what did you make of trump saying today no more debates between him and Harris well I remember back when he was saying anytime any place but what changed of course is he got beat uh he doesn't like being beat he doesn't like being embarrassed so I'm not totally surprised that he's changed his position backed off and doesn't want to go through that again do you think that there will ultimately be another match do you think he'll be able to because you and I talked about this last time you said that you thought Trump was scared to to go on the debate stage with her do you think there will ultimately be another one hard to say uh you there may come a point where the Dynamics build against him and he decides he needs to do something anything to uh shift attention from uh uh from her winning message maybe that would motivate him to change his strategy I'm I'm beyond trying to predict what his strategy will be in the future what I do know is it was a great night for her and it was a really rough night for him and