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I'm Rachel zo and you're listening to climbing in heels for your weekly dose of Glamour inspiration and of course fun my guest today is honestly a Trailblazer in her field Dr Andy Jean meroe is award-winning and highly sought after female cosmetic dentist and I know from personal experience just how amazing and talented she is her Journey from working alongside her mentors in New York City to moving to Beverly Hills and working on some of Hollywood's best and brightest Smiles is truly inspiring Dr Andy is truly changing lives by transforming smiles and giving people the self-confidence they need and deserve so let's Jump Right In I'm very excited to have you on and I wanted to have you on because not only do I have firsthand experience with you but you run in a world that I completely knew nothing about and it's funny because I think that people would always think oh you know Rachel's So Vain she's so like of course she knows about every single thing when it comes to cosmetic anything or anything that it's visual or whatever and ironically my teeth was not something that I really knew anything about the world Beyond teeth like beyond the teeth I had that I knew you could get them whitened or I knew you could do this or whatever and when I learned about you I was like okay I was skeptical I was like but let's let's just let's just meet let's just meet right let's just let's just meet and let's just say the rest is history and here you are and I'm excited to have you on so I want to talk about first and foremost how in what world did you like come up in that you were like hey this is who I want to be when I grow up or was there no world and then you just decided that like late in life right you know I am to tell you a lot about my personality I my name is obviously Andy I'm a girl that GRE up in Brooklyn and has a boy's name right and my mom always joked that like I know you can hang out with the boys that's why I named you a boy's name and so growing up I had mostly male friends like I never was a girls girl growing up but I definitely have become one and you know growing up in Brooklyn I don't think that it necessarily means you're G to end up in Beverly Hills California treating people like yourself definitely has been a quite an interesting Journey but I think you know along the way I've come across so many people in my life that have influenced me both positive and negative to be who I am today and it's been quite a crazy Journey just being a woman in this industry you know that is completely Mal dominated you know I I travel the world I teach cosmetic dentistry all over the world and when I go on these big stages it's all men and then me yeah and you know I never thought of being a woman as a limitation I thought of it as my superpower I'm going to show them that I can do it just as good just as I could work just as hard and I can get to be just as successful as any male in the world you know and when I was growing up I knew that I wanted to be something in the medical field I knew that that was something I wanted but I didn't know that I was going to be a dentist my mother was a nurse I come from a family of nurses I'm the first doctor in my family wow and yeah that's a little crazy that's that's exciting it's also it's also interesting that that that was your that coming up in Brooklyn and coming up in that that that was your thought process in it yeah so you know I I'm the person I'm the kind of person and and I know you know this already about me because we've obviously worked together a little bit like the more you tell me I can't do something the more I'm going to work hard to really prove your wrong yeah and so you know growing up I knew I wanted to be in the medical field and I was always really crafty like I was the person that was putting together puzzles I was the person that was like carving soap or doing weird things to be creative you know and I think it was probably a little bit of how I housed anxiety throughout growing up and through the pressure and I remember one day somebody saying to me oh well you should look at dentistry and it's actually a funny story my mother and father when they met their family dentist Dr Bill bonjourno you know they would they would be very friendly with him and he had a front desk girl her name was Lori and Lori had just lost her husband and her husband's name was Andrew and I remember my mom telling me the story that she came home and they you know she was pregnant with me and my father had gone to dinner with Dr bonjourno and they were talking about how if they would have known that he was going to pass away that they would have named their daughter Andy and my dad heard this and that's how I was named now fast forward 30 years I go to Dr Bon joural and I'm like I think I want to be a dentist and he's like really like I've been in your life for this long and you want to be a like one of his children coming out of the room you know sure and so I shadowed there for a few years when I was in college I was a division one athlete when I was in college so I swam I water polo it was a multi multitasker because I was trying to build my resume to get into dental school and I remember applying to D school and being so nervous I applied to 16 schools I got weight listed at four and then I ended up getting into three of the four and it was just pure persistence because I just don't accept the word no right and I remember being on the wait list and it was almost August and downal school starts mid August and I remember then getting into upen and it wasn't where I wanted to be I wanted to be at NYU I'm a New Yorker through and through I wanted to stay home I want Side Bar pen is like the sickest school but okay great and it's super it's super well known yeah of course that one decision changed my entire life you know I was moving in this is actually a wild story I was moving in in Philadelphia after getting into upen and we had just signed a lease for a beautiful apartment it was a four-story walk up and it was in the middle of summer so it was August we were moving in the next day and I remember just thinking to myself like this doesn't feel like where I belong like I know I belong in NYU and so I was very persistent with the dean of admissions there and I would call her like I would tell you probably once a week I would call her and not like the the the phone call that gets to the assistant like her direct line I found on the NYU internet and I would call her directly and I would say you know doc I I'm this is what I've done this week I'm still like really adamant I want to go to NYU and at one point she called me and she said like you know what like if I want to talk to you I'm gonna call you and she hung up on me and I was like oh okay I might have burn that bridge really quick and I remember the day before I was moving in at 10 I wrote her an email and it was one of the most heartfelt emails and I just said to her like I know it's been a little bit since we've talked I want this more than any person you've interviewed in the last 10 years if there is a chance that I will get off this weight list it's now or never because tomorrow I move in at upen and that's it it's over and so I didn't tell anybody about this and I was moving in and my other half he saw that I left my cell phone in the car and I intentionally because I was checking it like a psychopath and he comes upstairs he pulls up the third air conditioner and he puts my cell phone right on top and he goes I think your phone was ringing and I look at it and it's a 212 number and of course it was the person who admitted the end wow and so we packed everything back up and we lost probably $50,000 um because of my apartment that I had just got the key about an hour before I just sign the lease so I was liable for that I lost my deposit for upen and I just packed my stuff up I had had a series of going away parties moving from New York to Philadelphia and then I I said to everybody I was like hey did your parents like freak out or were they advocates for this they were like do what you need to do so happy about it because she knew I would come back home and Dad pass but you know like she was just so excited to just have me back and you know that was the moment and it was four years before I even knew who my mentors to be were you know I I wanted to go to NYU because it was just so well known it was a school that has such a high standard for teaching dentists because it's in the epicenter of New York City and you're getting an amazing amount of people from all over the world right and so the level is super high and I remember driving past this sign on First Avenue it said the Rosenthal Institute of aesthetic dentistry I was like SS really cool my first year I remember listening to Dr Larry Rosenthal who had that area named after him in my first year of dental school and he had this restaurant to like a video of him his name is Amelia and Amelia was talking about how he had just had his teeth done and how his teeth are so sexy and how it gives him confidence and I'm a first year Dental student and I'm like I just barely learned how to prep a tooth like he's talking about veneers like what is this and it was the first time in my life that I said that is what I want to do wow and it the story just gets so much better from there because that was the Dr Larry Rosenthal right fast forward so he's actually like a legend in dentistry I know like people listening might not know who he is it's like he's the anoor of of Dentistry th% that's a better analogy while we're on climbing on Heels you know I just had to I had to I had to bring it to Fashion somehow right for sure um and so the next year um I was part of an Aesthetics community and they brought in Dr Michael haa and I remember this so clearly like if I close my eyes he has this video on and it's got this L man it's like the song and you just see him traveling back and for Dubai and treating all these amazing people and he's talking about cosmetic dentistry did I know that he worked alongside Dr Larry rosenfelt not at all no way had that same feeling and so after that you know both of those people were bum rushed by people and I'm not somebody that's gonna like climb over people to get that opportunity I'm just going to figure out a different way of getting the opportunity so I called the office 37 times and I said you know my name is Andy I'm a dental student I'd really love like anytime I would love to just spend time like if you need help if you need an assistant like I will I will assist like whatever you need no wait Andy were you were you one of like was it still did it feel very male were there any women in this or was it all men still no women all men no women why is that and you know the truth is in this practice I am the only woman that they have ever had in 30 years of this dental practice wow and so I think that that's such a huge almost like a huge weight in my shoulders because I want to not only represent myself I want to represent other women but I also just want to be the best version of myself for my entire team Y and my hope is that as this brand grows that we will have many women as dentists in this brand but it just takes one to door open for the rest of them you know so after Dr Rosenthal so what happened so you're in this world of men I'm in this world of men and I you're fighting you're fighting the line you're fighting to like get the first time I ever went into the office that I obviously worked for for many many years I was a third-year dental student and I didn't own a pair of heels I was not a very good dresser and had very very little money to to do any of those things because I was in dental school and I was spending all my money on dental school and I remember getting there and them saying like Okay listen these are patients that are paying a lot of money they're traveling from all over the world to be here please just be like a fly in the wall like don't speak unless you're spoken to like just be really respectful and I get it yeah of course you know like I would say the same thing to anybody coming in shadowing for the day and so I remember Dr wasn't all was like having trouble midday with the camera and I was like let me just let me just take that and I took photos for him and he's like you can do this I was like of course I can do this and so the whole day I took photos and at the end of the day he like pulled me into his office and he's tried to give me $100 and I was like no no no like you don't get it like I don't I do not need your money I did need his money I do not need your money but I would love to come back and I came back every week and nobody knows this by the way because I wasn't the person that was like screaming this to the world because I wanted this opportunity so I would go every Tuesday from my third year dental school all the way through my residency I used to call out from my residency sorry to go in Shadow there on Tuesdays and then on Wednesdays I would be so wildly unhappy because I wasn't doing the work that I wanted to do right and so as time had gone on on the clinic was bought out by Dr APPA who had been there for 10 plus years at that point and it became the APPA Rosenthal group and so at that time Dr APPA was actually opening Dubai and he wasn't going to be in the clinic as much he there was an opportunity to bring somebody on and he had sat me down and he said to me you know I think you'd be a right fit for this place I think that with me going to Dubai more it opens up an opportunity to have you here to meet the patients get to know the patients treat emergencies start building your career underneath ours right and that was an amaz the best day of my life like April 26 I know the date I remember it clearly it was a beautiful day outside but it started there and so I had to work really really hard the first few years I was commuting from Staten Island I was a Brooklyn girl originally I moved to Staten Island for a little bit I was commuting two and a half hours each way in the car oh my God so I was working five days a week commuting in the car four hours a day I would get there at 7:30 I would leave no earlier than 800m we then opened La I was here for the opening in La four years ago five years ago now and it just started to grow and my job underneath them was to build my own brand right like I'm not APPA I'm not Rosenthal people are not picking up the phone to ask for this girl from Brooklyn right so I had to work really hard to get patients into the chairs because if I didn't bring in patients I wasn't treating them and I wasn't doing the type of cosmetic dentistry that I wanted to do and so you know the first few years were it's like a blur now but they were the years that really buil bu my work ethic and I would just study APPA I would sit and stand in his operatory and I would watch what they were doing I would watch how they would carve teeth I would watch how they would speak to patients and it became part of me and so I always say that I'm the best of both of them with a little bit of womanly you know nurtur energy mixed in and that makes me very different and I I love being a part of this team you know I worked in New York for eight years I was asked to move my life across country and come and help in the LA clinic now and so I run the LA clinic and it's been such an amazing journey because I remember five six years ago coming to this clinic in LA and being like it must be so amazing to to work here and live in Beverly Hills and here we are like that me it's manifesting your future I love it why do people ask me oh my god do you love it there like I feel like you're going to hate it like you're in New York and I think it is it's like living on vacation if you're coming from Brooklyn and Staten Island you're like do people get to live here I I cannot agree with you more I love it here I'm not going anywhere I will be here for a very long time well thank God cuz we're not actually letting you go anywhere we're not letting you go anywhere you're stuck with me I mean anyone and everyone I mean what a dream like this whole process you're so good at what you do you're like you know listen I always say you know i' I've really talked about un climi and heels a lot but I also say in any interview and to anyone who will listen you know I think for many many years women were pushed down for bringing emotion into the job and what I would say to that is like that's truly our super power in my opinion because I know as a woman I want emotion in any job you know whether you're my doctor you're my lawyer you're my teacher you're my whatever my train like anything or anyone I want emotion in it we're not robots you know we're not supposed to be robots and I think that you know to your point I think people do their best work when they're empowered to just do it like I think if you trust the process and someone is known for what they do you have to let them do it right I met you and I was like we're you know we're we're done I mean do you have any fears like are you cuz you're you're so like you're just such like a baller what are your fears tell me tons of fear I have tons of anxiety like the things you were just talking about like let's let's break that down for a second right people come and they have been thinking about this for so long right they've done their research they've met with all the doctors that they want to meet with and they have chosen me right right that to me that alone that one decision I think is such an important thing because I now need to deliver on all of the promises that I promised you right me what you sound like me in my styling career it's like there's no margin for error right zero zero because every patient matters to me why because I don't have gazillion patients especially I'm in La now like I'm rebuilding my name right I spent 10 years in New York building my name now I'm building it in a completely different environment and so every case every patient every smile every interaction matters because just like take you for example you are screaming you're my raving fan you're screaming from the rooftops how amazing this experience is I now have to live up to that for every patient that comes comes after but not every patient is like you Rachel not every patient is going to give themsel over and so I make this analogy sometimes like we are driving on a bus together and you're a passenger I'm driving the bus and we can drive the bus to the Final Destination or we can drive it off the cliff and it depends on what these interactions what happens in our interactions that that depend that create that outcome sorry and so you know if you give yourself over to it I'm going to give you the best that I know how to but when you start to micromanage and you say like what about this corner or what about this Edge you're missing the bigger picture because I'm looking at how you look as a whole I'm not looking at this right so for me that is one of the hardest things is figuring out what somebody's expectation for treatment is and what the image in their mind that they have of what they want look like I need to match that expectation and sometimes that's incredibly difficult you know for as many happy patients as we have I'm sure the more Dentistry you do the more unhappy patients you can have and some of those unhappy patients it doesn't come from the Dentistry necessar themselves of course and so they just put their on you and it's like you know I did a good job I did this to the best that I know how I'm sorry that you're not happy but you know what one thing about me is I will make sure at the end of the day if you allow me to make some adjustments make some changes maybe we reduce whatever it is I will get you there but you have to trust that I can of course and that's sometimes really hard for patients you know to really let go and give in to the process it's so I mean I don't know I I'm just so impressed with you I'm so impressed with the process I'm so impressed with all of it as someone who's come from fashion and styling and jewelry and all the things like the first thing I thought when I walked in there was like watching them the lab like create the teeth was like going into the jewelry labs in Paris of like Cartier and it was so incredible when it comes to living life there's a lot to overthink like most working moms I'm constantly juggling my work and my family life and sometimes all that decision- making is trly exhausting but at least I don't ever have to overthink my water I've been drinking Smart Water for many many years and truly love its pure crisp taste it's vapor distilled through a process inspired by clouds and has added electrolytes for Taste the first thing I do when I wake up in the morning every morning is 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watch the sists layer the color in and for me that's the best part like we're taking a little bit of powder and a little bit of liquid and we're hand painting these teeth we then put them in the oven the oven makes them hard and then we can re add or ADD and shape and create these little little tiny thin pieces of porcelain kind of as thin as an eggshell Bond it to your tooth and completely change your life to me is it's true I'm telling you it is the most fascinating thing that I never knew about no it actually is I also want you to know like all I do is look at people's teeth it's really that has been the that is the worst part of all of this is now all I do is look at people's teeth it's wild I never noticed people's teeth and now I'm obsessed with everyone's teeth it's insane I am so impressed with you I'm so happy you're a woman I'm so happy I get to have you as my dentist until I'm dead and I I just am really lucky that I got to meet you and I would tell anyone who would listen that if they're lucky enough to come to LA and go to have you as their dentist or to be honest I mean anyone on your team although I can really only speak to you but PE but speak speak about you from my experience but I could say I don't know a person that goes to apaa anywhere that's not obsessed so I mean I and and I'm not paid to do this I'm not selling anything I just want everyone to know because I'm so freaking happy with my teeth that I want to scream it at the top of mountains what did I say to you when I met you I said I'm so glad you're a woman I'm so glad you're a woman and you know that's what I attract Rachel like I think when you are looking for somebody to do something and this is something very personal yes hair hair appointments like these people become part of your life is no different like we have to like each other otherwise it's you're in my mouth yeah let's just let's I'm just getting real here you're in my mouth so I am you know literally I think meeting you truthfully for me was the okay let's do it because because I am someone who over the last I would say decade of my life has made it so that every single person I have around me for the most part is female like any doctor any anyone even for my children like whether it's a tutor a coach or whatever I just want female energy around me in that way doctors my doctors are have always been only female and you know I think some women really have no issues with it at all I think for me I can relax differently in in a in a personal situation when it's a woman and I think there's something where we we really speak the same language right so when I sat in your chair and you know I was very forthcoming I don't do teeth stuff this really freaks me out I'm like really you know because there's a few people in my life like and on my team that their their thing is their teeth their teeth are Immaculate all the time they're white as hell they're perfect they get cleanings every 3 months I don't love people in my mouth and I have a thing about dentistry and I met you and I left there and I was like can I do this tomorrow and and you were so excited and not only did you make it happen but like I became completely obsessed and truthfully like it's so funny it's been probably like 3 months now almost 3 months since I got my my Dr Andy teeth Dr Andy Dr atith everything you said is true which is my mouth has literally been retrained and I find myself smiling without knowing I'm smiling I'm smiling while I'm talking my team keeps getting these pictures of me smiling I don't even know it happened and you know it's it's absolutely surreal and the funny thing is I didn't really not like my te before but now I love my teeth now I like love my teeth like I they my teeth actually make me happy every day when I wake up the biggest thing though Rachel is you you have to go into this with the right mindset which you absolutely did you were completely trusting of the process and and my job is to kind of hold your hand through it right and to say this is what we're which which is the most most important part because I think where fear starts or anxiety starts is fear of the unknown what will it feel like what will will it be painful will it be uncomfortable what will I look like right my Assurance to you is nobody's gonna know you're going through this process right and when you choose the right dentist if you choose the right dentist that's how the process should be it shouldn't be filled with all the bad things that Dentistry is known for it should be filled with excitement because you're enhancing part of your face and honestly I think the best part of your face of course the best part about watching you all summer Rachel and just looking through your feed and seeing you C seeing you by the way happy belated birthday you thank you so much thank you but seeing you celebrate and smile like there was a picture that I saw of you blowing out candles or smiling with your cake and I'm just like she is finally feeling better and could just tell the musculature around your your smile is changing you're feeling good and that just you don't feel self-conscious about this thing not that you ever really did you were always no but I don't know but the truth is like I didn't smile because as you get older you know there was always this thing like don't smile after 35 right like and it wasn't like I ever follow those things but what I started to realize is that as you get older when you smile your smile changes your smile goes down instead of up your smile goes sideways instead of up your smile is crooked your wrinkles show more you're everything right and so when you were telling me this like I believed you but part of me didn't believe you like I believed you because I was like okay like I'm doing this so she doesn't need to sell me on it like I'm going to do this but if even a quarter of what she says is true I'm happy right and and so since that time I'm like I cannot believe that I didn't know about this world of cosmetic dentistry because it's it is like lifechanging and it's not I wouldn't say it's a vanity thing like yes of course it can be like anything that's aesthetic right like of course you can look at it like oh it's a superficial like oh I just want new teeth for me it became it really a ected the way I talk to people the way I feel when I talk to people literally and take photos and I don't think I realized it until afterwards you know you know what the the most interesting thing I see patients from all over the world and I look a lot at faces I start with the face when I'm designing a smile because what we can do in the teeth and we can change how balanced your face looks right to left if you have and and as we age we lose collagen we lose elastin and we start to get more sunken in especially in the midphase and so if I could take teeth and build them out and support all of this soft tissue you need less fillers you need less injectables you need less plastic surgery work right so many times I see patients come in and they come in after they've had a facelift or after they've done something and I just want to shake them and I want to say before you do anything with the soft tissue deal with the hard tissue deal with the position of the teeth because then you'll need a lot less help from your surgeon interesting and you know a lot of patients we do we work very closely with many different plastic surgeons all over the world and I think seeing conjunction cases where we work together that's where you see true beauty start to be created not just from the teeth but enhancing everything else as well well you can truly transform your entire face starting with the tea by the way and you were right you were right as soon as I got to the east coast people who know me really really well they keep going you look amazing what did you do what did you do which is what you said you're like you're like they're not going to know what you did and I'm like I didn't do anything and at one point because for anyone that gets to experience Dr Andy or Dr APPA like the greatest surprise for me was I don't feel my teeth any different these feel like my teeth and they are my teeth it's like my teeth with a better shell like exactly but that's it but because I don't feel it I don't remember it so someone will be like whoa and this this guy friend of mine who is always on my face cuz he's a a a master at skin Ivan and he said to me babe what is it you look you're like radiant you're like today it was the first night I got there and I was like I don't know and I was like oh my God my teeth I did my and he was like oh my God that's it it changed everything I was like oh my God so you were right all around and I love your story I love your determination I love I love you know I really look at weirdly I look at cosmetic dentistry very much like being a stylist where you know for me it wasn't about the dress it was just about like the overall I want to create how they feel when they walk outside I want to I want to look at everything from top to bottom I want to understand their like insides to to really like project the outside and you know I I I always looked at it very holistically and I think that's for me people I'm attracted to are always people that look at things in a big way not just in the part that they're paid to do because that's just the job right that's just the job we see a lot of times you know say somebody if you're unhappy with the way that you look or feel there is such a subconscious part of that that plays a huge role after we do their teeth at like the six month Mark maybe change their hair color maybe they have a new girlfriend or they're getting Eng like that is the best part about treating patients is actually going on their life journey I just had a um a patient she was so sweet I did her teeth like maybe five years ago four years ago and she came in and she's like I am gonna get married soon it's gonna happen I'm manifesting it I was like did you meet the guy yet and she's like no but it's gonna happen and once I do I'm gonna get married and I can't get married looking like this and so we did her teeth she just had her wedding last week and when I tell you every every shop teeth teeth it it was because she wasn't thinking about it and that to me giving somebody's confidence back is a huge thing right I you know and I also love the effect that patients that I meet have on me I met this one patient her name was Vanessa she was super sweet she was a a teacher and she came to me right during covid and she had said you know I saved a little bit of money up I don't have a ton of money but I really want to do this with you and I said okay well let's figure out what we can do for you and she had told me this one line that I thought of all through covid and she said my goal is to come out of covid a covid butterfly and I said to her I love that and these are just patients that have come into my life all my patients become my friends by the way my kids would tell you it's called a glow up it is a glow a glow up my kids have taught me about a glow up glow up I got a glow up I got a glow up with my smile I I got a smile glow up I mean I love that your kids notice that already like that kids are obsessed with my teeth I love it we got to get them at the office got come I'm coming in next week I'm coming in with a teenager call you it's happening we gotta get you back in also and check every I'm also I'm gonna I don't want to take too much of your time I want to do a quick rapid fire with you okay ready this should be interesting now I think you're going to be torn on the first one but uh oh cuz you're going to feel an allegiance but I think I know how you feel okay ready New York or la la baby oh wow wow snaps look at you okay I love that for you okay biggest pet peeve um when somebody is dressed to the nines and their teeth don't match their dress up nature like the the most amazing human beings the wealthiest human beings that fly all over the world with a private jet and they don't understand what their teeth can do to you I'm dying okay Beach or mountains I'm a beach girl I used to be a lifeguard I love it what's your favorite season like fall I I don't like to sweat yeah outside nice nice breeze same morning person or night owl oh I am the I am the biggest morning person I get up get my day started go to the gym my trainer it gets my mind right to treat patients I love it also you started in dentistry School leaving at your house like at 400 a.m. so that that'll make you a morning person who's your hero I mean that is a big one Dr my Dr Rosenthal Mom it is it is Dr APPA for so many reasons like I I could I could tell you things about our relationship that are just we've been up and down in our relationship over 14 years of being you know friends and mentors and colleagues he has had the biggest impact on my life that has truly brought you to who you see in front of you he knew things about me that I didn't even know about myself he knew that La would be a good option for me he knew all of these things before I knew it and I think you have to have people a little further along to help guide you and Shuffle you back in when you're not going down the right path and he has been the hugest asset to me and I Inspire to be like him and and grow to be a female version of him but but not really of him of me of you you I love this okay another job you would ever want to try oh that's easy I'd be a teacher I teach dentistry all over the world and I love teaching because the impact that you can have is so exponential if I teach somebody something they're going to take this and bring it back to their practice and then that affects all of their patients so I I definitely would be a teacher I love that okay if you were arrested what would it be for mine would be night driving mine would be night driving or yelling at someone at the airport that wouldn't let me bring my luggage through or like opening my bags because it had too much stuff in it I could get arrested for that for sure I would probably get arrested like sticking up for one of my friends or something like I am loyal to the core like come here no I'm joking I'm not going to hit anybody Brooklyn girl I definitely Brook Brooklyn girl comes out yeah just supporting my friends probably would get me into trouble somewhere flats or heels oh heels all day I love this for you that's why you're on climbing in heels yes I wanted I was going to say I was like should I should I get my I can't get it up I can't get it up that high but I was like I'm G to wear he to this even though she won't see them I love it I knew you were in heels I knew I just I felt it I felt it I do chemistry in heels one piece of advice you'd give your younger self be patient with yourself it does it takes time to really grow yourself I was always so anxious and just wanted to get to be great but the fun is in the climb to being great you know once you're at the top of the mountain that's less fun it's the climb up the Mountain that truly gives you the best life experience hence climbing and heels hence climbing and heels I love you Dr Andy you're the best I love you Rachel I'm gonna see you next week I'm so excited I just would scream at any Mountaintop go to Dr Andy go to Dr APPA I've never been happier with anything I've ever done it's just the best so good to here truly well thank you thank you for being a great patient for trusting the process and for truly giving yourself the opportunity to feel like the best version of yourself and that the best part of this whole thing so thank you we got to smile through life right so we might as well try and look the best while doing it thank you so much to Dr Andy for coming on the Pod today and sharing her Incredible Journey as a cosmetic dentist in a very M driven industry I was so excited because I think I assumed that I was meeting with a male when I went in for my consultation and after I met Dr Andy I just I couldn't do this quick enough and I have to say it's been the greatest thing I've done you know cuz I've never done anything real to my face or my body or anything and and not that this was real like it's not surgery or anything but the process is a process but it's it's amazing like it's painless it's I don't know I just my smile Smiles now like literally and I'm so grateful and I'm so happy that I did it and I think if anyone's thinking about tweaking their teeth or getting it doesn't feel like faked teeth cuz they're not it's still my teeth but with a little extra eggshell over it a very very thin eggshell and I don't know I couldn't be happier so thank you so much to all of you for listening to climbing and heels I love how much you're loving it if you haven't already please subscribe to the show on Apple podcast Spotify the iHeart app or wherever you get your 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