Tuesdays with Tyrell: John Cassaday salute & Batman

all right here we are let's try this again is this working uh hello check check that's weird let me see what's going on here folks all right let's try again hey hey okay now I can see myself I hope you guys can see me all right okay welcome welcome back two weeks in a row uh it must be school has started and I can think again um this week uh I I promised everybody a Batman because last week didn't quite turn out how I liked it and so I had a little extra time today after I finished some of my uh gig to uh to do another Batman so we're going to work on this Batman a little bit later tonight and I was trying to think of what I wanted to show off tonight from my collection I like to look at old stuff new stuff you know and of course I had heard the sad news about John cast today passing and um he had had had been one of my favorite artists at many different points and uh was a huge inspiration to me uh as as an artist and so I was like why don't I dig out some stuff uh from the long boxes and take a look at it I don't think we're going to be able to look at every single thing that I have of his cuz I have all of planetary and right there that's that's already a lot and I'm sure a lot of people have seen it but I thought we flip through a few uh talk about talk about what uh you know what I knew about or didn't know about John or you know his work um I did not know John personally so I don't know um you know anything about the details of his life and death outside of what I saw from him in interviews and and Convention times when I met him at conventions and stuff like that so I'll mostly be talking about his his work um the people who knew him better have probably been you know the people you should listen to about John himself um but you know for me big inspiration so I just you know personally I wanted to look through some of these I'm probably going to reread all of planetary um but I'm not going to show it all tonight you know I was getting out for myself and I was like why not let's take a look uh Bittersweet I know but um this was the book that that really uh I had never heard of John cassid until planetary came out and I think the first issue of planetary I bought was this one um and this one was even old when I bought it I when I was growing up around this time and around this time this came out was end of high school beginning at college and I did not have a comic book store very close to me where I lived in Colorado I I had to Drive about an hour BMC Comics by the way hello glad you're here anyway I didn't have a comic store uh close to me I've mentioned this before on past streams and um when I would go up there they would just kind of have a mish mash of stuff you know I mean if I wanted them to order me something they would but the rest of the stands were kind of just full of a mish mash of stuff that that other people had had ordered and I saw this cover and I was like whoa what is this uh this looks so cool and and so uh picked it up uh and then I ended up filling in more of the collection as time went on um if you've never read planetary I'm not going to spoil it all for you but it's kind of awesome it's like about fiction and the the people who kind of are the masters of different fictions and realities and how those intersect with reality um really cool characters um one thing I loved about John cassy's work was his character design work was really cool cuz he in a subtle way he would show the differences between the characters through kind of you know even just the cut of their outfits you know um and and the shape of their noses and sort of The Way They Carried themselves um this doc uh doc Samson type character here is pretty awesome and then when you would do superhero costumes they always had a really really cool graphic elements but then they were always like stripped down to the basics right I mean you you really just these are all different designs with like the most efficient use of of lines I think this stuff was really efficient but it was still able to evoke a lot um this is some of his earlier stuff though for sure and you know we we're not going to talk about Warren Ellis other than I think this is a great book that he wrote here um but this is issue one let's look through issue two and then I'm mayble I'll pick out a couple of the other ones I have and then I have a few other things I from my collection of of John C work I got the Batman planetary over here and I have some Captain America stuff um if you guys remember that um but this is so cool it's you know kind of like a Godzilla type thing and all these different covers if you if you if you're not aware of planetary all the different covers are sort of evoking the the type of fiction or genre that they're playing in for that issue cuz they each sort of zero in on these different um things and so this is kind of a Hong Kong action movie so it's got the widescreen feel this is an you know a Godzilla movie uh so it's got this sort of super low angle and the the text they change the text for the title on every issue which I think is awesome I know I don't think anyone would be brave enough to do that now everybody now one of the things I've always that's always bothered me how many times when I'm talking to you know I don't know companies and retailers they just want everything to be so clear and basic and and and I don't know I feel like you need to give the readers a little more um credit you know I mean if they're going to subscribe to something they're going to get it no matter what and if they're not going to subscribe to it having a different cover every month might actually help people pick it up because it's not it's not something they can just glaze over every every week um anyway that's neither here nor there but it's something I really liked about the series and something that uh cass's covers really convey um he always had really cool textures on things this big kind of spread of a Mothra type uh creature and again like so efficient right you got this silhouette up here in the front no details at all just a silhouette and then all this great texture back here you know to kind of give it some scale like just to those two things together give it scale and he's not even using a a super like crazy perspective this is just a pretty far back fairly isometric angle he probably didn't even draw a grid for it I would imagine and it totally works you totally get the scale it's very very brave and cool his page designs were always amazing they are still this is cool these little guys down here all this big stuff I hope there's some Cassidy fans out there uh if there's not uh if you if you have haven't checked them out I mean look at this you got to check that out they're walking inside of this big monster it's so cool man oh the smoke I mean anybody who's seen all the smoke I draw knows that this stuff kind of had an effect on me I love drawing Smokey kind of impact points and stuff and this was really neat because it felt it feels very American and maybe slightly you know you can maybe say European to a little bit in the execution but it has these touches are a little more um either cartoony or Manga inspired motion lines and whatnot pretty cool um there was a number of years that I was going to San Diego ComicCon as a as an attendee for maybe four or five years in a row I had some friends uh that were kind enough to get me free pass every year sometimes it would be a book seller person but they were all and sometimes it' be my other friend who's the one who got me the connection I I my friend Jenny uh at the time my friend Jenny Goldberg uh I worked for her dad for a little bit but I met her at school and she uh always was able to hook me up with some tickets almost every year I think I bought a ticket one year and another year I went with my cousin who worked in TV and back then it was a lot easier to get Pro badges so um I would go all the time and and one year there was a a panel with uh John cassaday and I can't remember who else it was like a an artist Centric panel and this has always stuck with me I've said this to a bunch of people um gosh look at this he just immediately this is the Hong Kong action movie um one and immediately goes to this wide screen this harsher sense of lighting these all center Shot uh kind of wide center Shot action pieces I mean this is so cool he does ink washes on it he was always changing up his his methods in the different issues like dry brushing and ink washes and um really cool stuff oh man and so basically this ghost as the car drives through the ghost he's like blasting these dudes so awesome so awesome just really well staged action here completely evocative of Hong Kong Cinema without being directly you know tracings and stuff you know it's it's it's definitely you can see what he's referencing but it's not so overt or or lazy that it doesn't work on its own this bullet that takes that can turn that's another cool trick what great what a great uh Direction Through the page here man that's really nice anyway as I was saying I went to this panel with John cassid day and he was super cool like uh I mean on the panel at least he was like really cool really nice and there was like a Q&A and one of the uh questions was something like how did you you know I'm an artist I'm trying to be an artist and I want to develop a style how did you develop your style and John said something to the effect of um you know I just try to draw my best and try to draw like all the people that I like you know the artists that inspire me and whatever comes out of me trying to do that cuz I fail you know he's like you just you try to do that but you never can draw Like Your Heroes and so as you fail you sort of that's where your style starts to come forth you know like the things you you can't do the way someone else did even though you you are inspired by it and I thought that was a really cool answer because I think I've heard a lot of people when they're starting to be artists say they want to develop their style and it's like man you just got to try to focus on getting the work done and in my opinion it's similar to what John was saying like you just you develop it by doing it right you start to feel which ways feel the best for you and and and which things are most interesting to you to do and what tools you prefer to use and your style sort of emerges out of that it's not it's not like I mean you could decide what your style is going to be and stick to that but that seems really boring to me like oh here's my style also no matter how much you define your style you're still going to have to learn how to draw everything and then drawing it in that style becomes a challenge so if you just try to draw everything your best your style is going to be whatever comes out really good acting here his characters are great acting and like I said he maintains this this ghost as sort of an ink wash and everyone else is in solid inks this is 100% something I've stolen right here this is straight up daro type stuff you know uh this character is awesome she's got superpowers and vulnerability and stuff um really cool really really cool that he he could go from what you saw in that first issue to this issue um let me try to find another one here we'll skip ahead a little bit I don't want to go through every single issue but uh let's see this was another one that was like one of the first ones I bought I think this issue was out when I bought that number two or something and so I bought like a current issue and a back issue I don't know if my chat what's up my chat well one of you says you're here so I'll assume that it's working um this one has crazy colors I'm not sure what the camera's going to do with this issue but look at this man this kind of pulpy Heavy Metal magazine just sat you know just saturated like cyan Kind of Blue this is really cool man um this image like got me like as soon as I opened this one and then the way the title cuts into it wow and then just look at the design of this ship you know it's something out of a sorry my daughter is in the other room sleeping I hope so I'm listening for but look at these Silhouettes here this is great this sort of secret mission the colors on this are great too they're by uh I think it's decoy oh no this is Mike Heisler David Baron Mike Heisler John Layman H okay uh heisler's pretty good oh man and then they show up Ambrose chase this guy was awesome he can like deflect bullets he's kind of like matrixyl sci-fi look at this total again daro Matrix kind of a Vibe this is only a couple years after that really so but just the sheer sort of um inventiveness to some of the action and the way he chooses to depict it is really cool running up this uh pipe he can sort of manipulate gravity and then these pauses here crash lines bullets he's like in the air this is all like a moment spoilers he gets shot here great stuff let's pull out one of the later ones and then maybe take a peek at a Captain America Jordan says he loves that opening page Eli hey Eli cool bullet effect yeah definitely definitely likes uh daro scross and like a few other guys do that kind of stuff maybe uh what that guy's name Jose Juan reap that guy's crazy all right and one thing that was also interesting about planetary is that um there was a lot of space between the different issues like it it seemed like it was really delayed and I don't know if that was because the art the writing or they were on other projects I you know I don't remember what the full story was but um again like here we are with a completely other it's almost like a uh of course I went to another this is is almost like a Hong Kong horror film or an old horror film look to it I probably should have pulled a different one because this one has some similarities to the other one but you could see Jon level up so this is obviously referencing some Crouching Tiger action which was again very big at the time but executed really well I love all these Fabrics the way the Fabrics Trail around he used a different type of uh sort of Storytelling in this where um him and Warren that that there's like almost a completely silent issue on this first half of it and then I think at the end there's a little more yeah that's when they get into more of the explanatory stuff but these could not come fast enough man when when I was man when I was uh when I finally knew about this book it's about a time that it started slowing down and when it came out um but I was always so stoked to get every issue oh man I can't even remember some of these I'm definitely rading all of this here we go let's take a look at this one this one has this great sort of uh alons MCA type uh type cover here oh yeah hey there Jeremy hope well everything is well with you as well um that was a little redundant but here's this one this has got to be years later uh there there was a bunch of pauses between this but in here at this point you can see uh his work gets a little more precise I feel like he started using some different types of pens and there's like little bits of hatching and stuff stuff that maybe was a little looser in his earlier stuff still great storytelling good character acting like their facial expressions the the body language um but as you can see this one almost has a completely different feel than the other ones as far as the the subject matter this stuff has a little more of a clean line look too at points almost like a mobus kind of a line um it's kind of thin maybe he's using a liner pen or a dip pen I honestly don't know what he was using I can see it being a like a quill pen is what it looks like I don't know that I've seen a lot of his stuff in real life either honestly like a sometimes you can catch a couple binders that'll have some some stuff I might have seen a few of his X-Men Pages which is an era I didn't actually buy a lot of his work from I think a lot of people did like that era though but yeah there's a pretty rad cover okay uh oh boy there is a lot of planetaries dudes let's get a couple of these caps and then we will uh we'll work on this Batman cuz I I'd like to like to get it rolling here um so this is like post 911 I didn't even think about that so not only did John pass but tomorrow is 911 and a lot of the stuff Marvel was doing right after uh 911 was understandably sort of patriotic type things like old school Captain America sort of uh pasted on to the the current issues um and you know I haven't read it in a while so I don't know how well it ages so I can't really speak to that but I can speak to just what the visuals look like which I have not opened this buddy up in a minute so you can even see right from the beginning here airplane box cutter but again with the efficiency right this is really smart I got to do this because a lot of times you'll get a a request in a script to draw like a uh a crowd scene and I got I've gotten a lot of these lately and you're like well if I just show the crowd from behind you know I'm just drawing the backs of a bunch of people's heads and he not only does that but he puts seats in front of him so instead of like uh showing all their faces but honestly this works a lot better because there's an anonymity to it which is really really neat but this is going to be this is very rah rah I know you know um but the artwork here these little splashes you started doing and I believe he's still working mostly um that's a photo bash right there I was going to say he's working mostly traditional that's probably put in um in uh after you know digitally he almost has a colors have I don't know if it's him or the colors have this uh it's like an ink wash maybe that maybe he's doing that digitally or maybe he's actually doing washes on these he might be doing actual washes on them man oh man this is oh boy Spider-Man coming out I really like these he does these in and a couple other things these super long um two-page spread panels I think those are great um I've done similar things to that in a few books I really enjoy that format it it it it's a fun one to work in it plays with time a lot differently and gives it a good sense of scale I remember getting this issue and just thinking man he has gotten so good at just the rendering and the the finish his finish really got tight at this point in time it really feels like a lot of energy was put into these pages and that's a great shot that's a really great Captain America shot it's hard to see some of the details in my really horrible camera setup here but one of the things that people think of when they think of Jon's art is the way he would draw Captain America's uh um chain mail kind of top um maybe I can show it better on a different one but um he had a really cool way of drawing it where he drew like every little individual little Link in it which was crazy I don't know his stuff has a lot of weight and a lot of realism even though a lot of it's super fantastic you can kind of see it that's sort of the way he drew it which was pretty cool like old armor but anyway um let's look at one more cap let's look at one more cap let's check him with the chat here dang psychedelic cover where was I when these were coming out well Jordan uh Jordan Bulma I'm not sure how old you are but that might have been where you were at because these came out uh planetary was out in like late '90s through the two 2000s I mean it like I said it had a lot of delays so it was a one that would pop up and if you had never heard of it before it might be weird to pick one up but um well worth picking up it's it's a really great book if there's a collected version I think there is you should absolutely get it I think there's an absolute planetary I think um Jeremy Su Eli Eli gives this really great graphite looking effect yeah yeah graphite that's a good way to put it oh you know what I think he was using a pencil to shave now that I think about it because there was a couple guys doing at that at this time and he was one of them he he he would like do ink drawings pencil shading on him uh Addie granov did a similar thing um there's probably few other people I don't know if Middleton ever did that it was an interesting time I feel like draftsmanship um was really highly valued in the mainstream Comics at this time I think it's a little different now but I think classic draftsmanship as far as like you know control of the medium and finish was like super important I feel like in the line art at least I'm not say thing it's completely not now but caday is a is a is a a topend guy in regards to some of that stuff but there's a hundred other guys that at this time that were also just technically like so incredibly proficient and um the original art at the time was really amazing and there's guys now that are doing that uh but I feel like by and large um the craftsmanship has changed quite a bit so cap fighting some more terrorists here they've wired up a church uh with giant trip mines I guess um it's pretty uh like I said it's pretty raw RW but the art is um is cool and hey why not you know I mean the time in the place might have dictated it it was a strange time this is cool um so back here I don't know if he did this with the r rer blade or what but this tiny drawing of cap in the rain right here there's like a wiggle and I know it's so small you probably can't see it and it's almost like um it's almost like he's fuzzy because of the rain coming in front of him and it's such a cool effect and I'm not sure exactly how he pulled it off it might just be he just scribbled on it with a white out and then when you when you bump the levels up it it goes I don't know I thought this right fight in the rain here is so cool the first time I got this yeah I think he's probably just scribbling back into it or using a a china marker or something so it's a little more crumbly you were alive in the 90s okay good man that's so cool I thought that was just a great image this cap stuff here has a lot lot of drama to it I mean obviously it's big drama but the art it matches it so well and it it's it's almost like I said it it's it almost leans a little more into realism than than a lot of other superhero type books and at the time I think that that that it was like this weird mix of sort of realism but with a high level of draftsmanship but now I think realism and and brevity seem to be the most important things in a lot of superhero comics as far as like get it as simple as possible oh man and then he does this flip off of the mine Explosion it's such a cool sequence here there's that fuzziness again that's really cool yeah good stuff good stuff well I'm I'm glad we we got to share the Earth uh at the same time that John was making Comics because uh you know what are the odds and it's pretty cool so cheers to you John all right so hopefully I don't fail this week I mean I think if nothing else uh you know maybe I'm just not a Batman guy but I really didn't like what I did last week it was okay if anybody likes it let me know I will just give it to you um and I I I didn't hate it it just was not what had in mind and so I just tried to go in a different direction with this one and uh I don't know hopefully it's cool I'll try to do a cool uh some cool inks on it um I'm working on A4 size paper um this is the deleter the deleter brand paper which I've been using lately on this last project I've been working on here's some sketches I did today just trying to figure it out just drawn some stuff and then um I did this um just on computer paper while I was I was talking to some friends on the phone and I did this this drawing while I was on the phone and so I transferred to this and I don't know if I'm going to do a city I don't know if I'm feeling that tonight we'll see I just kind of want to get nice some nice bold inks down because I've been working on a different project on thumbnails lately and I haven't been inking and so I just and but tomorrow I'm I'm going to get back into some paperwork like drawing on paper so I would really like to kind of get just some looseness here so my goal tonight is to have fun do a little loose ink job on this Batman uh no not put more detail than is needed on him um sort of take a lesson out of John's book on some of that and just kind of you know focus on on the the most important parts and sort of uh let the rest of it be what it needs to be so obviously this is maybe looking kind of chunky because this is I'm pretty stoked for this new Dr Batman book this absolute unit Batman um like I don't like Batman really but um I mean I I mean I don't like hate Batman but I don't read a lot of Batman books but I really love dr's work so I'm very stoked for it and so I thought I would give give a shot at doing sort of the that style and I've been wanting to do some sort of angular stuff and I'm not sure exactly what that means but just like a little more geometric today maybe but yeah I still actually I'm stoked for dr's Batman but I haven't actually put it on my pole yet I just got reminded of that today because uh tomorrow's Wednesday and I was looking at my Challengers Comics uh email where they told me I have a new issue of precious metal waiting for me I believe I don't think I'll get over there tomorrow unfortunately great shop though so I went with a beefy bat here kind of a beefy bat youi these shots are insane yeah they were man it's it's a crazy book going have to check that out looks like an incredible read Jeremy rest in peace Jordan love that ear length heck yes man I grew up in the Kelly Jones era man so has a cool narrative feel to it thanks Eli for we're going quick that's what we're doing tonight buff Batman that's right Jim I think I have like maybe I don't know four or five Batman comics I don't have very many and like that's like one of them is Batman vers predator and then I've got that magnola Batman one that he did uh what's it called sanctum I think it is mostly artist stuff you know there's some I wish I did have though I um like I don't have Gotham by Gaslight and I don't have I'd like some of those early um I used to own a bunch of those Legends of the Dark Knight that original running Legends of the Dark Knight and that had some really cool stuff in it and some cool art but um I don't know I lost them or got rid of them or I don't know what I did with them might have traded them we used to trade Comics all the time when I was a kid you know you get like an X-Men for a Captain America or whatever with some other guy that's a fan of some character I remember getting a Kelly Jones Batman hard cover collection for my birthday one year I appreciate the art in it more and more every passing year yeah Jordan you're right well you know I kicking myself Kelly Jones just did that didn't he just do that Dracula thing that was on Kickstarter or something and I did not get it and I really should have I just at the the time he was running it I think unless I'm mistaken I think it's already done but at the time he was running it I was just man there's Dire Straits over here dudes I just I had no money to be spending on on Kelly Jones book you know it was like a hundred bucks or whatever but now in retrospect I'm like dang this is cool this is cool I think I'm I think I'm okay with this one so far knock on wood yeah um drat stuff has a a sort of um I don't know I really he really feels unique to me like his style feels unique even amongst you know his peers and and the other people around I feel like I have a harder time drawing a direct sort of line from somebody else to him as as easily as I can with some other artist I mean artists I like right but his stuff feels so unique and so different and um I really enjoy what he's able to do his characters have this uh solidness to them but they still feel like agile is the way I would describe a lot of the way he draws things feel agile and feel in motion almost like watching an animated film or something and he has really cool character designs I know some people are going to complain about this kind of design that he did here but it's awesome it's so cool because again just like I was talking about with Cass it just strips it down to like what is necessary for Batman and what can we do to just make him look a little more like you know like a little more of like a beefy dude and they just he just chunked everything out gave them like ninja bands you know and some armor it's like picking shoes from all the good stuff that's worked before it's really cool anyway I'm a fan and so maybe it'll make me a Batman guy who knows I don't think Batman needs like a whole lot more fans though really no offense to Batman fans but it's uh you know Batman connects with a lot of people for some reason you know Kelly Jones Batman as a gift it was the one who took down the no face serial killer huh I've not seen that one too many crazy kickstarters out there well when I do my Kickstarter I expect you all to show up for me it is coming soon um hopping on the Alex Ross Kickstarter for Kingdom Come Oh yeah I forgot they were doing that that sounds pretty cool you know that's the kind of thing where you know you get a little more knowledge out of it something you like Jeremy Batman is good he's done well he has done well that's true okay keep the energy up here I'm trying to put some uh good areas of black in here I'm actually hoping to have a lot of space used up with with black so I'm kind of inching my way towards it and we'll see if I go too far um there was this one piece that Dr did I think for to promote this uh and it it was just it's just amazing how much he gets away with not going or you know not drawing I mean it's all there right it's in the drawing but he just reduces things down to these really kind of cool shapes and sort of uh elements that work I really love it [Music] so I hope you guys uh speaking of cool books coming out I hope you guys have all pre-ordered some books that I'm excited for that my friends are working on uh like Ryan Stegman and uh Jason Howard's new book um missionary the missionary it's going to be awesome I've seen it it's rad or Ryan Lee's book goobers that one looks insane if you have not checked out the previews for goobers it's crazy it's uh it's Ryan doing like little goobers you know like monster looking guys and he's he's so good at it um that one is awesome and then of course uh Dan and Riley's new book uh the Moon is following us I think the FOC for a lot of these is either here or very soon so if you have not pre-ordered them yet get them on your list get them on your list uh Nick's Batman stuff also has this like crazy Cape it's like kind of like in pieces and I don't know exactly how it's supposed to work so I just kind of made it up but um I like that he also kind of plays with the unre you know the unreality of It kind of like McFarland used to do with capes where it's not um it's not like a real Cape but it sure looks cool you know okay okay all right I'm into it I think you could use more black I think we're going to get rid of a lot down here oh yeah we should do is bands first see how that feels we're just going to do them solid black dude anybody else drawn tonight you guys drawn out there oh yeah oh yeah there's two of him on Wolverine's mask there you go I like that one Eli brutalist architecture yeah yeah for sure the Moon is following us to your poll Jordan says uh he he announced it or second they announced it he added it yep definitely oh good Jeremy's drawn glad you added it I'm glad you were already excited for it it's good to hear it doesn't surprise me I mean we're talking two of the best guys out there right now Dan Riley two of the best guys in the biz and I'll tell you guys I have seen the pages and oh mama I I they're so cool man it's so cool it's so cool the two of them working on pages together it's so cool it's just like oh what a great idea you know I wish I had done it I wish I had like split pages with somebody like that it's really fun idea I was supposed to do that with my friend Landis we've been talking about it for years but we keep getting sidetracked with other things uh Landis and I were going to do a little split comic but it is so cool to see two people sort of ripping on each other's work and expanding it and sort of uh you know finding complimentary ways to work together it's really exciting stuff I think so but I'm a big nerd so we're just going to black out this cape too I think y'all and I think I'm just going to Black this whole business out here too I maybe just keep a couple Dots here for now fix that later if I want all right think that's working okay yeah this is kind of something yeah this paper is um I don't know if I talked about it before but it's it's kind of cool paper it um it's extremely flimsy and it will hold a crease so you got to be careful not to bend it because it will hold creases uh but it's so cheap it really loves the ink you know it soaks it up pretty good and you can get a smooth line with most tools especially these these like uh refillable pens and stuff and it erases really easily like I said it is a little uh flimsier so you can't press as hard so if you're a hard presser this might not be good paper for you um but it is uh pretty like pretty smooth to draw on I've been enjoying it but honestly if you're a hard presser you should try it so that it maybe will make you stop I've been trying to lighten up my hand for years and it not only because I feel like it makes the work hopefully better but uh it makes me not be in so much pain all the time whereas when I was like death grip on my pen and my pencil uh man my hand would be crampy up all the time all the time all right we're getting there okay I don't want to over render this so I'm trying to fight that urge it's a strong urge in me I do want just like a little bit more some texture here in the building I might throw some zips on this if you could have guessed I've got quite a few commissions to do which I'm hoping to dig into soon um and I'm excited to use all these uh ZIP tones I just got recently I hav't hav't been able to use most of them yet because I I was going to use them on the project I'm working on but it just the number of pages it just got to be a little unfeasible to do it on paper um so I'm doing sort of a digital tone thing with that but um yeah anyway excited to dig into those for some commission work okay let's pull a pen out here uh let's see Jeremy's drawing Eli's doing some web comic drawing Jordan wants to know what they're working on Jeremy is working on his last Batman book so if DC calls you tomorrow Jeremy you're not going to do know the Batman B uh I'm excited to see this collab and how it weaves in the story me too Jeremy I'm drawing a massive gold pile so it's lots and lots of small circles Eli says ps53 saw goobers and previews looks hilariously good just finished reading Monsters by Barry winter Smith yes you do need something funny after that um monsters is amazing I was just talking about that the other day with my buddy Reed um but it is not for the faint of heart for sure it's it's not a uh it is not a easy read you know it Demands a lot of the the reader okay this is a little less geometric than I wanted but we're going to roll with it I think it's looking pretty good I'm not sure yet what I want to do here in the back I might just do something dirty here something quick and dirty e I'm still here just in the zone there for a second uh bootleg bat books then your own story I like to hear that Jeremy definitely do Your Own Story I love the fan books but I'm ready for you to have your own thing for sure that that would be really cool it is amazing that monsters exist at all ps53 I don't know how he did it that long but uh he's a crazy man but uh I love Barry W Barry wsor Smith man I love Barry Windsor Smith I am a sucker for his work so he could have done a crap book and taking that long and I still would have read it but when I got it I was very very impressed and um I did have to read it over a period of a few days you know or maybe like a week and I think that's actually probably the the best way to read it is is something like that where it's uh you know you can kind of digest it a little bit because it's pretty heavy and dense but man what an accomplishment what an accomplishment I think if it had come out 10 years 20 years ago 20 years ago not even 20 we're talking maybe 30 years ago he you know the culture now just can't take it depressing stuff it feels like you know it just feels uh too dark for now all right U let's fill this in nicely but what do I know man I'm probably this Pen's probably going to run out as it does on every stream for some reason oh I was going to tape the sides off on this oh well oh well maybe we can do something interesting with some Zips and see if that helps okay okay all right Trove of War ban Scrooge MCD ducking okay trolls Orcs okay cool cool okay all right okay all right okay here we go here we go we're about ready to do some erasing I think let's get these little blades here though bat blades or whatever they are bat rangs is that what they call them batter rangs come on guys batter rings I don't know man no that's not where I wanted that oh you know the other book I always had around though that's Batman is Batman year 100 I really dug that one that was cool too so I have that I feel like if I'm getting another one that I probably have that's good okay I need to stop with that all right let's uh well I lied let's let's see what we got here my dog is having a bad dream over there he's like freaking out all right it's all right it's all right I've been in such a different mode lately this is so weird like my other project has been very it's not superheroes right so kind of Shifting Gears it's fun to switch to you know switch around to different kinds of projects so I like it it's really challenging and probably you know more frustrating than it should be sometimes but um I don't know man people think of me I don't want him to just think of one thing right I don't want him to think oh he's the guy that does that one thing ah man I like to do a lot of different kinds of stuff gota keep it interesting okay these could probably have Shadow that up a little bit here that hand let's try to do the minimum here we don't want to overdo it okay and we have a little mistake oh wait okay let's fix that little mistake here see what's the chat say here uh teral Canon I always preferred the darker stories even when I was really young yeah I'm glad there's some of us out there Jordan Edison Neo hey Tyrell Edison how you doing man been crushing it lately keep up the great work buddy that's really cool to see your new stuff uh Eli I will use fear to defeat my foe behold my batang my dog's name Jordan is Kirby and yes he is named after Jack Kirby CU Jack Kirby is the king as you all know he's a good boy he's a good boy you see him over there there he is gby gby what you doing buddy he's been a little ding-dong he's been a little clingier than he used to be lately which is fine with me uh he was a rescue and he had some some some some bad times at some point cuz he was kind of a wreck when we got him but he has come a long way he's a good boy um that's probably good enough all right now I might mess with some markers some markers on this what do you think guys my daughter has been obsessed with these gray markers that I have so uh screw it let's just see what happens I bought these to do some like fun stuff like this but I haven't been using them at all so um but my daughter will come in here when she gets home from school and she wants to draw with me with these markers and I'm always like oh do you got to use my markers but it's cute I let it happen it's all good for okay we're just playing here see what happens think he's got gloves right I might use a different tone for some of that stuff that's kind of fun just uh let's just do some some marker work here we're just playing tonight this is just for me well you guys too the hands might need a little bit of this uh gray on them all right I'm just like picking random Grays out here I should probably like test them out huh this one's kind of kind of a lighter gray this is a cooler one sort of works uh let's see what's going on here these are tombos uh Jeremy thanks for the kind words Tyrell says Edison for the schlub were you paid up front by Stegman for all the work on it since it was an image book and is that how an image book usually goes if that's too personally you don't have to answer I appreciate you well you know I think since Ryan has talked about this in front of people I can probably talk about it in front of people uh yeah Ryan uh paid me to draw the book and um and paid Mike to color it and John to letter it and then uh image does offer uh occasionally um like uh what do they call it advances right and so it's not impossible to get in advance from image but Ryan was just doing this all himself you know before image was even involved really you know I mean I me gu they're involved in the sense that they were they wanted to publish it but Ryan was just doing the book that he wanted to do right so he just paid for it but um so yeah I hope that answers your question I got paid by Ryan and image pays us when the books sell that's how it works for us uh and then of course we keep all the rights and so uh you know Ryan has all the rights to it and uh well actually all of us do but uh Ryan you know has control of them which is nice that's that that's why you go to image is because you can control your your IP um okay guys we're going to see what some tones look like on this but yes Ryan paid me he complains about it all the time he's like Tyrell got all the money he's kind of a a funny guy that Ryan Stegman a funny guy we love him though and hey who knows maybe we'll do some more schlubs soon who knows you never know you never know I was talking to Ryan today actually and uh just talking about everything uh we were talking about meditation actually Ryan meditates I don't know if you guys knew this but Ryan Stegman has meditation practice Transcendental Meditation practice and uh it seems to bring him peace and that's good so Nick Force the absolute Batman is look amazing sorry I'm late to the stream no worries pal I hope you like it maybe I'll throw this one up in the shop I've been thinking about I've been toying around with selling some of the I mean I usually will put these up but when I work on this A4 paper I'm debating just maybe making it I don't know a little bit cheaper see if anybody's like you know I'd like more people to have my work that's all you know we'll see um heading to bed Jordan says thanks for hanging out and drawing with us pal appreciate that uh thanks Tyrell is really helpful didn't know image does advances now I'm not saying they do them for everybody Edison um I just know I know some of my friends have gotten advances on their image books I know other friends who have not gotten advances on your image books so you know I'm sure it is pretty standard these days because I'm talking about people that I've known for a while so they've done it at different times but image will negotiate something it's not going to be a ton of money right unless you're already a known quantity right they're going to offer Ryan Stegman a lot more money than they're going to offer me you know or they're get more than they're going to offer you know some other Rando so um you know that is something to consider what's the deal here I thought I chopped this what's going on there we go oh you know what somebody on here which one of you guys one of you guys was telling me to get a sand eraser for the screen tones and I did so maybe I'll try that out cuz uh we kind of have a lot of weird things going on in this already so why not just give that a shot and of course my trash can now that I've rearranged my studio is no longer here so we're going to stick these over here ah so yeah if you weren't here last week I did rearrange my studio which has been really great I've got a lot more space now I was sharing it with my wife but she has now fully moved into her new studio so it's been kind of nice to have a little more space in here and kind of like you know it's been nice it's been good got a couch over there now which is really fun I've been on that this week mostly because I've been thumbnailing which I do on my iPad and I just I can sit at my desk and do it but I don't prefer it I prefer to um to be like on a couch or on a coffee shop or something when I'm when I'm doing thumbnails like that darn it I keep forgetting the trash can is not there Ty it's not going to be there next time you look either okay so we're going to play a little bit more with this and then um I do have to get off here in a certain time so but I should be able to wrap this up we're pretty close we're zeroing in on it right we've got to uh just do a little bit more here on his uh after we get these tones done we'll do a little more kind of work on that and of course my blade is very close to need changing but we're not going to we're not going to obsess over that today okay e for okay okay let's try out this uh eraser here nothing one nothing one's nothing on one's mind but swords forces okay the question is where did I put this sand eraser did I lose it already oh here it is Tombo it's a Tombo too so some good company here my other Tombo tools all right so guys I have no idea what this is going to do so it's kind of cool oh you know who it was it was somebody at uh it was somebody at Heroes told me this I think that's who it was I don't remember exactly who but somebody at Heroes con was the one who told me to to check out a sand eraser so this is just rubbing off the uh the little dots from my zip tones here kind of a neat effect [Music] right I wish I could remember his name to give him a shout out whoever it was out there thank you this is a neat trick [Music] yeah it's kind of cool I'm into it what do you guys think pretty cool Samurai shampoo great anime yeah I haven't seen that in ages man I remember that being a really fun show though for sure you know this might be just about it y'all uh let me I think I want to see what does this look like I just want to separate this a little bit from that background so there's another pop right there maybe a few more scritchy scratches on the armor here on the cape and there you got it folks an absolute unit of an absolute Batman that's all right let's sign this bad boy absolute Batman Jeremy says looking killer thanks man Nick Force says this piece is exquisite thanks guys well I enjoyed it this was a lot of fun I've had been wanting a little bit of a release to do like a little little fun something so I'm glad you guys came out and hung out with me um couple reminders if you haven't subscribed and hit the Bell please do that that and you can know when my videos are coming out and when I'm doing stuff and if you're not subscribed to my newsletter please go check that out um I announc my commission list and stuff through there first so if you ever want to get a commission it's the best way um I also announc like convention appearances which my next two conventions are uh Emerald City or not Emerald City um CXC in Columbus and then New York City ComicCon in New York city so so if you are in the area for either one of those shows please come on out and say hi um but beyond that I think we are good to go folks um thank you everybody uh enjoy your evenings and uh have a good one