IS, LIKE, FOUR SENTENCES, LIKE, RUN, SPOT, RUN, FOUR SENTENCES THAT ARE JUST, OH, WE'LL TRY AND LOWER TAXES. >> JOINING US RIGHT NOW IS POLITICAL STRATEGIST AND POLLSTER FRANK LUNTZ FRANK, WANT TO GET YOUR REACTION TO WHAT YOU SAW LAST NIGHT I FOLLOWED YOU ON TWITTER. AND YOU SAID AFTER THIS DEBATE, THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN WILL HAVE LITTLE REASON TO DO ANOTHER ONE. WHAT DID YOU MEAN? >> WELL, THE FACT IS IT APPEARS THAT HARRIS ACTUALLY GAVE MORE DETAILS LAST NIGHT THAN TRUMP. IT APPEARS AS THOUGH SHE WAS MORE PRESIDENTIAL THAN DONALD TRUMP, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S NEVER BEEN PRESIDENT AND IT APPEARS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS GOING TO DOUBLE DOWN ON HIS CLAIM THAT PEOPLE ARE EATING THEIR DOGS AND CATS AND I CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THAT ON CNBC. AND I KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE WANT ME, IN YOUR CONTROL ROOM, WANT ME TO SPEAK ABOUT THE ECONOMY, BUT LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE, AND I REMEMBER HOW I FELT IN 2020 WATCHING DONALD TRUMP, TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME AFTER TIME LIGHT INTO JOE BIDEN, ALIENATING THE PEOPLE HE WAS TRYING TO WIN. THE LEVEL OF DETAIL IN LAST NIGHT'S DEBATE FROM HARRIS AND FROM TRUMP ON THEIR ECONOMIC POLICIES WAS SO SLIM THAT THE PUBLIC WAS LEFT WANTING AND AS I'M FOLLOWING IT, I'M BEING TEXTED AND EMAILED BY PEOPLE WHO WATCH YOUR PROGRAM, AND HOW DISAPPOINTED THEY WERE IN BOTH CANDIDATES FOR NOT BEING EXPLICIT, AND BOTH CANDIDATES FOR NOT BEING ARTICULATE ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD DO, PARTICULARLY WITH INFLATION, PARTICULARLY WITH ECONOMIC CONCERNS, BUT THAT TRUMP MISSED A GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK UP AND SPEAK OUT ABOUT WHY WE'RE IN THE SITUATION WE ARE NOW, AND THAT FRANKLY HE LOST THE DEBATE LAST NIGHT NOT THAT SHE WON, BUT THAT HE LOST >> AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT THEN WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DISTINCTION IS, NOT THAT HE LOST, BUT THAT SHE WON, OR NOT THAT SHE WON, BUT HE LOST, WHAT DO YOU MEAN BY THAT? >> THAT THERE WAS PERSON AFTER PERSON WHO WERE ON THE SHOWS AFTER THE DEBATE, DELIVERING TALKING POINTS, BEING TYPICALLY PARTISAN, AND SAYING THAT WHOEVER THEY SUPPORTED WON THE DEBATE, BUT THE FACT IS HIS TALKING ABOUT, AND I STILL CAN'T BELIEVE I'M SAYING THIS ON CNBC, AT 7:00 A.M., THE IDEA THAT ANYONE IN AMERICA, THEY'RE EATING THEIR PETS, AND HE WILL NEVER ACKNOWLEDGE AND HE DID NOT LAST NIGHT, THE MODERATORS GAVE HIM A CHANCE REPEATEDLY TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT HE MADE A MISTAKE, THAT HE CANNOT DO THAT, WELL, LET ME TELL YOU, ANDREW, THE UNDECIDED VOTERS ARE NOT VOTING OVER POLICY, THEY'RE VOTING OVER PERSONALITY. AND THE IDEA THAT SOMEONE CAN BE PRESIDENT FOR FOUR YEARS AND NOT MAKE A MISTAKE AND NOT ACKNOWLEDGE WITH HUMILITY THAT YOU DON'T GET EVERYTHING RIGHT IS GOING TO COST HIM THIS ELECTION ON THE ISSUES, ANDREW, TRUMP HAD THE ADVANTAGE, INFLATION, IMMIGRATION, THINGS THAT MATTER MOST BUT INSTEAD HE PROSECUTED HARRIS WITH THE SAME KIND OF ANGER AND THE CONTEMPT THAT HE SHOWED TOWARD JOE BIDEN IT ABSOLUTELY FEEDS HIS BASE IT WILL ABSOLUTELY BE CHEERED ON BY 42, 43% OF AMERICA. BUT THE GOAL IN ANY DEBATE IS TO WIN THAT UNDECIDED AND HE MOST CERTAINLY FAILED TO DO THAT LAST NIGHT. >> WE SAW ELON MUSK TWEET OUT THAT HE THOUGHT THAT THE VICE PRESIDENT EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS. DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A SENSE AMONG UNDECIDEDS AND, BY THE WAY, NOT JUST UNDECIDEDS, ANYBODY ON THE TRUMP SIDE THAT SWITCHED AFTER SEEING THIS NO >> I DON'T BELIEVE TRUMP LOST A SINGLE VOTE LAST NIGHT BUT THAT SEGMENT, THAT 5% IN THE KEY SWING STATES, HE GAVE THEM NO REASON TO VOTE FOR HIM ON ECONOMIC ISSUES, WHICH IS THEIR NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. HE WENT BACK AND AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN TO IMMIGRATION, BUT HE DID THAT INEFFECTIVELY YOU CAN'T JUST BEAT UP ON YOUR OPPONENT YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOLUTIONS AND TRUMP DID, AS PRESIDENT. BUT THE FACT IS LAST NIGHT WAS A VERY POOR DEBATE PERFORMANCE FOR SOMEONE WHOSE CAMPAIGN HAS DONE QUITE WELL IN ARTICULATING THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIMSELF AND VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS SUCCEEDING IN DRAWING A DISTINCTION, IN DRAWING A CLEAR DIFFERENCE, BUT THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF FAILED LAST NIGHT AND, IN FACT, IF HE DOESN'T APOLOGIZE AND BACK TRACK ON