everyone knows how these YouTube cancellations end the canceled Creator remains financially comfortable while the victim is bullied by the creators I feel like that's not usually the case I mean sometimes that happens but I feel like that's not usually the case at all like there's very few like sometimes that will happen a little bit but generally if the evidence is there the person in question is going to be called out and their career is going to be on and over right if they actually are assaulter right like I I feel like in in general things work themselves out pretty well remaining fans until they leave the internet no objection so far but whenever Gus doesn't describe something in vivid enough detail for him Nick just decides that it's because he's trying to cover something up but when he has the opportunity to be open and honest about what he did he refuses to be specific because he knows he can't get away with the horrific how do you even know what he did though you weren't there did Sabrina provide any proof or did she just say it happened Pi things he said or did when and it's just as likely that Gus was being vague because of the very issues Nick described but it's more convenient if his friend is perfect and Gus is evil so Nick will State uh greetings from dger thanks for the content you're the best Orbiter thank you for the Dono hello I graduated high school couple months going wrote your name on the UND side of my grad cap well good luck with uh College anything supporting that narrative as fact just like with super mega now between this and the super mega situation notice how Nick's language very suddenly rewrites events that he wasn't even present for and most of these lies aren't even what is the is Jimmy Robin supposed to have video about Gus Johnson right Gus Johnson allegations unfortunately I think Gus Johnson was a part of the Emily BLM Community okay explaining the Gus Johnson allegations in two or situation in two minutes okay content warning Gus Johnson is a comedian and YouTuber who was very well-liked for being creative and seen as a really nice guy that is until it turned out that he was emotional this is the problem can't be seen as a super nice guy cuz nobody is just a nice guy okay everybody is a mixed bag they have nice moments they have mean moments they have things that regret they have things that they're proud of you don't want to be in this sphere where you're just seen as like a nice wholesome guy because the second that somebody finds out you jaywalks your career's over that is until it turned out that he was emotionally abused what do you mean it turned out was that was that proven to his ex-girlfriend abalina Sabrina who is also a YouTuber she talks about her experiences with ectopic pregnancy which is a type of PR pregnancy wherein the egg is implanted outside of the uterus thus making it impossible to birth in an extremely painful and even life-threatening situation for the no eggs carrier in her video she talks about how her then boyfriend later confirmed to be Gus Johnson not only harassed her and pressured her to have an abortion because of how it would affect his career but also negated her health needs to go out did Gus admit to all of this have drinks with friends and suggested often that she was exaggerating her pain first when it comes to apologies abalina did not accept his apology and if she didn't accept it the person that matters was his was his apology like admitting to everything the fact that his boy Eddie bail on him speaks volumes to me doesn't necessarily though like just because somebody walks away who also has a very like forward- facing PC image just cuz he walks away from his friend does that really mean that the guy's evil is all of this first of all proven and secondly the question is do we even need to know this then why would anyone else feel it's sufficient second he also owes his viewers an apology at least for the fact that he seemed like a person who stood against abusers of women and then turned out to be one which which is a huge betrayal to his audience three that skit he posted after the dislike button disappeared either shows that he's so so ignorant or is just very much Unapologetic or I mean maybe the skit just has nothing to do with it do you think that's possible bro Elliot sang Mr Sing do you think it's possible that like the skit had nothing to do with it he was just making a funny skit hasn't reformed and is actually still making fun of her four he's blocking people who even gently criticize him on Twitter five it's very unlikely that abalina is using the situation I mean just because he blocks himone on Twitter doesn't mean you did it right maybe he just doesn't want to deal with the emotional distress of that his cancellation was bogus everyone dropped him instantly cuz he was a bad boyfriend in one relationship is crime as being emotionally immature well I'm curious if we can verify that here to stir drama and to get clout doing this puts abalina in such a vulnerable position and her doing so shows a lot of Courage not wow some sort of desire for clout but even if she is using it to stir drama what Gus has done and has not denied so he's done is much worse six yes people can grow and change but they have to hold themselves accountable and Gus has not shown any indication of that lastly parasocial relationships can be very cool when the subject of the relationship has a very healthy and non-toxic and honest relationship with the viewers but when somebody is dishonest and when somebody is toxic that's when you see the worst of okay whatever proof she lied the G Johns an interview that changed everything I believe Sabrina in weaponized trauma all right well this is two years ago this is one year ago so I think this is the one to look at first this definitely seems like the one to look okay wait there's another video apparently Jimmy Robbins Gus John son all right abuse Revenge both so it looks like this is the first video and then there's this one and then there's the interview we'll start start with this one cuz it looks like it is a quick recap so for a bit of a refresher Sabrina has uploaded a video now titled my pregnancy in this video she outlines Troublesome things done by an exp what are your thoughts on President Biden referring to the president of Ukraine as President Putin and calling his VP VP Trump I think he's the goat boyfriend who she was keeping anonymous because she wanted to be the bigger person and make the video about Women's Healthcare not vilifying her ex which is why of course logically she confirms his ident in 6 hours across multiple platforms Lal yeah because obviously she did because that's that's what she wanted to happen she wanted people to know people always do this like if you're going to make an allegation against someone just say it don't dance around it for like points stop it's so dishonest forms and essentially let a brigade against him until she was called out for misleading her audience at which point she backed down and said she was a victim of everyone else changing her narrative sure and my previous video was showing all of the ways she was being misleading and inconsistent like the one I just mentioned and after releasing a statement Gus went completely silent except for I'm aware of a recent video that calls out some actions that I'm not proud of and I want to apologize the circumstances were extremely hard and complicated for both of us I can't begin even begin to imagine how difficult it was for her we were young and not remotely prepared to deal with the realities of a long-lasting and traumatic medical situation during the talks counseling and therapy went through together following this time I came to grip of my behavior recognized my shortcomings I like her to know how deeply sorry I am I realized what I did wrong and wish I could change how I responded and acted during that time so what he did was he pressured her to get an abortion sorry he wasn't there during her miscarriage what is her video all right abalina Sabrina my pregnancy my ectopic pregnancy two years ago we're going to put her on 1.5 time speed 1 million views includes paid promotion what is this a sponsored video wait oh was that just hold on wait includes paid promotion what the on an allegation video that is crazy from someone like this that's crazy in general that's especially crazy for abalina Sabrina raid Shadow Legends yeah maybe it's sponsored by rocket money oh it says that on a whole bunch of random videos oh is it not sponsored is am I wrong thing is I don't I don't even see like a sponsorship thing in the description so maybe it's not sponsored and that's just wrong let me just backtrack and show you guys how I got there so years ago what is this like 824 is this an a24 movie what is this her claim is that while she was going through all her problems he was off drinking with Eddie and Sven hello um on this very day a certain number of years ago I was in the hospital dying it was the worst experience of my entire life and I don't recommend it 10 out of 10 don't recommend not even with r and I was alone for most of it but little by little as I did open up to some friends I ended up finding that similar stuff like this happens um I don't even know where to go from here um let me just backtrack and show you guys how I got there so years ago I found out that I was pregnant and I did not want to be I was not ready for that and as soon as I confirmed it at home I made a doctor's appointment and I went immediately just to get a second confirmation and just find out where to go from there I had Kaiser Permanente at the time they suck first of all Kaiser you suck I'm so happy I'm not with you anymore why did Gus want this to be public that they had the abortion feel it's kind of a thing to out I mean obviously people are going to act irrationally during a situation like that like do that really need to be made public did they had an abortion when is this from but even though we're in California this is from 2021 so this is already almost three years old and whenever this happened was years prior to this you know the bluest State probably in the whole country you still have to go through quite a few Hoops to terminate a pregnancy and it's scary and even at the first doctor's appointment I think it didn't fully set in what was happening they had to refer me out to Planned Parenthood because Kaiser Permanente refused uh to do it which is wild so they referred me out to Planned Parenthood I you know made the appointment there I went and they couldn't see anything which was weird cuz I was certainly far enough along for something to be seen and they couldn't see anything so they thought well maybe you're not as far long as we thought come back in two weeks or something which you know when you're trying to not be pregnant anymore is not what you want to hear at all especially when most of the medical workers that you've been interacting with have been telling you things like are you sure you want to do this you have to be 100% sure if you're even 99% sure we're not going to let you do this so it sticks with you a little bit I always knew that I to end it but um it it's just harder when you're getting a lot of opposing pressure pressure to not do it from medical staff and honestly your own body it's so weird like once you get those hormones in your body there's like this Instinct that kicks in that makes you want to protect it even though your brain is like no no we're not ready for this this was always the plan if this happened you promised your boyfriend that we would do this so it was really scary to be receiving all this conflicting pressure from medical staff and your body to not do it and then being pressured by your partner to do it pressured by your partner to do it but didn't didn't you say you wanted to get the abortion anyway like why complain about being pressured by your partner he's probably nervous about the fact that he's not ready for a kid right so why why is it a problem that he's telling you to get an abortion when you already wanted do it I don't really get it it felt like I didn't even have a choice it really felt like I wasn't even allowed to consider what would happen um if I didn't but you didn't want to do it anyway I thought right I'm so confused and I'm reiterating over and over I mean look at my appointments this was always what I was going to do I was constantly taking the steps so you were always going to do it anyway but you're mad about him for wanting you to do it and you're also mad that you didn't have the ability to consider that maybe you wanted to keep the kid to end the pregnancy but it's really scary when somebody's forcing you to do it what do you mean forcing you to do I I thought you wanted to do it Al I mean how did he Force you like you technically you can do what you want right like you're a legal adult you can just choose to have the kid right I thought women had like a right to their autonomy or something um and I did have moments of weakness where I would cry and say things like okay but honestly like can we just consider like what if we didn't do it still going to do it but can we just consider what would happen if I didn't and he would say like no it's it's not even a question you're going to ruin my life if you do that that would be the worst thing to ever happen to me along the lines of things that he would say and at one point he even said that he would break up with me I'm curious if before this happened did they talk about what would happen if they got her knocked up right I mean typically when you're having sex with someone it's good to have an agreement like if I knock you up we're going to get rid of it right like that's kind of a conversation you should have you should have beforehand it seems like she didn't even want to have the kid and he didn't want her to have it if I didn't do it and that he would resent me and the potential child I mean if you don't want to have a kid you're probably going to resent it right you're probably going to resent her too I feel like that makes sense I feel like it makes perfect sense and um does she provide any like evidence for what this guy did for what Gus Johnson did in any of this that's really stuck with me cuz then at that point and mind you I haven't told anybody I think I told one single friend couldn't tell my family I couldn't tell I couldn't talk to anybody I'm just really why you can right like what why I mean I don't understand how he forced you either like does he have like a legally binding contract on you does he put you on a leash like you can just not like Tech technically you can do what you want right scary and so at that point it's like well if you're making threats like that why should I consider you in this decision at all and so I did start to think a little bit more should I actually end it and it's true that was me reneging because I feel like when you start a relationship you have the conversation of hey if you get pregnant what's the what's the plan and of course it's so easy to say like oh yeah absolutely I'm not ready to be a parent yet no not anytime soon but God it's so much scarier when it's happening to you in real life so you admit that you reneged on the decision you admit that you agreed to have sex with someone who is your boyfriend you agreed at that time before you had sex or before this moment came that you got pregnant we're going to get rid of the child if if that happens we're going to you know we're going to do a Mossberg up the type situation plant Parenthood bow take that kid the freak out but then when you get pregnant you like change your mind like I I don't think that's I mean at that point like it's half first of all it's half as kid so you should take into account what he says but secondly you can still technically do what you want so that was really hard and then I just kept having pain and bleeding and nobody took me seriously and then one morning I woke up at about 4 am. to the most intense pain I've ever felt in my life in my lower left abdomen and it was so sharp and painful I went to the bathroom because you know I'm all of a sudden I'm bleeding a lot which can't be normal and I couldn't even stand up because the pain was just so intense I went to the doctor multiple times and one of the first times I went the lady was just like well just take some Tylenol go home what do you want me to do then I went again later that day because I was still having so much pain and they said uh oh you're probably miscarrying hold on I got to give her a Wet Willie real quick oo you like that you like the Wet Willie don't you you like that Wet Willie oo I'm going get the other finger ready middle finger oh wet wiie you just got wet Wii oh it hurts doesn't it it hurts you just got wet Wii son the Wet Willie is so powerful dude if you ever need to if you need to punish someone the wet wiie is far greater than any physical violence okay wet Wily and girls is so funny too cuz they hate it wet wiie girls uh Dutch oven girls you don't know what that is look it up it's a very uh safe tactic okay just put them under there close the blanket and let it rip okay hit her with the I don't even in my hands hit her with that okay hit her with hit hit her with a dutch oven go bleed it out at home and then over the course of the next few days so that's my form of contraception I fart in her you know I'm just taking medicine to manage the pain which is constant and I'm still bleeding a lot my appetite is weird even eating something as small as a grape caused so much pain so I wasn't really eating but my stomach was growing a lot for the span of a few days my stomach probably expanded from here to here and it didn't make sense I would call the advice nurse and they would say oh you're probably gassy and so you know I did see she's got to fart she's got to let it rip she's got to do the Dutch oven on Gus take things like gasex and stuff and I'm like I don't think this is helping and I'm still in a lot of pain and you know it's it's just so frustrating too cuz I know at multiple multiple visits I did request Imaging and I never got it like not like the Imaging where like they go on top of the tummy because that's not in depth like I asked for like more intensive Imaging like where they actually go in and they wouldn't do it and I really wish that they would have I was at work and you know trying to suck it up and then all of a sudden the weirdest painful sensation came over me again but this time it made me really dizzy and faint and my heart was just racing and I had this pain in my lower abdomen I just knew something was wrong and so I I left work early I called my boyfriend and I told him something's wrong I'm going to the hospital again I don't I don't feel well something is wrong and he said okay well I have work to do and it involves other people and then we're going to go out and get dinner and drinks with them so I had to go to the hospital alone that is a super thing to do I will say you should not have done that that is very very very very very very bad boyfriend territory I'm curious how old he was at this time was he like 21 23 if he was in his 30s that's like absolutely insane but I don't know if he's like 20 if he's like 18 to 25 I probably would say you could chalk it up to immaturity I would like to know how old he was is this abuse no and I was there for about 4 hours by myself most of it in the waiting room just feeling like I'm just dying the whole time and finally they call me back and they do tests and imaging and I still remember when they took me down to Radiology to do my ultrasound finally I'm getting the in-depth ultrasound and if you guys know anything about ultrasounds you know that the texts are not just join back what are we talking about we're talking about the Gus Johnson allegations my friend allowed to tell you your diagnosis at all you have to hear it from a doctor why is this anyone's business it's truly not and so I will never understand YouTubers strong compulsion to tell Their audience about their private life don't you have friends to talk about this with I'm laying there and I still remember it perfectly the ultrasound tech is in there and she seems confused by something so she gets another Tech's input I don't know if it's like her manager or just another person and then the other Tech goes yeah that's her uterus and then the original text says no that's her uterus and I'm just laying there like what are you talking about uterus was on and they wouldn't tell me anything of course cuz that's part of you know their job like they can't um just in case they're wrong they need a doctor to look at it um so finally they sent me back upstairs and I'm still alone and my phone is dying I'm hoping that my boyfriend can come no you can't play Candy can and I decide because I parked at like a high up level I'm like well um since it's night time now I don't want to have to take an elevator or stairs because I won't feel safe I'm going to move my car to the first level now that it's starting to clear up and I get in my car and I I didn't put my seat belt on uh you know I was in a parking garage I was going like 5 miles an hour and something about the beep of the seat belt that needed to be clicked was just so ominous and foreshadowing it sounded like a heart monitor I just knew there was something wrong I just knew it parked my car got my charger went inside charged my phone finally it seems like boyfriend is on his way so that's nice and he comes right in time to get the diagnosis I had an ectopic pregnancy in my left fallopian tube it ruptured I mean it's super he wasn't there he probably just thought it wasn't something super serious if I had to guess right when she edit the sound in yeah it is kind of insane she made it like a slam poetry session she's a good actress dude I'll give her that I buy I've been bleeding internally ever since they were surprised I wasn't dead and that if I don't have surgery right then and there I was going to die for sure and as an added bonus the surgery might not go well and I might die during that too so here sign these wavers on paperwork because you don't have a choice anymore it just really felt like my body my choice never got to even apply to me and that part really sucked so yeah for those of you who are wondering in my nose video uh that I recently uploaded about when I talked about the traumatic o experience that I had there it is a month ago for my for my nose I was in a totally safe environment safe or I just the PTSD I just had a moment I felt like I was back in that first Kaiser Permanente o all over again and I burst into tears and had a panic attack and yeah it's really affected me ever since anyway the surgery ended up starting at like 10: or 11: it ended around 2 1 or 1:00 a.m. or 2 a.m. something like that I barely remember coming out of it I think I remember asking Dr friend which is funny that the on call surgeon was named Dr friend she was very very kind about it but um they went in there with a little lap naming the doctor kind of strange roscopic surgery and they made two incisions right here on my uh lower abdomen and they also went in through my belly button yeah my entire left what was that comment my entire left fallopian tube exploded lower abdomen and they also went I think you need to tone up your stomach area as it's kind of gross and flabby but I do have post-nut Clarity that isy that guy is insane to be clear her stomach looks fine you're being an ape okay her stomach looks fine went through my belly button yeah my entire left fallopian tube exploded so I don't have that anymore she was able to save my ovaries so that's nice they're just kind of like stuck onto the actual uterus so I still have them for like hormone purposes I can't use them so there go half my ovaries and now I'm at a higher risk of having this happen to me again if if I ever become pregnant again you know they say oh yeah people have ectopic pregnancies and and they end up having children later but I don't read a lot about what happens like if you have like an ectopic Rapture that's what I'm a little scared of anyway so surgery finished and I didn't even consent to this because clearly like I was under like general anesthesia and barely waking up I did not consent to being kicked out at 3:00 a.m. but did they wheeled me out and I I couldn't even really stand up all that well by myself I was extremely nauseous and sounds like do friend is not a friend it's Dr enemy Dr enemy in the house was awful and a boyfriend drove me back to to his place cuz I still didn't get to tell anybody right before surgery um just in case it did go wrong I called my mom and I just I lied and I said it was oh and if very insist it's not so he was but he did show up eventually I mean that's good I don't I just I I have yet to see where he's like evil I guess like it seems like he was pretty immature for not going there and prioritizing work over the girl he got pregnant being in the hospital but it doesn't sound like he's like the worst person ever or like this is unforgivable maybe between them this is unforgivable like I wouldn't I would say they should probably break up considering how traumatic this is but um ultimately it's up to them and I don't really think the public needs to be involved in any way honestly big deal but I just want to let you know what hospital I'm at don't come because I don't want anybody to find out don't come but um yeah I didn't really tell her how severe it was I remember even before surgery too once I found out what was about to happen I called my sister and I'm like oh hey I'm at the hospital and the first thing she says in the most judgmental voice is what you're pregnant I'm like okay yeah I'm not telling you anything so I also lied to her and told her it was a sancest and yeah I haven't really been able to tell people about this over the years just kind of had to keep so you wanted to tell your YouTube audience instead it to myself and it sucks because this thing has changed my life so much I am from surgery after fully blame him because that is a lot of responsibility to put for it and the only person I could really lean on was my boyfriend CU I couldn't tell anybody and I don't fully blame him because that is a lot of responsibility to put on a single person but he started to get real sick of me I couldn't sleep by myself for the longest time so I was over at his place and I'm sure his roommates you know love that but um I was just broken for a really long time I was trying to put myself through therapy I would I don't doubt that she is traumatized like there's no doubt about that I just I don't think that it's really Gus's fault did he behave the best in the situation no and obviously he should have his regrets around this and if this happens again he should not uh he should not do that again and treat a woman or a partner of his that way but I I don't think he's like abusive and I don't think it needs to be brought to the public certainly it sounds like he was a boyfriend at a time when he didn't really know how to handle something super serious like a pregnancy tried to take myself to the doctor whenever you know stuff would spike and it was just the worst and my boyfriend started to resent me and so I I tried bottling it up even more and and not telling him until I was absolutely I think part of the main problem with this is if what that guy said is true we watched the summary if Gus had like a very nice guy persona he's like an amazing guy can never do anything wrong and then this came out it is partially very slightly on him cuz he presented himself that way and then people found out later but I don't think you could have expected this to come out in any way what if you got me pregnant but baby yeah I'll only have babies through the anus certain that I needed to go to the doctor and I would not be able to drive myself like if I try really hard to be independent but sometimes I just can't and those were the moments where I just could and at one point why is the fireplace in the back does this need to be there does the fire blace really need it like can you just make a normal video why does it have to be like this he was that's how I need to tell my story my way talking about how hard it was having to take care of me when I would have those moments my view they I never stopped him from doing anything or going anywhere he still continued to live his life as if nothing ever happened and there I am in the background in the shadows just trying to pretend that I don't feel like I'm dying it's really hard and then he would you know sometimes tell me things like you know someone left you by that bad stuff check out my physique Sabrina so the lack of support was really hard Johnson look like this didn't think so Chad I had to put myself through think so therapy to try to minimize these episodes because I don't I don't want that and I don't want to get hooked on like Xanax or Adavan to try to like take the edge off when okay so what from his point of view because he didn't want me to exaggerate my symptoms or it was a lot but um it just felt like I had to grow up even faster okay so from this video I don't really see a reason to hate Gus Johnson we're going to play out the last 3 minutes or so of this but I mean I understand why she would be mad at him but I don't see why the audience has to have any super super negative impression of Gus like I I guess I exist in a very different content sphere than this person right like I I'm not as Paras socially attached I don't really care if the people I'm watching are great people as long as they're not files right um me there are other things are they like you know like Illuminati she's not a but she's a horrible person like I obviously care about that to an extent but um I feel like with like it's just it's drama from a personal relationship where he was like a boyfriend I just don't see why this needs to be made public at all 90% of YouTube drama wouldn't exist if stuff like this wasn't made public there's zero reason why personal issues like this need to be public I agree yeah but apparently this wasn't a onetime thing she was going to the hospital five times a week with no changes in diagnosis I that's another thing to bring up right she was constantly there he probably thought it wasn't a big deal right he probably should have been there but he he probably just didn't think it was out of the ordinary and he did come eventually he was there for the surgery right he brought her home I just don't think this needs to be made public at all like once again I just I don't I don't really see it I could be totally OB base here maybe I'm sociopath but I just don't think it need to be made public I don't I guess it's not it's not like he's like a a pattern abuser getting girls ectopically pregnant and then like that's not really a circumstance you can replicate right one of the worst things about Kaiser is you can't even sue them if you're a Kaiser Permanente member you automatically wave your right to take them to court and you have to use like their own uh arbitration system so nothing ever came out of that don't have a Fallopian 2 anymore I got dismissed multiple times by multiple doctors I was refused when I asked for Imaging and the thing is if we would have caught this sooner when it comes to ectopic pregnancies uh like the doctors are not g Johnson a shot that you can have that will terminate the pregnancy and then you won't have a ruptured fallopian tube uh but I I didn't get to have that I didn't even know what an ectopic pregnancy was nobody has ever taught me that nobody tells you how often even a a miscarriage is likely to happen yeah the education system really fa this so I feel bad for the people that have bits and pieces of that back now now I'm not the smartest person in the world by any means I'm actually quite bimbo so I'm going to put some resources in the description Down Below in the description below because my biggest regret is not having one thanks for listening to my thanks for listening to whatever you decide to do is your choice CU my biggest regret is not having one you did have one like you made the choice before you had sex right imagine if the roles were reversed okay imagine if the guy in question was like oh we're going to have a kid the girl's like yes we're going to have a kid we're so excited and then she got pregnant and then he was like try to get her to abort it like everybody would be so mad they'd be so pissed and honestly rightfully so given what they believe about you know women's choice and whatever right if she made the choice ahead of time she should be able to follow through and have the kid the guy shouldn't be able to pressure her after the fact like I I thought women had agency I thought it was 2024 like I I don't really get it user ad link to be fabulous I user ad link to be fabulous it doesn't look like it's even I can't from all of these it doesn't look like it's actually a sponsored video really there's no paid promotion from what I can tell well anyway uh so we got that on lock so now I guess it's time I want to go back to Gus's response so he said I'm aware of a recent video that calls out some actions that I'm not proud of and I want to apologize circumstances were extremely hard and complicated for both of us but I can't even begin to imagine how difficult it was for her we were both young and not remotely prepared to deal with all the realities of a long-lasting and traumatic medical situation during the talks counseling and therapy went through together following this time keep in mind she never talked about this did she I came to grips with my behavior and recognized my shortcomings and I would like her to know how deeply sorry I am I feel like this just could have been sorted out privately between these people once again I feel like this didn't need to be made public at all it sounds like two people were in a terrible situation they were unfamiliar with and that Gus didn't handle it well everyone handles grief differently and it sounds like Gus didn't handle it well but that doesn't make him an evil abuser and whatever narrative Sabrina is trying to sell it makes him human we live in a world where these dumb kids think everything is polarized you're either an evil abusive narcissist so psychopath or you're perfect infallible Saint this world view which seems to be more and more common each day is absolutely delusional I don't personally know either of these people and I certainly wasn't anywhere near them when all this is going on so I don't know where care and I'm not taking sides because that's the normal reasonable stance on this why is everyone obsessed with other people's personal lives these days it's creepy stop it well because people are morons all right so we know the basics I think it's time to watch this video by Jimmy Robbins where he goes over it abalina Sabrina and weaponized trauma parenthesis Gus Johnson apology I'm drunk enjoy gunny Mr gun enjoy money Mr gun tuber well thank you very much bro I appreciate it sponsor okay is there actually a sponsor of an vid thanks for listening to my story way this video sponsored by fabulous no way hey dude she's based she accused her ex-boyfriend of being a horrible person cuz he didn't show up to the hospital tried to ruin his career 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more rewarding fun and has a more supportive approach its interactive system serves as a guide to finding your ideal daily routine and actually make it stick and if you get premium membership all content is unlocked unlimited dude this person is a slime ball oh my God all right well this video seems really retrospect the only thing I really agree with is the the idea that Gus's audience turned on him and he's partially responsible for accumulating that audience Maybe but I I feel like this wasn't that big of a deal honestly we're going to get into the Jimmy video gate keep Gaslight girl boss dude she's cool she won she don't give a on T that's on T she don't give a on holy freaking Zam shamma dingdong Bas Bas Bas girl loss dude I love her she's cool for December 3rd 2021 when he uploaded a sketch titled the kid in gym class who always got an ice pack but I'll I'll talk about that more a little later cuz it ties into a point I make later but in essence some people thought that the sketch was a shot at Sabrina because it made fun of a kid exaggerating his injuries and their whole controversy was about him thinking she was exaggerating her medical condition and so when his sketch was negatively received Gus went back into silence until January 23rd when he I mean it's kind of fair of him to assume she's exaggerated her medical condition when like she claims something's wrong but she went to the hospital like five times before she got it determined to be an ectopic pregnancy and every time she went they were like yep you're good you're fine you're fine Pat in the back put a little Vex vapor rub on it and you're good like I she she did she did definitely go through like a medical trauma but it's just not Gus's fault and I don't think he should have been roped into this and called out at all he uploaded a statement on the situation to YouTube basically he says that he was shortsighted and selfish with his actions due to putting his fear above his partners and they sought therapy as both a couple and individuals make a note of that he also admits he came to realize that he handles moments of Crisis poorly and shuts down which is consistent with Sabrina's claims and then he wishes her the best the apology is basically the same as his Twitter apology there's nothing really new here but a lot of people were initially annoyed that he didn't release any kind of state did this guy lose some weight hold on am I tripping seems like Jimmy Robbins lost some some weight if you ask someone to name I think he Lo maybe he didn't maybe he just got a better haircut I don't know if he did lose weight w RZ statement on YouTube before going into the Twitter nonsense it is worth noting that Gus allegedly deleted multiple critical comments I think you could argue her video is just a Story Time video not an allegation video considering she didn't name him I would say that the problem is then when people start naming him on Twitter she like likes it she confirms it later on explicitly she dances on the grave when his show tour is canceled saying that's show biz like initially it was a storytime video and like technically it's up to her to share that I don't think she should but she can do that but she then encouraged his career to suffer as a result of what she went through sounds like she has a goose loose true the goose is loose of his video at least one of which was from a sizable Creator whom Gus worked with at least Gus hid my comment from his apology video as expected once he also put a decent amount of emphasis on the fact that these events happened over 3 years ago and that they dated for 3 years after you can draw whatever conclusion I mean obviously a conclusion you can draw as like maybe she wasn't that mad at the time and she stayed with him and like they work through it I'm curious like how was their break up amicable was it because of this why did they break up what's the deal with that you want from those two points I'm not here to tell you how to think and initially his apology was received really really well with a lot of people basically saying this was a good first step in moving on from this situation people were calling it human and mature because he in no way attempts to go after Sabrina and now we must go to Twitter our first mistake but we're doing it anyway yeah people on Twitter are geniuses no one's ever said anything wrong on Twitter they always respond to allegations well fairly they don't totally vilify the person involved and try to make them look like a horrible human being when they're not they don't push false allegations couldn't be the case Seth and chat says Tom forced me to carry his dark seed to term and give boy birth that's true our motto child was going to be beautiful okay we call him Mulan Tom pay money loveby did interview yeah we're going to check that out later we're just going through the entire thing right now we're running it back chat after seeing the video Sabrina tweeted the following never been to Coupes therapy a day in my life yeah get ready for this because Reddit and Twitter literally changed their opinions of the situation around five times in 24 hours yeah probably just based on whatever each person says and like evidence is probably never a factor in any of this right but okay so he lied okay well that's the last nail in the coffin Gus can't lie in his comeback video that that's unacceptable or at least you'd think Gus responded with his own statement saying very confused why Sabrina is claiming I li a little bit of evidence a little bit of screenshots you're done for you're done for Sabrina it's over Sabrina the Teenage adult witch it's over hours of coup's coaching sessions with it's about money it's about power we stay hungry we devour when you're right you're right specialist that Sabrina picked out herself make a note of that during these sessions we worked on conflict resolution communication goals Etc here is some proof and he includes screenshots of three sessions worth of invoices it's worth noting that this is really the first time in this whole situation that Gus stands up for himself for a lack of better words up until this point he has not once tried to escalate the situation or contradict Sabrina's claims and mostly has just he showed her mercy which he totally could have escalated it by like posting a reply that contradicted what she said but instead he let her have her moment until she started dancing on his career naming him going after him and then he finally weighed in when she keeps him up lying right Express regret he hasn't even tried to share his side for whatever reason it could be because he doesn't want to Brigade her with his larger following it could be because his side makes him look just as bad if not worse or it could be because people wouldn't really listen to him once they made up their minds I don't know and I won't assume and Sabrina decided to come back with slam dunk that um actually it wasn't coup's therapy guys it was coaching a it's a nice gold post you got there Sabrina hold on what was that tweet coaching unlicensed Tik Tok dating coaches are not therapists okay well maybe they're not but like if you went to see someone you could at least say that right you shouldn't just say I never attended therapy the sessions were not regarding my pregnancy or PTSD but mainly centered around Gus's desire to other people and have him be okay with it damn based seed spreader we call him but okay that's interesting a it's a nice gold poost you got there Sabrina I I would ask if you need help moving it but you are a natural and the reason I call it moving the goalpost is because style for me uh double fried corn do dog to Mad died playing wart uh double fried corn dog two mad died playing his roadhog boogie so fat he should go for a road jog when I stick it in I call it my fat hog I'm gay I suck penis I'm gay I like to go to McDonald's to get a fish filet sometimes I sometimes I suck me and sketch are in the cut proving to the world we both like to suck dick on phonm grave my path on YouTube it's what I pave harder than my penis I'm sucking on your weenus this orange 4inch door hinge has a lot of me meanness when you find out it's the same old [ __ ] drama slot L all right by the way the orange for door hinge was ripped from smam just saying everything else is my original bar okay I do on your mom when she hears my flow she can't stop slobbing on my little Tom but it's actually really big when I measure it that [ __ ] hurts kind of like boogies cancer lies I turn turn your trauma into turds by turds I mean money I like my eggs runny I know I'm not funny I only say that when I'm gay I like to eat fish filets all right there you go it went from never been to coup's therapy to actually it was coaching and it wasn't even about me she went on to say quote once again what a very dis ous way to frame everything here right it wasn't couples therapy it was just therapy with a non- couple therapist we never did that like you probably called it couples's therapy at the time and then like retrospectively you're like oh it's not coup's therapy they were a fake therapists these sessions were not regarding my pregnancy or PTSD at all but mainly centered around Gus's desire to other people and have me be okay with it and while most people were still supportive of Sabrina at least on Twitter she started to receive a lot more critic ISM with people saying she was misleading with her initial statement and her disclosing the topic of coup counseling a supposed safe space was a low blow and inappropriate and this is the exact same thing that happened in October where she I won't accept a misleading apology with lies in it I don't forgive you in response to him saying he changed over the three years okay implied that Gus was consistently abusive only to reveal that no no no she called him a liar because yet this he had the audacity to work after her rhinoplasty a rhino wait what a rhinoplasty isn't that a nose surgery so there's like a different medical thing that went on and she got like an optional medical cosmetic surgery and he decided to work after that is that what is being said here A minor cosmetic procedure and that pattern I was going on about well while editing it went a little further she ended up doing the same exact thing here she deleted the second tweet I mentioned but has still left up the first tweet saying never been to couple L therapy it is literally the same exact thing she did last time down to the letter which 5,000 likes oh my God this drama was huge how did I miss this back in the day I guess I'm just not a huge Gus Johnson fan so that's how I I wasn't tapped the freak in but oh my God bro you can be team Sabrina or whatever but the first statement was misleading you cannot argue otherwise there's a huge difference between accusing someone of fabricating events that did not happen and when somebody has this many inconsistencies and is willing to lie about little things you start to question like how much do they lie about the bigger picture right that's always a question obviously he admitted to some wrongdoing to being a bad boyfriend but beyond that I think any accusation is kind of dumb um I mean I I think making the accusation in the first place was dumb but whatever at all and clarifying a technicality if that clarification was her first response it would be Petty but fine her initial response though was misleading and manipulative of her larger audience and more importantly once again it encourages people to theorize and speculate and fill in the gaps with whatever assumptions they can make which is what she wants probably right know what else is Miss she wants people to like project their own experiences onto it so they feel bad for her cuz we're all in this This Together Ching she turns her nose up at the help that they received saying unlicensed Tik Tok dating coaches are not therapists check your notes guys it was a specialist she chose she never refutes this major claim from Gus despite going out of her way to very strange very very strange huh clarify semantics so I don't even understand why she continued to go harder and harder on him after he apologized like it's just it's literally just spite it's literally just Spite and I mean it seems like Karma got her in the end because her Channel's dead but seriously this coach was someone she picked and paid $200 a session for that is the cost of a switch light that is half of the cost of a cheap steam deck that is almost the cost I like that his comparison I like that his comparison is immediately like video games and you just see you just see in the background I don't know if you guys can see that but what do you see behind chat there huh what do you see behind chat oh Dr soy is in the building and we do love it we do love it of my mid-range monitor insert a non-gaming example here why did you pick um what can you give for $200 chat you can probably get a Baldo the thing that uh Nick Rada use for 200 bucks right I assume that's definitely something you can get for 200 bucks why is someone in chat saying sneako is being charged with manslaughter no he's not good meme though but no he definitely was not I did not believe that looking up sneo on Twitter is such a cesspit I hate it anyhow jumping back into the allegations a specialist that cost as much if not more than a licensed therapist if it doesn't count her yeah I mean it's just it's such a dishonest interpretation right and she probably thought she could just get away with it because the audience was on her side own argument literally comes down to either she's full of it she's stupid don't worry guys I'm going to use the same word as a possibility for Gus later or she's incredibly fortunate and has no concept of money either way there is no reasonable interpretation of this that leaves her looking good when considering her initial statement I mean even if you have no concept of money like if you pick a person to like do coup's counseling in some way even if they're not like a verified therapist like and you pay them 200 bucks you have to know that you're paying for something to happen right 1,00% sneak I was not being charged with manslaughter stop saying this [ __ ] in my chat stop the misinfo stop the misin you're making me look this up this is not true also Gus wanted to be polygamous honestly that's really hurtful if it's not what you want I mean I would be crushed if my partner wanted that but why are you disclosing what was said in a therapy-like setting semantics aside the point of your session was to create a safe space where you can be vulnerable and assess your relation ship outing the details of that is a dick move and a significant number of people took issue with this and before yeah so obviously the real intention was not to create a safe space and B her trauma it was a vindictive move to get back at her boyfriend who after they broke up continued to be successful and she did not which is why she was upset at him that's what happened chat one uses the word abuse to justify her actions as without Straw Men there'd be way fewer people defending her uh wanting to be polygamous is not abusive attempting to coers your partner into this based on my very limited understanding of abuse because I'm I'm a YouTube commentary Creator not a psychologist or social worker so it would be deeply irresponsible for me to throw around terms that I'm not specifically educated on right guys right other creators but once coercion is involved based on my understanding yeah that would be abusive not her accusation though the reason but can't she just break up with him like can't she just leave him they don't have a child right the child died so can't you just like if your partner is trying to get you to be in an open relationship like that's and you don't want to do that obviously that's a shitty thing for them to do but you just like break up with them and then you're like it's fine right like it's you don't have to be with that guy you can just leave I assume unless there's something I'm missing I called this out too is it seems hypocritical for a very prox Pro therapy and safe space person to divulge what was discussed in a safe space and to reduce polyamory to [ __ ] other people because now you're in a situation where you can make those things look bad that said she does bring up a somewhat valid point and it would be very misleading to not bring this up from Gus's video so I'm just going to play the clip this medical situation happened over 3 years ago and we continued to date for a few more years after that happened and during those few years we talked about this medical time a lot and we sought couples therapy together and and individual therapy and this was discussed at length now technically he didn't lie he said the situation three years ago has been discussed at length he technically doesn't say that it was discussed at length in couples's therapy the structure of the sentence could I mean I'm not saying you should just take his word for it but like he could be telling the truth and she's just not right like that's possible we don't we don't really know we we weren't there so we just don't know right like I wouldn't just trust Sabrina's interpretation here technically mean it happened in individual therapy or outside of therap this is pedantic well I appreciate the fact he's at least going deep into every possible allegation right like I like that because if he doesn't people can hit him with what about that what about that so at least he went into everything right he covered every base as well but that's semantics which I call Sabrina out for so let's just be clear my interpretation of that statement when I originally saw his video was that they discussed this issue in couple's therapy it is also worth mentioning that the therapy sessions took place in 2021 right before they broke up 3 years after Sabrina's medical ordeal so it's not like they were going right after it happened or according to their receipts at least hey look the whole point of this video is to cut through the BS Year and that includes guses even if in my opinion it's still ultimately semantics and ultimately resulted in her coming out looking worse because if there's more to this story such as if Gus was an abusive partner throughout their relationship it makes it look like she's grasping at straws as opposed to sitting on a Smoking Gun now at this point she was getting a bit of backlash for misleading the tens of thousands of people trusting her right just for fun just for fun let's rethink what happened months ago when this exact thing happened last Autumn when she received backlash for being misleaded why the what is the Pokemon card mean am I [ __ ] why is there a Pokemon card here she released a statement saying that she's done talking about this because it's bad for women not at all because it's bad for women I feel like if your story is not straight that's worse for women right feel like coming out about something that didn't need to be made public is bad for women also come on she looks bad in a situ this is always explanation too I can't respond anymore this is bad for black people like what what the are you talking about you made an allegation respond yeah that was already pretty flimsy so it's a good thing she wouldn't do the same exact thing with a new excuse like I don't know like mental health right come on and bafflingly her final statement is the what was that statement I'd like to address the situation with Gus for the final time when I uploaded my video last October my intention was to share a story as part of my own healing and hopefully to be better understood by Pier's audience friends I didn't name Gus and I didn't intend for things to evolve the way they have I mean but you personally like supported people talking about him you when he apologized after he was named by you basically because of your tweets you were like oh well you know his apology is lies so like it was what it was your intention or not like that's what happened right like come on like you did this to yourself had I become a member you got to do it on a PC and bafflingly her final statement is the most misleading and hypocritical thing she's put out th far and it's kind of infuriating so I'm going to go L by line and point out the many inconsistencies that she uses hey everyone I'd like to address the situation with Gus for the hopefully final time hopefully implies she was forced to address it at all since her original video Gus has literally made zero statements against her she has chosen to call him out with flimsy claims only to back down when called out when I uploaded yeah once again always playing the victim it's always not her fault right she just wanted to share her story it's just a coincidence that she named him after the fact and she won't even take responsibility for that here in the way it probably affected his career I mean it did he lost friendships over it he probably lost other connections he lost a lot my video last October my intention was to share my story every time G or myself address the situation it Lees a bit in my stomach therapy has not helped but navigating the situation is difficult and stressful nonetheless the apology message and recent apology video are not sufficient and don't accurately reflect my experience but I personally need to accept that true accountability may never come it may never come for me what you story as a part of my own healing and hopefully to be better understood by peers audience friends Etc I didn't name Gus in that video and I didn't intend for things to evolve the way they have my goal wasn't to vilify my ex but share a very real struggle of mine that at the time felt invisible she confirmed it was him within 6 hours and did so on both Twitter and YouTube not exactly exactly so like if she had never confirmed it like whatever she probably didn't need to tell that story it probably would affect his career anyway but at least she would have that defense right but she did name him she was okay with it and now she's like walking back she's like oh I never named him you are full of [ __ ] Sabrina abina Sabrina okay you're full of [ __ ] you're a loser you're nothing you're nothing not to mention she has liked dozens of tweets of people bashing including tweets that hit him and the best friend/ creative partner he lost as a result of this against each other either way Sabrina's goal yes was to vilify her ex there's nothing wrong with that either but to have that be your re to you know mil's new song objective and try to deny that bying the very real issues you were trying to advocate for is wait what is Scott's micr do with this the very real issues you were trying to advocate for is disgusting and try dear Adam dalberg AKA net nobody okay great example of someone exposing their abuser without turning it into drama okay yeah I would generally agree with that I would generally agree to deny that by weaponizing the very real issues you were trying to advocate for is disgusting next line since then there have been public statements but no attempt to reach out to me privately I could rant about this line for 20 but like you could have reached out to him privately before you made the public statement right like if you never did that why should Gus be expected to do that I assume that's what he's about to say we're probably going to repeat ourselves but like you made it public in the first place he he's going to have a public response what the minutes but I won't believe it or not I'm being a good boy today some people online were saying that this was really The Smoking Gun that Gus never reached out to her are you kidding me let's operate under the assumption that Gus was an abuser as Sabrina refuses to say but clearly has no issue with other saying so you want your abuser to directly contact you in response to you retaliating to his abuse wouldn't that be triggering since this is a situation you've said you're working through in therapy also why would he Reach Out privately the fact that she even said that comes off is so spoiled and entitled you made a video openly calling him out why does he have to contact her but she didn't contact him before making the original true Lucky Strikes for the ports [Music] um probably Lucky Strikes they're a little they're a little better I don't see them sold right I am though when I smoke uh menthols recently though I smoke Camel Crush they're my favorite undoubtedly the top of the totem pole I got to stop smoking though I'm G to get cancer I'm gonna actually be what Boogie wishes he was video seriously Sabrina would your actions not imply that him directly contacting you would be perceived as a threat especially because contacting you privately would mean it remains a he said she said situation that you could twist but no no no oh [ __ ] someone made an nword streamer tier list let's see here so it looks like I'm not on it obviously because I have never said it right I'm not on this anywhere so I think it's clear that I never said it right yeah I didn't make the list so I didn't say it more proof that I'm innocent of saying the n-word didn't happen it's all AI it's all AI uh false mainstream media leftist lies okay Saina he should absolutely trust you you would never reveal the private details of conversation between you two right therapy has helped but navigating the situation is difficult and stressful n so now you did have therapy apparently I thought before you never went to couple's therapy less nice unnecessary buzz word mentioning therapy tends to make people much more sympathetic of your actions and that's something that is very easy to use to manipulate people but what would ever call someone out for that right call it a low blow if you want but her mentioning therapy accomplished nothing in this statement other than making it more sympathetic the apology message in recent apology video are not sufficient and don't accurately reflect my experience other than the therapy receipts Gus has not refused Ed a single thing she has said please someone tell me what did not reflect her experience when neither of the statements she's referring to contradicted her once I personally need to accept that your accountability may never come when are you doing a collaboration with turkey Tom that guy is evil never Sabrina what the does accountability look like since September of 2021 Gus has lost a long-term relationship not one not two or three but four sources of income not to mention the fact that his reputation is irreversibly damaged yeah he'll bounce back from this financially but his reputation as a Mr Rogers of YouTube is gone not a single large creator is associating with him anymore and his and that's what she wanted to happen if I had to guess she was not okay with him having a career she was not okay with him being seen as a nice guy and she wanted to weigh in and show that he wasn't a nice guy she got a twoof for she got to talk about her trauma and she got to help ruin his career and then pretend that she didn't at all his best friend and comedy partner sever ties with him not to mention his brother was harass because of you despite having nothing to do with the situation which I'm going to get to and he has lost more subscribers than Sabrina even had has she even took the dog like what is left dude I'm not saying you need to pity him but what does accountability possibly look like if this isn't it and if you mean him wanting to sleep with other people or you not being satisfied with his actions during your rhinoplasty that's right I learned how to pronounce it recovery those are the only two accusations that took place within the last 3 years and guess what you broke up with him how do you think the world Works Gus was a bad boyfriend we got it do you think every bad boyfriend or girlfriend has to be thrown in jail like seriously well if you date Sabrina she probably wants that to happen yes she wants your career to be and she wants nobody to ever watch watch you again what's going on in your head how does the world work in there has she ever apologize for this publicly like has she ever made a statement being like I feel bad for this I'm sorry I would guess not because she didn't get that much push back right her video got a million views Jimmy Robbins videos combined probably got 300 400,000 views total right want to hear a joke a straight white man is about to remind Sabrina of her privilege I know funny you are so privileged to have a platform of your size not to mention the fact that you received your platform as a result of your association with other creators seriously at 200k she had jackfilms in a video as a guest I wonder who jackfilms was friends with when that video was gu is Cia his government plan I agree with that you what why does she even have a career in the first place because her Channel died so hard what are her most popular videos oh she had a video five years ago this oh was it was with Gus it was with Gus okay obviously why YouTubers will never be happy hold on let's see this video is Gus in this one could really get lost out here I try to get out here like two times a day three times if it's not raining looks like she made this one on her own maybe maybe he helped ride it when your cooworker gets remoted to manager let's see I can count and I okay so she did have a few videos pop off actually I take that back a little bit but her Channel died hard collab with pinley collab with Nick is not green collab with who these people are interesting why does this guy look like a chunky Wang uh I don't know ask him say Jimmy why do you look like chunky Wang also not Asian was released do you know the privilege that that is especially when the networking in clout came from someone else I'm not saying her platform is unearned or that she slept her way up because I'm not a pig but I am saying she had to work significantly less hard than tons of people with a fraction of what she has and I don't even mean myself dude and then after breaking up with Gus you were able to turn this platform that he helped you build against him make his actions public knowledge and make it so that for the foreseeable future every time he checks a notification it is going to be someone telling them how much they hate him do you know how many women how many victims of abuse which you're presenting yourself as actual victims of abuse by the way not people who had a shitty boyfriend would kill to have their abuser suffer even one of the countless consequences I outlined you have the audacity to feel entitled to more I know I keep using this word but how spoiled can you get if your intention is not to ruin your ex's life what the hell more can you ask for thus far my instinct all right so from this I'm curious we've gotten most of the meat here the Gus Johnson interview that changed everything okay hour and 15 minutes on this one oh there's a lot here there's a lot here all right so this seems like the real the real drama video you can be a bad partner without being a criminally or colloquially abusive partner people who don't understand this are diminishing the experience of people who experience real trauma I mean she definitely was traumatized by the situation I just don't think she was traumatized by Gus and I don't think that it needed to be made public at all whatsoever and I could be wrong somehow but unless there's something huge I'm missing here that I should be made aware of I I I don't think this needed to be made public at all literally at all or at least until Sabrina can't help herself again at which point I'm back to square one all right In fairness I was wrong uh Gus started at this time and as for Sabrina well we'll get to that look I've already made two videos on the situation by now hi Gus a subreddit hope you've been well and those two videos total about an hour in runtime where I am primarily making the argument that Sabrina's actions throughout this controversy have been manipulative and misleading towards the public it's not required viewing will you consider switching to Linux no if you're familiar with the situation but I'm going to come off a bit harsher without that context because I simply can't sit here and rehash an hour worth of arguments but if you want the most straightforward example of what I'm talking about Sabrina made a video where she discussed her ectopic pregnancy in 2018 which is what started this whole situation if you didn't know that you shouldn't be watching but during this video she talks about the lack of support that she received from an unnamed ex-boyfriend and shares out of context experiences that yeah make him look real bad sounds like a real jerk to they always make these shitty memes too Gus the type of guy who goes out for beers while his girlfriend is dying L me and she has at least twice not really what happened either this decision to keep that boyfriend Anonymous as proof that her motives here are good and she didn't make that video in order to spite an ex-boyfriend so she should be shielded from criticism despite the fact that she confirmed that the boyfriend was Gus Johnson within 6 hours on both Twitter and YouTube endorsed literally dozens of inflammatory statements that changed her accusations and as we just found out she attempted to reunite with this boyfriend just three weeks before whoa the original video went she did live at which point he rejected her wait where is the evidence for that wait is that in the video I missed where is that she tried to get back with him 3 weeks before is it this one we watched this one I need I need to contr F for 3 weeks cuz I did not see that where the is this 3 weeks thing I said an interview gusted okay so it's in there if for statements that changed her accusations and as we just found out she attempted to reunite with this boyfriend oh okay as we just found out so he's talking about it being in the interview itself okay that's where apparently that happened okay I didn't realize that my bad um we'll keep we'll keep we'll keep enjoying this one friend just 3 weeks before the original video went live at which point he rejected her if none of what I just said causes you to have an open mind about the situation that's fine leave your dislike and stop watching because I'm not going to be good enough to convince you and that's okay also I'm going to be reading off my monitor sorry this is a really delicate topic so my wording really matters here but as you probably know by now after the original video went live Gus tweeted an apology statement that Sabrina publicly refused to accept in a way that caused her to be called out by the way Jimmy there's a little bit of a uh gristle little bit of a grustle on your mic please fix that I assume I think he did in recent videos I haven't heard of but please please use noise cancellation I thought he quit no he's he's still around I don't really watch his [ __ ] I've seen a few of his videos and I thought they were all right but I don't really uh I don't know just not my kind of content he still posts and gets decent views it looks like does he post on any other channels or is it just uh just this channel I know Jimmy Robin said he lost four streams of income I assume it was collab stuff then right for being misleading but I'll get to that he then goes into radio silence and then releases a poorly received sketch that seemed like it might have been a shot at Sabrina eventually Gus releases a formal video apology Sabrina then accuses him of fabricating events in said apology So he responds by proving said events Sabrina then changes her criticism by saying that she had a problem with the semantics of how he described that event despite her original accusation being a fabrication of events which I don't know I would consider that to be a slightly more serious accusation she discloses the topics discussed during their couple's counseling which don't do that guys that's not cool but for the most part that Recaps everything except not at all but let's focus on what's recent recently this video is like 2 months late huge twitch streamer paymoney wubby hosted a stream where he was discussing the situation in response to a Tik Tok covering it but that Tik Tok had a lot of misinformation and bad arguments that are commonly stated online such DD fault got banned D default got banned Gus Johnson man I would hate to have the Tik Tok audience on my dick I'll just go on Tik Tok and look up Gus Johnson wow what an amazing video Gus Johnson allegations let's look that up see what we get can we find the one searching for the one this could be the one DD not gonna be able to find it looks like not all right we'll watch this one well YouTubers I stand before I realize they were problematic get me out hey guys I know I usually just post about anime and stuff like that but something else happened online recently that kind of rocked me so I wanted to talk about that now if like me you're a fan of the YouTube commentary General you probably know Gus Johnson he's got a couple million followers on YouTube and he goes viral on Reddit and on Tik Tok they call it the YouTube commentary General who is the general is Curtis Connor The General is Gus Johnson the Admiral former Admiral or does he just mean Community is the word for General now what the is this talk all the time so yeah he's pretty well known if you haven't watched Sabrina's video about her pregn are you have a cubian descent I Amy and the issues she has cranial Dimensions you can just tell my head looks like a Corn Nut here's a cigarette or two for the wiga thank you bro appreciate it toaster I highly suggest you go and watch it um very emotionally vulnerable and she tells a lot about her experience and my heart really goes out to her it's my heart goes out to her you cornball sounds incredibly difficult and I can't imagine what it was like essentially what happened is during her recent rhinoplasty surgery according to her what happened according to her that's what happened and during her pregnancy a few years ago her uh boyfriend at the time Gus was incredibly abusive and it's a rhinoplasty it's a no surgery he's not abusive emotionally manipulative and shut up you're stupid Bing Bong who the [ __ ] is Bing Bong okay so full disclosure I have not seen the new part six batch yet I hate you I can't watch you get out of my sight just the fact that Gus nearly caused Sabrina to die because he was abusive which according to the information released so far is flagrantly incorrect during the stream wubby let several fans call in and debate him on the topic at one point joking that Gus was welcome to come on the stream and be interviewed get Gus on a call bro okay hey gus do you want to come on a call and publicly share your is payone WBY cool I don't know a lot about him is this guy uh Mr Mr Bas is this guy Mr Mr Mr goto with the sauce I don't I don't know a lot about pay money wubby the story which you've never done up until this point to wubby surprise Gus came on and participated in an impromptu interview largely thanks to wubby staff helping him come up with questions this interview included several New pieces of information the largest of which was that shortly before releasing her video Sabrina asked us to get back together and he rejected her the day after this interview to be clear that's according to Gus I don't think we should immediately take Gus's word for that maybe you could trust him a little more just based on the fact that she's had multiple inconsistencies and he hasn't had nearly as many but I don't think you should just instantly believe Gus because he said that but I'm curious what Sabrina said in response Saina responded with her own stream where she accused Gus of fabricating events entirely in my opinion using really flawed arguments but we'll get there and a kind of big anecdote where she doesn't call him physically abusive but mentions an incident where he tried to grab her phone three years ago and he accidentally her hair in the process look it's really messy but I'll cover it properly later to prevent backtracking because this why even bring that up he accidentally grabbed her hair is that is that like physical abuse what the what is even going on what is going on what does my fat ass got to do to get that tank top in like 4xx any good quality tanks this is from cz's World on YouTube it's a good tank top uh I don't know go on his online store he probably sells it video was already be way longer than I want it to be I'm going to talk about the exclusive takea from Gus's interview then cover the overlap between the two streams then the exclusive takeaways from Sabrina's stream then I'll discuss the discour surrounding this topic from prolific creators jonald Scott thanks for coming a member and then I will give my take on this entire situation which I haven't really done yet feel free to jump around to what parts of that inter you the chapters are in the description and in the time bar thing literally right here this isn't a substitute for watching either stream by the way this is just me contextualizing those two streams against one another as well as against Twitter and Reddit and my opinion that said let's talk about Gus so Gus eventually calls in and immediately emphasiz is that he does not wish to invalidate Sabrina's trauma in fact he says this around a dozen times when he wasn't saying this the vast majority of the the thing is like with a lot of people who say stuff like this I think is but I actually believe him just based on the fact that when she made her initial video instead of like responding and like calling out her inconsistencies he was just like I'm sorry he just apologized instantly because he felt he genuinely felt bad and he only started going off when she started lying about him she started put like even more rather she started pushing for him to lose his career opportunities and like encouraging that right thanks Mitchell for coming a member a lot of Scots in chat today interview is really just just doing three things one of which is what led to there being a part three of this one he widely confirms Sabrina's story while acknowledging his own heads space and factors that went into his own decision- making such as loss of sleep caused by Sabrina's anxiety attacks and PTSD episodes and the fear caused by her threatening to not get an abortion despite them originally agreeing otherwise basically the things that he was doing weren't in a vacuum as originally presented but had missing context but he never really uses this to make excuses you know so he'd say something like I did some really dumb things because I was being worn down over months and constantly in a state of fear but that doesn't make my actions okay and before people say those are excuses please learn what excuses are explaining the circumstances around negative behavior is not an excuse unless you try to use those circumstances as a explanation we call it chat explanation means to normalize your behavior criticize Gus I I don't care but please stop saying things that are blatantly untrue when there are things that you can legitimately criticize him for here the second takea away from this interview was him acknowledging and correcting a lot of the disinformation that Sabrina hasn't stated but implied was true on Twitter despite a lot of this disinformation directly contradicting her story other than the Gus almost killed her line you also have the misconception that he forced her not to tell her friends and family about her pregnancy when she never even implied this in her yeah that's true so why did she even like that when she didn't even say that to keep Sabrina suppressed from even her family knowing about things I mean in the video she didn't even say that she just said that she didn't want to tell her family because she didn't think they would take it well right she gave the example of her sister who was like let me guess you're pregnant so she didn't want to you know talk about it right like it's not Gus's fault she could have just said it making her keep silent about forcing her to get an abortion did he really force her like she said she wanted it from the beginning they agreed to it her original story and in fact stated that she didn't tell her family due to them being judgmental I called my mom and I just I lied and I said it was oh and a very insist it's not a big deal but I just wanted to let you know what hospital I'm at don't come because I don't want anybody to find out I called my sister the ma so why did she even like that she just was cool with any allegation being made against him even when it was untrue or inaccurate because she was spiteful and that's it like oh hey I'm at the hospital and the first thing she says in the most judgmental voice is what you're pregnant oh that's what I just brought up crazy I'm like okay yeah I'm not telling you anything so I also lied to her and F her was so very insist also at no point do he accuse her of fabricating any particular event in the original video and saving the best for last he added context to their breakup and aftermath that in my opinion kind of confirms what I've been saying for months now we're not to the point where I go into my take on the whole situation yet but this part was still yikes let's go through these accusations according to Gus he and Sabrina remained on good terms after they broke up with him even dog sitting for her at one point she gives him gifts and asks him to get back together he rejects her at which point she screams at him and slams his door on her way out and this took place just 3 weeks before her original videos released he also says that while they were together she never mentioned a desire to make a video talking about her pregnancy and that he would have been willing to appear in the video owning up to his actions had she asked but it also makes him look good to say that at this point and we have no way to know he's being sincere when he says that so take that with a grain true take it with a grain of salt you don't want to totally take his side just because he says something's true doesn't mean it is after her video's released he claims that she reached out to their mutual friends in contacts in order to pressure them to cutting ties with some of these contacts apparently approach Gus and told him she made them uncomfortable lastly Gus said that when he announced on Instagram that he would be canceling his tour due to not finish I kind of want to just hear this interview honestly Gus Johnson pay money wubby what is this my best financial advice I'd give you is just like even though all right go away um I want to hear just the interview in full oh 3 hours it's three hours all right well obviously not all of this is the interview itself right Gus Johnson reaches out okay call with Gus this get the last hour or so it isn't Gus the abuser Johnson In the Flesh oh my goodness not the intro I was expecting I'm sorry I'm trying to lighten the mood I'm sorry it's okay I understand the tone of the stream thank you for so much for calling me yes thank you for for for talking I don't even know uh uh where to begin again but I'm glad you were watching stream you've been a bit of a conversation piece on the stream for a few months now I can't seem to shake it it always comes back I guess I have the hottest take on the internet about this so I get a lot the hottest take which is like the only normal take honestly of heat but uh sure I I understand that and I just want to start off too this is not something that I really ever do uh I I really appreciate you calling me and talking about this like this uh this is just a really unique uncomfortable situation for me that I don't usually have any experience with uh so forgive me if you know it's it's a little weird at all but I just kind of wanted to jump on and just kind of shed a little bit more light on the situation and maybe clarify some of the things that have been out there in the last like five six months or so and just kind of go from there he's driving that bus uh good question but thank you so much for giving me a call dude of course yeah I'm I'm I'm happy to do so I mean the thing is is like I've been saying uh current year they let them at the front now chat I do have my own personal opinions on everything but and this is my stream so I will share them it's hard to help it but what I always come back to is I try not to get too into it without acknowledging that we don't know everything and it's really hard everything especially because your responses have been lackluster at best right you haven't said a lot on this we we've in fact in my own like personal work crew we've uh we've had conversations about trying to get some stream to talk about it and it gets shut down right then and there because we're like he's never he's never going to come on in like why would he right here you are well I I do appreciate being here and really I just want to say up front too I I totally understand this is your stream completely uh I think you can probably tell right up front I'm probably not going to match your energy as much with it that's fine don't don't uh I just uh I I would love for an opportunity to kind of like share some stuff and I just want people to know up front that my intention here is to not try to discredit or disrespect anybody but maybe just like clear up some common misconceptions that have been out there for a few months uh you know this has been something that I've had to deal with every day for the last half of a year and it's dominated a lot of my life Bernie Mack who is Bernie Mack is that oh what is him I recognize him from a movie or something I don't really know who that is I just wanted to kind of come in talk a bit about some of it so yeah anything you want to share I mean if uh once you get through you know certain things you want to touch on I can ask a couple questions you can choose to answer them or not but I want to hear the three weeks part no transcripts never mind you have the floor anything you feel like you want to let sure I appreciate I mean I just want to say up front too uh the Sabrina situation like what she had to go through with the ectopic pregnancy was it was real it was painful I was just absolutely so sad that we had to go through this [ __ ] and and really I just wanted to be known especially as I talk about her in some of these situations that I do not want to negate or discredit any of the legitimate trauma that she had to go through um I I can't imagine being in her position you know I was very intimately close to her and the situation but I I can't imagine being in her position um it had to be extraordinarily difficult and uh and I just wanted to preface that like I I don't want to create problems for anybody at all I don't want to create any hatred or disdain towards any individual I just want to kind of clarify some things that at this point you know comment sections and stuff have kind of been a little bit more commonplace for folks to reference and a lot of things just are not really accurate with how they went down and I just kind of want the opportunity to do that a little bit so for sure um I began dating Sabrina when I was uh 22 I was still a senior in college um and we we started long distance for many months and she lived in Portland I lived in Wisconsin and um after we Mo we both moved to Los Angeles um in the fall of that that same year and we had both been living out here uh kind of you know like really getting into like actually being you know in the same city as each other for like the relationship we really already tell he's genuine dude be careful with that kind of thing just because someone sounds genuine doesn't mean they are genuine to be clear generally in this situation I support Gus I don't support Sabrina but be careful with that kind of thing because just as someone seems genuine doesn't really mean anything really been doing you know it had been about two or three months um and she got pregnant uh that fall um she and I had talked a number of times about what would happen if this did if she did become pregnant and we had both agreed that since we were really young and uh didn't really have a lot of our personal life footing in in order yet uh neither of us really had any money uh when we moved out here uh we both agreed that it was not uh we couldn't give a good life to a child and this is something that Sabrina echoes in her own response or her own initial video She and Him both claim simultaneously that before they uh wereing on the rag or whatever or at some point rather they had a conversation about the fact that would not have a child if if she got pregnant okay that time um so we had agreed that you know if a pregnancy did occurred that we would seek termination um unfortunately she got pregnant and you know I the thing is I completely understand too like you can prepare all that you want for a situation like that and nothing really holds full Merit until you're in it um uh you know you can prepare all you want but I understand that that preparations go out the window to some extent when the thing actually does happen um she found out that she was pregnant and it terrified both of us um like I said you know we were in a new city uh we were trying a lot of new stuff and um you know I just uh funded the podcast with Eddie and was trying to deliver that on time and everything um and there's just a lot going on and neither of us had prepared for this what about what they what happened made Eddie want to drop him because he was an to Sabrina is that is that it I mean that's within his he's within his right to do that but I'm just curious what specifically from his perspective made him want to drop yes it's really terrifying um we started going to doctor visits and that also being said in a reasonable Society nobody considers terminating an ectopic pregnancy and abortion well that's true but uh they were planning to get an abortion and then the ectopic pregnancy happened right and Parenthood together uh happen three years before they broke up yes it did to look at our next options and it really worried me right away um that Sabrina began to express a change of her mind in regards to what we would do with the kid um and you know she was kind of in between jobs and stuff at the time and she just kind of fully changed her mind on that um and I didn't deal with that in a very mature way um I I was really fearful and um I just thing is like how else can you respond than to be like get rid of that kid mosbergen type situation right like how how else can you react realistically like if beforehand they were like we're not going to have a kid and then when she gets pregnant she's like oh maybe I actually want to have it like what she herself said like I is he supposed to respond like oh actually I changed my mind I'm going to have a I'm going to be a father I'm cool with that now you know I just told her I wasn't ready for this I I fear that it would create a big problem for us in the relationship and I just expressed that with her at the time um but ultimately the uh decision of what to do was taken away from both of us though when she was diagnosed with an ectopic pregnancy um we didn't know this diagnosis at all until uh really late in the process I know that she shared in her own video too that um you know she uh went to the doctors a number of times before this diagnosis I joined her on a number of these trips as well uh the knowledge that we had at the time um she was she was spotting uh at home and and some doctors had told us that it was most likely a miscarriage that she might be uh processing this and and might have it pass at home and to come in if there are any further issues um that was the knowledge that we were operating under at the time um on the the day that a lot of people seem to have been referencing in the comments of various things and stuff in the last few months uh I had made a podcast obligation uh with a guest to film that evening um we had just started the podcast and gotten it off the ground and I just felt a lot of pressure to deliver to the people that crowdfunded that to deliver to Eddie and this is me taking full responsibility for that decision it's not Eddie or anybody else you know that caused that just I just chose to stick behind and and honor that obligation um she told me that she was going to the hospital um and I told her I would join her as soon as I was done at that time neither of us still knew that it was an ectopic pregnancy yeah like keep in mind once again like he didn't have any reason to believe it was something serious she had already been like five times so he couldn't have known that she was having an an an ectopic pregnancy ectopic pregnancy like there was no reason for him to necessarily believe that so like do I do I think he acted a little shitty like maybe but like at that moment I think it makes sense for him to prioritize the crowdfunded podcast we had no idea the the emergency situation that was in effect that was neither of us my gender at the hospital that evening and uh we both got the diagnosis that it was a topic and it had to be removed right away um and I I I stayed with her during the surgery and took her home after uh but that was that order of events as as it happened um anyway I don't know if if you wanted to jump in at all yeah I was I was just letting you you know say what you wanted to say sure I think that that's that's uh I noticed that in in from what I've seen online as well that she even mentions you were doing something for work but i' I've realize the more this gets brought up the meme of he you know he went out for drinks instead of uh you know and nearly killed me is what I've been saying we responded to a video today of someone saying that you were uh you know nearly responsible for her death um which I'm seeing perpetuated which is not true at all 10000% not true at all she's at the hospital with the doctors Gus is not going to make the doctors act faster or something like that like she's at the hospital and I'm assuming that's something you how do you feel about that rather um I mean like I said I I really I only wanted the best for the entire time I had no idea neither had any idea how serious the situation was um going into this entire medical situation I had never I I I think there might have been maybe one time in my adult life at that point that I had been to the doctors myself um I was not really familiar with the medical field at all um and you know after going to a handful of these doctors appointments uh both together and then her some as well uh we we figured out stuff as we went I mean I just had no experience in this area um and just going into the actual ectopic surgery you know like we had already been to the doctor a number of times I just I really just didn't know what I was doing and I was really young and just kind of listening to whatever the doct yeah I think it's a totally fair explanation I'm going to go back to Jimmy Robbins video now to get some more clarity on the entire because obviously Sabrina responded to whatever he said there right so I want to see this entire thing basically finishing his show as a result of everything happening Sabrina tweeted quote that show is baby within an hour now I can't confirm if it was within the hour but it was within the same day now onto the overlap Sabrina confirms that she acts us to get back together 3 weeks before her video is released so she confirmed it she confirmed it and admits to ask him to get back together not because she loved him and wanted him back but because it was a more comfortable environment for her to deal with her trauma and for closure what are you talking about bro thanks for the five Jackie true it was a more comfortable environment to deal with my trauma so the but so then after that you decided the most comfortable thing would be to talk about it on YouTube does that make any sense because somehow she thought that was a better look than wanting to get back together because of love like one you look like you drive a geom Metro well we were looking at houses to get together and the next week um I'm living alone in a hotel trying to handle my PTSD because one of the things about it was that I couldn't sleep alone so I was starting to reconsider like oh my get a new boyfriend instead of using him to emotionally validate you gosh was was this a mistake because at least I knew how to like maneuver and in that life I really didn't actually picture us getting back together but in my mind I think I just wanted to know that I tried my best that I did everything that I possibly could and then it would like be out of my hand I will also note that g stated that he paid for the majority of her living expenses while they were living together something she's confirmed now I'm not trying L to say that that's why she wanted him back I'm saying that it certainly was an additional benefit to their relationship but despite that confirmation she refused to claim that she screams at him or slam the door and her evidence is her dog was with her and she and Gus were still cordial after this happen oh so the dog knows well you say that you and Gus were still cordial after he almost let you die or whatever the you think so that doesn't really work right like you can't really use that excuse now you dated for 3 years after the ectopic pregnancy which was so traumatic in evidence of his abuse as you liked tweets on Twitter confirming apparently okay so this excuse doesn't really work happens because someone getting emotional once means you can never be polite again I guess look I have no issue with her setting the record trait in any way that she wants to but she uses very weak arguments and out of context messages as definitive proof of her claims like she'll accuse him of fabricating events act like she's able to provide proof doesn't and then says so I think you know he's lying dude just say I don't think I do at all it seems like you're lying sabr he lied like if you're a trustworthy person who doesn't have a pattern of misleading people why would a community of people that universally believed and supported you on day one doubt you for even a second oh but in this case she uses the brief exchange between her and a friend as evidence that I guess she didn't care enough about the outcome of the conversation to scream even though he apparently helped her cope with PTSD she she didn't care okay whatever and by the way this conversation that proves Beyond a doubt she wouldn't scream at him basically boiled down to the relationship sounds bad for you why do you want to get back with him you know I don't know yeah I'm pretty sure every single adult has been on both both sides of this conversation including when they wanted to get back with their partner but hey Tom I don't know if any financial payment system is linked but you're one of my favorite creators love the consistent uploads and hilarious takes most based individual on this website uh well thank you I mean if you want you can just super chat me if you want to pay me or whatever um yeah just drop that drop that Super Chat thank you for the 10 I appreciate it bro whatever she also says that her friends can confirm that she doesn't raise her voice so okay well a lot of turns out there's something worse than dating a fan dating someone before you were famous only for them to try up your career when things end yeah this is like my concern with dating now bro this is my concern with dating like if I'm an to a girl she going to come out and say I've abused her or something you you just never know bro you never know people can say that Gus was a stand-up guy so I guess that means he didn't do anything wrong because his friends say so we now know it is impossible to abuse someone behind closed doors I mean come on do you see how dumb these are hey Tom Katy Perry dropped any music video and Trisha is oiled up no no way I got to see This Woman's World oh my God all right let's just skip to Trisha pis oiled up how's she even getting this she's fat oh no no no she is literally oiled up she's literally oiled up what is going on here chat very dark ktie looks good though just saying Jesus Christ Nick that's very dark you didn't need to drop that on me I'm traumatized I'm posting twit longer and video sponsored by fabulous arguments are I'm sorry but this is just a pet peeve of mine don't make arguments if you're not arguing anything just sck to making statements as Gus did and before people mentioned how some online were asking for evidence from Sabrina in order to take her seriously one those people are wrong but two this was just all really weak to me in general she presented the weirdest and most random things as if they were pictures of bruises and voice recordings when they were really nothing and also I don't think most people cared about her screaming at him when he rejected her personally I was way more shocked that she asked for him back three weeks before she drudged up events from three years ago the way that she did but whatever in response to saying she pressured mutual friends to cut ties with Gus she says she didn't but don't worry once again there's proof the proof being she asked her friends if they felt pressured and her friends told her they didn't so that means he died even though that is the exact same evidence he used for his claim but somehow her using the same evidence is more convincing I guess she also said that the that Showbiz tweet coming out on the same exact day that he canceled his tour was a coincidence because she was watching old movies or something you liar sure I'm sorry look my problem here is that as a complete Outsider who knows neither of these people I have been able to find multiple instances of Sabrina contradicting herself changing her accusations or being misleading that really hasn't been the case here for Gus so when now there are examples of the two of them giving conflicting information any word on idbs making a doc about you he has not reached out as far as I've seen so no conflicting facts I personally find myself believing the person who hasn't been playing these games here like if you know that the truth is enough to make the other person look bad or whatever it is you're trying to accomplish here because apparently it's not that why are you repeatedly making misleading statements this is when that kind of thing catches up with you you know yeah I would recommend some people taking another look at the boy who cried wolf it seems relevant here anyway that's her response to the accusation so let's talk about the stream itself you know when I saw on Reddit that Sabrina was streaming a response where she was showing old messages between her and Gus I accepted the fact that I was going to have to retract an hour of content on my channel because she finally had the bombshell that she's been sitting on for six months and yeah I'm sure she totally destroyed you bro and for some reason hasn't used until now good news guys I don't have to retract anything either because I'm perfect or because the stream did not go well take your pick she is it just me or did this feel really off especially the first half so smug Anda said really doesn't play well with the narrative sorry but Sabrina has a textbook mean girl attitude mannerisms came with accusations of her own that I'll get to but first I want to talk about the general tenor of the stream in my opinion it was weird and a lot of people even express the opinion that she came off as like smug and vindictive because she was smiling M and all that and I don't know I thought she was like sad a day ago body language is such a hard thing to read you can make your own opinions but for me it was more the fact that a lot of what she says comes off as is really hypocritical Fair example she says that her being harassed with what she calls false claims is completely unacceptable but that's what happened to Gus for six months and she enabled it but she didn't make false claims she told the truth it's just a coincidence that Gus had contradictory evidence is a coincidence that she was cheering on his career dying like that's I mean that's just a that's a coincidence right she told the truth by liking dozens of tweets that were doing exactly that so why is harassment suddenly bad my knowledge she never discouraged people to stop harassing Gus until public opinion began to turn against her and I'm going to say it again she encouraged people to harass Gus with incorrect information that made him look bad like who's enabling harassment the one that liked dozens of critical tweets about the other including tweets that hit him and his former best friend against each other I am never letting that one go dude these tweets are crazy I hate these people let me zoom out so you can read these this is actually insane but I've always liked Eddie so much better and I'm glad my animal instinct is correct AB Sabrina I love you girl we don't know each other but I'm here for you genuinely sorry you have to go through learning your best friend as a terrible person you two bounce off each other like no one else we'll miss it but it's better this way L yo what's up what what's up SFO what's up we're going over the Gus Johnson allegations which I've never looked into and uh it seems like uh abalina Sabrina was full of [ __ ] definitely a cool thing to look into if you want to hop on uh to this story at some point or the guy who broke his silence after six months are we really going there Bros actually looking at Twitter likes well okay let me say this okay typically I would say that looking at a Twitter likes too much is dumb okay especially if the content of what you're liking is like whatever okay like I'll like a lot of memes on Twitter and some people will probably be like oh Tom that shows what you truly believe okay in this case she made a specific allegation about someone that she knew she publicized it she was cheering on his career dying and she was in liking tweets which promote misinformation about it right so in my opinion that is something worthy to call out okay cuz she is basically endorsing it by liking that tweet first of all and Twitter likes were public at the time so anybody could see that and by that same token she is complaining about Gus responding to her okay so so from my perspective it's okay to call her offer Twitter likes in this case thanks for explaining no worries that's that's what I'm here for generally what I say is Twitter likes are a big deal no I wouldn't give a [ __ ] but in this specific situation like she made an allegation against him people are posting misinformation about him and she's liking it and like obviously people are going to read into that in a certain way right by even liking it by the way I don't know if you guys know this but if you like something it might pop up on your followers timeline and they're going to see it more but she gets to like wash away any responsibility like all I did was like it you know you know like here's a super weird clip that shows what I mean only going to do what was going to bring me peace but did it really bring you peace did it I haven't had that today or since last night you know I could I could have people calling me a liar I could have people harassing me but the combo it's just I can't can't can't have the combo can't have the combo and be quiet she also tells Gus to keep her name out of his mouth and that he forced her to do this stream I hate her mannerisms when this is the first time in six months that he escalated the situation every other you escalated by making it fing public you dumb [ __ ] you escalated by making it public in the first place he has a right to respond especially like he can respond at any point in time keep in mind he can respond one month later three years later he can respond however he wants if he feels like he needs to clear up the narrative and that's what he did and now that you're being called into question you make this stream response Jesus time it was her I hope that Gus continues to make sketches please do go stream go on go on tour go go do everything just keep my name out your mouth I keep my name out your mouth after you publicly made an allegation about him like you you publicized it you put his name in your mouth and I know sabrini is going to claim oh I didn't say his name but you did confirm that it was about him and that's why everybody was talking about it and when allegations were coming out against him when there was misinformation even from you you weren't like guys just clear it up this is what actually happened I feel bad for Gus don't come after him you never said that once you didn't say that once so shut up thank you Larry lover for the Dono I I just don't I want this to not happen anymore accuse them what you want dude but please stop trying to make arguments Sabrina because you are desperately bad at it is the way to stop someone talking about something to like constantly fuel it tweet about it post about it on your Twitter stories or whatever like tweets that are spreading misinformation about it like that he prevented you from telling anyone when he didn't even do that like is that the way to stop it or would that prolong it what do you think Sabrina what do you think also says this we have lives off of the internet as well wow how cool are you and it seems like normally the healthiest thing to do is to understand that people strangers are not entitled to know every little detail about wow and you totally respect that notion by publicizing this in the first place and then liking people speculating about it and encouraging people to harass him and drop him and being cool with his friends dropping him as a result of it right that's like what you're that makes sense right that makes perfect sense I think you're right I think you're right you're you're based actually Sabrina okay take another fabulous ad you're right but if you're trying to negatively affect someone's reputation with claims that people find flimsy you are not entitled to support when you have been caught being misleading on multiple occasions despite having the upper hand in the situation so why would you need to be misleading but yeah with that out of the way let's talk about the new accusations I recently got to see ADR they were awesome yeah they're great man they're great I'll be seeing them in October before anyone says I missed anything a lot of this dream was either repeated information or really was just slightly refuting minor details about things that were said so unless you want this video to be 2 hours I'm going to focus on entirely new information firstly she implies that Gus and wubby planned the stream in advance and that the impromptu nature of it was fabricated and it was all conspiratorial of a little seemingly impromptu interview yesterday on a popular twitch streamer Channel off the bat weird like she's super conspiracy torial bro she thinks the world is out to get her and that's typically when someone does that it's a sign of projection that they're actually out to get someone else like how she collaborated with multiple people like Nick is not green to uh seriously up Gus's life and normally like sometimes with allegations like even if it's a false allegation I wouldn't say that the reason they did it is for clout or to ruin their life because some people are just misguided and dumb but in this case in this case based on her behavior it seems very obvious she wanted his career to be hurt she was a lover scorned and she was cool with his career going down the toilet start especially coming from someone who's wrongfully accused us of fabricating events in the past also I've been saying this since the beginning nobody cares about her unless Gus is brought up yeah imagine how salty she is about that it is super weird to focus on such useless details and speculation if you're sitting on a Smoking Gun that demonstrates you were a victim of were you going to bring us with you while you pee real soon it'll be happening real soon I was considering it would probably be fun if I when I'm streaming if I like go to get fast food and I like call myself on Discord on my phone so I can like film it but I don't really want to show where I get McDonald's so I don't really want to do that maybe if I'm on vacation sometime I can do that of abuse during the course of your three-year relationship at least in my opinion because that's the problem here you can make the argument that Gus was neglectful in 2018 but a lot of people aren't convinced that it goes into the territory of abuse and if it does many think it doesn't matter if he demonstrated during the three years that followed that he's changed I I don't think it was abuse that word is thrown around too much it's one of those Buzz words that people just like to throw around oh I was abused it was abusive it was traumatic I have PTSD I don't doubt that she has some form of PTSD or she suffered trauma as a result of the ectopic pregnancy and everything that went with that because it's very traumatic but I do not I do not think that Gus is responsible for that or if he did contribute to it that he should be held accountable to this day or that need to be made public at all he also mentions this uncool comment that Gus made at one point he said he was glad it was ectopic because then neither of us had to choose and the choice was made for us um well that's a shitty thing to say but you were talking about how you were going to have the child after agreeing to not have it before you got pregnant so like why would he not think that at the very least right even if it's a shitty thing to think also no proof at all really no proof or anything in there and it worked out yeah not a good thing to say not going to defend it obviously that was super insensitive but the delivery of her saying that felt so practi to me like the Laugh into the voice drop into the dramatic pauses she's an actress she's a great actress bro you can tell look look at her oh I just skipped away more of this than I intended to At All You Can Tell She's a great actor look at her video man look at her look at this amazing acting hey how ironic is it that she accused him of like skipping out skipping out on her on her freaking ectopic pregnancy surgery or whatever to get drinks in her most popular video is ordering drinks at a bar Pia Cinema Pia Cinema my friend can I get you hello I would like one alcoholic drink please [Applause] that'll be 3650 leau leun we achieved leun because then neither of us had to choose and the choice was made for us and it worked out yeah not a good thing to say not going to defend it obviously that was super insensitive but the delivery of her saying that felt so practiced to me like the Laugh into the voice drop into the dramatic pauses I don't know it felt weird to me and before anyone says it Gus keeping him and his mother crying at the end of one of his comeback sketches was extremely intentional and was done to Garner sympathy and I've criticized others for doing that stuff my point is I don't like when either of them try to shift our Focus from that is super gay that he did that the facts of the situation to their emotions because it's what makes people so blind to the actual story here and leads to completely Boogie made a video Boogie made a video what did Boogie have to say about it I bet it was a good take curious what Jay Aubrey said too garbage person did he ever make a followup what's up ladies and gentlemen of YouTube boy 2988 coming at your live once again to the power of the internet and today included found some of what he did pretty cringey but funny in a cringey way I always found Gus at his best when he was either doing videos with his girlfriend of this year's live sucks but it's way better than continuing to abuse a person thirdly Gus says that he wants to take responsibility for what he did and grow and become a better person but there has been evidence to surface and I'm not going to share it here you can look it up but there's I'm not going to share it here you fat liar what did Jay Aubrey have to say about it um Gus John J Aubrey official podcast all right Gus Johnson I forgive you okay he's still like his victims are still victims like I'm glad you random person on the internet forgives them it's like you can't forgive him on someone else's behalf he weren't the victim here he may have somebody and you're like yeah I think you can move past this and grow as a person okay oh Lord um this really traumatic experience in her life with her pregnancy and her miscarriage and then almost dying as a result and she kept so she's talking about how like the healthcare system has failed her like all which yeah and then she was talking about um her boyfriend at the time and so but she doesn't name Gus uh she just keeps saying that her like her ex-boyfriend and then people put it together people were like able to to like track like you know the dates that she was mentioning and oh she was with Gus at the time and she was basically saying that he was like completely like neglecting her her needs and um like wouldn't take her to the hospital when she was quite literally dying um she she basically I forget the the name of it um but she was internally bleeding at one point after the miscarriage and she like Tic what it's something with an e ectopic pregancy yeah and it's it's verye and and lifethreatening and she needed someone to take her to the hospital and Gus was basically like sorry I've got work um I'm going to go out drinking with some friends you know I can't or whatever and so instead of taking his girlfriend to the hospital she had to drive herself and then she gets there and they they figure out how severe it is she almost dies um and I mean that's just part of it there was this whole other thing where baby make it no no she she Mis scried and yeah it's really it was really sad was that like his goal because it's coming back to me now wasn't he like trying to pressure her into an abortion or something yeah I'm curious if these guys ever posted a clarification to this and like post post some more information about it maybe like I think this was just he she mentioned in the video that like he forced her to like stay silent like she couldn't tell anybody not even her parents like when she was in the hospital going through all this and so I think this she didn't really say that just her like reclaiming that and just like being able to talk about it because she said like she she only hopefully they have posted some kind of clarification maybe they did at some point and I'm unaware of it but yeah that seems silly that seems really silly unrelated creators making entirely false Boogie I don't expect any different from him he doesn't even know where he is he doesn't know his name he doesn't know if he has cancer or not and would suffer from episodes that were Beyond a typical anxiety attack the only things that doctor said they could offer her were basically happy pills which she didn't want to take according to her she was visiting Gus's family when she had another PTSD episode that was unlike her previous ones this attack had new symptoms such as numbness and slurred speech she asked Gus to take her to the doctor and he responded that he would only do so if she called an advice nurse and that advice nurse thought medical intervention was needed so she leaves the room to call the nurse soon after he enters the room where she's making the call and asks her to put the phone on speaker she refuses and in response he attempts to grab her phone to put it on speaker himself she decides to tangle her phone in her hair so that grabbing the phone would also mean grabbing her hair she explains her thought process as challenging his resolve saying you're not going to touch it you're not going to touch me he still went to grabb the phone and while doing so managed to pull her hair once obviously it's not cool to grab your partner's phone but it's not domestic abuse which is what she's implying when you see people saying he pulled her hair it's not like he was yanking her hair in order to inflict pain it wasn't I'm Alex mode it seems like he grabbed her phone is he ever going to respond by the way how long has it been is he going to respond and her hair was pulled in the process because she ensured that would happen and this only happened once it's still bad I'm not defending him at all but in my opinion that story wasn't enough to call him physically abusive which I have seen people trying to argue and even if you think it is a physically abusive act according to the Oxford dictionary for someone to be classified abusive they have to be engaging in or characterized by habitual violence and cruelty even further the Washington State Department of Social I mean regardless obviously people would say that definition is not all- encompassing because if you punch a girl in the head once even if you don't do it habitually if you do it once people would say that's abuse thankfully the second heal service definition does show physical abuses intentional bodily injury slapping pinching choking kicking shoving or inappropriately using drugs or physical restraint so this clarifies it but that first definition wasn't all-encompassing in my opinion is states that for an act to be considered physically abusive the harm to one's body has to be intentional which in this case it wasn't even by Sabrina's own story and yeah intentional or there has to be a reasonable expectation that by doing what you're doing there will be physical harm which it doesn't seem like in that case there is that at all also she's basically saying she baited him you're not going to touch me I mean yeah he's still responsible for his actions and you can absolutely argue the problematic element of him wanting to listen to her phone call but this anecdote to me is nowhere near enough to call him physically abusive and she was trying to like in my YouTube AI told me Boogie has ball cancer can anyone confirm you should always trust AI it's always telling the truth opinion imply it and try to hint that he was but only give this story and not state that anything like this ever happened again and look typically I wouldn't overanalyze someone that's being called abusive I'd usually just say hey screw that person but in The Ledger context of the situation including what I would call a clearly demonstrated agenda of being misleading demonstrated by Sabrina and the fact that this all took place almost four years ago three of which was them yeah I mean can we even trust her on that situation still in a relationship I do think these definitions matter anyway on to the next thing Sabrina stated that Gus expresses anger differently than her and he would at times raise his voice during arguments while she would attempt to disengage weirdly enough despite her I mean that's not nice but yelling is not abuse it's just not I'm sorry they clearly trying to imply that Gus was verbally and perhaps physically abusive throughout their relationship she provides no specific instances of abusive Behavior except for what I was just talking about everything else is really just implied with statements like I wouldn't yell and this is it she has to talk in vages because she knows that if she's actually held down in these allegations she will look R I'm not the one who does that and like what does yelling mean like does he raise his voice like this or does if you hit someone you're in some sort of domestic relationship it's abuse if your ex-girlfriend Keys your car and you hit her it's assault but not domestic violence legally speaking I think that's probably true um yeah she scream in her ear like yelling or raising your voice that means a lot of different things and I'm going to talk about the specifics that she did go into but it bothers me that we're still at the point where she's being vague and implying things instead of stating them out right we obviously cannot know for sure what happened in their relationship and people respond to things differently but even without the context of everything else in the situation so far it feels weird to me that she apparently feels cornered by her alleged abuser due to the weby interview yet she would only go into one story that could demonstrate the alleged abuse across a yearslong relationship like if you feel the need to respond to the people relationship details almost never need to be made public man relationships are complicated and they're not meant to be seen by thousands of prying eyes okay if you're a victim of physical you know assault or sexual assault or something along those lines is super serious and a criminal action should that be made public arguably yes after you've gone to the police and I would say the reason why is to prevent more victims okay um but generally speaking does it need to be made public if it's anything below that I would say no nope nope nope well calling you into question respond don't kind of just do whatever this was basically I don't get what this stream was meant to do other than say he grabbed her phone once 3 years ago okay good to know anyway now that we're done with the content of her stream I want to discuss the messaging of it because there were a lot of things that were said during the stream that I personally found to be misleading or hypocritical and you're going to say Jimmy why aren't you doing that for Gus that's not cool how can you talk about integrity when you have none yourself well I'm not really going to go after Gus as much because one almost everything that he stated happened happened behind closed doors and therefore I can't really comment on it and two he's been pretty direct like there haven't been a lot of contradictions in his story which I've been looking for this whole time on the other hand a lot of what Sabrina talked about are either things that we saw in the public eye or were just framed in a really really specific way that really stood out to me but fine here's everything that Gus did that I think could be all right Gus is misleading statement considered misleading across the six months misidentifying couples coaching as couple's therapy I mean that's so minor though like this is pedantic it's good to clarify it anyway but like this is so pedantic but we don't know if that was intentional keeping in a clip of him and his mother crying in one of his videos something Sabrina also did I mean I just personally think I mean that is gay but is that related to the situation it doesn't look like it is that's just unrelated right crying in an edited video during a situation like this is incredibly manipulative since you have the choice to edit that out but instead you choose not to because she also chose to have a sponsorship on the video from fabulous lifestyle tracker want people to resonate with your emotional response I guess and yeah it's obviously fair to say that Gus's motives for the wubby interview were self- serving given the context but like what's wrong with that if somebody's making false allegations against you or there's things you need to clear up at the very least why does it not make sense to talk about that publicly it's not always a bad thing to be self- serving is he supposed to like agree with her mischaracterizations and the fact that she like came for his career the fact that she made this public the fact she made this public and the fact that she made this public in the first place which she didn't even complain about is he supposed to just agree with that all of everything that happened you realize if you make it public allegations Sabrina people can talk about it and like disagree right like they can do that that's normal I'm not calling that wrong or immoral but it clearly was for personal gain but even then Sabrina has made tons of statements about personal gain is just to prevent personal loss more Gus while he hasn't really made any about her so I don't really have a problem with him wanting to say his peace when he feels as though he's being unfairly portrayed I don't I don't know anyway misleading statements from Sabrina's stream and a lot of this can easily be summarized in one sentence Sabrina will say one thing that makes Gus look bad but then make a completely contradictory statement that makes her look good and then she just I guess hopes that you don't notice she's contradicting herself I've already discussed a few examples of this if you want to pause the review but let's go one she complains about being harassed with false claims while she encourages the same to his gust this whole time I'd say that's a substantiated claim two she kept she said keep my name out of your mouth despite making more statements and liking dozens of critical statements a at Gus so y that's definitely verified by true American Patriots and three she says the strangers are not entitled to knowing every detail of her life but she added several details about guses that's very true also right like you reveal the information in the first place obviously people are going to ask questions you don't get to just uncritically say something like that go over some more examples so people have accused Gus of preventing Sabrina from confiding in her family during her pregnancy in an abusive show of power these are accusations that Sabrina has confirmed by publicly liking them on Twitter however she says in her original video that she didn't talk to her family because they would be judgmental and in this stream she she even elaborated further she stated that she chose not to say anything because she wanted to protect Gus here are some clips another thing that was mentioned was that um I had the choice in whether to tell my family and that's true to some extent I could not tell my family because I I wanted to protect him I wanted but that that's your choice though you could have told them if you wanted he didn't prevent you why would you even like a tweet saying that he was preventing you when he wasn't here you say again it's your choice like off to protect my boyfriend's reputation because also with family you know people talk and it could spread and I didn't want it to spread to the wrong people and spread to the internet and I didn't want people we didn't want people but you did want it to spread later to find out he didn't want people to certainly find out so you know that was why she's evil I mean she's not evil she's just like manipulative scorned misguided and a liar call that what you want maybe that's evil I don't know was kept a secret yeah he said that I had the choice to tell my family and talk about it you did you just didn't want to deal with the consequences as a result you always have a choice in the words of Harvey Spectre you always have a choice okay when you're backed up against the wall break the wall down Sabrina did I really yes you did you can't say someone forced you into something that you chose to do so she said or confirmed something that implies that Gus is abusive only to contradict it and say that she only made the choice to protect him which makes her look better right in other words and this is the first time I'm going to say this during the whole ordeal she lied not was misleading not was you know being playing with the truth she outright lied she confirmed accusations that she knew were not true so she lied and yes this is a problem the problem I've been having all along that a lot of people don't want to acknowledge in my opinion if your partner is abusive you shouldn't have to rely on misleading statements half truths and outright lies you don't need to at all you don't need to at all and it totally calls into question her credibility and everything else she says when she tells One Lie especially a big one is in order to affect their reputation also that clip illustrates something that in my opinion really demonstrates what Sabrina's intentions have been from the start does anyone else find it weird that this whole experience is Sabrina just sharing her truth it is about her sharing her experiences it is not about spiting any individual yet whenever Gus failed her during these events no matter how minor she'll emphasize what he did she'll allude to more things happening but not actually talk about it she'll fixate on it and make sure you know exactly how wrong it is and how much it hurt her yet whenever she talks about the serious ways that her family has dropped the ball in these situations she reminds me of Ana honestly she moves on like it's nothing and at some of these points her family screwed her way worse than Gus did let me in the hospital explain now if you remember the clip I played before when she was about to undergo her procedure to remove the ectopic pregnancy she was literally facing death and yet still lied to her own mother and sister and told them not to come to the hospital because she didn't want to deal with that judgment so that is how she views her family people that are supposed to take care of her that when she is inches away from Death they are going to focus on judging her as opposed to helping her yet the fact that these people are damn near monstrous apparently he why don't you make a video about your family she'll just kind of why don't you expose your mom be like Fallen chungus expose your your aunt rush it off and not really mention it but oh Gus didn't want to be judged by them cool mint says women being emotional and manipulative I can't believe it okay that's funny to joke about but uh women in general are not like this the average woman you meet like this the average woman you meet is not like abalina Sabrina most girls are cool they're not going to Fu you over like this they're not going to make an allegation about you on Twitter or a YouTube channel okay no women hate okay it's funny to say women suck but I'm a feminist I'm not going to stand for the unabashed women hate okay there are cool girls out there okay it's easy to get blackpilled by bad experiences with girls but not all women are like this okay got to be fair that's the problem even though he never said she couldn't tell them she made that choice because she didn't trust her own mother and sister yet it's a bad girls are based I mean not all girls are based some some aren't but some are based hey Tom instead of poop maxing you goon Max you don't know what I Max in my private time I could be maxing out anything literally anything you have no idea reflection on Gus or how about the aftermath of her rhinoplasty for those of you who don't know Sabrina got a nose job and after that nose job Sabrina's mother was supposed to stay with her and take care of her during her recovery however Jesus the mother left after just the first day her mother literally abandoned her and if that sounds extreme on multiple instances Sabrina has equated the minor cosmetic procedure the nose job to the life or death procedure she faced 3 years ago she has equated them re how do you explain how you treated her during her rhinoplastic Gus dude I don't expect anyone to come to the hospital if I get plastic surgery that's stupid when I get hair plugs am I supposed to expect my entire lineage to be there repeatedly so apparently it was so severe that she needed this level of care her own mother abandons her yet the problem is that Gus chose to work when he had work scheduled when all she had was essentially the equivalence of a broken nose really I don't know if it's just about her sharing her truth why is there such a big gap in her tone when talking about the ex-boyfriend that rejected her and her family who she has to see for the rest of her life in my opinion that difference speaks volumes the issue isn't a lack of evidence she doesn't have to prove that she was abused in order for me to say screw that guy but for me the issue is if I called Phoenix right he would I want my family by my side when I get my enlargement surgery yeah I always make sure my mom and dad are in the room when I jel have a field day with Sabrina um the whole gameplay of Phoenix right is um finding contradictions so she was Contra they're fun games I'm sorry let's go back to the point okay more objection I'm gay contradictions so Sabrina understands why Gus got frustrated me this guy he did his research good job Jimmy Robin the goat some may say the goat the aftermath of her procedure keep in mind she kind of just moved herself into him and his friend's apartment so she wouldn't have to be alone and I'm not criticizing her response to trauma but that was a legitimate strain on Gus's life yet she constantly scrutinizes every time he would get frustrated with her like it's find have a problem with what he did but it's weird to me to make yourself look better by saying you understand and it's reasonable but then make him look bad by scrutinizing actions from now almost four years ago like it's okay to just say this was unacceptable and sentence she also says it's messed up that Gus didn't reach out to her and handle this what's up Tom how's the stream going thoughts on the main Channel bit on Terry Davis I want to know what the story is I can't find any good vids I think that down the rabbit hole made a good vid but it's probably outdated and pretty short um I'll probably do a video on Temple OS at some point you should talk to this guy sometime yeah if he reaches out I'm down in the DMS when she made no effort to contact him either I think wubby tweeted at me one time about keeping things in the DMS and it's like my DMs are empty I already made my argument for this in a previous video but given the fact that she made a video exposing him and like dozens of hostile tweets towards him what the reasonable assumption be that just contacting her would be seen as a threat or somehow aggressive but no no no thanks Sabrina all abusers should contact their victims when their victims try to hold them accountable that is a great idea and I am sure victims of abuse everywhere love the ideas you're trying to normalize you're on a rooll here sabr also keep in mind she said nothing to Gus about this video before it went live so why does he have to handle this privately after she made it public and negatively affected his public also for anyone asking about main Channel vids uh the ones that are coming out this month at least they're both both really long like hours long so they're not going to be out like on a weekly basis for probably at least a month and a half or something um those videos will be posted I think by the end of this month I'm not going to reveal what they are but they are coming out but uh for other stuff uh for other videos in the future they there might be some shorter ones but I just want to see what happens when we post and see what happens because they're great videos M long uh I mean they're both like three hours plus I would say give a hint NOP public reputation what are you talking about she also says this huge statement I don't know when you when you're aware that somebody doesn't actually respect you as and see you as like a whole person that's a huge thing to say why do you feel like he didn't see you as a whole person though okay you explained that he was a horrible boyfriend during the medical ordeal in 2018 and you said that in 2021 he didn't take off work to wait on you hand and foot after you got a nose job there have been no accusations in between except he yelled sometimes which could mean a thousand different things so that's cool Co-op the language that victims of abuse use when telling their stories once your result in you being criticized but don't actually provide why you felt that way during a three-year relationship and before you say I'm nitpicking how can you make a statement like that not an opinion she stated that that is definitively how he feels yet she provided no reasoning from the last three years really like is that not such a huge leap from yeah he kind of sucked sometimes she then talks about coup's coaching and says without talking about the substance of those sessions as if she didn't out some of the details of those sessions already do you know the YouTuber decoy voice either way you guys should collab in some sort of way live will be sick he's a political L but basic common values as most as videos decoy voice how political is he decoy voice President Joe Biden when he's not doing that weird jaw clinch Mars attack speech thing that has his entire staff very concerned he's making appearances with what I hope is just a moris B on a suit which shouldn't be surprising as um I he seems fine I I don't know why I would specifically do a collab with him unless he asked me but um yeah he seems cool I don't know I don't know a lot about him so outing it out of context makes him look bad but saying you'd respect the sanctity of those sessions makes her look good so I guess she just gets to have it both ways and then to top it off there's this I made sure to hop on a stream and say I am not trying to cancel him speak Lou and the fact of the matter is you were fine with Gus being harassed for months when he never went after you you made the video three weeks after he refused to take you back which affected your lifestyle financially and mentally actions speak louder than words and you can't act like you the one to make the situation as hostile as it is you just didn't expect that hostility to be aimed at you at any point and look this is very touchy so I'm going to talk about it in detail in a moment but she also constantly goes back and forth between saying that Gus was forcing her to get an abortion and saying she was always going to get it and she wanted it like I said I don't get how you could force someone to do something they were always going to do I have problem with Gus's described actions around the abortion for sure and I'll talk about that but I don't understand how you can be forced to do something you wanted to do but that's all I'll say about her contradictions CU for now I have two things left to talk about the problem surrounding the discourse of this topic by large creators and my personal take top to bottom on on the whole situation and how I think they should have been handled because oh my I forgot that we started the segment by going over Nick is not Green's new video where he apologized I forgot this how this began I went down the rabbit hole Jesus Christ all right well guess we're going to get into Nick is not green and Mr beard now Lord only knows that's what this case is missing but first we got to talk about the worst boy band in history so the general discourse around this top has been really messy to say the least and how could it not be there's a lot of vagueness and contradicting statement and things of that nature not to mention huge creators saying things that are outright not true such as the fact that Gus Almost Got Sabrina killed which isn't true at all once again he never prevented her from seeking Medical Care at worst he didn't immediately take her to Medical Care when she had other options so of course the conversation around this is going to be really confusing so I want to talk about some of the loudest voices in this controversy and the reason I think they are doing more harm than good in the situation especially for Sabrina first though let's acknowledge the obvious don't be sexist and don't harass people your response to this video should not be to contact anyone involved in the situation that's not the point here Sabrina has faced more misogynistic comments and remarks than she should have to and she should have to face none and I haven't gotten much of those comments but just know if I see that then that person will be forever banned from commenting on my channel because I don't stand for that nonsense however one it's really easy for me to say sexism bad and two this is not even close to the majority of criticism for her that I've seen but I'll get to that so okay yeah but obviously with that kind of thing you know someone like Nick is not green in his prime or Ethan is online probably right now or Mr beard would probably be like all the criticism is for misogynist I've seen so so many misogynistic racist bigoted comments therefore all the criticism is bad hey that's one of the problems with the pro gust side what's the problem with the other side then well a lot of the people arguing that Gus is irredeemable and beyond having a career ever again are deploying really shallow and unhelpful tactics in order to look good and make it look like they're advocating for women's rights but don't actually do anything to make the situation better if you think about it for two seconds yeah I mean it's all it's all for clout right thanks for streaming for so long no problem that's my job for example a lot of the people including self who are criticizing Sabrina fall into one of three categories one they're sexist I mean again it's not a huge percentage but we got to acknowledge it two they don't think Gus's actions as described by Sabrina constitute abuse but at worst neglect and three they do think some of Gus's actions might constitute abuse but they don't think it's relevant because it happened over three years ago also Gustin Sabrina dated for three years after and she hasn't provided any accusations for the last three years that would be widely considered abusive and so unfortunately a lot of the big creators arguing in favor of Sabrina aren't actually arguing all they're doing is operating under the assumption that Sabrina has Beyond a doubt that Gus is an abuser and anybody who disagrees is either sexist or ableist or wants to enable an abuser or whatever they State opinions as facts make Hasty generalizations say stuff like oh trust me I know the full story you should cancel Gus because I said so but I won't give more information and that full story has nothing to do with things they actually witness themselves but rather what they were told by Sabrina But ultimately they do nothing but make statements that make them feel really good about themselves without actually contributing to the conversation here let's go over some examples now usually I don't make it a habit to call out multiple larger creators at once because there is always the risk that they Brigade me using their Lar your numbers as opposed to arguments but you really can't talk about the situation without talking about this so all of you shouldn't be worried about that though I mean that might happen but ultimately if you're telling the truth in the end people will see that you're telling the truth and that's all it will matter okay like obviously in the short term you call it a big Creator you might be brigaded you might get a bunch of criticism from them they might lie about you but ultimately the audience will eventually see the truth in these situations I think I have confidence in that it tends to come across that way um and you will be fine so don't be afraid of mean comments be afraid of being wrong be afraid of spreading misinformation and do your best to get that right ultimately a few people on you at the same time won't really matter you'll be fine the tweets I'm going to show you are from people that Sabrina is friends with and has publicly engaged with in the last year unless I say otherwise cool first I want to talk about a small example from Eddie burback now Eddie was Gus's comedy partner podcast co-host and best friend for years Eddie got ties with Gus after the situation went down and in response to this Eddie received a lot of undue hate from people who were basically telling Eddie how to feel despite whatever going down between Gus and Eddie not being public knowledge eventually Eddie made this comment on Reddit I'm not going to read the whole thing with one issue I have here is the fact that he just says Gus was awful to me without context like that could mean he was hurt about being lied to about the situation since 2018 or that Gus was an abusive friend I mean that's true he doesn't have to share details I guess I wish he would but I I guess he doesn't have to Eddie and look I get Eddie's in a real weird place here but like I said I don't like statements that leave things up to the imagination when you know what actually I I agree with what he's saying gussing people already under scrutiny he probably he probably should clarify what whatever went down between him and Gus if he's willing to support Sabrina's allegation at the very least and drop him as a friend right he was going to make an allegation he was awful to him should probably say why I don't think that's a crazy expectation so if Eddie was the victim of abusive actions by Gus and he said so then that would go a really long way to validating this not how you felt during the two mad drama well obviously I was upset but I still made the video right and I think I think the truth will come out in time with that stuff uh not going to overplay my hand here but I'm 1,00% sure at this point that James is a mentally ill delusional crazy person and I think that the truth will come out eventually about that but it's just not my place to do it right now but yeah um I think it will come out's claims but that is one criticism in a sea of Edie handling this way better than most people ever could so I have nothing else to say there because the bulk of the discourse I want to discuss surrounds three creators Ethan is online Nick is not green and Mr beard for transparency I have personally never heard of these people before this situation except for Mr beard on Tik Tok because well they're pretty big there that's insult or anything to anyone I just haven't seen their content personally but they're all pretty successful in their own right anyway let's check out this thread from Ethan that was retweeted and liked by a lot of the creators involved in the situation and easily demonstrates my problem here maybe if abusers referring to Gus are genuinely remorseful for the pain they've caused they would use every opportunity to Center the conversation around in reference to Ethan they say yeah he was crying about Alex Rosen because people call him a pedo to be clear even though Ethan is online was a part of the false allegations against super mega I don't think it's Justified to call him a file I don't think anyone should do that Ethan's online is not a file he's just just dumb and that's enough it's not cool to call him a he's not how hard it is to deal with their own consequences hm this is already false Gus made multiple statements during the aftermath of the situation where all he does is apologize and in response Sabrina escalated the situation by being in my opinion misleading on multiple occasions you can pause to read why I'm not explaining this again the first time Gus released anything that focused on his emotional state was him crying in a sketch four and a half months after this happened after he made multiple apologies is it fair to criticize Gus for keeping the crying or for doing the interview or for complaining a few times about the situation during dreams absolutely is it fair to criticize him I don't think it is fair at all dude but what I don't think it's fair to criticize him for talking about it I don't think that's real Gus Johnson situation is false I mean some of the stuff Sabrina said is true I just don't think it matters she did tell a few specific lies but I I just I don't think that the stuff that she did say that he admitted to is that bad I don't think it's abusive either I don't think anyone should care or that it's anyone's business what you're saying is straight up false neither of them has done all good here and neither has done all bad we have seen that with our own eyes so stop trying to tell people what they are seeing with their own eyes I promise you it doesn't convince anyone but oh now Ethan looks like he's passionate about the righteous cause good for you I mean you didn't change anyone's opinions or make the situation better for your friend nor did you try to but you look good congrats well Jimmy have you never heard of hyperbole you might say of course I have but when you were arguing that consequences should be brought on someone else specifically someone where where there are people who will believe anything you say about them yeah I have a problem with vagueness Hyperbole and contradicting statements if you're so sure of your arguments you shouldn't have to rely on those things it must suck so bad to be a bad person wow too bad there's no solution to this huh what's the solution Ethan this stuff happened four years ago since then he's gone to therapy to seek help not repeating his actions and I'm not talking the coaching versus therapy stuff I'm saying in his original video he stated he's been to individual therapy and his ex asked him to get back together and yet instead of trying to exhibit this apparent control he has over her by taking her back he turned her down in no uncertain terms and at no point does he attempt to Rally his significantly audience to go after her I'm genuinely asking here what is the more obvious solution other than allowing someone to share a narrative that you believe to be false the kind of audience that you get from appearing on a greasy little weasel stream to cry about how upset you are is exactly what you it's crazy for Ethan's online to call someone a greasy weasel okay this guy is in no position to call anyone out on their appearance at all hi we're done look at this guy he looks he looks strung out on fenel you should not be calling pay money weby a greasy weasel okay you're fat classy dude nothing says I'm on the righteous side like personal insults about one's character and appearance so let's review none of this attempted to convince new people of your argument instead you look really good got to insult people but how did this tweet make things better for Sabrina it is about Sabrina right not not your own ego right because in my opinion this just reads as ego now for our next offender Nick is not green is a commentary Creator who has worked with Gus around once in the past and his friends with Sabrina in response to Gus's interview Nick made a video that in my opinion is honestly one of the most ridiculously amateur commentary videos I have ever seen with zero concern for actually trying to make the situation better or actually inform the viewer about the situation I'm not going to do a play-by-play of his entire video because my video is already way longer than I want it to be but let's explain why I an amateur commentary Creator am calling him an amateur Nick's video States opinions as facts constantly he States the intention of other people as facts uses adjectives to objectively describe one's actions and uses the fact that he which is exactly what he did with super mega by the way and I still think by the way that Nick should be eventually forgiven if he genuinely changes his behavior I don't think he should hold it against forever but but it is still important to go over this and how we mishandled it to understand how we can avoid situations like this in the future detect red flags from unreliable narrators and be you know just aware of how things go because this will happen again false allegations exaggerated allegations mischaracterization misinformation will always happen Nick hasn't stopped his behavior I mean he stopped uploading I think he did stop his behavior he apologized for it like seven times knows the people involved to strengthen his opinion despite providing no perspective other than I was told these things by Sabrina and he provides ultimately no new information he also intentionally leaves details out of his recollection of events often to contribute to a certain narrative here are some highlights of what I mean when one person right after a breakup really just smears you like this besides the fact that Serena doesn't use Gus's name throughout her original video and her relationship with him was only a small but necessary part of the video that's intentionally misleading and you know it dude you're apparently trying to make this better for Sabrina your friend yet you're ignoring criticisms that even Mr beard has said are valid I'll get to Mr beard don't worry but she didn't say Gus's name but she confirmed his identity within 6 hours on multiple platforms she liked dozens of hostile directed at him and escalated the situation with misleading or vague or as Mr beard admitted cryptic statements on multiple occasions she did smear him and did use his name stop lying because if your side is right why do you need to lie about what we've seen for ourselves because their side is not right it's way more complicated than they want people to think are you kidding me hey here's another lie through all of this Sabrina has not gained subscribers let's look at the last year of her gaining subscribers on YouTube shall we so weird oob the thing is like even if she didn't gain subscribers like it does that mean that she's telling the truth she could have wanted to and it didn't happen at the very least I think it's clear that she wanted Gus to lose subscribers I think that's very clear but apparently here she did gain 10K Subs in a month Ober was her biggest month of the last 12 and her original video is her second most viewed video on YouTube ever and her second to ever break a million views and her lost more subscribers than she even has alongside multiple sources of income what do you cost him 300K Subs oh my God mean she gains nothing from the situation this is all publicly available dude are you kidding me if Sabrina was blatantly lying about Gus and her statements were inflammatory and aim to mischaracterize him why would he release two apologies validating Sabrina's feelings only to come back six months later and act like he has how does this relate to Nick well Nick basically covered the allegations back in the day and I'd say repeated what Sabrina said unsubstantiated even brought up stuff that she didn't even say in her original videos because he just assumes that she has good intentions right so that's how Nick cover the entire situation been misunderstood the whole time when everyone knows how these YouTube cancellations end the canceled Creator remains financially comfortable while the victim is bullied by the Creator's remaining yeah that's definitely what happen here fans until they leave the internet so the solution is that when someone makes a false allegation or a dubious allegation you ruin the other person's life that's what you do you just answered your own question bud maybe he wanted to reduce the harassment and not worsen the experience of her reliving her trauma I don't know if it is but that is a possible answer to your question Skeptics of Sabrina would ask why she waited so long to talk about her abusive relationship when she worked closely and was living with Gus and didn't want to speak out about someone who was still involved in her life at the time yet when Gus Waits 6 months to suddenly go against Sabrina's words for seemingly no other reason than to save his sad career to suddenly go against Sabrina's words is it that sudden like she made a public allegation he can respond what he wants we and his fans will accept it sad career once again like Nick is not green is a commentary channel the hubris he had at this point I I always love like Brad Brad tasted this to me too he did apologize you know but like this is always what these people do they're always like commentary channels are so sad you know that's what Brad's girl did or in the case of uh Nick is not green Gus Johnson's career was sad because he make skit videos or in the case of super mega super mega sad because they make Let's Play videos like dude you're drama YouTuber you're the bottom of the totem pole don't sit on a high horse okay you're corny you're all corny and praise him for being brave sure but a lot of people mostly check DM oh I saw that Nick yeah that's funny we we talked about that on stream Rose Malay I going to sneeze criticize calling him an abuser present tense for things that happened three years ago and criticize her for releasing the video right after she asked him to get back together and all of the time she was misleading about stuff that happened 3 years ago wait I'm sorry it's easier to generalize everyone who's criticizing her instead of acknowledging the valid criticism see this is how you get people to stop this is how you change their minds brilliant Gus repeatedly says that he was intimately involved in the situation but at the same time repeatedly distances himself from saying that he couldn't imagine what she was going through that's not a contradiction so I was hit by a car 10 years ago I'm not comparing that to her thing her thing is way more traumatic I didn't almost die but there were people that were involved in my entire physical recovery I had four fractured vertebrae I had to recover from and those people have no idea what that event did to me and I would be furious if anyone on this Earth claimed to know what what I was going through with that event proximity does not equate to expert knowledge as Nick is currently demonstrating for us also if Gus said that he understood what Sabrina was going through I have a really hard time believing that you wouldn't have criticized him for that too Gus will be very specific about the things he went through when he want sympathy and we'll talk in detail about what he feels and what he's gone through even lying about things that Sabrina said what did he lie about and why can he not talk about how he feels is that like illegal is that against the law to talk about how he feels like what what the are you talking about bless you thank you dude some people in public not even in public sorry not in public I don't want strangers to say it although they should I say bless you when someone sneezes but when I'm hanging out with people and I sneeze and nobody says bless you it's like dude you should die in m say bless you I just sneezed out a demon said or did in order to gain more sympathy but when he has the opportunity to be open and honest about what he did he refuses to be specific because he knows he can't get away with the horrific things he said or did to Sabrina dude I need whatever psychic you're using because they would make videos so much easier it also could be because going into detail about every accusation and providing context about things he feels were unfair would result in this being dragged out and Sabrina being harassed something you said should be a concern of his I'm not saying that was definitely Gus's goal but you can't State someone else's intention at best you could speculate and make an argument with evidence I have at no point have I stated Sabrina's intention rather I've said that her stated intention does not match her actions in my opinion see what I did there I talked about this last time with a different Creator but expressing opinions and speculations as facts does not convince anyone and it seems to just make you look foolish in the end Gus tweeted that after he canceled his tour Sabrina tweeted this as an attack towards him I I announced on Instagram that I had to cancel it to her and then without about an hour of that she she tweeted out that show biz baby um just an exclamation point on there and um I just not only does this in so many of Gus's complaints boil down to oh man she was being so mean to me but the Tweet had nothing to do with the tour according to Sabrina stop stating intentions as facts you are not an Insider about what happens inside of people's minds or really at all since it doesn't seem like you experienced anything firsthand you were just told stuff by one party also in post I realized there's one more thing I wanted to point out in this video that in my opinion illustrates the problems here really well so in Gus's interview he makes the claim that a lot of creators who were talking about the situation online were pretending that they had a relationship with Gus in order to strengthen their opinions to add validity to their opinions and in response to that Nick says this well I don't know if you can say that about me so the really funny thing here to me is that Nick literally does the thing that Gus criticizes creators of doing where he's saying like well no Gus you can't deny that I know you we work together once and I worked with your brother once two despite relying on the fact that Nick quote unquote knew Gus to strengthen his authority here Nick provides no unique perspective because he didn't actually know Gus that well it seems like Nick doesn't say yeah as a result of my friendship with Gus I learned why did why did Nick feel so entitled to talk about these situations and like weigh in and like cancel people is my question like if he was was doing his due diligence like obviously you could say the motivation is like to tell the truth about the situation and get it out there why does he feel the need to like be involved in all these situations in white night I really hate that [ __ ] I really hate it man this as a result of my friendship with Gus I saw this I witness this I noticed this it's literally just well I had a relationship with Gus okay anyway so this is what Sabrina said so with the exception of that last clip all of that happened just in the first 16 minutes of Nick's 45 minute long video and so much of the video is just criticizing did he ever is everybody El up did he ever remove it I'm curious did he specifically apologize for this one I don't remember if he did um okay so looks like he actually got rid of this video G Johnson's embarrassing energy so we got rid of that one so that's good that's actually quite good I like that YouTube should ban Nick is not green I don't agree with that ladies and gentlemen fast in your seat belts because today we are taking a quick drive through some YouTube drama I am so excited normally I don't talk about like other YouTube drama that doesn't pertain to me all right I don't care wubby which yeah sure you can criticize him as an interviewer or you can criticize his coverage of the situation but that really doesn't have much to do with guser Sabrina Beyond just saying it wasn't the right venue you see how quickly I was able to present that opinion add like two minutes a clips and you're done and I have more notes just from those 16 minutes but I think I made my point and already talked about this for way too long but in case you miss part of the bigger problem with Nick's videos that's like in contrast to this guy is like Nick would make a claim and not show evidence and when he would make a claim with evidence it would be like an unsub unsubstantiated rumor like with the Nick is not green video about um super mega the specifically the first one where he read the Reddit post out uncritically like that one's pretty bad that's my point you're not convincing anyone of anything when you rely on these tactics all you're doing is getting the people who already agree with you to say that they already agree with you it's not doing anything anyway let's move on to the star of our performance you ask me Mr beard is by far the most unhinged person in this whole situation they've made dozens of tweets about it constantly Mr beard he made the I'm fat video or whatever right he made a he made a fundraiser for his fat loss film or something you guys know what I'm talking about right let's see this oh yeah this this is goated I think we've seen enough not that that invalidates all of his opinions but that is the realm of YouTube we're in relied on personal insults over making points and have just embarrassed themselves at pretty much every possible turn but first who is Mr beard well they're a really big Tik tocker who might be friends with Sabrina oh it came from Tik Tok I didn't even know that no guys they might be like a close friend of hers no idea I I really wish that they would Enlighten us about this possibility because it is such a big question to leave unanswered that's not a little weird well thank God you talked to Sabrina if you talked to her that means she told the truth right doesn't come off is trying to insert yourself it's just me who thinks that okay Mr Beard's entire position on this seems to be that if you don't agree with Sabrina you're basically garbage and this position relies on completely misrepresenting the points of people that disagree with Mr beard or responding to the most insane criticisms of but IGN anyone who actually articulates their points well well if you think about it doesn't that kind of make it seem like everyone who's criticizing her is crazy or sexist since those are the only people he's responding to here's some example well yeah because that's how you get a point across you make it look like everybody who's responding to you is crazy everybody who thinks you're wrong is insane everybody who agrees with you well they're normal mentally healthy and cool hot take it is 100% fine for partners to publicly shame their exes for abusive Behavior it helps keep other people I don't think that it was abusive and I don't think it's cool to do that unless it's like a crime rising to a level of like something genuinely evil which what Gus did is not say from their exes and it makes abusers know that abusive actions actually have consequences I'm surprised how many people online disagree with this one Sabrina has never publicly used the word abuse to describe her experience so really classy defining her experience for her yeah guys don't talk over her Define her experience or put words not that Sabrina would have a problem with that because she wants people to think that Gus did everything if somebody said Gus Johnson Sabrina she'd probably like it in her mouth only her close personal friends can do that also this is a complete misrepresentation of the issue lots of people have with with Sabrina it is fine to out your partners for abuse and you do not need proof to do it but there is a way to do it that brings about the accountability we all should want without increasing the opportunity for people to lie about their experiences and make false accusations something Mr beard admitted does happen and that's not even to mention the fact that all of the problems she's describing were handled and forgiven in the context of the relationship so unless that was ongoing for 3 years I don't personally see why it's relevant anymore take the sky as Minecraft situation an ex-girlfriend accused Adam of abuse when you search Trisha Trisha pis oiled up at autofilled no it did not no it did not it did not autof fail you're full of [ __ ] thank you for the Dono but you're a liar wendon is just as bad as Nick is not green spreading misinformation and false accusations against me you're a piece of [ __ ] thank you for the 100 though very much I do appreciate that but you're a piece of [ __ ] you I'm still fishing you know exactly where I'm going fishing you know where I'm taking my rod I'm sticking the Nightcrawler directly into your anus Zin check think about Zin right now don't you want one I actually do I'm going to give myself a little break so I don't have to piss again I think the zins are making me piss or something honestly I also need to get some more water soon but I'm trying to avoid another piss break right now all right I want to see where Mr beard you know what I need to Z when you're right you're right if I throw up it's your fault um very curious to see how Mr beard responded to Jimmy Robbins how did Mr beard respond to Jimmy Robins we will find out next on gonar also the way that Mr beard interacts with smaller creators who disagree with them is really interesting I should know because they reached out to me like a coward so for those of you who don't know there are two ways that I'm notified about comments I receive on YouTube there's a hub where comments are generally stored and since I can get dozens of them on some days I don't get notifications about all of those comments but in addition there is a separate Hub that displays comments that YouTube thinks are particularly interesting and in my case as a small Channel it usually means it's a larger Creator and for those comments I do get a notification on both my lock screen and within YouTube's Channel management app YouTube Studios so shortly after my last video talking about the situation went live I received an interesting comment from Mr beard now for context in my last video I specifically called out commentary creators with no background in Psychology or social work for acting like professionals on abuse mental health or psychology in general expressing opinions is one thing but to Define someone else's traumatic experience with language that they have not used when you have no education that qualifies you to make such statements I don't know it's not cool if you ask me because many of your followers will just take your word especially as a commentary Creator because you're building a relationship of trust with your audience despite the fact that your opinions are no more valid than someone with an anime profile picture and I didn't really yeah I would agree I think playing uh there's a lot of YouTubers who will play like armchair ologist I don't think that's right I think you can glean it up from the situation with the facts without having to like pretend that you're Freud names in my last video to avoid prating but Mr beard was certainly the worst offender of all this and I was indirectly calling them out in particular see how many you can do it once no remember Mr beard is an accomplished Creator on YouTube they know how YouTube Studio Works they left a comment on my video saying dude by the way okay yesterday something traumatic happened I think abini Sabrina and Nick is not green should make videos about it I was taking a [ __ ] I finished my [ __ ] and I was I was wiping with a toilet paper and I was like man I wish I had a wet wipe right now because you know there's just a lot going on right now my ass hair is you know probably matted some dark stuff is happening okay so I look behind me on the toilet and oh what do you know there is some wet wipes I take one out I wipe my ass and I didn't read the label because on the label it said bleach wipes so my feel like don't taste me first for 5 to 10 minutes I had to get in the shower and wash my ass and I don't have I don't have like the detachable shower head so I was like on the ground with my ass pointed at the shower head trying to get the bleach out of my ass okay so I am traumatized and I'm I'm suing everyone involved abalina Sabrina made me do it all right wendon made me do it my my ass hurt so bad this not even the first time I've done it in my life okay I was so mad I almost put my foot through the drywall it hurt I literally put bleach inside of my rectum so I'm gay now quote this is a truly horrible video you need help so in response to me saying that they shouldn't act like a psychology expert when they aren't one they decided to make a definitive statement where they identify the state of my mental health come on you can't make this up no I woke up within an hour is Mr beard they them I didn't even know that I wasn't aware this comment and I was shocked to see they deleted it so only I would ever see this comment via the notification and it wouldn't make them look bad because the general public would never see it now it's my word against theirs so they got to leave their pointless hate comment but their reputation doesn't change man if only I took a screenshot of the notification G whiz that sure would have been a good idea over it's over Mr over wish I thought ahead there but it seems I've been outsmarted by a lamu you need help you need help tar truly I cannot any lower if you're not looking at your screen look at it for a you're fat Mr beard you're fat okay thank you Mr beard you are truly pathetic in my opinion you have done nothing but make the situation worse for Sabrina by presenting consecutive flawed arguments while trying and failing to gain validity due to your repeated claims of being Sabrina's close friend if you ask me you have not attempted to actually educate anyone on the situation but rather just try to appeal to the people who already agree with you in order to boost your own image and ego while making Sabrina look worse due to your demonstrated inability to maintain composure while engaging with the people critic izing her and with this comment either you knew I would receive the notification regardless of if you deleted the comment or with millions of followers you still don't know how to control yourself when using your platform either way you have done nothing but embarrass yourself and Sabrina your close friend because when people see you acting like a clown when representing Sabrina I can't see how that's going to do anything but reinforce their belief that she's in the wrong you could have I agree ultimately I think the situation could have been avoided in the first place by Sabrina never making the allegation public because her allegation which is basically you know at the worst of it that she had an ectopic pregnancy and he wasn't at the hospital when it happened you know was it shitty of him I guess it was kind of shitty he didn't know she had that at that point she had already made a bunch of hospital visits so should have been expected that he should know that that was going on I'd say no but it's good that he eventually showed up and he was there now the claim that he pressured her into getting an abortion is in my opinion really bad faith and the reason why it's bad faith is because they agreed beforehand that if she got pregnant she would abort it and when she got pregnant she then decided to change her mind you don't get to do that you don't you're you've signed the social contract you've said I'm getting the abortion was if he was really angry at her or demeaning was that wrong yeah probably I would say so but that need to be made public absolutely not avalina Sabrina is not a victim she's a victim of an ectopic pregnancy which sucks but that's not Gus's fault she's not a victim of him and never needed to be made public and frankly she deserved her Channel dying as a result of what she did and I don't feel bad for her that is the conclusion that I have drawn from this entire situation and I think that's the only conclusion you can draw [Music]