Intro hello and welcome to 2024 Cleveland Browns team preview we have deshan Watson taken back over for Joe flacko can he finally live up from that big dollar contract Nick chub is hurt dog but maybe he'll be back sooner than we're thinking Amari Cooper wide receiver one although he is starting to get a little older finally Dave and theju coming off a career year as well all that much more coming up in the next 30 minutes stay tuned we're talking all things Cleveland Browns [Music] I'm your host Ian hardit joined as always by Fantasy Life director of analytics and allaround baller Dwayne the Rock McFarland and Dwayne as a native Ohio when I have been alive a very long time and the Browns have seldom ever been good to be honest with you but last year they were plus 34 Point differential in the regular season that was the first time they finished in the green since 2006 shout out to Derrick Anderson in that Squad so this was despite the offense racking up a league High 37 turnovers life with Miles Garrett and Company and the reigning number one ranked defense in EPA per play pretty good in Cleveland last year obviously you know Clock Struck midnight on their Fair on their Cinderella Story you know against the Texans in the playoffs but hey man with new year new Cleveland Browns perhaps so Deshaun Watson the big question because they got there with you know assortment of backup quarterbacks Joe Flaco played pretty darn great down the street stretch but this is back to being Deshawn Watson's team and yeah we can explain away some of the numbers let's face it he has only started 12 games over the last three seasons the first one a lot of it was marred by rust and also December weather last year he was really dealing with rotator cuff and shoulder injuries you know throughout the start of the year I believe he got the initial injury I think it was even in week one man he scored that touchdown right before halftime and he kind of got slammed on it only got worse as it went on with that caveat he's been one of the worst quarterback in the NFL in Cleveland among 46 qualified QBs 38th in EPA per dropback 40th in completion percentage ere expected 42nd in PFF pass grade yeah you're not gonna be able to find an advanced metric that paints him as very good this is a guy Dwayne who only trailed Patrick Mahomes and Drew Brees in EPA and cpoe composite score from 2017 to 2020 so with Watson all that said he did manage to register three top 12 finishes in his essential five full games last year you buying in fantasy land because the man's never been cheaper and he remains somehow one of only four quarterbacks in NFL history to average at least 20 fantasy points per game for their career well I was wrongly in on DeShawn Watson last year I will say well I've never seen anything like this in my life um this guy averaged 25 22 22 and 24 fantasy points per game over the last two years 15.1 and 14.8 now several of those he left the game with injury so that's that's making those numbers look even worse I just you know I don't know man I I don't know what to say about this guy I think at this point we have to think that what he's been the last two years is the new reality that means that he's probably gonna blow up and do the opposite thing because that's the way fantasy football works I mean the last full season we saw him in Houston he averaged 301 passing yards per game he's at 184 and 186 over the last two years so deshaun's funny when I watch him I think this looks absolutely terrible and then to your point somehow in those full games it does look like okay a lowend qb1 but I'm not comfortable with it like it's one of those that even though the points sometimes come I'm watching it and going dear God like this is just really bad football so I think deshun Watson's broken at this point you know that obviously we know the ceiling is there so that's something that he has in the range that he's going uh of these drafts as the Forgotten man you can literally you can get deshun Watson won't be drafted in many of y'all's leagues yeah okay he won't be drafted like you're going to have to either be in superflex or playing in ball quite often to see deshun Watson drafted so I will say you get to a certain point you know and you're like well he has at least shown me he can be a 20 plus Fantasy Point per game guy I really like the coordinator or I like the off the the head coach stansky we we'll talk more about the new coordinator here in a second um I like Amari Cooper I don't love him I like him um Jerry Judy at least it's they're trying you know Elijah Moore kind of fell through last year David and joku is a good tight end like there's some decent weapons so look it could happen I'm not going out of my way but I'm definitely making sure I at least get a few shares if I'm drafting one fantasy team deshaan Watson I probably just cross him off the list before the draft happens but that's that's probably recency biased because I was trying to be in on him last year as a guy that could be a cheat code versus the top quarterbacks that were going earlier than ever and that didn't work out so I I think though where we're at Ian we have to assume that he's broken I think he does make for a pretty great if you want to draft a second quarterback at the very end of you know your home League Draft he's the wild card because if we see him go out there week one against the Cowboys and all of a sudden you know 275 two touchdowns through the air and runs one in it's going to be an argument to get him right back in the top 12 this could be Dwayne the first offense that he is in where they actually do fully embrace the passing game because of the injury with Nick chub so I understand that did happen early in last season we had a few games but again shoulder issues from the beginning want to try to give him a little bit of credit I mean look the last two games saw him the Cardinals game he was actually throwing more downfield dimes and I would say the rest of his you know games in Cleveland combined that Baltimore Ravens comeback bro that ball would not hit the ground in the second half despite him playing through the pain so not completely you know ruling it out and again I think it's just a matter of cook cousins Matthew Stafford Aaron Rogers Baker Mayfield like those are the guys priced around Watson and they just do not even fit the same sort you know archetype yeah his ceiling is higher than all those and his floor is lower than all of those it's it's it's the extreme case right of okay like the floor could be honestly like just doesn't finish the season and then the ceiling is holy crap like this guy you know looks like Patrick Mahomes like it's a ve it's one of the wider ranges you're G to find especially in that area of the draft so I think you want to embrace some volatility like that on your team so I I I'm with you I think you should definitely take some shots it's just a it's a huge range versus I think those other guys people are like okay I know what I'm getting with Gino Matthew St St and some of these other guys I mentioned again cousin Stafford Rogers they're all going pick 147 or later an early ADP right now could be even lower in non-b ball leagues where again you are mostly just taking one quarterback so after that Dwayne we have Watson Baker Gino Levis Bryce young Drake May if you had to throw one dart at that group Girl Scout come sauntering to your girl you know to your door which one would you be going with personally I see the upside case for Watson he'd probably be my second pick but I think ien will Levis yeah I think it's probably Levis but I mean I'm drafting plenty of Drake May and Bryce young as well I think you named all the right names I want exposure to all those players but if I had to pick and it was only one with what the Titans have done to improve their wide receiver room and they've changed their head coach and offensive coordinator I feel like they're pushing the chips in to see what they have in Levis now it may not work out but I at least feel like all the signals are there to say we're going to find out we will see what goes goes on with the desam Watson experience the Browns can't get out of this contract without a trade and I'm you know guessing no one's going to be exactly lining up to trade for desham Watson these days they canot get out of it until 2026 at the earliest man even if they go through this year and next year I mean they would lose 46 million against the cap 110 million in dead money bro they cut him in a they need him to work out I mean there's no is there a player on any team that a team is praying works out more than the Browns are for Watson I don't think there is there is absolutely not and I don't even feel the need to go through team by team public check so well good mention this a little bit before you Nick Chubb know in the Watson uh you know just discussion but yeah Nick chub dealing with the pain coming off a multi- ligament injury that did require two separate surgeries now we do have learning doctors saying that it is possible he is back by week one we have not heard that from the brown specifically they are being slow about it but it seems like more specifically you know from Dr Edwin poris shout out to Sam Sherman from established the Run great Twitter account you know great overall worker and he had a good article talking about pup candidates and he interviewed uh Dr Edwin poris but anyway Edwin's point was that while he could be back by week one he might not ever have the same sort of efficiency being an aging back and now coming off really his second career major knee surgery so Browns accordingly did restructure their deal with chub but at the same time Dwayne if they really weren't expecting him to be back sooner I would you know I'm surprised that they didn't do more to actually ramp up up the backups here yes we still have Jerome Ford but Naim hin is coming off his own ACL injury that one from a jet skiing accident then deont Foreman oneye veteran minimum 1.29 million deal yes I understand Foreman looked fine for portions of his you know career with the Panthers and I believe the Texans as well but he was getting healthy scratch for portions of last season in Chicago so you know am I am I reading too much into it I just feel like chub's going to be back sooner rather than later and even if he's not going to be this 5.5 yards per carry guy man we're talking about a running back that's probably going to be leading the Browns and touches more weeks than not by October and he's regularly starting to go outside the top 140 picks yeah early in the offseason he was just going too early um if you guys pick up the Fantasy Life Magazine like the guy I wrote up we wrote These back in the beginning of of May on some of these summaries you know is like the guy I'm fading was Nick chub and I think then he was like a round pick 110 to 115 so the market has really adjusted on a lot of the injured players and you do you do great work talking about these injured players because I remember a couple years ago we had the Gus Edwards thing oh yeah and you're like never again I'm gonna make sure we're researching all these all these injuries before the season happens and you've done a fantastic job with that but a lot of these guys like T.J hackinson is now falling down they were they were absolutely on my do not draft list hackinson chub I just didn't see the reason to be and that was after me going through the projections I was like I can't project these guys for anything you know I mean I have Nick chub right now still projected for eight games probably do need to adjust that at this point to maybe something more like I give running backs 15 and a half games anyway so maybe put him up to 12ish and then we'll just kind of play it from there we'll see what happens through training camp but he is getting to the range where I've clicked on him a couple of times now I'm not doing it if it's not lining up in a way that I really think benefits my roster I need there I have to have a need for running back obviously on my team when I'm taking him and then I'm also typically looking does it line up in some way as far as if I'm in ball for the schedule I know we say that about every player so I probably stop saying that producer uh Matt swing would probably love that if I if I stopped it would save like 20 seconds probably per comment so with chub I am more willing to do it now Ian but I don't want to hang my hat on him in any way um you know I think you know the the comments from porest are probably dead on even if we get him back what is it now Nick chub has been one of the best I know this is so cliche at this point to say pure rushers Runners the NFL for the last you know seven six seven years whatever it's been so I mean he's got some room to give and still be pretty good like I mean this guy is an elite running back so he could still end up being decent I will say this I don't get into a lot of the other backs on Cleveland like I'm willing to sprinkle them in but if I'm playing beste ball I look at it and I'm like by the time week 17 and 16 get here when I really need to be scoring fantasy points Nick chub's probably going to be a problem for those other guys other running backs Jerome Ford coming off an 1100 tot yard season nine touchdowns I mean if you just look at his top five plays from last year you're seeing you know some awesome cutbacks across the grain you know just ripping off these big explosive plays but also was you know sadly boasting the league single highest percentage of carries 27% that resulted in a loss or no gain so truly a boomer bust Runner and accordingly I do think that he's going to still be stuck you know in that 1B rooll and as we saw last year Dwayne even without Nick chub yeah Ford was good I had to start him in you know plenty of leagues it was fine but he also wasn't someone that we were just you know putting in the top 12 you know set him in your rb1 spot and forget about it much more of a you know kind of low-end rb2 with a bit more upside in full PPR so honestly that's kind of been what Cleveland has done over the years I mean chub in terms of his expected PPR points per game rb28 rb2 and only rb1 18 from 2020 to 2022 so are you really in though on Foreman Dwayne because look he's pretty much free at the end of these drafts and if chub is out I do think he'll have a chance to get some you know early down work but I would still think Jerome Ford leads the team and touches more weeks than not and I mean we've seen by now especially with Hines on the roster too certainly not getting any you know receiving work for Foreman so how valuable are you know 10 to 12 carries in this offense really I think Foreman is honestly chub and Ford getting injured away from really being someone we're at all excited about slotting into a starting lineup I mean he's a last round pick and the reality is we don't know yeah so and he's on I I I like Kevin stefansky as a run game you know coordinator U I like him as an as an offensive coordinator period but like his his uh his rushing you know production is usually pretty good now he's had some good players to go along with that the Foreman's kind of like the Khalif Raymond of running backs like when he gets his chances it's still like oh guy's pretty good I will say last year they didn't Khalif slander yeah they didn't want to give uh you know they didn't want to give the carries inside the five to Jerome Ford last year again that's not a sticky stat they could change their mind on that in a heartbeat but I could I could see Foreman being the guy that gets the carries down inside the 5 yard line I think he's fine it's a late round pick not going out of my way for it maybe I'm just toing the Weeds on fantasy Twitter but I think people are drastically overstating you know Foreman's being all that good on just dead in the the real story though I mean that I get with you I'm with you I when I start seeing stuff like that I just remember okay ADP represents thousands and thousands and thousands of drafts at this point and the Market's not buying in to the things that the talking heads or whatever we want to call it which call us Talking Heads you know that they're not saying that they are saying anyway they're not buying in so I'm not worried about that I'm Foreman I'm also breaking my own rule of like trying not to talk [ __ ] about players with such a low ADP so I'll chill out Amari Cooper but yeah guys let's talk about the real you know star I guess at this point of the Browns offense Amari Cooper hoping to get paid uh you know a bit more after putting up two pretty awesome Seasons with the Browns back toback wide receiver 17 finishes in terms of PPR points per game will finally be turning 30 here after seemingly being 22 throughout his entire career but yeah Dwayne he's looked like a number one wide receiver since Duran the Browns 15th in yards per route run 23rd in targets per route run again back-to-back top 20 finishes in fantasy land so why is he going wide receiver 29 in drafts right now even though he actually has averaged more receiving Ys with Watson under Center versus other quarterbacks over these past two seasons well technically he's never had a wide receiver one season yet if you're going by points per game and you're looking at the average of what a wide receiver one's been since 2011 which is over 16 fantasy points per game I'm talking PPR Amari has always finished just he's been close to that but he's really been a high-end wide receiver too so I think that's part of it you're going into age3 season the recent research I did suggest that Amari is fine like 30 is not really an age you're gonna have to worry about but I think people worry about deshun Watson I think the positive here is over the last two seasons with DeShawn on the field 24% Target share well that's still basically Amari like that's a high-end wide receiver to 2.34 yards per route run that's almost wide receiver one worthy to your point 63% catch rate like with his a DOT you'd expect that to be around 67 68% so that's a little bit of something that's holding him back uh you know the lack of completion percentage whenever deshun Watson is targeting him but if that were to turn around I think you're fine I'm I'm good drafting Amari I don't go out of the way because I think we know like okay great it's a wide receiver two but I think that's the other big party in people are like I know he's a wide receiver too I want to draft someone that might end up being able to turn into a wide receiver one the other challenge is you could also be drafting a wide receiver that turns into a wide receiver three and Amari still a wide receiver two so I think he's fine where he goes and drafts I can see why people are not super excited on clicking on him and that's why he slides down the board a little bit but most likely he's gonna outperform his ADP as he seemingly does every year over the last three seasons don't under don't underestimate the boom upside here 265 yards and two touchdowns against the Texans in week 16 last year certainly helped many people Advance would have been a lot cooler if he didn't get injured and then not be able to he has those games man he's he did it in Dallas against the Eagles he did it in Dallas against the commanders I mean he had he's had some monster games where you look at it and you're like God I do look at him at times and wonder how's this guy never been a top three fantasy receiver like I mean he's a he's a good player so again I get the reasons why he's not in the group of like Malik neighbors DK meaf and DJ Moore you know going maybe a round earlier but I really wouldn't purely be fading him guys because of this Deshawn Watson idea that he's just not going to be able to produce last season yes in week one there's a dud kind of a you know iffy game there but only 37 yards for Cooper the other four games he played with Watson seven catches 90 yards 116 yards in a touchdown 139 yards in a touchdown and then 98 yards against the big bad Ravens so really has been far more good than bad for Cooper with Watson under Center hopefully he gets his new contract and is fully motivated to keep on keeping on in 2024 and beyond Offensive philosophy/coaching changes all right Dwayne slight you know change going on with the offense while Kevin stefansky is back and presumably still you know running things on that side of the football their new OC is in fact Ken dorsy who during his time with the bills was still leading a pretty damn efficient offense and had the eighth highest pass play rate so pff's ring 22nd ranked offensive line returns all five starters hoping for some better performance through continuity are you expecting this to be more of a pass first offense in 2024 based on dorsy B based on Watson being hopefully healthy and based on chub maybe not being at his usual self I I think Ken dorsy shown us he wants to throw the ball more last year obviously the bills moved on and they turned into more of a run heavy offense under Joe Brady but this all comes back to deshun Watson the number one driver and whether or not you're going to throw the ball a lot you know is is your quarterback good and if your quarterback's not good you're going to do everything you can until the game strip forces your hand to try to disguise things and keep that player hidden and the thing with the rounds is stefansky has been very good at doing that stefansky has been someone that's been able to dial up a lot of great stuff in the Run game very heavy play action guy second most in the league and it's also still undetermined right now who the play caller is going to be as of the last mini camps where someone I think people have asked Ste Kevin stfy this question like now his comment is okay I'll let you know when I know we don't know for sure who the play caller is gonna be I still lean to it being stefansky either stefansky managing dorsy or stefansky just saying I'm just going to call the play plays because honestly he's a very good play caller so I'm going to lean towards the brown being the Browns being more like what they have been I will say there's a chance they throw a little bit more with the addition of Jerry Judy things like that but again it does come back to deshun Watson taking a step forward reigning number 10 ranked scoring offense so yeah I would say stefansky is doing a pretty good job keep on keeping on also keep on keeping on going over to DraftKings! our fine friends over at DraftKings that's right everyone we have partnered with DraftKings Sportsbook and right now all new customers who betes $5 will get $150 in bonus bets instantly download the DraftKings app now and sign up using our promo code fanasy life and yeah same game parlays are a freaking great time or just 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team that was pretty good Win totals/any futures bets last season again you know best defense in the NFL still a top 10 ranked scoring offense just an eight and a half win total with a minus 140 lean on the over here again with the juice kind of telling us the direction the Market's going and probably what we should be favoring but I do like the over here and I'm more confident in it than some of the other teams we've been talking about again just looking at the overall roster here I think it's one of the more complete you know top to bottom groups in football rning number one number one ranked defense how many times can I say that stay tuned and find out God forbid Watson just gives us League average play even slightly below average I think they can clear this eight and a half mark I'm in on the Browns man I I I struggle with this one again it comes back to deshun Watson but they were leading on only 26% of their plays last year typically for teams you know that are going to get over that number we're talking about it's going to be a little bit higher than that that's something I like to look at they were honestly a coin flip a lot of the time and so I feel like the ball really bounced their way last season now there's a long way you can fall from 11 wins to just be over an eight and a half um so again if Watson can clean up his act I think they end up getting over this if he doesn't he's looked more like what he's looked over the previous two seasons they're going to be under and I maybe I'm just burned in but I am going to take the under they were six and two in one score games if you look at their expected win loss record just based on point differential 9.4 and seven and six shout out to pro football reference so yeah maybe exactly you know didn't have all the underlying qualities of an 11- win team but hey take away two wins they Position battle: Is Jerry Jeudy WR2? still clear that Mark we shall see what happens but Dwayne mention him briefly but one of the new you know hopeful stars in Cleveland now former Broncos wide receiver Jerry Judy joining a backup you know group of wide receivers not backup but just non Amari Cooper group of receivers featuring Elijah moris Cedric Tilman David Bell amongst others so sure does seem like Judy is going to be the two I mean he got that three-year 52 million extension for a reason but we're also hearing you know more Elijah Moore propaganda Dwayne now just remember everyone when you're going through all this you know training camp Hye pay attention because you don't want to miss out on the next puka AA but make sure you ignore everything they say about Elijah Moore and Justin Ross and those other guys don't want to go down that route I'm not bitter at all Jan definitely didn't draft too much Elijah Moore last year but Judy is someone who I think really was flashing earlier in his career and that's reflected in his ESPN open score League's 10th best separator in 2021 11th in 2022 fell to 38th last year where really his most not worthy achievements were getting chewed out by Steve Smith on national TV and that one admittedly really cool time where he faked the forward pass while he was already downfield and it actually works so that was fun he's more affordable than ever interested in buying back low on Jerry Judy Dwayne uh I'm getting some shares but I I'm not trying to get overconfident in it I mean I think I think the big struggle we see with Jerry Judy is whenever teams really want to go man coverage and they want to press him like he's just not up to it and so that means at any moment he can be taken away and you've mentioned yourself a lot of times Zone really looks like man if there's no one else in the vicinity you know and and like your guy is your guy that can really be more like a man coverage play so 0.87 yards per route run last year against man coverage now that's not a super sticky stat year-over-year but that's been something that's been a bit of challenge for Jerry Judy for the course of his career so I I I just I'm challenged to find a way to think that he's going to earn that many targets and a balance to potentially run heavy offense where we've already talked about the consistency of Amari Cooper and I think David and joku is shown enough that he's a better player than Jerry Judy David and joku is not gonna get a 25% Target share or anything you know but he's gonna be enough he's GNA be around 20% Amari is probably G to be 23 24% like I just don't see the room for Jerry Judy and honestly I don't know how they paid him this money I don't know how the Browns went out there and paid him what he's getting um I'm pretty surprised by that so again willing to tack him on at the end of a draft but Jerry Judy is not a player that I'm going out of my way to Target 41 million guaranteed on that deal that was the part that kind of shocked me so yeah they are tied to him for at least these next two years not quite the uh Watson contract I think we can say but certainly not a great one either so it does sound like he actually might be the favorite to work out of the slot some of the words from mini camp for that Cedric Tilman could actually be the number three you know on the outside Judy in the slot Amari as you know they're tried and true number one but hey guys he already had plenty of you know snaps in the slot in Denver he already had a team that was featuring him and actually throwing the ball more than what we saw in Cleveland still couldn't make it work so I'm with you Dwayne you know he's wide receiver 61 pick 124 an early ADP going next to guys like Brandon Cooks Mike Williams jacobe Meyers so certainly don't have to draft him in round four like you know you did a few years ago as early as last year actually that was a freaking horrific mistake but yeah someone that again if I am build a brown stack maybe otherwise probably not buying too far back in you mentioned though Dwayne probably the number two pass game option in Cleveland Sleeper: David Njoku? is actually their tight end daav and the joku only averaged 0.12 fewer PPR points per game than George KD last season if we include playoff production for everyone he was actually the tight end five so the problem with nooku is unlike Amari Cooper he's had pretty Stark splits with and without Watson with Watson in 10 games only averaging 5.4 Targets in 34 yards without 7.6 targets and 60 yards the joku has failed to clear 60 yards even one time with Watson under Center and Dwayne I think we're seeing a bit of the impact of dual threat quarterbacks on the tight end in Cleveland because njoku if you watch the way they use him not too much going on downfield I know he's athletic enough to stretch the see him and everything but just a 4.8 yard ad do and I think the lack of checkdowns from Watson messes that up last year Watson had one of the highest scramble rates in the league and he regularly let pressures be turned into sacks meanwhile Joe Flaco never scrambled and was actually very good at not letting pressures turn to sacks so overall thoughts on the joku bouncing not bouncing back but honestly keeping on keeping on with Watson under Center he's certainly not being priced as someone that again at times last year was a top five producer at the position so his talent profile says he's a wide he's a tight end four to six like his talent profile over the last few years so he he's got the underlying Goods to make this thing work I think the question is what does happen with again DeShaun Watson all roads lead to the quarterback here surprise surprise but it is a small sample hey deshun Watson you want to go better than 200 passing yards per game start throwing the ball to freaking David and joku you nit with like come on man like a and a 7% scramble rate isn't unsurmountable like what you don't want to see is guys at 10 11% and then be thinking about trying to have two players from an offense takes us back to the Baltimore Ravens because that's where Lamar Jackson is at so I think it could still be okay I I think you're I think you're correct though it's the low a do players are who lose their targets when quarterbacks are willing to scramble whether that's the ti end on a swing P whether that's the tie end on a drag whether that's a running back on a swing pass those are the guys that are gonna get that are going to get hurt the most and deshaan Watson shown us over the course of his career Ian he wants to hold on to the ball longer and try to find the big plays down the field hasn't necessarily worked out here over the last couple of Seasons but that doesn't necessarily fit with the way they're trying to use David and joku so I get why drafters are a little bit nervous about this and right now I mean Brock Bowers goes ahead of David and joku at this point you know so I I have it as a tier Ian I've got really Evan Ingram Jake Ferguson David and joku Dallas SCD and Brock Bowers so if people want to keep passing him over like he's a guy that I do find T I find myself taking if I haven't taken one of the top five tight ends earlier in the draft backup quarterback not Joe Flaco anymore but it is jamus Winston who perhaps could open things up but you know we're not going to start comping and seeing what everyone's doing actually probably be good for the entire offense it it probably would help for Fantasy I'm not saying it's going to win you Browns a division or anything but for Fantasy jamus Winston would be better for everyone it'd be fun for the press conferences too I will say that final note here only Evan Ingram actually had more screen targets than the joku last year so again we're not saying the joku is gonna be crap or anything he's a Fantasy love consensus tight end 10 for a reason but it looked like he could actually start challenging you know that top five group down the stretch of last season when he was just going off week after week I do think there's far more concerned with the switch to Watson under Center for no joku than Amari Cooper and honestly the rest of this offense so takes us to our final part of the team previews Dwayne if the Browns TV/Movie Comps were a TV or movie character who would they be I am going with Darth Vader there's some obvious Talent here but let's face it a lot of people aren't really big fans of the leading character in Cleveland these days and yes there were much better days in the past you know before Anakin decided to kill all those kids and you know really go to the dark side people were behind him and looking at him at like one of the leading you know guys in the league or the Universe I guess in this case but yeah now on the dark side but hey Dwayne you know what the dark side looks pretty loaded so you know we'll see if we end up getting the Disney sort of ending where the good guys win or if maybe it's a bit more of a uh what was that movie 11 monkeys or whatever it was where maybe the bad guys go ahead and get things done as well so I got Darth Vader for the 2024 Cleveland Brown specifically you know your boy deshun Watson so good pull on 11 monkeys there well I'll go with an actor that was in 11 monkeys and Bruce Willis and I'll go with die hard it's a similar theme to you and it's Hans Gruber you know it's the villain everyone loves to hate and that's desun Watson right now people love to hate deshun Watson and his play is making it that much easier I mean they already hate him as a human being and now whenever you look what's happening with his play I think it's just so easy so yeah I'll go with Hans grber from die hard but really good one on Darth Vader appreciate you man and appreciate you guys for tuning in to another edition of the Fantasy Live podcast so we'll see what happens Browns fans but ultimately you guys have won 11 games and two of the last four years that's pretty freaking good relative to you know what was going on the previous 15 to 20 years so we'll see what happens in 2024 if you 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