Former NFL DT Malik Jackson on life during retirement, legacy of Jacoby Jones

the pocket. He's hit and sacked inside the five. The ball is free. Denver's got it. Touchdown Denver that was created by Von Miller. Off the edge. Got by the right tackle Mike Remmers. It was Malik Jackson in the end zone. And the Broncos defense with their sixth touchdown of the year. Defensive points are so big time in a Super Bowl. Scooping up a tackle. See we were going to we were going to put love on it Malik. We were going to say the man who pounced on the fumble in Super Bowl 50. But Malik Jackson said like so many other clips, clips okay. Which clip would you like? Go ahead, tell them how you really feel. Oh, can you hear me? Are we going now? Yes, yes, yes. Terrible. We recording the plan and that's why that was a Super Bowl 50. That's terrible. I didn't do anything. Yes you did. You pounced on the ball. I got off a block and I picked up the ball. That was happened to be in the end zone. It's not good enough for you. There's so many other plays. Do you still have that ball? No. I threw it in the stands. You did okay. Are He wanted nothing to do with it then. And he wanted nothing to do with it now. Okay. By the end of the show, frankly, Malik Jackson, who is one of the greatest friends on the show, when you come back, give us a new clip and we will play it as your highlight reel. I can do that. Reenter. Good morning. Football. Okay, great. Do it now. Talks about that and then we'll see if we can. What do you want Malik okay. Can you turn it up in my ear a little bit, I don't know. There's a few plays in that game where I got after the quarterback a little bit, had a few pressures, I guess because I think that's a good, claim to fame as a super Bowl. Are we on right now? Yeah, yeah. We are. Yeah This is this is television, Super Bowl. So yeah. Any anything. That's what I'm talking about. There was no like all right, let's go. Sorry sorry. Just transitioned straight in. Sorry. Yeah it was the music. No. That's good. You were all gathering ourselves. We're watching clips of Malik and he's just like, man, I don't want to see that. Well, we were just having a casual conversation during the commercial break, so it's just a segue to segue got me. Well, hello, everybody. Yeah, there we go. This is Malik Jackson. Oh my goodness. Hi. Super Bowl 50, a Bronco, longtime friend of the show. Now you're retired. You look great. You look great. Appreciate it, how are you feeling? Your time after playing? Just, like, refreshed people of what you've been up to? Well, you know, I went plant based, really? Just an intermittent fasting. Really. Just wanted to, you know, get my health back, and then what's really been keeping up my time. I went back to school. I went to Stanford School of Business for small startups. You know, and I'm also signing back up to go to Tennessee. So just really want to get the education. And, you know, I think it's really the 10,000 hour rule, right? Like you have to be able to put yourself in a situation to learn the lingo and how to talk to people and just understand business. And I also started a business called Carolina Partners. It's an advisory service to help retired athletes navigate the health care system and give them peace of mind and a Rolodex of providers to be able to help them take care of the needs that they have. And really, the biggest thing is just being a helicopter dad. You know, I have an eight year old daughter about to turn nine. She's an avid ice skater. You know, we've been down to San Diego. We drove up to San Jose a few weeks ago to have her do her thing, and it's been really cool to watch, you know, being an athlete myself and watching her go out there and do her thing is it's full circle. And let me just give you real quickly, just give you your props and appreciation, man, because it's not hard. I don't think a lot of people understand and appreciate going from being a big fella, a big guy for most of your career, and then to be able to trim down. Man, kudos to you man. You look good, I appreciate it. I see pictures of myself in the old days or yeah, the old days. I'm just like, geez, man, I was I was big, you know what I mean? But still athletic, big. But yeah, it's night and day. Yeah Malik I just a little advice. Save some of this stuff for the air. We're still in commercial right now so we want to get, you know, this is this is not live. We're we're in commercial. You're doing great. No, listen, we were watching something this this week that just brought a smile to our face, like you always do. We're going to play the clip right now. We want to talk about hype speeches. You've been to the Super Bowl. You've been with a whole bunch of different guys who bring the juice before the game. I want you to first watch this one first, because no matter what you think about the Browns or life or anything, this, this cracks us up. Go ahead roll Jameis. Yo yo yo check me out. Come on check me out. The message is simple. Be obsessed with your opportunity. Yeah. All of us that came from wherever we're from. Yeah. Right here we got right now y'all I got one thing for y'all, man. Yeah help me out. Because I know we're a team all right, come on. I have this in my dream. All right? All right. When I say one of my dogs, they don't say, we ready? All right. Yeah My dogs, they're ready. When I say when my dogs say, y'all say we ready. All right, we ready now I'm about to step out. I know we one team, man. I'm a fan of Browns. I will not be. Oh come on, say you gonna say let's get it. What do you think of a backup quarterback giving that speech in August before a preseason game? I think it's a beautiful thing. I think he needs to save some of that for the season. You know, it's just preseason dog. The starters aren't playing, but he's giving the young guys hype. You know I think it's cool to be able to let the guys that are playing that are on the bubble really working to get an opportunity to understand what it's like to be in an NFL game and what it's like to play for an NFL team. And then it's the preseason and I think, you know, I think Dasan likes it because he can stand back, keep throwing, warming up his arm and let let the backup quarterback take that. But it's a it's really cool. Yeah Let's jump around the league quickly. We saw Von Miller was injured with the bills you know a couple years back. He tried to get back last season really didn't get back true to form. You know him so well having played with him in that Super Bowl. How do you see his potential return to potential going with the bills and how badly does that defense need it? I think they need him. I think that he's a stud still. You know, I think in the game you know being retired you understand. It's a it's a very violent sport. You know when you're in it you don't you don't associate violence with it. Right. You're just like, oh, I'll just go out there and smash my face into somebody else's. It's it is what it is. But then when you watch, you understand, you know, the cut blocks and the really the potential for injuries. It's tough, but I think Von's a real pro. He really puts his best foot forward. And when it comes to coming back stronger than ever, especially with injuries, I think he's one of the best at it. So I think he's going to come back and be the von of old and I'm excited to see it. You know, I think this is what year like 20 for him. He's almost like Mercedes Lewis. Yeah. Hey Mercedes been in the league for a minute. Yeah I'm like I'm like man he just keeps popping. He never he'll never go away. I said, it's nice on this side man. Retirement is nice man. You don't have to be scared of it, you know. But it's hard to give up the situation. Yeah I get it. Malik, you know, football is family, and it's such a fraternity amongst the ex-players. We have the NFL legends community and hate to take this turn, but I know it's as a story you want to talk about. Back on July 14th, we lost one of the great NFL returned men. Jacoby Jones. Played nine years in the league, won a Super Bowl with the Ravens, was a huge personality and beloved in both Houston and Baltimore. I know you had a close personal relationship with him. Please share your thoughts on your friend, as we weren't on the air when we got that horrible news and we thought it'd be best if you wanted to talk about the legacy he leaves. Yeah No, it you know, it was a sad story when it broke. I was able to play against him when we were in Denver. I want to say 2003, 13, 14. When they beat us to go to the Super Bowl. They won the Super Bowl. I believe it was against the 40 Niners that year. You know, it's just a sad story, especially when he's like a brother in arms. You know, somebody that really goes out there and works hard. And I think when situations like this arise, you know, you see you see yourself, right. And you want to make sure that you're doing the best you can to make sure that your health is taken care of. And, you know, it just sucks because we really go out there as NFL guys and put our lives on the line. And then in retirement, you know, we think that we're going to be able to live to live and just have opportunity to just take advantage of our full lives. And when her life is cut short, like that from something that could have been prevented from just a test or two, you know, really, really sucks. So, you know, that's what really pushes me to help, you know, build my company and partners to help guys just get the test. They need, understand the health protocols you know, get back out there. Because the one thing I think people don't understand is that when you're in the NFL, you get a training room and it's like second to none. It's first class better than first class. And then you retire and your agent leaves you, you know, the locker room leaves you. Sometimes your girl leaves you. Right. So you're just sitting there alone and it's a, it's a lonely feeling. So you know just really want to get guys just to understand that they're not alone. And there's things out there that they can utilize at the NFL provides. And you know, other people out there helping them, put their best foot forward. And it's also wants to, you know, really push me to say R.I.P. to Ronnie Hillman and Demaryius Thomas. You know, two guys I played with that passed away way too soon. So, you know, I see myself in a lot a lot of these guys. And so, you know, for me it's like I got to do everything to make sure that I can save my daughter as long as I can. And so, yeah, it sucks. And, Malik, I just want to say thank you for saying that for Ronnie Hillman. A good friend of mine. Rest in peace, you know, so many guys, you know, they go through that transition, and a lot of people don't cover how dark it is when you go from being in a brotherhood in a locker room and getting all the love and the adulation and then you just kind of fade off into silence and you start to feel like nobody cares. Who am I? What am I? You know, you go through this identity crisis. So I really appreciate you bringing that and giving Jacoby Jones his love as well. I appreciate it. Thank you. I appreciate that, Malik. Come back anytime. All right. We'll have you on. Good morning Football. We love hearing what you brought to the game when you played. But more importantly truly what you're doing for football players now as they try to do what you're doing so successfully. I appreciate that. Thank you. Absolutely Malik Jackson, everybody remembering as he likes to say, his brother in arms. And Jacoby Jones to you as a super Bowl champion, a long time pla