this is going to be tough for me we don't have any tissue out here but um you know as Pack 12 Pate I would be remiss if I didn't give a good oldfashioned rip an rip to the Pack 12 itself it's kind of there still but it's not really there anymore and I was there to see the you know the bow of the ship fade into the abyss would have been fitting if Washington could win the whole thing last night who even claims the trophy no one knows but they didn't that's the way the cookie crumbles but it was a really good year for him Pack 12 had as good a year as they've had in a long time they had seven teams finish eight and five or better it's the most of anyone in the country this year