The Pick 6 Podcast Episode 1 I PAC-12 Expansion I Conference Realignment I Transfer Portal Woes

welcome everyone to the P six podcast where we discuss the biggest stories in college football I'm your host Chris Chang and joining me is my co-host Rudy tamario Rudy my man how are you doing on this Friday happy Friday I'm just happy to have another week of games coming up and you know this is something we've been looking at for a long time I'm finally glad that we're getting started me too my man I am so pumped so okay before we get into our first pick of the week let's kick things off with your week two takeaways what what's stuck out to you about week two well we learned a few things about some teams that we kind of learned a little bit in week one but it just you know it it showed itself again for another week of some teams just aren't that good man that's what that's what those preseason rankings are not so great for and uh I think we just learned that you know you can't really take the preseason for uh for what it's worth anymore yeah I mean for me I think I learned like Notre Dame not a good team I mean week one we saw them play uh Texas A&M and and that was to me I looked at like a Timmy Jimmy fight for all my South Park uh fados that I just wasn't sure I mean who knows in 10 weeks we may look back and be like wow that was a Powerhouse game but in terms of the first two weeks of the G of the year I I just am like looking at another name like they're not good um I think Alabama should never play USF ever again because they give them a heart attack every time they played them in the last two years this year and Bryant Denny took him to the third quarter Midway through I just I I can't imagine um can't play on the rain anymore no you can't no you no exactly do not blame it on the rain you got it's you got to figure it out poror Nick Sav was probably having a conniption as they as they dedicated the field to him for that game I mean which should have been a blowout ended up being what it was uh another thing that really stuck out to me was uh Michigan o never stood a chance never ever they lost game they lost it during game Deb when when that McAfee segment came through and that kid was talking crap to McAfee and then he misses the field goal more respectable of an attempt than I think any of us ever thought but from that moment on I thought okay Pat's picking Texas everyone's picking Texas because they didn't have anything to salvage from that point and then the team decided to you know follow suit yeah let's talk about our hometown canes because I'm thinking Miami is the real deal this year what are you thinking I'm on pins and needles because how many times you hear the U is back and everyone's getting ready and then by week six there's just an egg that gets laid and go n we we got we got fooled again and this is one of those years where you're like still sitting on your hands going this finally smells like the real deal they play like the real deal they don't seem to believe the hype which makes me more convinced that it's the real deal so yeah one game at a time ACC loves to throw a nice big wrench in everyone's uh plan so let's let's take it one game at a time yeah I I'm believing the inside joke with with my friends is uh we're winning The Natty I'm telling everyone we're winning The Natty we're going undefeated it's happening I'm booking my tickets to Atlanta already I've already got a flight planned we're going um Miami aside there's another sleeper that I think is just sneakily good and they're just not they're staying a little under the radar but I think after week three they're going to pop up Tennessee I think Tennessee is no joke I think they when they blew out NC State and did a performance the way they did this past weekend I think they're a dark horse in the SEC everyone's got Georgia in Texas but Tennessee I mean those numbers are insane their quarterback they should be able to get over the hump this year and beat Florida again should be helpful for them because that's been the one thing like anytime they have hype they whether whether they go to the swamp or if they go and they stay at home at nean Stadium they just couldn't get it done and uh yeah they seem to have a team they lose one of their best defensive players and they're still as if uh you know nothing ever hit them yeah and I think what I think what I'm also seeing too like every other year is that like teams are coming out of the gate really slow you know it's like usually week one you're getting a little bit of like the the the rush shaking off of you but like this year I I just feel like we're in week two and teams like Oregon are struggling against like like Boise State they're struggling just they can't get the ball out there here so it'll be interesting to see week three where we go so Rudy the talk of the offseason was conference realignment and one conference we thought was dead in the water seems to be dragging itself out of the Grave Ross singers reporting through yaho sports that Boise State Colorado State Fresno State and San Diego State will be joining the Pack 12 in 2026 which at this point just call it the pack state conference because it's just every state what are your thoughts on this latest development in the Pack 12 uh do you consider adding those four teams a resurrection of the Pack 12 or is it more of a we we're trying to sort of keep a league together because it's it's one thing to find programs to replace the ones that left it's another thing to try to pick up where you left off and the Pack 12 from what they had you know the majority going to the big 12 and to the Big 10 yeah uh I don't it's not quite apples and the ACC you had you had C and you had Stanford go to the ACC that's right what will now be called the all Coast Conference that's what I'm calling it or the American Coast Conference geography was one of my favorite subjects growing up and when I saw this like you know if you're in uh Greensboro North Carolina right now or in Charlotte where the I think they mooved from Greensboro just remove the just like TLC on television it hasn't been The Learning Channel for a long time since they started running Honey Boo Boo and all these other reality shows just call it the ACC but get rid of the name abbreviation underneath it because Atlantic means nothing anymore absolutely I'm wondering Rudy I know this is like tinf foil hat I'm getting a little crazy here but I'm wondering do you think this might be a setup for Washington State and Oregon State to kind of pull a Switcheroo so what they'll do is they'll in invite these Mountain West Conference teams in right for 2026 knowing that it's probably going to implode within the next decade and then make their run to either a big 12 an ACC I mean I don't think they're ever going to go C or or Big 10 but do you think they might be pulling a Switcheroo I wouldn't call it super tinf foil hat because it's one thing to make the effort to try to rebuild your conference by adding competition but at the same time it has to be competitive and something about the Pack 12 that I don't think gets enough credit is that it was a robust conference outside of football if you look at the number of sports that was under the Pack 12 umbrella I think there were more Sports sanctioned by them than any other conference in college football in in the in the University you know athletic system so you talking about multiple national champions in basketball volleyball soccer lacrosse you're not getting equal competition in any of those fronts to come through and I think there's something to be said for all of those programs are not going to benefit by adding more teams that are just not quite up to par so we know that by July 2026 there needs to be eight teams minimum in the Pack 12 to qualify for a uh college football birth my question is is why do you think they're not taking the full like getting six teams from the Mountain West like taking um a UNLV in a Nevada uh the only thing I could come up with is I'm sure there's some red tape with the Mountain West in terms of if too many people go at one time there might be some legal troubles that come through but at the same time too we'll get into this a little later but let's not rule out the possibility that some programs may try to run back home and say I was wrong about my moves I need to get back in I I I I miss home I'm a little homesick yeah I mean I I piggybacking off that thought I really think K and Stanford they're going to spend a couple years in this ACC and they're going to see that cross country trip whether it's the money the resources that's going to cost to do that or just the physical toll it's going to take on these teams to travel cross country as often as they're going to have to I think if if the Pack 12 can it stuff together we couldn't see K Stanford you know hey miss you going through from from an overall athletic standpoint it made sense for them to go through there as much as everyone wants about the Athletics it's more of the the volleyball softb soccer uh pieces because the ACC is really strong in all of those um I just like you said I think it's one of those things where the money is not going to match what the travel costs are going to be for all of these different programs never mind just football but when you look at everybody across the board that's traveling across country to play their schedule it doesn't add up because their grant of rights isn't anywhere near as well the grant of rights is the agreement but their media cut that they're getting off off of their media uh contracts that they negotiate with television networks isn't at the level of a big 10 or an SEC so you're getting a smaller cut and you're taking more of that out into Logistics and they don't necessarily have the attendance right now to make up for that yeah that that's going to be a problem but I'm I'm actually kind of glad that you know the Pack 12 is trying to put itself together because thanks to the Pack 12 the attention is moving away from the ACCC but realignment is proving to be a slippery slope for a lot of teams and conferences um you know conference realignment was the Talk of the Town in the off season I'm wondering how do we fix this how do we get back to some stability in college football uh I think it goes one of two ways I think it goes with my my main argument when this all started out was okay it's one thing to have a couple of super conferences and you have you know 16 teams that are supposedly stacked from top to bottom with with Premier talent but not all of those teams can go undefeated not all those teams can have one or two losses on their schedule there's going to be major programs every single year that are gonna be six and six six and seven there's gonna be a few teams that maybe they win two or three games in conference all season long that's not sustainable if you're trying to uh you know be successful in college football if you have a couple season Seasons like that you're on the back burner and even if you're a program like a Michigan or a USC or even Alabama you can't afford to have a couple of Seasons where you're floundering like that yeah and I'm wondering with this conference cannibalization where you know with the Pack 12 we're seeing them just raid them Mountain West and then obviously the Big 10 rated the Pack 12 we're seeing this cannibalization of each conference it's deluding some conferences you know I feel like some conferences like the Pack 12 the Big 12 ACC if um Clemson and FSU leave can kind of become these glorified G5 teams you know what I mean it's like cuz you're seeing like if I was to tell you 10 years ago the Pack 12 is going to have you know Fresno State Colorado State and uh San Diego State you would you consider that you know a power five no and at the same time you're looking at Colorado State and you're wondering did you not see what happened to Colorado because they left the Big 12 to go to the Pack 12 to then go back to the 12 a lot of buyers remorse I feel like in in college football you know they're just like yeah the grass wasn't always greener I'm going to go back and and to me I feel like that's my solution to conference realignment is let's just go back as far as we can let's get back to some regionality and then if anything let's bring in some relegation you know we'll keep the regionality of it we'll have a top tier part of the conference and a bottom tier part of the conference because that's realistically how most conferences are set up you've got one or two Elite teams you've got maybe one or two decent teams and then the rest are just Bottom Feeders hey Rudy when was the last time you used an abacus because the weekly AP and coaches polls are out and I'm seeing them about as useful as an abacus at this point what are your thoughts on the recent uh AP and coaches full I Ed an abacus about the last time I also used a TI 83 plus they were around the same time uh granted one is probably still more relevant now but the the poll that really matters comes out November 5th it's the college football playoff committee poll uh their rankings that they use AP doesn't really mean anything other than for the television networks because they want to try to give you the most compelling matchup from week to week and that's what dictates the 7 PM game the 800 PM game the 3:30 that's really all it's for now because as we've learned they don't know what they're talking about either yeah I I I I just when I when I saw the rankings Notre Dame we clearly know is not a top five team when they were first you know ranked at the beginning of the season Michigan's not a top 10 team I don't know how you lose half your coaching staff half your players and then expect them to compete at a top 10 caliber that was just setting them up for failure in my my personal opinion um another thing six out of the 10 teams are SCC teams and not even ordered I feel like in the right order I think Tennessee is undervalued compared to a Missouri um what do you think is the answer to the coaches poll and the AP poll do you think we should still keep them is there something else we could be doing what I find what's crazy about it is that yeah six of the first seven not even like in the top 10 six of the first seven and yeah there's been a correction now that it's come through you know that Notre Dame is now 18 Michigan's now 17 they've dropped but if look the the Associated Press is still going to be relevant because it's a it's a major player in the world are they going to stop doing their poll absolutely not but in an ideal world for us maybe save it for like week one don't don't do a preseason poll like we we talked about this off stream before too is you know power ranking seem great let's talk about momentum that's coming through let's let's mention some progress that's happening like what teams made you could say like teams to watch it couldn't even be a power ranking of like you know Miami homers like us saw this coming but for a media Outlet can say you know mine made a lot of moves in this offseason let's see what they're capable of doing they have a really compelling match up for week one I know you had a couple of fun ideas though for how to do week one with scheduling if college football can get off this like 30-year scheduling cycle that they have right now yeah first you you got to do what I think the NFL does is you don't really do the scheduling until a few months before the season that way you can kind of create these narratives like I know the NFL likes to do in the first week or two having the the two Super Bowl teams re like play each other in the regular season which I think is brilliant I think you could do that again or maybe what you do is maybe not because again you have high turnover in the uh college football what you do is you do teams like maybe like in Alabama or a Georgia to play the winner so to play a Michigan or again let's just say Washington kept most of their people you could have you could have a Georgia play a Washington because we obviously know Michigan lost half their team I also think doing maybe Power Rankings weeks one through four is crucial because we really don't a team in college football until about week four I feel like and especially when you get into conference play You're you don't you're not understanding what a team a team is for example Oregon right Oregon right now is wobbling their way into week three I mean they're stumbling like a drunk college girl like in her first two weeks at in the school year you know I feel like if they have one more week game against Oregon state which they very well could they could find themselves out of the top 10 even with a win you know if it's a sloppy win I really think they could find themselves out of the top 10 but totally we have seen this season some Blue Bloods like Notre Dame are not getting a return on their investment when it comes to the transfer portal we've seen a bunch of bus this year what are some bus that are sticking out to you uh as much as Notre Dame didn't have uh their return on investment so far the the biggest blunder so far you can't not call out the guys in Tallahassee in in Florida State uh DJ La has not been the answer for them so far but at the same time he's kind of a fish out of water because you know his favorite running back last in Oregon state is now down at Miami and he's killing it as per usual and it's a totally different system he's looking like Clemson dju again and it's a matter of for me it's is it a bust or is it just the system not matching the talent that they have available yeah I think dju would kind of stuck out right off the rip we saw what he's an ACC play so you know what he's going to be like in this conference I think the year at Oregon state was a bit of an anomaly I think he was a great system player I think they created a system around him for to make him shine but I also think like we were saying Damen Martinez really made him look good because when he couldn't Dink and dunk too much anymore it was just pass it all just hand it off to Damen Martine he take care of you another bus that really stuck out to me and is really sticking out to me right now is Riley Leonard I mean the quarterback from Notre Dame everyone was making a big deal out of Notre Dame this year getting Riley Leonard and you would think I mean let's just look at like one person I'm gonna skip a little bit ahead but like one of the hits I thought this year was Kyle mcord at Syracuse coming from Ohio State if you were to tell me based on like media coverage who was gonna have the better year I would undoubtedly said Riley Leonard but Riley Leonard is just falling on his face I mean just to kind of give you an idea they were kind of comparing him to like a 2.0 Sam Hartman and realistically the dude has onethird of the yard that Hartman had coming into Notre Dame he was Harman was 38 for 12 on touchdowns to interceptions let me tell you something you don't need to go look up the stats but I can tell you that Riley Leonard was nowhere near that so to sit there and say he was going to bring Notre Dame into this upper echelon again and get them competing for a playoff spot I just I didn't see it I didn't see it I didn't it at all it's different systems too I mean you're looking at Notre Dame has picked into the ACC now consecutively they got Sam Hartman from Wake Forest now they're getting L Riley lonard from Duke Riley lonard ran a Mike Elco team over at Duke who's now over at Texas A&M having his own offensive struggles but with his guys he was running physical football you know you had a great running back who's also transf out to Duke since uh he wasn't really throwing all the time and if you're trying to throw yourself out of a win like they were doing against Northern Illinois you're gonna find yourself in trouble so I don't think it's it's too surprising and if you're looking at Kyle McCord that's definitely been a surprise in college football because when you think you're leaving a program like Ohio State you you know near the college football playoff you a couple plays away from trying to beat Michigan uh to go to Syracuse who really hasn't had a quarterback since Donovan McNab and is putting up some decent numbers Syracuse crushing it is looking like a dark horse at this point in conf everyone is talking about just for the background Rudy and I both went to the University of Miami we are diard canes everyone's talking about Louisville being the the test maybe the Virginia Tech game before FSU became a dumpster dumpster fire that was the the game but I truly believe that last game of the year in the Q Dome like oh that team is rolling and if they continue rolling you don't want to play a team in in the last week who is on fire you know and so K mord is is is crushing things but listen the portal isn't all bus we've seen some major hits what who would you say is some standout players that have uh gone through the transfer portal the season I'm gonna be a homer I'm just GNA take the easy loow hanging fruit and it's going to be cam Ward because it's you know you you could live and die by your transfer quarterbacks if you're trying to bring somebody in for a oneandone and cam Ward clearly so far after week two has been nothing but a home run he's a Heisman candidate uh he's no longer a Heisman dark he's on everybody's radar he's the only quarterback in University of Miami history to have consecutive games to start his career 300 yards for three uh touchdowns or more so he's he's the real deal and's a dude yeah he's he's a dude and his mindset and his preparation has clearly elevated the play of everybody else at Miami too a few other key players that were already here like the Maui NOA Brothers uh a couple of offensive weapons that they added like a Damen Martinez but what it's done to guys like jacobe George at wide receiver and how you're seeing how more level-headed he is in terms of cutting down on the penalties because he's being targeted every play they're trying to get in his head and try to get him to to break and either throw a punch or or do something for a flag that entire team is different and it starts with Cam Ward because all of that uh offseason training footage that you saw with shador Sanders and the stories he has with Lamar Jackson in terms of training uh he's a dude and the fact that Miami landed him instead of him to the NFL to you know raise his draft stock a little bit to play behind an offensive line that isn't ranked in the hundreds in the country is is you know it's all it's all systems go for cam yeah I think the beauty of of Cam Ward is a lot of the things that people were worried about we're kind of seeing eras because of that o line and and I think a lot of people are starting to recognize that maybe a lot of the things cam was doing you know the turnover um problems he was having last year it probably was due to him being on a duress you know and running around but speaking of duress one person I'll keep it home as well is Tyler Baron from Tennessee who we got this year I mean this dude is looking like a Jason Taylor 2.0 he is crushing folks every game I mean we've only seen two but I mean I have a feeling this weekend against Ball State this guy's gonna be in the back field the entire time he's just gonna set up shop behind the line for Ball State and just put that quarterback on the turf every play I feel like I mean this guy is a hunter it's funny you mentioned Jason Taylor because he just happens to be the defensive line coach along with Joe saliva who's another guy who played in the NFL so you got two you know NFL players one Hall of Famer who's who's teaching you and giving you more insights into the game and you know the leading sack uh the sack leader last year for Miami was Ruben Bane with seven and Tyler Baron threw two games I believe has four yeah so he's on track to to we're the defensive line productivity in general is set there to go there was a report that just came out through 247 Sports a little bit earlier this afternoon about how in terms of injuries that you're going to probably expect Ruben Bane closer to the end of this month so possibly Virginia Tech I think there was some hope of trying to have him back for the road trip to South Florida over in Tampa but when they get that guy back who do you double team no you can't I don't think you and that's the thing I think everyone was worried about um's secondary and a that's their soft spot their weak spot but again if you've got a line that is just getting in the back field and just putting quarterbacks on their but you don't need to worry but we're seeing the secondary do well enough of the homerism now I do want to mention some other players because I think there were some great home runs with the with the portal we mentioned Kyle McCord earlier at Syracuse I think he's crushing it he's incredible again Texas we were talking about earlier as well Isaiah Bond and Andrew makuba these two guys are coming through on the defense and the offensive side of the ball for Texas and and they're they're making a statement I mean Texas looked like definitively as a contender against Michigan I again Michigan was gutted but still to play Michigan the way they did week two very similar to the way they played Alabama last year in week two and looked as studly as they did what are your thoughts on on those three guys uh what's really interesting about Texas is you know their offensive line is homegrown and they are just really physical upfront from what they without having to go into the portal but they went in and they got the holes that they needed and one of those was at wide receiver so great pick up for them and also on the defensive side with makuba you know he came from Clemson he had a couple of injury issues and now he's over there too so it's it's it shows you how teams can restock and not have to worry about having a couple of uh a couple of I guess weaknesses in their in their in their different styles of play so some teams use the portal some teams don't they lose out on the talent and granted makuba was a little bit down on the Clemson depth chart because of those injuries but that's a guy that you want in depth you always talk about having too deep at every position and exactly that's someone you lose and I think that like it it's a great example the the reason why we wanted to cover the hits in the bus is because I think the transfer pter has to be used as an auxiliary I think the bread and butter is still the high school recruiting I think it's still like development in systems and then when you're down one or two players when you just need something for depth or just to like highlight your quarterback or maybe highlight a defense spot that you might be weak go to the transfer portal but now before we wrap things up Rudy for today what are your week three predictions predictions or what are some things to watch out for this weekend well there's a few games that are on the radar uh one that I know that I'm going to try to pick some ones that are different than yours obviously game day is in South Carolina so having and South Carolina is going to be an interesting matchup just seeing how they both uh recover South Carolina having some moments of Brilliance and also some struggles and LSU coming off of that loss to USC seeing what they do over in uh in South Carolina yeah that that's really important there's uh three games I'm really watching out for I'm looking at Texas A&M and UF um I think it's gonna be a major game for Napier it it's like it's another home game that's the who sucks less Bowl yeah it really is and I mean Mike Elco luckily he he can go in there and stink it up I think he's still fine I think his job's still safe but if those Aggies go into the swamp and they do what we did to them it's gonna be I think that L hippen talk which we might get into next week maybe that's something we'll talk about next week that L hiin talk is gonna get a lot louder yeah I mean the thing about this matchup that's so compelling too is not only it's the two teams are kind of floundering but they're also in different directions where you kind of expect A&M to have some trouble because they have a brand new coach so he's trying to bring in that philosophy and try to bring in some of his players UF it's year three this is kind of a put up or shut up year and they laid an egg against Miami I wouldn't say they laid an egg as much as they just got absolutely dominated in that game yeah but something interesting to develop out of that is you know Connor wigman the quarterback for Texas A&M is apparently listen is questionable so we don't know if the agies are going to go in with a backup quarterback and then you have Billy Napier on the UF side saying well we're probably going to play both DJ lagway and Graham Merz so you're gonna have quarterback by Committee in one side and you're gonna have a question mark at the other so it just it it throws even more uncertainty into that game and to be honest if it's I haven't looked at what the game time is for that yet but hopefully it's not going on at the same time we're at Hard Rock because I want to have my popcorn out and watch it yeah I mean when you do QB committee I think the only time that's ever worked in my recent memory is when Urban did it with Chris leak and Tim TBO you know you have two specific you know system set up for each quarterback and you highlight both their strengths and you get them in I think other than that it's just you're spelling Doom and Gloom and and you're basically just writing your own obituary at that point another game I'm looking at is Memphis at FSU um my God I mean as a um fan there's nothing I love more than to see FSU as a dumpster fire but this is horrific I mean Norv is going to be playing his former team and they got a stud QB and they love to air it out and FSU secondary is terribly what do you think's gonna happen in Tallahasse uh the word of the day for that matchup is shod and frea the it's one of those where you know if they pull it out good for them if they don't it's another one of those popcorn games man because it it's such a compelling matchup as you mentioned you know Mike norell coming from Memphis with some Fanfare to Florida State saying well look what he did with this team they couldn't get over the hump against UCF at the height of uh of Scott Frost and ucf's uh National Championship quality play that they had unconquered yeah yeah the UN well exactly um I I I'm interested to see how it works out because I think it's going to be a motivational piece for Florida State at this point it's you're gonna start 0 and three you can blame the first two on being stuck in conference you know you had some issues now you're playing a group of five team you're not in your conference anymore yeah are you g to get out physical by a team that airs it out it's possible because that defensive line hasn't looked good and that was hyped up as one of the best defensive units in the country this year yeah my belief is that FSU will pull it out only for the sense that they need to I mean yeah a lot of people are picking Memphis but my gut my heart tells me I just can't see FSU losing again going 0 and I can't even remember the last time FSU went 0 and three maybe it was a few years ago when Norvell was in his second it was a while ago yeah like there was they were that was one of those where they had to appeal to get bull eligibility because they played an FCS team and they're saying like hey come on guys we got I know it's six wins I know five of them are are FBS opponents but you know we we're there yeah yeah I think I think another game I'm watching this week it's not sexy it's not good but it's I think it's going to kind of see where this program goes is Miss versus Arkansas State how do they recover from that reeling and bloodbath loss to Texas do they you know pick their pick themselves up by their bootstraps do they walk which they should they should blow this team out but we know it's it's an emotional game and momentum can shift very quickly and a season can go down real fast as evident by Georgia Tech last year with us um what do you think about the Michigan Arkansas State it's it's definitely a crapshoot I think Michigan handles it because they can probably just be a little bit more physical against Arkansas State than they could against Texas I don't think Michigan has the same issues that like Notre Dame has for example because Notre Dame got beat up by Northern Illinois and by the way Arkansas State played Northern Illinois really close last year I think they won by like uh the huskys won by like two points that's is very true if you see Michigan struggling those comparative rankings of 17 and 18 in the AP poll going okay these two guys are pretty similar do they both stay in the top 25 with those kind of performances yeah we'll see it's brutal lastly I have a sleeper game that I think everyone needs to watch and that would be New Mexico verse Auburn New Mexico nearly beat Auburn last year no they did beat them excuse me they did beat them that's right I'm so to me it's so it's so embarrassing that like I can't even remember they're playing again this year what do you think's gonna happen on no nobody's sleeping on the Lobos over there because uh the the sentiment going into going into Auburn last week was hey we had a squeaker against Cal but that was over there so maybe in our home we'll we'll you know handle them a little bit better because we're an SEC team and we got that bias too because we're a big physical you know P you could say power two essentially because the two Mega conferences you know we're major player okay well go redeem yourself against New Mexico you should have that circled on your calendar just like how my has Georgia Tech cirle in their calendar from last year too yeah I'm genuinely worried for Auburn I I I don't know my belief is they'll come out they'll be ready they won't revenge for last year but I don't think anyone saw them losing to cow and you just again with these college kids you never know well Rudy we made it to the end first show in the books we should do this again I I got nothing going on next week if you want to do this again let's do this again uh thank you all for watching for sticking through to the end until next week be good y'all win the weekend and go kaines goes