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Chief Washington correspondent John Carl our chief Global Affairs anchor Martha Ritz welcome to you both John let me begin with you I think one way to think about what was going on last night is that KLA Harris was engaged in a kind of psychological warfare yeah and it began right from the moment the debate started even before it started when they walked onto the stage and KLA Harris walked over to Donald Trump going to his side of the stage uh for a handshake that Donald Trump did not expect and seemed like he didn't want he started out debate relatively calm at least for a couple of minutes uh but as the debate wore on he became increasingly rattled and angry yelling a lot of his answers as KLA Harris tried to provoke him tried to get inside his head hitting some key touch points uh ridiculing his crowd size talking about how he is saying he is mocked by people around the world talking about the long Litany of former senior Trump officials people that Donald Trump hired who now say that he is unfit for office and Trump clearly was upset he took the bait over and over again was unable to really take the argument uh to Comm Harris now this morning George uh Donald Trump is saying this is his best debate ever his greatest debate ever uh but there are several indications that not even Donald Trump thinks that is remotely true uh the first was the way he walked out before all those reporters in spin room last night and this morning he actually refused to even commit to a debate on Fox news uh he doesn't seem to want to get on the stage again with KLA Harris okay and and Martha there was a fair amount of attention on foreign policy last night trade with China the Gaza War the war in Ukraine Harris's Mantra Donald Trump has been weak and wrong exactly and Donald Trump fired back of course saying that the UK the war in Ukraine would not have happened Vladimir Putin would not have gone in if he were president he says the same thing about Israel offered absolutely no evidence and in fact at one point David mure saying directly to him do you want Ukraine to win this War uh seems like a pretty simple question George but he never answered that question he also claimed that Millions had died uh that fake numbers were coming out of Ukraine uh KLA Harris basically just looked at him and smiled she was asked directly of course about Afghanistan and whether she takes any responsibility for that disastrous pull out she did not answer that directly she threw that back at Donald Trump and talked about the fact that he was the one who wanted to pull out of Afghanistan and had a specific date to do that George Marthur is John Carl thanks very much