welcome to celeb scene Central Barry kogan is opening up about his own experiences as a parent the sulan Alum stars in director Andrea Arnold's bird in theaters November 8th about the fraught relationship between 12-year-old Bailey Nikia Adams and her single father bug kogen the actor said he drew on his own real life experiences growing up and as a father now for his portrayal I'll just say this I didn't have a father figure growing up so even my relationship with my son isn't quite of the normal fatherson relationship kogen told Entertainment Weekly at the 2024 Toronto International Film Festival because I don't have that figure to draw experience from and to base it on love you don't need anything to draw from Love is pure and so I'm not on about that but I'm on about little stuff like teaching your son this or teaching your daughter that kogan welcomed his first child Brando in August 2022 with ex-girlfriend Allison Sandro and he said his own version of Parenthood had a major impact on his performance and bird going into this I didn't have that normal experience so it's a very brother sister kind of chemistry going on for bug and Bailey which I felt was right for it he said and you see that these days there's a lot of Young Fathers out there and young mothers and they're almost like sibling likee you know what I mean which is beautiful but kogen added that throughout the film there are moments where bug has to step up as a father and make very important choices and decisions and they may not be the best ones but for me the experience of playing a father was obviously I'm a father but at that age she's 12 in the movie and it's like what do I base it on kogen revealed the bird was shot in chronological order and he actually only knew what was happening in his own scenes we didn't get to see the movie at all he said I didn't know what the movie was about I got handed my scenes a day before a day or two before and only knew my journey up until a certain point so when I seen the movie at can for the first time I didn't even know what it was about when he finally saw the movie in full he was blown away by his young co-star Nikia Adams is absolutely incredible he said just to show up on set your first movie her and Jason Buddha who plays Bailey's brother Hunter and to bring such emotion to it in an environment like that where you got cameras you got sound and to still connect and get to that place I was fascinated I'm always fascinated watching younger actors and what they bring especially actors who aren't trained because they've no kind of structure and its Instinct kind of way and I'm always looking to see what they're bringing always observing that and I was fascinated watching the two of them