pleased to have right now the founder and director of the abortion survivors Network Melissa Odin also Newsmax contributor good friend to the program Chrissy Clark ladies welcome in thanks for having us I'd love to start with you uh Melissa you know folks here abortion Survivor and and they're like I don't really understand the term but you're living proof that it does happen so if you can first talk about that and then we can go a little closer into the radical position that Walt has sure that's the reality babies survive abort I am Living Testament of that I survived a probably 31 we abortion forced upon my birth mother back in 1977 I was poisoned and scalded for 5 days before I was ultimately born alive and you know as a as an abortion Survivor as a midwesterner I can tell you that I don't find Governor Waltz to be Minnesota nice at all to women to the pre-born to abortion survivors his history speaks for itself yeah reproductive Freedom abortion is health we hear this over and over and Chrissy we hear it because they want to scare women in these Battleground states that abortion for some reason is going away because roie Wade um but in in reality the stance that Waltz takes is just radical when it comes to the time and the window of uh killing a baby an unborn baby um talk to us about how they're using this as a wedge to to scare women well it's incredibly misogynistic I was just on a popular YouTube show called The whatever podcast and I was sitting across from a girl whose full-time job is well corn we'll call it um and she was telling me that she thinks that abortion should be allowed up until the moment of birth and I was trying to just understand how you get to that point of view but it is actually an incredibly misogynistic point of view to say that you can't figure out that you're pregnant within the first 6 to 15 weeks of your infant's life and we can't even get to the point of arguing about how to go about adoption how to go about changing the foster care system and until we get people to realize that this is murder this is exactly what is happening in Minnesota in California in these far blue states it is murder at the 11th hour and wow Melissa your story is incredibly impactful please keep sharing it yeah it is so impactful and you know obviously one that's not told I think enough so his policies Melissa um he is actually done something that if it was a baby that survived an abortion would not have access access to healthare and live which is exactly what happened to you tell us about waltz's ruling there in the state absolutely Minnesota was one of the few States who had a reporting requirement to report out the number of babies surviving abortions and then what the outcome of that care was and I want people to go to Minnesota's website look through reports you can see that in one year Alan in 2021 they had five survivors and realize those are in undercount because we have babies born alive in late late term abortions we have continued pregnancy after early trimester abortions okay this is a thing we need to do a whole whole conversation about how this really happens and how many women carry an abortion Survivor and people don't even know it because we don't talk about it but what we do know is you can look at those state reports and I encourage people read them become familiar with them contact your legislators have conversations post about it on social media they are able to continue these attacks against survivors and women and we are the ones who have the power to stop them this election is in our hands because if we do the work we look at them and we start talking about it we can get people to vote in the manner that respects life and restores our nation yeah amen um you know what they will talk about though is how he has his personal story with IVF uh Chrissy they really want to talk about this and how they went through fertility treatments which a lot a lot of women do but it doesn't underscore where his stances on on radically uh abortion I mean that's the one thing that the other mainstream media doesn't take notice with um it's going to be this shined up glowing version kind of like what they're doing with his military service even today with the allegations of Stolen Valor they gloss over what they want they just drive their own narrative which is why people are consistently talking about the abortion problem because they know that it'll Galvanize women that's why the mainstream media is honing in on this but the thing that we've noticed is that it's not just a radical position it is a radical Trend throughout waltz's career we see it not just in abortion not just as you noted in The Stolen Valor but we see it in his um his anti-school choice positions we see it in his ability to call socialism neighborliness a physical or a philosophy that's killed millions and millions of people is just neighborliness no it's called dictatorship but he's just across the board a radical and I think that really showcases to us the full picture as opposed to just one policy one policy is part and parcel of who he is a radical person we'll get back to some of the transgender and the parental things but I do want to ask you Melissa we know how strong um Planned Parenthood is when it comes to funding elections and super Pacs and it's massive you know and and they don't even want women who go in to see an ultrasound because they they might connect and they might actually look for a resource or perhaps consider adoption consider the options there are so many people that want babies there are so many places that will help women struggling um share a little bit of that if people are are you know considering there are places you can go um to get help and it doesn't sometimes cost you a thing there's a lot of churches and communities there Christian groups uh John haggy one of them in Texas they have a home for women who are pregnant come in you we will take care of all your medical expenses well one of the stories I want to share with you that I think highlights this comes out of Minnesota I met a mom a number of years ago who went to plann Parenthood we this story is exp floding around the news but I've known them for years this woman went to a Planned Parenthood had an abortion that she started at about 22 weeks there was a dioxygen shot delivered to that baby's heart that should have stopped it on the second day of the procedure she went back and had an ultrasound performed to ensure that it had worked guess what they found that there was still a heartbeat that's when plann perood started to say you know what we don't usually talk about this but if this baby is born we would break the baby's neck okay that's Planned Parenthood thank God this woman knew that there were people out on the sidewalk who were showing her real love and real support that little kiddo is now in grade school no thanks to Planned Parenthood that is the difference between Waltz and his agenda and the people in the pro-life movement and that's it it's it's brutal to hear but don't let them fool you with this reproductive freedom because this is exactly what they are for um what a test to that Mom and that story thank you for sharing Melissa Chrissy uh really appreciate your thoughtful comments and uh we know you're talking about this issue as well um with your platform very important for all women to hear this other side thank you both thank you