JAKE QUICKENDEN | From losing my father to becoming one

hello Lads and lasses girls boys whatever want you call yourself these days welcome back to my podcast unmasked now today is a very different type of podcast but one that I love to talk about we're going to get deep we're going to get personal we're going to talk about Fame and everything in the public eye and I have got the perfect guest to help me do that now he is a man that was there when me and my boyfriend and Jordan first met so this is very special because we've not seen each other since and I followed him since being a young girl as well now I always say Jake Quinton but it's Jake Quint Quint Quinton quick quick n and den Jake quick and den yeah broken up broken up Jake we need to talk about that time cuz I need I need to get off the system first I literally just spoke to J he messaged me saying like have a good podcast and I was like I might talk about youth for the whole time cuz I love him he's such a what a nice guy I met him playing footy yeah you did no on the night out and then seen him again playing footy and I just thought do you know when you just get along with someone straight away and he's so sound he is and then when he told because he didn't say anything about YouTu for a little while and then I was messaging him and he told me and I was like I'm so buzzing for you like he's such a nice guy remember that night that we met at the Jo on to cancer cancer you were there it was it was me you your wife Jordan Nathan of us and it was just our little gang wasn't it class and you know when I look back at all the videos I mean we've been dating like 10 months but when I look at back at the videos it's all of us sitting together yeah it's mad you all went to karaoke yeah I bing I was boring when I actually I wanted you to come I'm old now mate but you and Jordan singing that would have been a moment Jordan's a singer loves it he's got a great voice I know but before we'll go into that right CU we'll talk about the sing thing what I want to know is that I don't really know about but your background like before the f let's just go back to you back and for we are Northerners and I think you know being brought up in the north would you see the north say the north yeah being brought up in the north we have a very different upbringing like what I've realized is people down south and stuff like that but like I don't actually know about your background and you grow and your in your childood and growing up and stuff like that so like that like i' I had such an amazing childhood like my mom and dad were the best and my two brothers we got on I was a bit naughty at school like any lad all I wanted to do was play football all I wanted to do every day did didn't you yeah I played I played for scunny United and then at 17 I flew to Australia and I did two years out there playing in one under their top league so I did that at 17 like just flew out with my best mate got a house our house that we lived in I say house it was a room yeah we had one room there was three others in it we had bunk beds and a single bed a kitchen in a toilet and that's it we live you did that at the age of 17 I flew out there she 17 years old you were living in Australia on your own yeah doing football yeah yeah it was mad like it was it's what I always wanted to I actually got [ __ ] at footy when I was out there because then that's when I realized how how much of the Aussies drank and I was like trying to keep up with her and I was like I'm actually really bad at footing now I need to go home the Aussies can drink they can drink like they can wake up and have a bottle of be yeah likey and when the sun shine it makes everything better well I call it the star Sally H yeah it is it is it makes everything better but before that just like just a fairly normal kind of upbringing like I say I was really close to my my Mom and Dad yeah uh really close family kind of knit yeah um and so after so obviously like growing up you talk about your football but then what about the singing so the singing was like I always I remember I was on holiday in like turkey I'm sure it was every northern northern holid tury W up the fake handbags made come back with like Gucci um I was about 13 yeah and I remember I really fancied this girl and she was like 15 and I remember Rance yeah holiday romance and I sang I sang to her at 13 outside the outside the room and I sang A Ron and Keaton song cause a smile on your face that's the one that's what I sang What a banger that was by the way I sat on the par bench um and I sang that and she was like you've got a really nice voice and that's the first time really that I'd ever sang and then I did karaoke on that same holiday and I remember everyone like come up to me and be like course You' got a nice voice like turns out Simon Cal didn't think that but but everyone like said that and I was like oh sweet and that was kind of my first kind of taste of music do you know what I mean yeah but then at school and that I've always I've always liked to be the center of attention it's changed a lot now like you know what I mean like everything used to be ego didn't it when you was younger and I was having this with my M like earlier how your priorities change when you get older as I was younger I love being center of attention love being Class Clown so that's why I kind of like doing stuff like that I get what you mean there because I feel like when I was younger it was cool to be the silly one yeah it was cool to like you know not be naughty but you know the loud one of the class that was like the cool thing that's what I was I always wanted to be the funny one yes the funny one the one that like on a night out I'll always end up doing something stupid oh remember what you did last night you wanted everyone to talk about yeah and and as I've got older that is totally flipped totally flipped but like I say younger started singing that age but I was never interested in being a singer I never thought I want to be a singer I still don't think I I I am a singer like I'm not I I did The X Factor and that's kind of what gave me my stepping ston do you know what I mean massive um but I always wanted to be a footballer and I went through jobs I was a lifeguard I worked at McDonald's I worked at Topman and I kind of kind of got let go from most of them for like either not turning up because I had a 4ot match or like that and like I always knew that that that you weren't meant to be there yeah like I kind felt I kind of was not destined cuz that's cringe isn't it but I kind of what mean you don't want to see it I always wanted to do something more yes you wanted to be in the and I needed control over what I were doing because I'm very I flip from one thing to the other I'm either if I like something I really like it and I get so obsessed if I'm not I'm out you know what I mean life I don't know if you've ever seen lifeguard sat on that chair [ __ ] hell honestly the most boring it's roasting by the PO I know this is awful I know it's awful but I bet you can't wait for like something to happen never never did bet you just sitting there like when it happen nothing ever like you're like highlight of the day is blowing your whistle when someone's running you know what I mean stop running but yeah so I had so many jobs yeah and then I got released from skunthorp United when I played for them um I broke my leg really badly [ __ ] yeah it was a bad break and I I I was playing a game that I shouldn't have been playing in which was stupid I broke my leg bad bone came I was 16 so my bone came through my skin and dislocated my ankle and they said that I'd probably never play again oh um which was like for me I was like well your world would have ended really yeah I thought I'm not going to be a footballer took me a while to get back and then my best mate who I'm still best mates with now he got offered this um like trial in Australia and i' just got better from my leg I was back running I was back trying to get fit and he was like why don't you come out with me like they've said they'll give you a trial for the for the team so I was like sweet all right let's just drop everything I had no money no nothing uh I think my mom and dad gave me a couple of grand to be able to like get settled and then there was like then you need to do your own thing you get a job or you make playing footy I had a trial game they offered me a a year contract so I signed that I didn't end up staying for the full year um I came back after about six months and then went back to being a brick layer where M really so my dad was a bricky my older brother's still a bricky yeah like and I loved it I love being actually cuz I would call it like prop a graft yeah I that is like graft isn't it everyone always look I think people are so quick to judge people by their exterior I mean how they look and that they'll go it does his air he's got massive fake tee yeah he's not going to be a bricky loved it honestly such a character building like job to be around a group of guys different ages like the oldest guy was like 65 mate used to eat ra raw onions yeah what Legend oh my God I used to love it St he was a ledge man honestly I didn't mind it he was a proper boy and I went back and did that for a bit and then I got an email from another team in Australia my best mate was still there and they offered me another contract and I was like I'm going to fly out again so did you did you go back yeah I went back went back out there signed for another team and I wasn't in the same team as my best mate we was in separate teams but we still live together yeah um and I found it really hard that year for like the first two months I was so homesick I hated every second like I really felt like I'd lost who I was yeah and then all of doing all these different things or you're going from like football and a brick Lan and then obviously like obviously you would have been gone out and all the and then you like this thing so all these different things yeah it's like what you said like you know how the hell do you find yourself amongst all these different things I don't think I did I don't I don't think I truly found myself probably up until a couple of years like honestly all these different things yeah I've I've flittered from one thing to the other and like I tried to be a musician I tried to be a footballer I tried to do this tried to do that so when I went back out I was really struggling and um I actually remember my dad was really poorly at the time my dad had cancer yeah uh and he was like you've got to go just go do it it's your dream like we get one life so I was screw it I'm going to fly back out there went out there really home siek for a bit and then I remember sat outside one of the bars they do like jugs of beer out there don't they had a jug of beer yeah and I just like was looking around I was 18 and I just thought life is so good like I'm I'm who gets chance to do this absolutely yeah and then literally like a month later outside that same bar my M my my mom rang me and was like your dad's took a turn for the wor you're going to have to come home [ __ ] so I was like right okay and I remember the lad that I was living with Ross um he was a bit older and me and Tom lived with him he packed my case for me he bought me a fly he did everything for me cuz I was in a bit course absolutely 18 as well and I was on a flight that same night flew home um and my yeah my dad kind of was getting worse and worse and luckily he he he stayed stayed around for like another year and a half I'm just glad I flew home do you know what I mean I'm glad I flew home and yeah and then went back to like what do I do now kind of thing like football dream was over what do I do what and then did you move on to the singing so the singing so the singing came about is after my dad passed when I was 20 um I was like what am I going to do again flittering from jobs yeah and um I said to my mom will you will you get us a guitar for Christmas she's always do you know mom's like what do you want for Christmas I was getting to that age where I'm like just get me some socks man yeah just anything mean I need some socks just like no open them the socks ugly go yeah thank you that all you got me um so I said look bu was a cheapo guitar from that Aros or something I'm going to teach myself guitar because my dad always wanted to play the guitar yeah and he always used to say to me like learn to play an instrument because it'll never leave you and then as well I think like I I can imagine your F you need a focus at that age as well obviously listen as a as a not that I've ever lost someone it's very hard to understand but for a young lad to lose his father and you know obviously being so young as well I think you would have needed like a FOC to help and and I think what it is yeah and I found that with life in itself I always need something to focus on um I need a routine Absolut like and I've always been like that and that's just the way my mind works I need a routine so I was like bow a guitar my mom was like you won't you won't teach yourself you won't stick at it the only thing you've ever stuck at he's playing footy and I was like no trust me buy me I didn't even want to be a singer I just wanted to learn to play the guitar of course and then like any more I was I was sat singing one day and she was like you should go on The X Factor do you know what I mean like just one we all watched it in we back that was when it was Peak it was I think my year was just falling was it just going in I think the peak years were like the One Direction years and stuff and it was it was still massive do you know what I mean and uh she was like go for The X Factor so I was like all right like I do like I I don't want loads of hard work no I just want easy you want to a couple days week easy life so I went to The X Factor got got through the first few rounds and I actually remember when I got through my first round I walked into boot camp yeah um and the first person I heard singing was James ala because I did 2012 God I did as well I did 2012 with James and Ryland and all them lot yeah yeah and then I went back that was a good one yeah great year that is a good one went to Dubai and I remember just being at boot camp and I heard James singing in uh in one of the rooms and I remember ringing my mom and being like hey Mom I'm [ __ ] coming out and she's like what you mean I went I I've got not a chanting L yeah but did he have the guitar he had he had the guitar he was singing on that he was he's still I seen him the other day he's a really nice guy I've met him a few times as well and I was just like there's not a chance in hell my mom was like just stick it out you never know what could happen of course so I went to Dubai got free holiday out of it and yeah didn't get through didn't make the finals look at that experience a great experience and then I think that's kind of made me I was like look maybe this is what I want to do not maybe not the singing but being on stage or performing or presenting acting or something like maybe that's what I want to do like and yeah it turned out like that to be fair though Jake like you are very good at it I remember watching you um and you are very good at being on stage like even sitting doing these podcasts now like I know obviously we've had all the years of growing up in TV but like at that young age to for yourself and have that much confidence like listen not many people have got it do you know I mean you can do TV and you can do whatever we do but if you've got it you got it but if you haven't you haven't I think you got to put yourself out there you've got to and you've got to have the confidence of course and just have like no f think I'm going to do it so I applied for the X fact now did you it is really can you sing I think I can can you give us a bit no no Jordan says I'm not that good and I'm like I'm actually really good so when he sings I try and overpower him but when I was younger I did apply for the fact that now people don't know this but before you go on the TV auditions you know you have about 10 before you have about 10 so I had did I don't think I got through the second one so I had the first one you only got one you only got the one like now you're done just nine judges but I remember how nerve-wracking it was because it was you know the same setup I was in Newcastle all my friends were there but it was like full of um obviously people auditioning then they did film it still they do film it but it's not obviously F when you are singing and then you see somebody dressed like a chicken and then come out and they've got through yeah I wonder if it was the year that you did then what probably was it's like load I remember just every time I got through I was like to my mom I'm throughing Another Round Here and then I yeah and then I remember when they said you going to judges houses I was like all right I might be able to get to the live shows absolutely yeah and then obviously I didn't yeah and then I had a year out um 2013 and then my little brother passed away Jake I can't believe these stories you know honestly what the [ __ ] yeah it was it was tough but I always say like now like I'm quite open talking about it and I guess for some yeah but I also guess for some people like listening like it's it can be a bit of a broken Rec but for me talking about my my dad and my brother is like what keeps them alive what keeps their memory alive probably help you as well it helps me and I know that it helps other people that go through grief because if you haven't been through grief and you haven't kind of experienced it you don't really know how to navigate it and it can be a horrible thing to navigate and and still now like 10 15 years on from losing my dad 15 years ago I can't believe it yeah like I still have [ __ ] days and and still have [ __ ] days so 2013 was a bad year Oliver had passed but Oliver passed away with cancer as well yeah cancer as well yeah so my dad died of something called Myoma and my little brother died of something called osteocom so I've just literally just ran the marathon for SAA all yeah we'll get that as well yeah yeah so that was amazing that i'm a patron for their charity now because only a really small charity um and he passed I kind of like I was in a bit of a bad way for year how old were you at this point I was 23 and then this is at the PE of everything as well so you've been our next so I'd done 2012 so I'd made judges houses and then Oliver pass so people would stop us a little bit it won't like you know what I mean still was social media then that's why it wasn't it wasn't and that was quite a good thing Twitter was quite big but Instagram never was it was brutal Twitter Twitter Twitter I've come off Twitter now file I'm off it um but yeah like it wasn't huge and then they actually contacted me in 2014 xfactor and was like would you come back oh my God aming and I was like you know what yeah why not why not let's go back see how it goes so I did all the auditions again and and made the live shows this time and I thought oh my God and I was like I'm going to [ __ ] win and then three weeks in I got voted out and I was like yeah but listen look how far you got well this is what I it's like having that sort of Second Chance isn't it yeah I'm a I'm a huge believer in like everything happens for a reason like everything and even to the point where I try and look at the [ __ ] things that have happened like losing people and there's no good in losing parents friends there's no good in it but you have to try and see a positive thing in everything yeah and I'm like that and I always say like without losing them I wouldn't look at life the way I do now of course you do yeah I bet you look at life so much differently though as well you just got to embrace it every little thing I bet you're like doesn't matter yeah I try I try it's hard like like mentally up and down and stuff like that but I just know that where you're meant to be mhm right now you are is where you me you know what I mean so I am exactly where I'm meant to be what will be will be I have it with so far time I'm like I didn't get this job or I got overlooked for that and this and that and it hurts like as especially being in our industry it's it's it's an amazing industry but it can be pretty [ __ ] as well of course and and I want to talk to you about that because I feel like you'd be honest about it like for me right you know being in Jordi Shaw it's very different where looking upon as being the wild crazy people so we don't really get that much work believe it or not like you know obviously having a little bit more of a cleancut image you're very lucky like you get to do other shows and you get to like have a bit of a better profile and like obviously some people on J show being able to do that but most of us we we haven't even been able to like really prove ourselves assure ourselves of like who we actually are because you know doing podcast like everyone will have a misconception of you everybody does like people people will see and I used to be really bad for this I'm not going to lie like I used to watch TV like years years back and go don't like them [ __ ] blah blah blah but then I'm like why do I think that I don't know that person like I've never met her and you know what TV's like these days yeah and and I always say like now I will never ever have a misconception about anyone until I've met him and had a conversation with him and then I can go actually what people say Jud book by C should never do it and especially in our industry when you can like obviously people can make you look like these crazy wild get us wrong like we love life and we did and we partied but I think I loved show was so good you liked it didn't you remember met watching like me and me and Tom who I lived with in Australia we used to watch it all the time and it was just at that point it was like that's what young people were doing yeah that's what we were going you g became good friends didn't you yeah I know G I know Gaz pretty well and do you know what I've met most of the Jordi sh a lot and and all a great bunch I mean people we just watching you go out and get absolutely slaughtered listen that's what we did but like now that what all our social media came around we did you know most of us did struggle and like what I want to say to you is for me personally like I you know was was working all the time and I was doing everything but it got a period in me life where things started quiet and down and I started to really worry you know I wasn't financially stable as much as what I was there was obviously a lot more reality shows and stuff like that came along and like I really panicked I think it was last year um I'll be honest with you like last year about a year and a half ago just after the co thing I was doing a podcast with Charlotte and I remember going downstairs in a Costa and I had3 pound in the bank really like I had nothing Jake and this is when people think we're multi-millionaires and I couldn't afford a coffee and I said to my dad cuz I was so you know I know I could ask my friends let money and all that but I thought I can't do it I've got too much pride yeah so I messaged me Dad and I was like please can you just transfer some money in my bank and he was like absolutely so he did and it helped us get back on my feet and people that's what you need sometimes you just need a little help in Hand of course and and and I like to be honest like I don't want to say yeah we know we lorded and and you know on Instagram might look like that but my mom had my bank card for honestly like I didn't I was in in control of my finances for a while I am now now I've got a house and stuff like that but when my when my dad passed I got a bit of money left by him and I just blew it I just blew it I I wasn't thinking about houses in the future and you never do when you're young you know what I mean and I think like in our indust this is why people often say like [ __ ] LJ you'll do every show Under the Sun too right I will that's your job too right I will if somebody comes in to me and says as long as it's right yeah of course but they'll say do you want to do this show do you want to do that show yeah that cuz that's my job now of course and you're still looky that you know you you are still I can't believe 10 years on that I'm still somehow kicking around and and doing bits of presenting and I'm I'm doing another tour I got into doing musicals and stuff like that and that's kind of I think we always have to kind of Rebrand ourselves in a way and regrow and like the reality TV stuff I love yeah I love I love being myself on camera and having a l the best thing is it you get proof in yourself but I also wanted to use any talent that ad yeah and do the acting and do the the musical theater and stuff like that and it just gives less worry for me is the fact that I can maybe if I'm not getting any TV work there's there's stuff that I can do I can go I can go and do an acting job and a musical or a Pano even a Pano people turn the nose up at Panos mate pan you get so good money as well it's great money's the money is brilliant but also like it's hard work it's fun you get to spend time with great people yeah so I will grab any work handed to me and take it because I could get diagnosed with cancer tomorrow I could get run over by a car and and pass away and I don't want I don't want to ever think I should have done that I should have done this so now I just think just take your chances take your opportunities and just [ __ ] and roll with it and you will everything's like this I worry all the time mate like I'm it's like we've got to be honest like it is it is a scary industry that we're in like you know a lot of a lot of you know people have got like really stable jobs and you know that's never going to go anywhere like even for me getting a mortgage and stuff like that was absolutely nightmare because you know getting married yeah getting houses getting mortgages it's like fing H I'm grown course yeah but I think as well like I I don't know if about you but with fame um and S like being in the public eye there has been times like I've really really struggled same and and I think like it's good cuz I know you can relate but there's been times where I've had that um what's it called um imposter syndome syndrome I've had that so many times and I've only I've only found out what that was so I remember like back in the day seeing me and me and Charlotte would would go out and about and people would always recognize Charlotte because you know she was quite well known yeah but I'd always make that joke of like they would go like oh can I get a thought with you and I'd be like no why me she's more famous than me that Charlotte because I could never accept that I was like in the public ey too so I think you know it's sad to look back because sometimes like I'd say not the PHS because I thought like why does anyone want them for me and I used to it is imposter syndrome and it's hard to it's hard to not have that sometimes because like for me I'd never want I'd never want people to think I'm above my station no like I I I'm I'm no better so humble I'm no better than anybody else so hum that's the thing that pisses me off when I meet people and and I I think why are you being a tossa like we all get up in the morning we all have a shower we all have a [ __ ] we all we all get dressed you know what I mean like and we're all we're all exactly the same like I've worked all jobs everybody should be treated the same everybody should be kind of on the same level nobody's above anybody so that's that's that was my that that was always my thing so when everyone asks for a photo or whatever to me it's like of course yeah I would never ever say no to a photo like why would I yeah the only reason they ask for for is because my job is a bit different than their job my job just sometimes put on the TV yeah and and you can make someone happy and and and do that then why would you not and I think as well like being in the public eye you know it can work CU not everyone wants to be like what you say famous people don't want it yeah because it comes with good and bad it comes with good and bad but I think for you this what I want to get at like for you right and I think you have used it to your advantage and you have you have helped so many people and you know like I do want to look up to you because you know I want to help more people and I want to do things and listen it's never too late and obviously what you've went through as well like you can you can openly talk about you know the stuff that you've had to go through but for you using your profile and using your I would say like theme or whatever you've helped so many people and and and you're doing what charities now you're doing ons and I'm trying do you know what it is for me it's like I've been given this kind of platform and and these followers and and and all this and and before maybe when I first came off the X Factor even the jungle I I look back on like the the stuff I used to post and the stuff I used to be bothered about and this is what I was getting out with what me and me and the MS were saying about priorities like I used to be driven by ego I used to be driven by I want to get this job because I want to have a massive house I want to drive a Ferrari all the best clothes like All Saints and Zara don't like I'm not bothered about like anything like big anymore like I buy the old by the like nice treat for myself but that's it so I was I I used to be driven by ego and like what where can it get me and now I'm like actually you've been given a platform why not use it for a bit better and you're still going to get people going with you blah blah blah but now like I did I did the marathon because I wanted to help last night it was [ __ ] horrendous honestly it was the hardest thing I've ever you dressed as a bone as well I was dressed as a bone and it [ __ ] rained mate and it was made out of foam it was like running in a massive wet Spong melted wet sponge mate every I could just hear it squelching nobody wants a crumble B it was horrendous and people were going go on tooth they thought it was a tooth and I was thinking you saying that about I thought it was your tooth and then they like no it was B like thought everyone thought it was a tooth the amount of people that went go tooth and I was just like cheers how the heck did you have to train hard for that though I'm honestly I'm so bad so when saom so I shaved my head in lockdown for saom raised a bit of money seen raised a little bit of money for that and then I got talking to everyone at the charity and I was like look like they're a small charity they said do you want to be a patron do you want to work more with us and I was like absolutely like saom is it's quite a common cancer it's it's soft tissue and Bone um osteocom which Oliver had it usually affects like teens really yeah so it's like and how if you don't mind ask how old was he Oliver was 16 when he got diagnosed and he was 19 when he passed so young so it affects so I wanted to kind of like draw eyes to it to make people more aware um and then they said yeah do you want to do the Marathon this year and I was like absolutely and me being me I love my fitness I train every day anyway you look really well I'm I'm just I just it's got to a point now where it's a routine for me to train like I TR yeah it's in your day so I was like right ego ego clicked in again for me and I was like I want to run it in sub 330 I want to be fast as that's a good Eagle though that's a good eag yeah I wanted to do it I wish I had that so I went out and I was training I was I was doing I was doing my five 10ks I was building up and then they came to me and was like do you want to run as a bone and I was like yeah why not more people would see me as a yeah absolutely so when when I signed up to run it as a bone I stopped training as much so the furthest run I did was 10 about 10 and a half 11 miles so when you think about you're actually running 26 yeah so 11 miles in a lot and I remember like setting off on the day and thinking I go to the gym I'll be fine this is going to be I would have been the yeah I'm running a m look at me dress as bone still passing you and all that yeah half marathon time I was like I'm I'm running quick here this is nice yeah 15 miles mate I have never felt pain like it in my life right on what is it like just num my my my my lungs and my heart were fine my legs honestly felt like they weren't mine my hip flexors were tight you just running or while you walking so I I didn't my first walk was at 20 miles right so I managed to get to 20 miles the last six miles took me two and a half hours oh my God I can run 10K usually in about 40 minutes took me two and a half hours and every time I started like having a little walk people were going God go on to I bet you like the E the E and but I finished it in I think five hours which I wasn't happy with but when I look back on it now it wasn't about my time it was about the fact that i' done what you did it before 15 and a half Grand R yeah I was going to ask 15 and a half Grand 15 and a half grand for a small charity like that is pretty massive like that will help him get research and that'll help him talk to people over the phone and this is what I'm saying obviously without like you know the profile and the followers and stuff like this this is how much it's helped yeah 100% And and that's why I'll never turn down like maybe going on on the loose women and and talking about grief course and talking about losing people and talking about all being a new dad because new dads find it hard as well do you know what I mean and if if somebody in the public eye can go out there and talk about something like that then it can if it helps one person one person might think you just [ __ ] attention seeking two people might not have an opinion but it helps three people then the people like I'm trying I'm trying to do my bit like but obviously for men see it's obviously different I'm a woman but what I was going to ask you I know you've talked a lot about like mental health especially in men and I do with women as well like some days if you're feeling [ __ ] like I am that girl though that needs everyone to know yeah yeah yeah yeah but growing up in a household of Jordie Shaw full of very you know ego men big Lads it was never talked about with them and I know obviously Aon talked a lot about it most of them do most of the lads do but I was grown up in obviously the Jordy Shaw household where it was just like the boys were always fine and obviously for the girls that was the same as like when when I used to watch Geor show like in in when I was younger how old are you 33 so we was same ages like I was watching you it was never it was never spoken about when I was watching Jor shw in in foty changing rooms even as a brickie it was never spoke about's mental health so I think it's amazing now that people are starting to talk about it more because it does affect everybody mental health will affect every single person at one point in the life whether or not it's grief whether or not it's depression anxiety social anxiety overthinking do you know what I mean like it affects everybody so the fact that there's been a bit of a turn in the way we look at things now and it's less about being ly lad and going out getting pissed it's more about I I go to bed at [ __ ] 9:00 I get up at 6 o'cl I'm with Leo I go to the gym I try and eat a bit better now I don't drink as much as what I used to and I'm just like everything I'm doing now is setting me up to have hopefully a longer life a longer life and and you know I think recently as well a lot more people have going sober yeah it's not as cool to Fallout a clubs anymore it's not when back in the day it was cool to be on stories listen don't get us wrong I stories when I'm drunk but I'll cringe the next day but back in the day you know going out and falling out of clubs and and and being ratchet was quite cool beon honestly it gives me pure anxiety thinking about going but even thinking about going to a club and getting messy and then waking up the next day and going oh my God that or did this and like how many times like Kebab laid next to me in theed stinks of garlic sick on the floor like but that was and times changed that's all it is like have changed and it's and it's not as cool now and I think you've got we have to think about like younger Lads I've got Freddy who's nine my little stepson I've got my little boy who's two and a half like I want him to go out and have fun go party gooy also like like let them know that like if you don't want to do it yeah it's fine like you don't have to you don't have to do it just because it's the I age with you I agree with you I think like you know when I've been out in the past with a group of friends and deep down I'm like I'm not drinking T night I don't really want to go out cuz I know I'm going to feel horrendous I'm not going to be productive I'm going to feel like crap I've got loads of things booked in but when I'm with the gang and they're like come on let's go out and I do it and the next day I think what have I done but that's just I I think as you get older your your circles always get smaller because when I was 16 17 18 19 20 into my 20s early 20s even after like X Factor and the jungle like going to clubs going on tables did you do Pas loads of PA table you get a bottle of sparkers um all my mates had come along and my circle started getting smaller when I stopped going out as much and partying as much but then I think that's not a bad thing man like the people that are sticking around you when you're when you're saying mate I'm going to have an early night tonight I'm going to probably just go to bed or do you want to go for a takeaway we'll go get we'll go get some food maybe have one beer but I'm not having a late one and they go yes and then you're not sat opposite each other and he's going come on let's have [ __ ] 10 more beers let's go out cu the thing is where are them people when you feel like [ __ ] yeah do you know what I mean they're not going to ring in and check on your other no they they're there for nights hour the party and you have different friendship groups like you always have different people you play I've got people that I train with I've got people now that I just go for a bit of breakfast with I've still got my best mate all my best mates are still my best mates that I grew up with from like seven and eight playing footy with they're all dads now they're all older they don't they they still have a drink every now and again Gonic of night you know what I mean but I I'm I'm not sober I'm not totally sober but I definitely don't drink as much as I used to I definitely don't go out looking to party like so like your priorities are different they're different so said to me the day do you want to go to cream fields and I was like I love that [ __ ] I was like do you want to go to [ __ ] cream Fields I was like absolutely bloody not I can't think anything worse than the same playing for S hours off to creamfield me she not going there with you lot [ __ ] that now I was like absolutely not she's like why I was like it's just not me anymore for you yeah and and I'm like if you want to go you go [ __ ] have a have a good time but I don't want to do it and and she's so sad and she was like that's fine like yeah and and that's why being in that kind of relationship as well so's not a huge Drinker she she hardly drinks anymore as well um but if she wants to go to greenfields and have a party I'm not going to be like you're not going I'm guest list if she want guest list go um but like yeah I just think priorities change so much yes especially when you throw a kid in the mix like Leo now he's two in a bit um me and Jordan were watching you know Jordan's obsessed with with having a little boy and I'm really worried in case I can't give him one I think it's going to be a girl not that pregnant you know what you know what we when when sof was pregnant we actually both thought it was a little girl for some reason we both thought it was a little girl so I kind of prepared myself for a little girl girl yeah and then when Leo came I was like like you will be so happy no matter what sex that baby happens with that baby like you will be super happy because it's like again I can't imagine not having Leo now yeah like the way he is and if I could have if I could have like wrote down on a bit of paper the kind of baby that I wanted him to be yeah that's exactly what he I want he's cheeky he's full watch all the videos now like he's just he's just amazing is he is being a dad has just like changed my life and don't get me wrong it's [ __ ] hard work yeah I know I've heard it's hard work it's tiring it's like the the sleep deprivation at the beginning is just I remember I've heard about the Sleep say I love me sleep I absolutely love me sleeping well if you have a baby I know and everything changes but of course you've got your baby there and you know all the lack of sleep in the world doesn't matter as long as there was times and when Leo was a newborn cuz he was um he was a bit allergic to like certain milks and he didn't see I remember seeing this and this is quite common now you know yeah he was quite he was he didn't sleep at all and there was there was points when like I'm not even afraid to say it like me and S I remember we just got him back down and we'd had like maybe I'm not even joking 20 minutes sleep in the night and we both sat on the bed and just cried and we was like well of course it's but it's real this is what people don't talk about J we literally sat and cried and was like I'm so tired how how are we going to just keep doing this over and over again but it gets easier and it's so worth it and I remember my my best bet who I lived with Australia God I feel like I'm talking about him loads I know like he's going to be he's shout I'll get him on next yeah get him on he um he had a baby just before I did yeah remember I remember ringing him one one time facetimed him and he's on this walk pushing the pr and he was [ __ ] pale he had these bags under his eyes you look like someone after Walking Dead right God yeah and I went are you all right and he was like he went this is the hardest thing I've ever done in my life oh my God Sant sop was just got pregnant I was and I went oh shut up man I was like it's easy like come on it's going like it'll be amazing like it's surely amazing he like it's the best thing but get ready you are going to be in for a shock and I was like mate I don't need sleep like I can I can function two weeks after Leo I rang him and I went [ __ ] hell mate you weren't lying was you're like this is I I want to ask you more about s cuz obviously me and Jordan like you know we're going for everything now we're excited you I'm I'm excited it's going to happen you know it's going to happen kids marriage I think I have the kids first we had like I've got I'm going through a lot of tests right now I've got like fertility tests and apparently I've got quite a few cyst on me ovaries and it worries us of course cuz I don't know how easy it'll happen or if it'll happen at all fingers crossed of course it's going to happen I know it but I'm going through like a few tests right now and obviously me and JN are going through like a little bit of a struggle cuz we don't know what the outcome's going to be and obviously I'm 33 now so time does take a lot more when you're older and I know I've got eggs and stuff and it's going to be fine but um what I was going to ask you about you and S like you've been together now how long oh God uh four and a bit four and a bit years and you're married we're married now yeah we're married we moved in quite soon fine so this is what was going it fine man like 10 months yeah 10 months probably about the same yeah probably about the same and then were you planning babies or not yeah we were we were we um we went to Barley and um we was on holiday in barley I actually broke my neck on the second day you like that breaking things oh M I'm the worst I'm so clumsy so I don't your finger I broke it it's been your leg neck this I broke everything um I broke my neck on the second day and then we had two weeks out there and we came back and sofh was pregnant but but she lost it oh so so we didn't put PR pressure on ourselves after that we was like what's going to be we'll be like and obviously she was devastated and it was quite a hard kind of navigation for me because I was like I didn't know how she felt and obviously I was well of course it's different for the woman man like they're carrying the baby so so it was a bit of a hard time with that um and then yeah we we kind of was like look we'll just just leave it be yeah I don't we'll just keep doing what we're doing yeah every once every four weeks um and then yeah when you're married trust um and then yeah and then she got pregnant a and it was really worrying the first obviously few moments got keep it on the wraps and everything and then yeah and then it just just beautiful when oh I just yeah she was just so tell me now what does it feel like to be your dad just it's just it's just you can't explain it honestly you can't explain it when I'm not sometimes when I put him to bed I want to go wake him up what was he saying I watched he I watched it he was going so I say I say night night baby and he goes night night Daddy and then I say byebye and he goes byebye and then I go I love you and he goes you I was watching you yeah he just shouts you so if I slow it down and go I he'll go I love you but if I go I love you he just goes you and I'm like but the thing is like I'm worried about when he says I love you full and stop saying you I'm going to miss it and I'm like and he mate he starts he calls me dad now imagine I'm like Dad imagine when he's older you know like when you're seeing a bird and and they never say love you the boys never say love you and she's like love you and it just goes you she'd be like you need to start seeing that you're love and You' be like you you do you know what though the I think that's the best thing about social media is I'm going to have all these little videos and all these little pictures of him like as bab because I don't have I don't have anything of me really when I was younger [ __ ] black and white you get to save them all don't you I've got them all and like on his 18th birthday all these funny photos come out the one what about in the future anymore yeah we've kind of spoke about it recently like it has to happen sooner rather than later we want we want the baby to be not too much younger than Leo yeah yeah um so it's definitely definitely on the cards like I think but again what will be be course of course but if you if you could obviously you'd have yeah like I love being a dad and I know and she's an amazing Mom do you know what I mean so another one look [ __ ] amazing she's a bit she's she's just like just just she she hardly even goes too she's a mil and you're a bloody tilt I'll take that I Haven I haven't been called a d no do you know what she yeah she's in she's super mom if I'm honest yeah she works her ass off she's really really really nice like a nice person do you say do you say tat or t like a bit of old tat or bit tat s says to where's she from Essex Essex yeah M it [ __ ] makes me fuming when she says stuff what else does she said giz um no what is it was it Giza no no um [ __ ] what I need to ring her because it pisses me right off what's that word she says so what you going to write so so there's a word that so says that really annoys me don't if just SL us off don't worry I'll cut it out oh is Leo asleep on you put him on the dog bed he's on the dog bed that's not actually a dog bed by the way it's a human dog bed he not just sleeping with a dog right we're just on the podcast what's what's that word you say not tat and T the other one that you say and I always say no it's not that no there's a there's a word that you say and I say it it's not cuddle is it oh tigle tigle tigle oh God I'm G to have to go me bye so she says tickle what is tickle tickle what tickle tickle what she says tickle no she says tickle tickle yeah oh right so if you was to tickle TI tickle her to make stop tickling she'll go oh g a tigle or I'm going to tigle you no and I'm like you need yeah I'm like sock it's tickle and she says it and I've also heard people in Essex say it and I'm like listen I don't know let me ring Jordan does see if he says tigle I'll human if he says TI this is our um our Essex Partners they've got nothing on the KN no the n's the one in it let it unless you from imag P you no yeah Jordan a quick one you know like you know if you tickled me would what would you call it in ethics yeah tickle is it with a key or a g or a g what is it a tigle or a tickle yeah tickle t c c i c k so it's not a tigle yeah not a tigle it's igle is that no it was a tigle exactly exactly right okay right okay that just sums it up man I'm getting a divorce cuz of this so basically Jake's bird she's from essic but she calls a tickle tickle no tickle so where is she getting this from then oh I don't want to know right okay bye where I where she get that from this needs to be like some kind of pole or something we need an all tickle is not a word for me so is it tigle or tickle tickle right okay okay so it's tickle and also it's tat tat if you bought some old T yeah oh I love that bit of tat yeah she what about this one what about a turn I'm going to say a turn tonight the [ __ ] is that so it's like you know like Elvis Presley tribute we'll be like oh we go watch the turn tonight and it's a big turn nah no you don't say that I'm going to watch a tribute act oh no there's so many different things I would say why do you say turn yes well say I'm going to say the turn tonight but Jordi say so many random stuff say do you know any Jordy words not really no mortal yeah that's a good one that's a good one what about Gan going out yeah yeah that you just say that really quick I know what about G the T for a Bott of bro going for a beer yeah [ __ ] hell come on that really good where you going tonight yeah yeah um you're just by the way you're just saying words in your accent short what about um um he's an absolute rajie what does rajie mean see if I had to said Rie I'd say it was a bad thing but I think you're saying that as a good thing yeah like it would be like you're crazy like it is absolutely nuts crackers so it's a good thing it's not bad it's not bad um what about um I'm GM GM Yem y means home we have one that isn't it cuz it doesn't really just don't mean anything yeah we've there's so many weird phrases J is such a hard accent to a hard hard accent hard accent SK for has nothing what was skum like it's quite good there it's got a nice Beach isn't it no my friend lives in scum he's always at the beach I think that looks like a really nice be really are you sure you not thinking scabra no it was nases maybe skegness got maybe I've got it wrong yeah skum got maybe I've got it skum for's all right do you know what I mean I always I'm always going to class skump as my home yeah yeah you know what something that Leo says because we me and so always think is Leo going to have an Oran accent or ESS accent I think all the time about my child so he says I obviously how do you I say bath yeah I'm off for a bath yeah just with f they say bath don't I'm so annoyed I can't be bother Leo says bath and I'm like boom you you Mar's little boy he he goes apple apple but in where he's from he lives in Bedford it's like it's like um apple apple is he by so see you don't say mom do you I said mom Mom what you doing Mom now this is the thing my child's got to see Mom I'm not having it schol mommy mommy no it's Mom it was you know that it's going to say Mommy it's going to have an Essex accent I said it like it but you do you do you live near at Essex now or not yeah we're Colchester yeah yes and and so's quite essy yeah so I think she's got quite an EIC accent EIC accent but Leo says certain words do you know what he says as well he never says yeah he always says yes yes and I love it that's quite Posh quite Posh I don't know where he gets it from me and her both coming as much but so he's like yes how long have you and S been together how long is it four and a half year yeah yeah yeah four and a half yeah met in a beefer I was going to say how did you meet and obviously when you met when you met s you would have been like quite well known she and I know people hate to say that but what she she she was like I think she thought I was an instagrammer did she yeah blogger yeah she's like you're off Instagram where' You Me At was Beach no Pikes oh oh that is quirky yeah that's quirky you meet a bird from Pikes you know she could be potential wife we got married in a beefa because of that we did the Full Circle oh my God the best so she she obviously knew you were like in the public eye like for for her do you think that was hard for her not like I think it has been hard it's hard to adapt isn't it cuz I have data boys in the past who aren't in the public eye I think I kind of I kind of I knew that I was always going to end up with somebody that's not in the public eye cuz I kind of that's not really me I a lot of people think that I think do you get it as well people are always like you're so desperate for fame all the time I Ain desperate for fame I'm desperate for [ __ ] money money I just want to make money so I can live rather be rich than have the F oh my God if if you could give me the the opportunity to have money that sets me up for life or be the most famous person in the world get like I said you know I was well known but I had nothing yeah yeah that's the thing does matter I think it maybe has been a struggle because also navigating through social media as a more new parent um people have opinions people have things to say so it is hard for her I think it has been but she deals with it really well and she opens up and she talks to you about it yeah yeah she deals with it really well course but like what I've seen is as well like you know people in the public are you get with the partners and stuff I've seen that they like these Ms Right these these M I hear talk about Trolls but I just feel like I just want to these trolls right these mother trolls they are more brutal than anything I've ever seen now Charlotte's a new mom Holly um Holly's becoming a new man moury as well now what I've seen them go through of these trolls like she won't get TR will she or do people Ser get Tred but yeah but but it's these moms and you know what I'd say is like me you know eventually I'm going to become a mom I don't know whether it post my baby and I'm and I'm worried of what what people say but you can't let people's opinions stop you from being who you are and doing what you want to do and like some days I've struggled with people saying nasty things and then I just think actually like as long as it's not the people that are closest to me my friends and my family saying that then it shouldn't matter and it does I'm not going to sit here and lie it does hurt sometimes like it does hurt but also it's like I used to I used to argue quite a lot go back and but now I just T yeah but I now I just try and just just block and delete block and delete and get on with my day and try and not let it ruin your day when they do I think at the end of the day I just think that they must be going through a lot of [ __ ] themselves I agree with you like you pity them it's not even is pity but it's also like I I kind of I kind of hope you're all right yeah do you know what I mean in a weird way like you saying the most ful things about me the best people but also like I've I've been there I've I've I've sat and been bitter about not getting work and and and I sat and trolled people but but people deal with things differently you know what it's funny to say this because you know me and Jordan now a new relationship we've had people going you'll never last or like oh look you he can do much better than you and don't get us wrong I've looked at relationships and I've been like he definitely cheats on her and I've been like that person obviously it's different whatever boy say but you know being that person just to quickly judge judge because I was unhappy like I was single and look like C's got oh like oh what's she doing with him yeah and it's horrible it is but obviously that that cuz that deep down that is wanted that but also like relationships break down yeah whether or not you're in the public eye or you're not so like people saying you'll never last who knows who knows what can happen in life like if you're not happy and you're not happy then it might break down yeah so you just got to make sure you're with the right person and you and mega oh we're good we're really good Life's good but but yeah things might happen but as well like you said like listen in the past I never once said oh yeah I want to date someone in the public eye if I'm honest I always said I don't want to you know I never saw I don't see J like that yeah he's got his head screwed on yeah I know I was saying I was telling s about him earlier he still he still works he still his head exactly so for me like when I met him I was like he's he's sound he's a good egg he's not not in it for the fame because I'm still doing it I just said that but like he has got his head screwed on and I really like that about J I thought it's different isn't it it's like being in it for fame like you know he's got to do what he's got to do but he's not in it mean him on in it for fame we're just really really happy and doing what we got and you got to look at you got to look at people when you say in it for fame I think a lot of people that then do a reality show and come out and they've got a bit of that Fame I reckon if you ask night 5% of them they'd say I [ __ ] don't want it anymore yeah no I agree because what would you say right so obviously young people like watch this or like middleaged whatever our age people you know a lot of youngstar now they're trying to get in the Tik Tok scene trying to get in the in the YouTube scene like what would you say to them now to you know help them obviously they're going to have to go through a lot with the trolls and the anxiety and everything like that getting the where they want to be what would you see them now are like to to stay in the industry be successful yeah but be true I just say don't put don't put all your eggs in one basket like don't don't want something just because you see like in the YouTube scene and the Tik Tok scene so huge now like a lot of people like like Fred looks up to these YouTubers that is he on it now yeah he looks up to these guys like the open FIFA packs what's that like they just open FIFA cards oh no not the boxing it could watch for hours yeah and I can't get my head around it but also it's part of a learning process my Idols when I was 16 have totally changed to who my Idols are so just know that like you're going to change through the times and I think as long as you're kind of staying grounded and staying as humble as you possibly can and realizing that actually all that outside noise means [ __ ] off at the end of the day like as long as you got food on the table a house over your head enough money to do do nice things things and surround yourself with good people that's actually what matters and I think that's how I've changed as I've got older yeah that now it's more important for me to be able to give the family something than to be able to give myself yeah exactly and just don't worry too much because everybody because I think when when you're in the public eye and maybe someone trolls you or something you think you're the only person in the world that's getting that of course you do everybody get but also people that are in the public eye have to go through bullying and trolling and stuff like that and it's and it's awful so just know that like it happens to everyone and in and what I'd say is as well like yes people might look at us and think you know social media is brilliant they want to have that lifestyle but I'd always say if you have an opportunity to do Italian all career and yes of course influencing social media is a career get that but if you have an opportunity to go and get a talent you know like you said you had your football you had your singing or and you've got obviously your acting and stuff like that if you can do that go and do it because it's something you can always fall back on I'm goingon to I'm going to not not I don't want to be a pushy parent my mom and dad were never pushy they just they just diverted me in ways that they thought that I'd like and I did so I was always sport always spot um so when Leo gets to an age no matter what age it is what and he wants to do ballet or he wants to do acting or he wants to do whatever he wants to do I'll support that 100% And if he gets to a point where he goes I don't like that anymore then we'll look through other things and always I wasn't amazing at school I didn't do bad but I wasn't amazing I think but that's fine because you know you had all these different things yeah but also letting like Fred Fred used to want to be um a vet and I was like that's amazing he wants to be a vet like he loves animals now he wants to be a YouTuber but because he's at that age where he's watching the YouTubers and I think I don't know if you agree I think now a lot more people on the social media Instagram Tik Tok and all that there's a lot more things coming out where it's inspiring so people are talking about grief and there's people talking about wellbe gy and I follow a lot of look a lot different you know that utas is so many people like people with disabilities now or being able a beautiful thinging and and as long as like they're having the right role models and hopefully there is a good amount of role models for them to look up to and that's what I want to be to them as well yeah yeah I've seen you on to your Tik Tok I try mate I Tred you you and your mom I'm yeah I'm your mom she's she needs to be Tik Tok famous yeah she do you know what she's got like 880,000 Instagram followers she she talks about emale and she does a gardening and she she's so Northern by the way she's so nor which she thinks she's poshes she proper think she's po I love my mom and my me and my mom became even closer after my dad what happened yeah um but she's yeah she I I'd love to do a show with with my mom yeah because I just give her so much [ __ ] well you know what I was going to say you're doing loose men I've been doing quite a bit for him which is great yeah so so obviously there's loose women yeah and now there's loose men yeah the last thing I did for them is I did a live testicular check yeah so I wanted to do that because a lot of guys will be too embarrassed to even check their balls and I think I I suffer quite badly with health anxiety after losing my dad and my brother of course yeah um so I always thought I was ill I always thought I had something wrong with me and I think when they asked me to do it I was like again I looked at it and I was like this could make the difference to one two three 7,000 10 million people you never know um and it and it did because I had so many messages like thank you so much my husband's checked and he never would if you had watched that so I kind of started doing a lot more presenting for like loose men loose women line and I think that my career if I could plan it out now yeah I was going to say it go on then the plan my career started in let's say footy yeah went to music and now I'm doing like the stage stuff but I would love to present like that's what I'd love to do you've got it and I think with you you seem like the type of L if you want something I feel like you've got the power in you to get it cuz anything you've ever wanted it's just a secret is it it's just being positive it's a secret and if you're manifested you believe it like like I said here I visioned this for about three year it was on my vision board and I'm sitting here now did you did you envision the whole I envisioned the lips did you the lips everything yeah and and like I said listen if you Vision it you'll get it Jake and obvious look how far you've come now like you're doing things for ITV that is mental and many things and you know what like I I feel like when I came out the jungle you feel like hot property don't you yeah and then you can quite easily drop in this game just got new people coming along and you've just got to keep grafting keep grafting and a lot of people go well it's not really graft and I I get that it might not look like graft but you just got to not even stay relevant you've just got to be willing to put yourself out there and try and keep growing and take the opportunity and and if someone says Jake can you do a little bit of presenting for this I'm not thinking I'm not doing that I'm too good for that and I like that it's I want to do it I want to do it I I want to work my way up I I don't want to get offered the [ __ ] baffs like I want to work my way up you just want to enjoy what you do yeah and enjoy and that's exactly what it is my dad used to say like if you're doing a job that you enjoy you'll never work a day in your life yeah know and I agree and I do and I and I do and and if that's what Fred and Leo want to do they want to do something where they love it they might not be earning millions of pounds but they're happy yeah all that matters exactly being happy is more important than being rich well Jake Hest honestly thank you so much for being podcast this was nice I know I know I was just worrying about the time that's why I could sit here another half hour I've like chatting about it is and you know what as well like I think like you know you are really humble like I keep saying and I think you've been in so many different scenarios and places and obviously the mental health and you know going through what you went through like that is honestly that is [ __ ] traumatic mate and for you to come out as well like still being so humble you know you an amazing parent you've you're an amazing husband and you're doing so much for yourself like not many people get to stay in this industry as long as obviously what me and you have and I tell you what it's a reason because we're [ __ ] Good People Mate that is why because you don't get anywhere when you get anywhere without being nice you know what I mean to be nice foot go to be nice and that's why you know we're here today but thank you thank you for having me thank you for having me we could sit here and have a cup of tea forever what's this jar by the way do you want to yeah yeah come on let's do the jar this is well I've got time yeah you've got let's do the jar so this is a jar come on like go oh he's got his shades on these aren't Mine by the way don't these a mine you them so this is would you rather all right bye would you rather have to be naked at work for an hour yeah or be dropped off two miles from your house whilst you're naked and have to try and get home oh what job that ever happened by the way what job am I doing let's say um if it's sting Dre sitting on the loose [ __ ] men panel for an hour I hate sitting there naked let's say back in the day when you did the dream boys dream boys so you're standing there I never got naked in that and never no but this is would you rather I'd rather be dropped off two miles from home CU I reckon I could make a diversion through like a forest or something and I could get away and I won't be spotted well someone could get you in the street and and that would go all over social media but then again it's already happened M it's already happened I've been down that boat before it's out I would two more yeah go on go on Dre boys was fun for you was it dream do you know what dream boys was just another chapter yeah I just again I I w't getting much work and I was like let's take the opportunity yeah listen yeah go what what boys was it ran on it rogu was on it yeah yeah was it any Jord Shaw boys or not Scotty or Not N no I think Scotty did it well before well before me yeah if I was a boy I'd do it 100% why not would you rather say your ex's name during sex of your partner's best friend or your partner's best friend's name [ __ ] hell you don't have to answer it and pick another one should I pick another one yeah pick another one watch this why would you say no yeah yeah you should pick really naughty ones for right all right this go would you rather have the face of a pensioner but the body of a 22y old all right or the body of a pensioner in their face of a 20y old face what your face of a 20 yeah yeah I think I would you wear clothes is it yeah but then but yeah but then it would be like going the beach what would you do about the beach wear of vest wear ofest yeah that's what you do when you get older anyway is it true yeah D face 100% keep keep your face next keep your bows that's what Botox f m I had Botox once did you worst thing I've ever done was it never do it again you need Expressions that's why I love my face a bit like Jim Caris you know what I mean I'm always mov got good skin though thanks good skin I mean I'd love to sit here and say I've never had Botox but another would you rather block the toilet on a first date or first date or first day at a new job so would you rather block the toilet on a first date or would you rather block it the first day at new job job job I'm not bothered yeah on a first day yeah different in it yeah in her house in or out toilet I'm out I'm not bothered I'm just go someone's B the toilet in there I reckon I've done that before you know you ever been in like a train and like I've had a [ __ ] on a train before and like I haven't blocked it but then you know that someone's going to go in after you and it stinks and it stinks and when I walk out go God I always horrible you've ever done that and it was me but you're the guilty one same I do that and I go oh God she's awful who's done that and I think I am the culprit time it's the best isn't it yeah especially when they know who we are as well um right okay go on would you rather show Friends every pH on your phone or read out loud every text you've sent this week so what's worse your camera roll text just read read the textes do you know my textes are boring I only I literally text about two mates so for my mom honestly my text are the most boring things be like watch the te I bet the camera's the kids isn't it quick look oh God yeah go on oh she sent any sexy thought was that right so there's two there's two of me in the ice bath lovely yeah doing a little motivational speech yeah good then there's a little reel that I made today do you want to see yeah absolutely Leo on the bik a oh it's really chilled yeah he's asleep oh my God he's sleeping on the back look that's some extra weight that well that's life is it look at him have you posted this yet no not yet that's tonight so I get to see that yeah that's and then there's loads of photos of him on the bike me in the gym today on the on the rowing machine God honestly I'm so B it's very inspirational your camera roll my broken finger oh oh looks very skinny it's my little finger very slim can we just clear that up that's my little finger I'm we should we just have a laugh here now my camera rule is Nathan's ex-boyfriend cuz he's just been stalk stalking him that's a full crotch shot yeah and wait wait go back on that is that a photo that he took of himself ler no that's the oh what he looks like he just fell out the [ __ ] sky and landed on the bed a bit of sushi nice um very raw by the way do you like it raw and then and then there's me just eat the sandwich and yeah Holly and ab bum it's very different isn't it no not really very different you're on the back of a bike and I'm biking in Jim and I've got some like s Sushi and some GE that fell from the sky onto a bed I like it I like it no it's different oh but honestly thank you so much Jake you have been a bloody honor thank you so much for coming than for having us second guest second guest very important first wordst second the best exactly who was first Nathan the worst and everyone at home wherever you are work traveling wherever thank you so much for listening Jake is amazing and what he does if you want to support his charity everything is all on Jake is it on page s UK and follow me on Instagram follow him on Instagram and Tik Tok I'm not really bother okay follow him on Instagram I'm sure everyone will want to follow him and see what he's up to but everyone as well thank you for listening and love you lot love you