when parents don’t approve with Mandie and Danae

Intro what's up everybody welcome back to couple things with Sean and Andrew a podcast all about couples and the things they go through today is a fun conversation we made friends with d during the celebrity softball tournament here in Nashville and so we were delighted when her and her wife came to join us for a conversation that's right we sit down with the Hayes and Mandy Kai and this one was this was a unique conversation cuz we hit some deep topics but we were also almost laughing to the point of crying with yes and uh their story is really interesting D talks about her experience of telling her mom that she has a girlfriend and what that Journey was like uh all the complexities with that they tell their engagement story they tell about religious trauma and so many other things that I learned a lot through one of my favorite takeaways from this was actually how they navigated trauma within their relationship which I think was really fascinating and Mandy has some wild amazing wisdom yeah some of the greatest advice I feel like I've gotten on the show yet this was fun also da is a national champion softball player yes she was MVP when we played softball at this charity event and we had a blast like laugh the whole night we were like let's have you on the show so we hope you enjoy this one they have a lot of progress going on we'll link some information about their podcast their social handles uh DA's a comedian and so you'll get some laughs out of that but we'll include that in the description down below without further Ado we bring D Hayes and Mandy Kai I Mandy and I both grew up playing competitive softball and Softball like in front of the biggest stages you know but I don't know if I could have done that was different I was 21 then when we won or like 19 when we won the National Championship Matty CH let's go Andrew is full hype mod I I first met I was like oh yeah I think we had some chest bumps I got home and I was like man I really really hope Andrew doesn't think I'm a complete [Music] idiot total wavelength same wavelength do you remember the comment I made whenever I told Ernest Goes dude what happened to Andrew out there and I was like dude I think he got caught adjus in his crot and then and then Sean was like you told him that and I was like hell yeah oh man and then Ernest looked at me and he goes oh okay it's kind of weird that like you knew he was doing that I was like dude I was just playing it did though it's a nervous tick I have to be honest with you just go for the crot yeah it's like oh no dude I made that completely up I didn't I didn't see you out there I like just completely that's why I thought it was so funny that you like told Ernest cuz I was like he for sure was and I was like you caught that I was like of course no I just completely made that up just to get Ernest reaction so you were 19 when you won the National Championship so I went back oh let's go back to that yeah 19 uh a complete and utter mess of a human being at 19 so that's why when we were watching your stuff last night I was just like wow did you play softball in college I did where yeah at Seattle University oh nice she was a pitcher AKA princess I was how'd you meet Instagram believe it or not yeah flit into her DMS well I was still very much in the closet guys I was in Alabama still living in my hometown so I was too scared even in the private DMS to be like hey you're cute so well we both played softball so it's like an 80% chance especially College yeah I was like well there is a chance um but no I saw her and I thought she was so pretty and I followed her and then I did the whole unfollow because she didn't follow me back oh wow yeah and then finally like what um maybe a month later yeah I saw her profile again it just popped up on my explore page and I followed her and then um she finally followed me back and it was just my utter charm no Charisma no no well it's so ironic about our life now it's right when Instagram live like popped off like I think it just became a thing actually and da hopped on and I was like oh what's this chick doing on Instagram live nobody's doing that at the time and she actually was like in the gym working out and she started being really funny and so I was like laughing at her video and I'm like how is that such a full circle thing of like me actually trusting that she was a real person was because of Instagram live and then we started talking from then I crack some joke I feel really bad shout out to the guy that I kind of like made the joke at his expense but we were at the gym it was just me and this guy and he was probably like 16 it was like 1:00 in in the morning and I went live on Instagram for no reason I have no idea just like the First Date feature just happened like that week so I was at the gym and this dude looked just like Justin Bieber with his haircut and so like I have my phone up and I'm like what's up y'all happy Instagram live and I was like I'm just working out with Justin Bieber in hand to the guy and the guy goes like why'd you throw me under the bus and that one joke Mandy thought she I just thought it was so funny I was like I don't know why I don't think now I'm like it was the aw awkwardness yeah I think it was like his reaction the fact that she like was being funny on video cuz like back then like what eight years ago people just weren't as candid on social media so it was really refreshing to be honest and I was like oh I guess we'll talk and then she's like no want to date I'm like okay I wasn't that forward to think I was she wasn't that forward but with her words she definitely was I was like okay I guess we're dating now yeah um but it was crazy cuz she was living in Alabama Alabama and I was living in California so I was just like Hey we're going to talk like let's just meet in person maybe so yeah I flew to Alabama and that's where we met for the first time yep that was uh in 20 like February of 2017 it was a while ago mhm what was the first date well we went and stayed at an Airbnb on the lake that I grew up on straight first a day yeah well in Alabama I mean like it's not like I could she couldn't have stayed at my house because my parents didn't know that I was out so I was like what are you doing this weekend I'm going to the lake yeah who you going with a friend you know um but no at that Going to the Lake time Mandy and I had a conversation before she flew in and she was like I think out of respect to yourself and to your parents you should probably tell them you're hanging out with a girlfriend and so I remember um I was cooking eggs in my kitchen and my mom was sitting sitting at the bar and she was like so what are you doing this weekend and I was like it's now or never so I I just watched this video on YouTube where if you count to five and then do what you're supposed to do it makes it easier yeah Mel Robins the 5sec rle so I was like I was like well I just watched that video I'm going to apply that so I was like one two three four five I'm going to the lake with my girlfriend and she was like oh you have a girlfriend like what's your girlfriend's name like girlfriend is in best friend and I was like she drives a BMW that's the all I could come come up with I was like she drives a BMW and she was like oh well what did she do for a living and I was like no Mom like she's my girlfriend and my mom was just like just kind of like looked at me and asked a couple like inquisitive questions about it didn't really say much about it and then I left for the lake the next day and we spent two days at the lake and it was awesome because my mom kind of like let me be like who I wanted to be for the first two days and then obviously the questions came after once we got home um but I knew it was really wild because I'll never forget this the first day we woke up at the lake Mandy was already sitting on the balcony and it was a Sun Sunday maybe right it was the second day yeah Su um and Mandy was watching a church service Meeting Mandy and I had so much religious trauma because of my sexuality and religion around it um and so Mandy's watching a church service and I walk out and I probably watch 10 minutes of it with her and out of nowhere I just start breaking down crying like weeping and I was like did I just like what did like I didn't know how to react CU I've never met anybody with religious trauma prior to that so I didn't I wasn't exposed to it yeah but I just started like yeah weeping yeah and uh it was this very like euphoric feeling of like for the first time after so much hurt and suffering of God giving me just like a sense of peace and so in that moment I was just like this is who like this is who I'm going to spend the rest of my life with you don't just meet this stranger off of Instagram and she flies from California to Alabama and then you have this moment of connection over a healing religious moment and I was like this is it so ever since then I I've just been like th this is my soulmate like I never believed in soulmates before that but I met Mandy for 48 hours and I was like she was made for me I was made for her and uh seven years later that wow that's it yeah do you have a similar story Mandy or I mean yeah it it's crazy because at the time I had just got out of like a really awful relationship and when Dan and I first start talking I was like there's no way like I'm not interested I'm definitely not interested in somebody that's in the closet because I I've been out and like proud of who I am since I was like 17 18 and so how was that for you you know I had more internalized homophobia than experiences outside like my mom was really mad at me for lying to her than she was for me having a girlfriend and so it was really interesting that I was like more ashamed of myself versus like the people outside having opinions about it and then once I like kind of got over the idea that my mom was okay then I just I never came out I just shared an Instagram photo of my girlfriend you know just went full sand I was like you know what if my friends are going to have any difference of opinion in me then this Instagram photo is going to be the thing that we're going to stop talking and that's fine with me you know and I went to college and I could kind of just fell into my identity and then never looked back and so when I met da that was 2017 I'd already been out for a good handful of years and very comfortable with my sexuality and it was the last thing I expected to fall in love with somebody that was in the closet where I'd never had to be you know and so it it's an entire different experience and like the amount of trauma that I learned about and the amount of empathy I had like it was just wild and the the moment that da was talking about it was like a moment of healing for me too because even though I didn't personally experience that from people I you know I I exposed myself to it in my own like thoughts and emotions and growing up at the time that we did you didn't see it as much you know and so and especially growing up in the softball World you like heard a lot of talk about being lesbian and like people would make fun of you for being lesbiian and it just the it's always funny because it was like do you wear a bow or do you not wear a bow I wore a darn bow I wore a bow too I was like I was bowed up apparently if you wore a bow you weren't gay called No bow Les bow yeah so I was like o I'm not going to start that rumor about myself put two bows in my ponytail maybe it was my mom putting the ponies or the bows in my ponytail yeah but but it really is wild though like her growing up in Southern California and Me growing up in the middle of nowhere Alabama like how different are uh childhoods could be um but that's the beauty about us being together do you still have religious trauma I think that it's going to always be something I have Mandys relationship with God to to work through but I no longer have that shame of like I can't have a relationship with God because I'm ashamed of of who I I am um I've had people ask me well now that you've come out like do you feel like you're you no longer have a relationship with God as if like you can't have both M um and the craziest thing is my relationship with God has just expanded and become so colorful Now versus before it was so black and white I told Manny and I said we weren't going to get into this on the podcast but I was also taken to conversion therapy as a kid which is a form of therapy to help you get rid of homosexuality so this was after you told your no this was when I was 11 so as a kid I had told my parents that I like girls and I was taken to see this Psy psychiatrist that specializes in children who have told their parents that they have feelings for the same sex and then that psychiatrist helps the parents and the kids guide themselves away from that quote unquote lifestyle MH um and then we never talked about it again after I went through therapy and all of that so that's why I think it was less of a shock when I told my mom that I had a girlfriend coming into town it was kind of like oh those feelings that were here a decade ago are still here if that makes sense um so the religious trauma started as a at a very very very young age at 10 um because the conversion therapy and the psychiatrist it was all wrapped around MH religion religion as to why you can't live this lifestyle as to why you don't need to act on this lifestyle so it was I would say I I have lived at this point with religious trauma more than I've lived without it so I'm still navigating that world but um I just I just feel so closer to God now and better understood and more open to go to him than before because before I felt like I was unwelcomed and ashamed of who I was so it's still a journey of navigating but it's uh it's a much more colorful and inviting Journey if that makes sense you said you weren't going to get into it I know we can get I mean at this point at this point we just like opened the door you open the door I me you can't really explain our story it's tough you can't really it's the reason we said we said that we didn't want to get into it CU it there's a big part of the story that started us that we don't want to have our identity for the rest of our Liv and so like but it is a part of our story you know so it's it's hard to navigate not always talking about versus like living in the present you know and so that was our conversation but no we are an open book about it so so I have one more question then um I'm curious because you said at 11 you already had these feelings you voiced them to your parents they put you through conversion therapy you ran away from the church because of the association with religion so you basically went into hiding for how many years and then when you came back and you told your mom were you just okay with the response that you're going to get no matter what and you said she kind of let you live your life for two days and then the questions proceeded was it was it 11 year old you all over again or was she more open it was uh I think it first started as D this is not the life I want for you this is not the life I imagine for you and I think it was a uh she tried to shut me down really fast when she saw how persistent I was to be in a relationship with Mandy because I would fly out to California like twice a month and I was living with my mother at the time my parents are since divorced um as of when I was 18 people always ask that I think the story makes more sense when you realize that my parents who are Polar Opposites from each other and how they um treat me you it makes sense that they're not in a in a union because that would be very polarizing um but no I think she she she definitely turned her nose up at it once she saw how uh I was just Adit I was Mandy Mandy was it um then it started to become more of a okay well let's keep y'all's relationship a secret but as a family we'll understand the dynamic of the relationship ship and Mandy's more than welcome to go out to dinner with us Mandy's welcome to come over for for family night and dinners and all of that it was more like a it's being tolerated for the moment yeah um which like there's so many there's like a handful of photos out there of that short stint of when Mandy was then Mandy moved to Alabama we got our own apartment and there's a there's a handful of photos out there of where Mandy and I are like at top golf with my family or we're out to dinner with my family and it looks normal but you would just think Mandy and I were friends it's not like Mandy and I were you know openly having PDA in front of our family or like holding hands in front of our family it was just like don't ask don't tell this is unspoken we understand that youall have a one-bedroom apartment but the rest of the world doesn't need to know that um and this was the feelings between your mother and your father just Parents my mother okay um my dad my dad I don't know how else to explain it other than my dad is just like he just your biggest cheerleader anything yeah I always say that when God made my parents he was like I know you're going to have to be put through hell on one side of your family so I'm going to make sure that the other side of your family is amazing I just I don't know how to explain it my dad is just my biggest cheerleader um I just love him like I just there's not a single thing that I've ever done where my dad is just like that's not good enough and we've had conversations as an adult about how he allowed me to go to that conversion therapist when I was 11 MH and uh if you ask him now that's his biggest regret but I've asked I asked him like why would you why' you put so much stock into into my sexuality as a kid he said I was just so afraid of you growing up out in the middle of no where Alabama where if you were have gone to high school or middle school and told one of your classmates that you were attracted to girls that would have they would have ostracized you and bullied you for the rest of your MH tenure there and he was like I was just trying to protect you and I knew that once she got off the college you were going to find yourself but I was just doing my best to keep you in this small box for as long as possible to just protect you he's like I went about it the wrong way but that was my intention was protection so you know I we've talked about it Mandy and I and uh I don't I don't know I don't know what I would have done in that situation if I was him back in the early 2000s and in the middle of nowhere Alabama so I I hate to fault him for that but he was doing what he thought was best so closing question on this topic okay um fast forward you guys have been Family married now for seven years well we've been together for seven together for seven but married for two oh amazing um has it come full circle with families our family's our family is like a part of the picture have we kind of walked away from family great question um is it an ongoing process close as ever with my dad and my stepmom okay it's so funny because they don't shy away from like even if they're at a grocery store and the the cashier is like what are you doing this weekend my stepmom is like well she's so Southern she's like well we're going to go and we're going to hang out with my daughter and her wife you know and the cashier is like you know but but my stepmom just doesn't shy away from it my dad is like uh he just think he's also my biggest cheerleader yeah he thinks M's the bee knees he's like I don't know how you got such a hot looking wife toight but by God hey the pickings are slim when you're gay he was like and somehow you managed to get a goodl looking one so kudos to you but uh he just I think he was I think he was like deathly afraid that I was going to marry like uh I don't know some like rough and tough like woman but but no we we have not spoken to my mom going on over five years yeah yeah oh I'm sorry that's okay it's um it's one of those Dealing with trauma things where we always say you can't love somebody hard enough to make them love you back I tried that for years I thought well I'll just put myself in the box she wants me to put myself in and uh what that ends up doing is it just lowers your self worth immensely to where you end up cutting your own legs off to help somebody else and um I just got tired of doing that and honestly I was I wasn't vibrant and I I wasn't living a life I was proud of and my career wasn't growing because I had no selfworth so yeah it's always an ongoing conversation though like it's never I mean like I don't think you you can take trauma go to therapy for a year and then it's just gone so we always have open conversations about like how she's feeling or if something's triggered or you know and it's not something that's overtaking our life at all you know but and it but it is something that like we always pulse check yeah you know and I mean like even if DA's in Alabama I'm like how you feeling you know like are you good are are you good um but it was like that was excuse me what first two years of a relationship that was just some of the hardest times in my life life in terms of just accepting us working through I mean when you're dealing with somebody else's battles and also trying to build a relationship at the same time it's just like that navigation process was one of the hardest things I think we've ever gone through and that's why we always say if we can get through the first two years of relationship we're golden like you know and so after after that we just I feel like with every piece of adversity or Triumph or with her career now it's just like everything feels so celebratory um which is why we try to focus on now presently instead of what has or been you know done to us or what has happened yeah it's Lessons learned interesting I've uh if there's anything I've learned in our seven years of marriage it's like when there's areas of friction I used to just get bummed out and disappointed and like dang what the heck is this what do I do like she's annoying me why does she why does she have to be like that right um but I've learned to try to look at that frustration and be like okay what is that saying about like me what can I learn about that that being said relationship with your mom or like siblings it's such a different game yeah but for what it's worth it might be you know I lost my dad six months ago it's like parents that relationship is precious so obviously there's a lot of life that I am not privy to but coming up with a game plan to see if that could be rectified just you know we've you know we've thought about what that would look like and I think what we we've never actually expressed is there's been things Beyond just sexuality in that relationship we we keep that relationship zipped up yeah things that because you know it's tough because the Bible talks about honoring your mother and father and your days will be longer and you want to you want to always make sure you're respectful cuz the the world doesn't need to know all the ins and outs um good with that so we yeah so we we button it up as just gotcha I think it's easy to explain the trauma versus all of the the the religious trauma and the you know the conversation about her sexuality but there's so much more to it that that's probably honestly like 30% of it so there we can move on yeah we we can we can move on but let me say this let me say this last thing it's it's one of those things where you know I I I do my best to try and remain in a respectful manner because I'm never trying to tarnish somebody else's livelihood or career or the rest of their days here on this Earth but I'm also trying to protect my side of the family which is now my wife and our future kids so I have to always make sure that I'm respectful of both because if I just like were to come out and just do like a whole damn tell all you know I feel like that actually speaks volumes of the person that I am versus what the actual Memoir or tell all would look like yeah you you would find some juicy details in there and be like oh my God that makes sense now but that also would make me look like a horrible person so we just zip it up and keep it as sexuality isn't dig it you know what I mean yeah so next question well can I add one thing that's something Andrew and I have talked about Family is everything a lot because he definitely comes from a family that's more like family is everything right no matter what we're going to always like work to maintain this like large family I come from a family of like blood doesn't matter it's like your family is your family that like you would ride and die for that like kind they related or not whether they're related or not but something Andrew and I really had to work on from his family and like Dynamics was the whole like biblical leave and cleave of like just like you said I have to protect my wife I have to protect our family now right and we have we have our first priority in duty to protect us right before we go to the outskirts and that can be really hard and the Dynamics are very difficult and what is best for us sometimes would not be best for an extended family so and I you know it's funny because I'm more Teeter on Andrew's side where Mandy Mandy is like very much like you Sean where you know it's like how you treat me repetitively is actually how you are it doesn't matter if we're first cousins or nieces and whatever me on the other hand I'm like you talk about your third cousin twice removed as family yeah yeah I know I I think it's because I know name I love though like that's that's why that whole situation was I got you heartbreaking cuz I come from a family where like you know we go to Christmas and Thanksgiving and like 80 of us show up you know so I don't even know 80 of my family there might be five of us yeah I do want to touch on the religious trauma since D experienced it but you didn't yes how did you circumvent that like I think so when Dan I first met and that first night How did you circumvent that happened where I saw her response to practice religion you know it wasn't even a response to Jesus it wasn't a response to Faith it was literally a response to practice religion because I was watching an actual service with you know a beautiful sermon but um watching that transpire there was nothing a part of me that was affec Ed by it personally but I was like so devastated that anybody could create a relationship with God or instill the belief that a relationship with God looks like that and so I I'm in a I'm a very big fixer like I was like no no no if you've never seen unconditional love I'm going to prove it to you and I'm going to show you and it was my immediate thing to show d a unwavering bring love about your faith and whatever that looked like for her and I was I was not going to tell her hey you have to believe in God if we're going to be together or you have to pray with me or anything like that I just I Tred to do my best to instill a beautiful spirituality about her versus like practice religion and I tried to separate the two conversations and then we worked really hard through therapy she went to therapy for her religious trauma for a year straight and we would come back she would tell me what she learned and we would talk through it every single week um and so it hurt me to see it more than it hurt me personally um but then again at the same time when I lived in Alabama I started feeling those things like maybe we are like you know second guessing myself for the first time in my life so it was hard for her to watch both transpire like I was trying to fight back the unconditional love and show her that but then I was also like trying not to second guess myself at the same time cuz I I was all alone in Alabama other than D like I didn't have any friends I didn't have any family and because we were in the closet it was like how do I meet friends like I can't tell them that we're together you know even our neighbors didn't know obviously they knew cuz we lived in a one bedroom apartment but you slept on the couch yeah but we never had the conversation of like oh this is my girlfriend you know and so I think at the end of the day it came back from me just being so secure in my beliefs and I think that came from my parents raised me not to push me into religion but to push me to believe in something that was higher than myself and my mom did such an phenomenal job and we've talked about this I literally like three weeks ago I was like thank you so much for never pushing religion on me but always encouraging a relationship with God it's so beautiful and polarizing and so different cuz then Moving to California after we lived in Alabama for a year then we moved to California for 2 years and lived 10 minutes from her mom and her mother is one of the most spiritual people I've ever been around she doesn't make a decision unless it's rooted right in her heart and with God I mean it is like this woman the the relationship she has with God is just like so admirable like I look at it and I'm like I want that too and so when we moved out there I got firsthand experience of being next to her mom for two whole years and I was just like like my eyes were just so open all the time CU I went from this organized religious trauma to what functioning in a certain piece looks like and you can you can't color outside of the lines you have to be here the whole time and a lot of Public Image is involved and all of that to then moving out to California and watching her mom just like draw me closer and closer and closer and it was like I had broken off so many pieces of Shame and guilt and shame and unworthiness and Debbie which is her mom's name Debbie gets so much of that credit and luckily she's moving to Nashville so I get to be around it more she's an amazing human being though yeah I was watching a video on your YouTube channel you moved from Alabama to California to Austin to Nashville in like a pretty small amount of time we did yeah our parents think we're absolutely crazy yeah you just love moving well no not really we were I think in order to start the relationship I was working as a real estate agent in Alabama so I couldn't Moving to Austin Texas just let's Bother Me um talk about we need lint rollers for these there's a lot of lint uh because I couldn't just up and move Mandy ended up starting her own business on online on Instagram and so she was able to move so once we got there for a year we were like we know this isn't our forever spot so then we moved to California for 2 years we thought we'd be there be out there a lot longer mhm um then the pandemic happened and stuff was just bananas well we were both self self-employed where we could live anywhere and then we started looking at real estate prices at 24 25 man I really don't want a $900,000 studio apartment I don't I think that's the life I want to live so it was pretty crazy because then we started looking at other states just to like kind of explore and we're like we weren't set on anything and my parents kept saying like you would love Austin Texas and I was like okay I don't know what the heck's in Austin Texas so we went there to visit not thinking that we were going to move there not thinking that we were even looking at houses we found one house on realtor um which was funny cuz it was a Sunday night she found it on realtor while we were still in California we booked a flight two days later to go visit Austin just to look at the house and see the area and stuff um but again just most mostly visiting Austin by day two we signed a contract to build a house like well I guess that's awesome quick man it's like yeah dude we'll pack up and get in a U-Haul in two days and then we'll be on our third house by year two yeah which is crazy I mean like but our time in Austin was wonderful like we love the city it it's very much like Nashville yeah it just didn't feel like us and you know my sweet wife over here needed to be back in the South like she like this Sweet Southern girl like I like look if I have the thickest Southern Accent on our block I'm in the wrong place like I need to be back in in the Deep South so them Nashville's the better Austin I agree I agree actually it's not for those of y'all watching that are trying to move to Nashville it's ter yeah Nashville's horrible don't come here so bad um no but uh Mandy's parents then let us know that they're going to retire they're going to retire here so we were like well I'd like to be two hours for my dad so then we moved but yeah it does look very sporadic we look like we're crazy people I get it I feel like we need to start I wish we just went from like Alabama to Nashville versus the entire I mean we did the same exact thing where hold on wait where all we were all well in bouncing on the NL we're constantly moving we did our stint in California for two or three years back in Nashville talked about going to Indianapolis we've been we've been all over as well yeah I guess it makes a little more sense though because it was like a job we were just like psycho people doing like a Victory lap around the us but there's something there we have ALS had these conversations there's something so cool Being with your spouse about being with your spouse and having that life of like I don't know how to say it we we talk about this like this contentment of so many people are born and raised in middle of nowhere Alabama and they live there for the rest of their lives they work a 9 to-5 they have like dreams to Aspire like to go other places but they just won't yeah there's something so fun about doing that with your spouse yeah cuz it's like that's all I need right now oh you should have seen it's so cool the look on my face like the faces of my neighbors and people I grew up with cuz I had never lived outside of my hometown other than just briefly going to college an hour away and I was like I'm moving in California they were like what we're like why I was like well how do I explain [Laughter] this well my friend well my really pretty friend that shares the bed with me we're moving together no but California was fun we lived in Huntington Beach beautiful yeah but are you guys frequent Zillow Surfers H I stay on Zillow weekly for me we were just sending a house to each other this morning I was like babe there's 180 Acres listening like what are you trying to do I'm like I don't know maybe in Nashville yeah is that like an hour and a half away I'll show it to you when we get like 20 minutes north of Nashville wait you should show Nate oh yeah oh yeah dude Miss Natty champ trying to get a we need a community to go in on a thing together okay is it a makes it sound like a softball field or something you know M bets yeah well don't need to hey hey keep it on sorry don't don't look this up guys don't all all right we'll uh we'll we'll chat okay um okay you guys share your lives all over the Dealing with hate Internet like we do unfortunately you subject yourselves to millions of opinions on a daily basis love that for and considering your roots are so spread out you have very southern middle of nowhere Alabama you have California yes you have very religious organized religion M you have California not organized religion but religious spiritual how do you navigate that on a daily basis subjecting yourselves to opinions of every kind God I tell me about I'm over speaking but I don't feel like I like no joke we do not get a ton of like hate over our sexuality like no like seriously I myy told me this quote a couple years ago and it was at confident nobody will question you and ever since Mandy and I are just unapologetically and confident in our relationship and we put our best foot forward we really don't get a ton of hate about our sexuality now what we do get a ton of hate about which people are like how the hell did this hillbilly land this girl and I'm like that's what y'all are upset about yeah I think the only comments come from like oh Mandy actually isn't gay she's secretly dating somebody or something like that the weirdest comments the Tim mcra my God I I did an interview with Tim mcra and like yeah I'm like sweating think about it no I'm just kidding um but people are like oh yeah she's definitely straight I'm like definitely in the Tim sorry tonight and I'm like like he could be my dad everybody's in the Tim yeah not in Tim that would be weird if my wife didn't think Tim mcgr was high I thought Tim mcgr was high I think D was sweating more than I was dude his chest muscles them thing harder than dinner plates you have dying with that he was so nice shout have you seen his whole rig that he travels with oh yeah tour bus oh with the workout it is the coolest thing I've ever seen yeah well his chest muscles show very and then on top of that the only hate you get is some people think that her comedy is immature that's the only conversations but it's comedy I know like what am I supposed to do have mature comedy I mean anyways I feel like that would go off the rails um there is one thing about I think us that we We dont lead with ourselves purposely do Tastefully and I'm going to it sounds like I'm like boasting about ourselves but even though we're a gay couple we don't lead with ourselves sexuality and that's been something really important to us and I think that people respect us more as a couple because we're not inyour face gay people versus more of like we don't label ourselves like it's not necessarily like in-your-face gay it's we've talked about this it's more of like we don't have the rainbow Flags in our bio and hash lgbtq this and hash lesbian this it's just like it's Mandy and D before it's Mandy and the gay couple we just want to show people like the biggest thing is is we want to show people that you can live a normal successful happy life and also happen to be gay instead of Let's Make because I have nothing else interesting about me let's make my entire identity about my sexuality yeah and I just want the younger generation that are creators or that are professionals or going into business or going into their classrooms to know that you can be you can be confident in your sexuality but don't allow it to take up so much space that it absorbs and overshadows who you are as a person CU there's so much uniqueness to each of us as individuals and if we only allow one brand One Umbrella of # lgbtq to absorb who we are we're not allowing our friends like you guys to see that we have common interests like Andrew and I could be buds we could like you know what I mean like we could hey out but if I'm just like constantly talking about like this or that then it overshadows it and that's one thing that we've actually found really remarkable on social media Our relationship on social media is that a lot of the couple things that we share is the same kind of couple things that you guys go through I mean we've already related on so many different topics already and so when we're sharing our relationship like I think it's refreshing especially for people in the middle of nowhere Alabama to see that my wife does husband things all of the time like all of the time and noise are really bad no I mean like there there's so many more commonalities to our relationship than there are differences to any normal relationship and it's been really amazing to see the support around that yeah what's what's the A on your necklace for the a is that an A M oh M oh that makesense that makes more sense now got it uh have you have you taken batting practice from Mandy I don't want to she she throws heaters well the thing about Mandy oh it's been about eight years since she's pitched so it can get a little sporadic you know like I've seen her pitch in the front yard you know like she'll throw one just like piping the middle pitched for eight years remember at the lake you know piping down the middle and then maybe one up near the head remember the the celebrity softball game when you dropped a pop oh thank you see marriage normal do you guys work out together um we used to we don't as much anymore just cuz our gym space is kind of tight but we just can't we don't work out together yeah we we started a workout yesterday I said can you can you maybe pause I'm just GNA she was like do you think maybe you could not use the whole mirror and I was like I'm sorry that the mirror is this wide do you want half a shoulder and I'll get have the shoulder like how does that make sense one of us needs to be the mirror person uh so that worked that workout was like 6 minutes and then I walked downstairs and then we re she continued and then I walked back up 45 minutes later it was great yeah wait the the Gym's too tight for two yeah I started signing up for your workout program the you what I started signing up for your workout program you signed up for ours like the Google form thing I I I I'm not lying and I I saw a picture of of Da with the Bama it was like the before and after where is he we need to get this down we need to get this w oh no that was an old business of our screenshot cuz I thought that was such an old business of ours I saw thaty I got yeah no but did you see that you see the after picture you saw you see this I was thicker than Snicker like I was you were dinking the home runs I bet my coach his motto when he recruits people in Alabama um he says it to me like you know he shouldn't be saying them but he does and then he says I like a girl with a big ass cuz big ass big Power and I'm like coach you can't say that anymore like you're G to get me too yeah say that but no I was a I was thick at Alabama dang I was like uh I was probably 35 pounds heavier than I am now I'm five I was 5 foot n about 180 yeah I was I was crushing but burgers Andrew you got up to 250 250 thick boy thick boy yeah I'm Joining a fraternity like 229 and I still feel big but it's like bro my legs they were huge he was thick he I can't even imagine you at 250 I got pictures and I had dreadlocks at one point in my life not with me not with me Sean you and then directly after that phase I was like a frat boy so it was like there's a lot you were wearing you were wearing boat shoes with Ki init poos in no no this is directly after Dad oh I was like dude what he went from he went from drug rugs and dreads to abomi polos like put the Moose on it yes and no I did not have it was notle khaki I'm sorry we all went through some was that col was that colge that was the beginning of dating me and I was like we we could work on this a little bit I like I like to diversify interest cuz it's like an empathy building exercise I did my senior year at high school I did a theater play cuz I was like I don't understand why people do this and I did it freaking slay it m news joined a frat and then I is that empathy too that was my junior year I literally because I I wanted to know what the uh what do you call it the pledge process was like I DM The Pledge leader beforehand I was like this better be the hardest thing I've ever gone through and it it was actually weird the whole it was actually weird yeah they make it seem like you're going to be in like this dark basement doing like seances and stuff we kind of did that be glad it was true you didn't do that no I I never join I don't first of all I don't think I could have joined a fraternity and I definitely wouldn't have fit to a sority especially in Alabama sority is different level I have a character that I play on Tik Tok called Emma K Grace and I get super doled up and I'm like hey y'all I'm Emma Kate grace rushing for the University of Alabama my daddy just bought me this St laurren bag my dadd doesn't always buy me stuff but when he does he buys me the good stuff my God you act like you didn't used to wear Miss Me jeans and hoop earrings oh wow yes I had do you remember the big hoop phase though the Bangles bigger the better Bangles the bangal bra earrings for your wrist earrings for your wrist you like do this to get your but you do a lot of them yeah make noise yeah who uh who is more creative between the two of you she's more creative when it comes to strategy and marketing and having a game plan like she's helping me write my comedy show right now um I think performance-wise like that wasn't the question here but creativity here she's I'm the show yeah but she's Mandy does a ton a ton of writing especially with jokes but like da is so good an improv of anything like if I mean she can have a conversation about anything and everything and then with her comedy and stuff it's just like so quick wit I think with me it's a lot more like strategy I I I love creation process I mean I study strategic Communications in University and I love marketing that's what I was doing prior to um influencing social media I was like I don't even know what to call it social media life um but I just I love creating like I love video I love photo I love spatial creation I just I'm a very creative person yeah but she's also like really really like to me her bread and butter is marketing like strategy I guess yeah she's a she's a fantastic she's got a brain for understanding Trends and where the world's moving I was going to say obviously we're still getting targeted for your before and after I something right so I no we'll link that down below I did get a message today saying I think you've been hacked so maybe that's a a part of that I have no idea it's funny Lany Wilson you said this though cuz I distinctly remember seeing you a couple days ago on Instagram it's before and after yeah then somebody's using it it's not us oh oh somebody is using an like it was a post I not going to lie I didn't take it in a lot but I was like d yeah that's definitely somebody somebody's using it yeah kind of like they did old Lany Wilson did youall see that one no Happ so you know how Lany lost some weight over the past year people are saying that she takes their weight loss gummies and so Lany got on Instagram she's like hey y'all I want to let y'all know I lost weight cuz I'm hustling my butt off I don't take weight loss gummies and I was like that would be nice though she's like that would be nice though so I need to get on there and tell people I don't know where that is that's why I was like where did you guys see oh no I found the link though and I know exactly where it is okay is it but I got a targeted ad we we YouTube video is it yeah it's on Old YouTube video in the description that makes sense yeah yeah who's your creative inspiration you have any like creators that you creators or comedians or yeah I uh I like Cat Williams oh wow I for whatever reason this little white girl from Alabama like all of her favorite comedians are all black guys and it's so funny cuz it's like I grew up in a predominantly uh White town but my dad's favorite iians were Dave Chappelle and Cat Williams um Tracy Lawrence not Tracy Lawrence Martin Lawrence Tracy lawence find out who are Martin Lawrence um shout out to Tracy though great song man you're missing your icon I was say you're also a country music singer these days yeah it's getting weird y'all we at in a full length album who am I missing Lucio ball she was black though I was going through my favorite black I know I'm surprised you didn't say that that's her biggest inspiration for a comedy really yeah yeah Lucille Ball man Lucille oh my gosh the she truly did change the game when it comes to women and comedy especially in that era not Liza Koshi are you Liza Koshi fan she doesn't know who that is I just I just showed you her she was like she got oh the Tik Tok girl you should look at it she's not a Tic Tac girl sorry she she start it on Tik Tok no she yeah she started on Vine but YouTube and then she's been in a lot of she's been in like every movie I've seen lately she's like now transitioning into like Hollywood she got she was the biggest Creator on social I would say she's transition she's there oh yeah yeah she's like arrived yes I mean cuz she was in this movie and then she started promoting this movie and then she was in and she's like no longer on socials as much but go back and watch her YouTube video you can take notes cuz she does different characters bro like uh jet what's his last name jet kazinski or something like that she she has different and Helga I used to love I'm a YouTube I would take a watch her on like Tik Tok though because her YouTube are no take it back YouTube I but she does her short skits on Tik Tok which like give you the summary of her comedy okay I'll I'll find her YouTube I literally just showed her watch her on Tik Tok watch them all I I showed you her what like a month ago I was like why do you not know who this is cuz we were watching a movie with her in it she was like I have no idea I'm not a huge consumer though like yeah I have my people that I like and I'm not out trying to like find more I got my people like I'll watch Cat Williams from the early 2000s Dave Chappelle before like 2004 and then lucil ball like i' you know I've got my people that I like and then I just don't consume a lot of content like that's probably better I don't know she but I what's her name Eliza Liza I'll send you I'll send you a link yeah you're going to Li to Liza I'll send you some Tik toks please do I can't wait to watch her um it doesn't have to be the closing question but I'm just curious I want to jump to it having fun I know let's just hang out Andrew keep every get we need to start giving you a time limit I actually had this thought that Caroline's going to be in the back going like um I feel like one of my favorite things Advice for couples that we've taken away from this convers is like how to navigate relationships with trauma feel like we get a lot of questions about that MH if you guys were to give one piece of advice to couples yeah given everything that your Journey's kind of gone through what would that be wait can I give you advice real quick got I just need a little p I thought it was really let me start with you Sean I think you smudged the you colored outside you know how da was talking about coloring Outside the Lines you did a little bit of that with your eye shadow right you're being creative and I appreciate that go I appreciate your creative outl look to if I could give anybody any piece of advice I think it' be to lead with empathy I don't think you can be angry I don't think you can be judgmental I don't think you can be overreactive if you're in an empathetic place so I think we forget that like you are in a marry Min or in a relationship with somebody that grew up so different than you no matter what it may look like on the outside there was different conversations in the household there were different experiences there's different personality traits and I mean like us as individuals that's just an entire entity of things we can go down but then try to create a relationship around two different worlds I mean I think we forget that I think a lot I mean like the conversation you guys had about your relationship with family you would think growing up that everyone was like that or you might think that everyone was like the way that you were and I think if you can be empathetic and open to other other people's experiences as well as finding empathy to have patience and just lead with kindness and love at the end of day at the end of the day if you're not showing your partner unconditional love then you're just hurting them you know like and that was something I had to navigate really intensely and intently with d because I even though I was so angry sometimes that she was choosing her mom's conversation or the trauma that she had over me to where it hurt me deeply I had to remember she's not doing this to me she's doing this in a reaction of right and so the empathy had to lead or I had to lead with that empathy to show her unconditional love no matter how you react to your trauma I'm still going to love you through it and I think at the end of at the end of the day there's no person that would be mad that you're showing them empathy you know there's only goodness that can come out of that absolutely um the thing how you going to follow that one I don't know man that was give me some baby that was good um the thing I've had to learn in our relationship Listening skills when navigating it is when my wife comes to me and is telling me a feeling that she has or a problem or anxiety or a struggle I want to find the solution and uh there's some moments where she's not looking for a solution she's not looking for me to like lecture her give her like the clear to something she just needs me to to be there and to listen to her and so for me it's just to really hone in and and work on those listening skills because I think I get that from my dad my dad always gave me lessons and always gave me a solution versus sometimes I just needed my dad to just listen so for me I've had to like really work on that make sure that she feels heard um cuz especially as women which which it's funny I don't know when God made me I think he got real confused he was like we're going to put you in a woman body but give you a man's brain it's just so for me like I I just have really had to to hone that skill and not always try to be the the masculine energy that wants to provide the solution and fix it in that moment yeah as just let's just listen for a moment make sure she feels really understood and really heard so I love that I bet you do oh yeah I bet you do cuz it's it happens at least once a day where i'm like I got to work on that Denise she doesn't need a solution right now she just want you to just freaking sit on a stool and listen to her talk while she's in the shower seriously yeah love that I know to your point about empathy someone the other day said like don't you think God just up there like bored with humans at this point after like thousands of years I was like no the amount of Ridiculousness like you everybody is so different and wild and quirky it's like yeah bro that would be I think we keep surprising him probably like dang I have that feeling too what are you doing now but that's what makes it fun it's like wow you know Murphy's Law like anything that can happen will it's like all right well what are the possibilities today baby it's really crazy how you can have the same experience as 300 people and there will be 300 different reactions I'm like how are we all not crying laughing screaming or whatever like everyone's like the way that we react to good news and bad news and like da was saying like when she when I do need her to just listen and she's being reactive it's just like why did you think that was going to work you know and so it's like it's it's comical and I think that's where like you the empathy comes in it's just everyone's so funny like and then you add media into that and social media and outside opinions and then our world of having to manage that also while talking to a microphone right now hoping that this is being perceived well you know right oh my gosh I really hope this comes across well yeah yeah has social media been a good thing net net positive for you guys yeah definitely it's given us more freedom to just live the life that we want to live Mandy worked at 9 to5 before we met and then I was tied to you know other people's schedule with real estate with uh content creation it's like we not only get to create the things that we're passionate about like with Mandy it's a lot of beauty a lot of Lifestyle a lot of fashion with me it's comedy that's all I've ever wanted to do so not only are we fill in those passions but it also allows us just like you guys to be able to spend the time during the day devoted to creating and in spending the time we want with our family yeah and I think growing up I think if myself or D saw a relationship like ours our early 20s would have been a lot easier um just personally and then also so I think it's such a beautiful thing you can connect with people that you would have never met I mean we had a message the other day that this person was going through chemo that would just go to our pages every single day and just find joy and laughing with us and she was like this is what I do in chemo and I'm like what like that is what our little 15-second minute Clips can do for people like and that's where all of the weird hate comments or the spam or whatever like it just doesn't matter because if you're changing somebody's day like making them smile because of a video that you created because you were having fun at home like how freaking cool you know people people give social media bad rap I know but I'm like it's pretty amazing it really is I don't feel like people give social media bad rap that are our generation or younger if you've like grown up with it you understand it and you can utilize it I think it's really hard for anybody older than us to wrap their head around my dad's my my dad my dad's still my Dy he still ask how do y'all make a living yeah you know it's very hard for him to understand just cuz again like you said he just got an iPhone not long ago so it's like yeah I just feel like they're on the wrong side of the algorithm if it's not a positive space creating that space you know that right Facebook so my agent was like you need to be on Facebook because when we start booking out your Comedy Tour like Facebook is a big reason where we can find your demographic to know what cities to go to I was like oh I didn't think about that yeah let me get on Facebook oh my God yeah the comments they're always I love 65 and plus Community okay but on Facebook it let me just go and pinpoint this demographic 65 to 75 they don't realize or they maybe they do that they're leaving a really nasty public comment I think they think sometimes they're sending it to somebody else and they're like look at this ugly lady that looks like she could be a man in her wig and I'm like why would you type that out they're brutal and then they usually always have some sort of political affiliation as their cover profile or their profile picture always um and I'm just share all like Syndicate all your stuff to Facebook as well yeah pretty much yeah I will say this that you grow like wildfire on there like you but you got to be they will cut you to your knees yeah I just always think it's funny like my parents on Facebook and like nothing else and some of the links I get sent from like my mom I'm just like Mom what are you doing this is the Russians like you can't be believing these she's like did you see what happened like that didn't happen I know cuz like that age group they're like propaganda propaganda and I'm like y'all are propaganda on Facebook you are cultivating propaganda like it is the most it's just the most depressive app I've ever been on and I've never been on the right side of Facebook so I'm not sure there is one um I will continue to bless Facebook with my content and not read the comments just's content on there I'm like I don't even want to sandbox comments are so bit they're bad I have two more questions one is what are your goals career-wise now well uh we have a lot in the works right now that we haven't really been able to share so thank you for asking that but uh right now I am writing with Mandy and some other songwriters in Nashville um a fulllength comedy country album so the album will be integrated a lot of the songs will be integrated into my one woman show so I'm coming out with a comedy show uh hopefully by q1 of next year and the comedy show is going to be it's not standup it's uh it's a onew woman show where I it is me the entirety of the show and I'm going to have characters that I created on Tik Tok integrated into the show I'm going to be doing a lot of Storytelling and then those storytelling or those stories rather will lead into the songs that I've written about those stories so um ticket yet not yet but soon but soon um and Mandy has been helping me write the comedy show she surprisingly being from California she has such a knack for Southern Culture and humor I think CU she has such a fresh perspective it's just so much funnier yeah so much funnier but uh yeah those are like the two big goals right now and um I I can't I'll tell you all fair but it'll happen within a couple of weeks what are your goals Mandy well I I like I was saying earlier is I I love the Creator process and so obviously Instagram and building our social media platforms out but writing the show has been so fun cuz it's not just people think that you're just like sitting down writing jokes mhm but it's an entire show process of like when you're gonna enter the stage what exit How You Gonna integrate the audience what type of way are you gon to integrate each you know new character and stuff so I'm helping write the show helping write music um I also she's a big write on road hard which is so funny because she's so classy like maybe like so classy for her to write Road hard and put up wet I'm like this is weird I know um but I also like in this season I'm a big support to DA's career but down the road we are about to launch a podcast as well let's go so we would love to do like a podcast tour and have you guys own it of course yeah of course um but also like I would love like a TV sitdown Morning Show or just a conversation like and I think it'd be really fun for Dan and I have a new space in that whether that looks like a late night show a morning show a talk show um but what I was also saying is d d recently signed to she has an agent now for TV and film as well and they're booking out a comedy tour but also with so many more opportunities I mean like I am just so open to creative spaces as well as entertainment and so like my goals are obviously to build out her comedy career and our podcast and that tour but also to just be more in the entertainment space like I would love to do interviews for Vogue one day like that would be so much fun um I also love architectural digest so I love to if I could tour some of those houses yeah I would she would make like me and I've talked about it hosting in some capacity or interviewing whether that's at like New York Fashion Week or at the Oscars on the red carpet Mandy just like loves High fashion so she would know like you put me on the red carpet I don't even know what those brands are but Mandy loves High fashion like fashion week would be like her Jam yeah so to be able to like host in some capacity like I think she' knock it out of the park so it was cool to see you do Tim MCG well not do Tim MCG but it was cool to see your interview Tim mcgr a couple of weeks ago um yeah just cuz that's the trajectory of where you want to go is to be able to get in those spaces and then with TV and film if like ever say da had a TV show and they wanted me as a cameo I wouldn't say no we actually not to derail this combo but Mandy and I got to be extras in um a movie with um Eugene Levy from shits Creek um Diane Keaton and Kathy Bates back in March that's awesome it was so cool to do that together because like we're sitting in this room where they're filming this scene with all these massive aess actors and like Mandy and I are like almost forgetting that we're on camera cuz we're like so enamored with the actors we're like watching them and it was really cool to see them all do their thing like Kathy Bates is like a method actor she never breaks character even when she's on lunch break so like you can't go up and be like hey Kathy cuz she's still in her character yeah Eugene Lev is the most serious comedic person I've ever been around like he would go he would be pacing the room and Counting his steps and and and being very strategic and methodical and then he get back to a comedy space where he's being super Goofy and then like Diane Keaton is Diane Keaton in every movie she plays like on or off camera um but I think we really got bit by the bug of I've always wanted to be in television and film but I Mandy really got bit by the bug when she was on set for those two days cuz it was like this is this such an art and it's so cool to see people do it especially from behind the scenes when you've never seen that side of it yeah all right last thing I want to hear your engagement story oh my gosh y'all it was the best we have a YouTube video on it uh hopefully we don't have workout links on that YouTube um but uh Mandy Andy it was her birthday and uh I had booked a resort that I could barely afford at the time this was back in uh you could leave those details up yeah just kidding it was like a bougie Resort in Southern California I was like babe we do not belong here but we about to be engaged here and I booked it and um I told her on her birthday on January 7th I said we're going to go to this really nice uh steakhouse that's in the resort she's like babe you're so sweet for doing this for me like nobody's ever done something like this for my birthday I can I talk like that I was like well get ready um I was like but hey if we could though like let's let's uh get outside like an hour before our reservation cuz I want to fly the Drone up and I want to take some pictures with the ocean in the background and because it's January at a beach resort there was like nobody there so I was like we are all by ourselves so we got out there an hour ahead of time and um I had put the ring in the Drone pocket and and I was like okay go go stand over there while I get this drone ready and she's like no no no I'll just stand right here and I'm like go stand over there you put the ring on the Drone no no no in the Drone uh like like case cuz I didn't want to it I was I don't ever fly it and so she knew I wasn't going to open it okay I like no no no go over there Minny so Mandy walks and takes her cute little place and then I grab the ring and put it in my hand and then I fly the Drone up and I get it just right to where I want it and it's just beautiful landscape in man and I were just right in the middle and then I was like all right well I'm going to snap a couple of photos with the Drone and um I was like let's do one where we Spin and so I spun her and as her back was to me I got down on one day and she spun around I had the ring and I was holding it up and it was like in the video you see her she goes like she just rocks back like oh my God how did you pull this off but I thought she fell at first I was like are you okay yeah I was like oh my goodness and I had her mom Mom and Dad's at the very tiptop balcony she had no idea that they were there and so they started clapping and then this lady that was on her balcony she goes I knew you were going to propose she started clapping and um beautiful and then we went and we had dinner at uh I think it's a bourbon steak is it I think it is bourbon the same bourbon um here I believe they had one have you guys ever been to Dana Point yes so it was the Monarch in Dana Point oh sick they've changed the name s somebody bought him out but uh yeah it was not thearch anymore it was beautiful it was amazing and then we called my dad right after and got to celebrate with him and um yeah the videoos on on YouTube and it's it's really cheesy because it looks like we're just going to have a a vlog and then at the end you're like wait a minute this is a very extravagant engagement yeah did you get married and tell ride and no we went on a a honeymoon and tell ride and I got Al sick like [ __ ] up I ate a buffalo sandwich at the airport which was no bueno you never do that at the Montrose airport I think it has all of one gate and a man that's like Buffalo sandwiches Buffalo sandwiches and I was like God I'm so hungry I'll take one and then by the time we got to our Resort I was altitude sick and I was sick eating buffalo chicken so Mandy and I had a very romantic honeymoon she was she had ude sickness for like a day and a half and then we did we were able to like go and it was rough I'm not going to lie we went buffal I could not function really I was so sick the whole like my brain felt like it was coming out of my head I'll never go again no it was beautiful though it was beautiful so beautiful I had time it 11,000 feet above sea level I literally thought my brain was exiting my body yeah no amount of Tylenol yeah I felt and the like death he was like just put this oxygen tank on your face and just like breathe in every 10 minutes and I'm like what kind of honeymoon is this he was like just like really suck it down and I was like crazy how ever freaking I didn't I didn't feel it and then we went out we booked this uh horse horse thing horse back riding yes yeah that's what it is back and the man his name was Rowdy and he was uh I think he was 85 the horse no the man that owns the ranch and he comes out and he's like this is how he starts the ride he goes good morning and we were like there was a group of like eight of us and we were like good morning how do y'all know each other and I go we just got married we're on our honeymoon and he goes hope you don't like Biden and I was like this is the like tell your ride is the weirdest I will never listen if you live in tell you ride shout out to you but we had the weirdest experience great you had a great time I bet you did I was not sick and I my horse was great and it's beautiful out there it is beautiful it is I got to show you pictures that we took like a group picture with our friends we went with and I I think it was the altitude like we all got swolled up like our face was swollen do you remember I don't remember anything I was my bra dude I'm with you on that my head hurts so bad can I get a golf course I had three really bad um head injuries and so I was reading to where when you've had tbis or concussions that altitude affects you more so did you ever fall on your head in gymnastics like did you ever get a concussion I nothing diagnosed but I'm sure I'm sure maybe a little bit but on my head quite a few times it was like a like a pressurizer like it just yes yeah it was like like it like your brain is leaving meanwhile Mandy was just like have my tea aace there's a Thai restaurant a couple of box down I'm going to go walk down and get some and I'm like what is my voice I'm like I can't breathe bu chicken our our whole group did like a threeh hour hike to the top of one of the mountains and they even went further yes they're psychos dude me y need to watch out for them friends I'm telling you there are few things more important for your health than 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