Here Again David mure and Lindsay Davis round two that we must defend Ukraine from Russia from Vladimir Putin to defend their sovereignty we're going to talk about Afghanistan at all the botch withdrawal which led to so much of the madness we're seeing around the world including in that region you said so just before the break tonight how exactly would you do that and I want to ask you a very simple question tonight would Russia I mean this is again an opinion that's very widely Liv held and debated would Russia have acted the way it did if not for America's weakness as this Blade with that botched withrawal from Afghanistan there that that the footage of that plane flying off with the people falling off it the 13 billions dollar worth of arms Left Behind for terrorists well and of which he clearly says yes I had a plan to get out but we were going to take the gear if we couldn't take the gear we blow up the gear and we were going to blow up the China now got out Afghanistan isn't the issue it's the manner in which they did it which is where the Mayhem began we don't even know of his a president just to clarify they threw him out of a campaign like he's going to do another fact check Democrat day president but we have a president Trump having to fact check his fact check about crime rates and Trump was right because Democrat Dave shut up after that so which tells you when he gets pushed back I mean this is you know this is the guy who's what do they say m wide inch deep he doesn't know the detail he's reading the car's he's reading the DNC talking points he been handed um I actually met with zalinski a few days before Russia invaded TR that worked well change that worked well that was a sh strength so when they send it to fix the Border it breaks when they send it to start a war to stop a war it starts Integrity understand why the European allies and our NATO allies yeah cuz they don't want to pay their own way Cala because he EXA he protection greatest military Alliance the world has ever known which is NATO and what we have which shouldn't be bankrupting America the rich European nations should be paying their share which they did under him he's the first one who said you want the benefits contribute Putin would be sitting in Moscow and he wouldn't have lost 300,000 men and women but he would have been sitting in quiet please he would have been sitting in Moscow not good don't do quiet please no I liked it no no she needs no maybe it's a lady that doesn't want to be told please no I'm sorry she just ranted for a couple of minutes he's responding and she's shouting so no Qui please is a very polite way of saying shut I always love when she's stronger than me just so understand they sent her to negotiate peace before this war started 3 days later he went in and he started the war she just said that she just said that herself stupid they said the wrong things that war should have never started she was the Emissary they sent her in to negotiate with and she botched it just like they botched the Afghanistan rual she botched that so badly that three days later by her own account yeah oh but Ukraine was invaded oh no we're going to fact check that Mr former president she actually wasn't the no no it was it wasn't 3 days it was 2 and a half days you're wrong yet again I said it at the beginning of this debate you're going to hear a bunch of Lies coming from this fellow wow what an assist hilarious have now met with him over five times they're like human Boost de seips it has been about standing as America always should he got these countries the 28 countries at the time to pay up do you think it's interesting that she's clearly pissing him off do you think that that makes him look bad or it's an example of just her playing unfair look I'm going sounds like I'm going to be on the fence with this but that there is something to be said for the quintessential fiery Trump the reason why Trump has been so impactful isn't because he's your diplomatic politician it's because he's Trump he says mean things he says things other politicians wouldn't but you also think there is something to to be gained by him just being measured and not allowing her to continuously go him or not he needs to attack the moderators that's what he hasn't done he needs to do that he needs to put on the record that i' stood here for an hour I watch what you've done you've given her you know you didn't correct this you didn't correct that you tempted to correct this the president at the time invited the Taliban to cap David a place of stored significance oh hang on listen hang on hang on no no no no no no no this is this is outrageous what she's doing here yes the idea that oh she he invited the Taliban to Camp David the Taliban was the government before ended up being the government after yes that means one point the enemy but peace talks between the person that you're fighting a war with can happen that that's a very low blow for me I would much rather have the Taliban in Camp David being told if you kill a single American we will blow up your house and show them a picture of the house they know precisely where it is then leaving the Taliban billions of dollars of weaponry and abandoning your citizens abandoning your allies People Who provided assistance to America for years come on son get in there I got involved and Abdul is the head of the Taliban he is the head of God bless Abdul godess Abdul we've all got that one friend mine's called Abdul he happs to run the Taliban Abdul Abdul and for 18 months we had nobody killed we did have an agreement negotiated by this is the thing this is what works if you want to deal you know you can't just have this fairy world where you hope there's no bad people there's no despots there's no dictators there's no extremists there's no islamists they exist they didn't do what they were supposed to do and these people now now we want to move on move on in the history of our country and by the way that's why Russia attacked Ukraine because they saw how in they saw the Afghanistan withdrawal absolutely look at this look at her oh you're unbelievable MCM said that just last week that's why Russia invaded oh here we go now it's about okay this is want to be known as black I want to ask a bigger a beat up session on him