but we talked about the impact of Derrik Brown and how the injury came about he doesn't know the team doesn't know I mean adrenaline is running High it happens at some point the meniscus and he was when he got home I guess they figured it out so they evaluated he had a second opinion and official and you know Canalis yesterday said that it was a tear so odds were not in his court and it stinks man it stinks because he is the leader of the defense the pass rush and not that he even is one that usually generates a pass rush but we know who he is in the middle 100 plus tackles most by defensive lineman since they started tracking it that's the type of player he is he's a leader on the defensive side of the ball monster in the middle close to the middle it it's bad man it's bad news it's almost like you go back and remember sha Thompson getting hurt last year feels kind of similar to that it's like man very early in the season shaqs was a freak play no idea