No Labels No Walls - June 1, 2020 - Action Monday - Adam Christoferson from Music Beyond All Borders

we can start with the introductions and i'll help adam to get in three three eight nine three one ah so william you're up yeah so good evening good morning good afternoon and i'll cover it just at the end good night don't don't anyone drop off to sleep because i ain't bedtime yet um but it is just after five o'clock here in in aberdeen and scotland in the uk so i think we'll go around and get to know everybody find out where everybody is and find out what time it is with everybody so i'll start with marcus hi everybody i'm i'm here in the sunny finland as you can see always the same picture but uh everything is fine i'm very very eager to to hear about music beyond all borders from all walks of life and uh and waiting for the festival as well thanks i apologize if i pronounce your name wrong i'll pick kevin would you like to introduce yourself and tell us where you're from picked the wrong time to be chewing gum how rid of me hi everyone my name is kevin o'brien i am one of the music facilitators over at musical intervention i work very close with adam christopherson invited me to this meeting facebook via facebook and i figured i'd pop in just to get like a just to get to know everyone involved like this is like a big opportunity even if we are miles apart so did i say miles i mean you know countries eons okay um we record music we write music we host open mics every thursday night even with this uh pandemic we've been able to host live streams of concerts and even archival footage so that's been incredible you say the least we are located in new haven connecticut and we've pretty much been getting in touch with a lot of organizations such as with several schools outreach programs and we go out into the community to put on incredible shows when we see fit i'm sure when adam gets here he'll definitely say more than i could who who's i wonder who's next tim do you want to introduce yourself and tell us a bit about yourself nothing much to say hello everybody i'm professor great jen do you want to go next hello everybody um i'm dan o'brien i am in block winner in scotland which is a new village outside of glasgow and it's sunny which is unusual and i helped to run i'm co-founder of music broth which is scotland's musical instrument library um we have been parts of music bundle borders we organized the instruments that went across to the belfast conference and mental health last year and yeah so we've got about 1400 instruments where we are and we also do workshops and i'm doing a lot of online stuff so that's us pia do you want to go next since you're on your daily walk you forgot to unmute yourself okay now i found yeah i wanted to know whether you would unmute me or whatever i would do hi hi i'm pia i'm also in heisinki it's uh just after 7 p.m well i don't know what to say i've been with no label snow walls since the beginning and i've done all kinds of things and i'm part of the furniture i suppose and uh yeah i'm looking forward to this evening thanks i see we have a rather we'll come back into what can only be a rather bald non-ginger baby looking face alistar would you like to introduce yourself and tell us how that accident happened this week well i tell you the harshness of william ray just as well i can him and i kind of slap him from here um so yes we had a we had a feel good friday event on friday um which was like a hosted web chat inclusive web chat and william's been at me for a while to to shave off my beard and to celebrate the end of lockdown so uh so i went for the full the full all-over shave so i'm from sunny aberdeen no need for a virtual background look at the sunshine and the beautiful trees at the back um i just really pleased to be here looking forward to the music tonight and next to alistar since he's laughing and uh he's my next victim once we're completely out of lockdown i'm sure he'll shave his head off keith yeah well um yes i'm keith heatherington from in control scotland um in very sunny glasgow you know in a very warm attic with sunlight streaming through but i've not been inside this weekend i've been away camping but only in the back garden but it just shows you how much good fun you can have without having to go very far thank you keith um i think i'm going to write suze i think i've got it right holy if i've got it wrong hi do you mean to be or yes not my best skill yeah that was great so my name is suey and i'm in helsinki and last year i was making this first festival here in helsinki and actually i i should be now in edinburgh scotland but on holiday so but helsinki is good also very shiny day here and i think we'll go to last next do you mean me yes yes um i'm fine i'm also in helsinki finland and i'm cooperating with marcus and i was also creating the last year's festival here in helsinki and i have been kind of a background worker in the uh no labels no walls since july last year and i'm looking forward what this summer and autumn will bring to us all okay um and i think i'll go to the person that's next to me on the screen and that's rukov yes um it's been a sunny day here in helsinki and uh i went to a library for the first time because i spent time there and went to cafeteria and done some news music already today and uh um going for looking forward to not missing a nice meeting and i apologize if i get this one wrong but i will go to pavalo next i think i got it wrong completely there [Music] 7 15 pm and i am from a catalyst an association of trans cultural artists i think i saw some of you before and of course we were also in the first edition of the festival so yes i'll go to vr or vin next uh you mean me yes sorry about these difficult names yeah i'm from finland salo and i'm one of the organizers of european conference on mental health and last year in belfast the music beyond all borders gathered there and they organized some great workshops where they practically from zero record recorded two songs which are quite uh good actually um i think you may have seen the document that adam adam and trevor made from this conference but yeah i'm looking forward to see what's what they are up to next and i'll go to peter next yes hello my name is peter and i'm from sweden i work at a place called drama logan which is which is culture workers working with the culture for in social ways various ways uh it's nice to see you all i'm happy and uh yeah it's good rico for instance very nice to see you it was a long time ago so great yeah nice to see you too thank you yeah and i will go to adam next forgive me forgive me i had some technical difficulties so since you had some technical difficulties adam we're just introducing ourselves and seeing where we're from adam christopherson over here at connecticut united states uh founder director of musical intervention and uh co-founder of the beautiful music beyond all borders family okay i will go to natalia i think next i think i've got it right it's neasley measly are you there hi good morning everyone hi good morning my name is nicely i am living in los angeles and i just came in for my run so i'll be back with you in just a second good to be here um who have i not been to they said uh elizabeth who just elizabeth elizabeth can you hear us she might be getting on i think that's it um i'm sorry i'm late zoom wouldn't open up i had to start close everything up and reboot and everything it wouldn't open up so here i am i'm from espo finland well i'm from maine actually usa but i live in esco finland oh hi and how can i forget our lovely two hosts up in the corner yeah who are who are unmuting and reminding me of names when i'm struggling no no no don't worry uh you're doing great um so yeah michael and matty strimberg laboratory theater company when there used to be theater joke uh but uh hopefully it'll open up again very soon uh we are in los angeles we're in los angeles i'm originally from finland and last year we were in finland to do the no label snowball that's right we were there and then unfortunately we have to leave the lovely finland and come back to l.a with turkey which is good too sometimes man thanks glad to hear you good to be here so i think since everyone's here i think i will ask adam to tell us a bit about the music for adventure in the usa and about music beyond music beyond all borders thank you so much william and hi everyone it's good to see you all marcus uh it's amazing you could play is that a golf course it looks great anyways um yeah sorry again i had i don't know it was very weird like zoom experience i had to like uninstall it and then reinstall it very weird but anyways i'm really really glad to be here um i worked pretty hard on this music video this morning to show you guys i wracked my brain and i was wondering william if i could kind of show this video before i got into it you guys want some music yeah it's it going okay good yeah all right let me uh let me if you don't mind just maybe make me a host so i could share the screen um so this song i wrote some time ago and it was during the beginning thank you so much william it was during the beginning of um you know the the lockdowns and and the pandemic that that's going on and um and i was really moved by all of the work that people are doing in the hospitals and so after writing this song i invited some of my friends from music beyond all borders and jen i see you and um uh yeah marcus uh reveal he is in finland uh kukanori and uh he played some drums and i had some other friends join in on this song and we were able to go beyond all borders to to make this song so please enjoy i'll share it right now here we go [Applause] enjoy [Music] thank you for now we being how lucky we are foreign it cut my sound yep same for me yes i guess it's better [Music] you say [Applause] [Music] me [Music] [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Applause] foreign foreign [Music] [Music] it's [Music] thank you yeah that's great i gotta say i loved watching peter listen with those pink headphones it was beautiful autumn yes william thank you can i ask if that a video could be emailed to marcus who's got everybody's email address and could share it with everybody if you're okay with that i know it cut out for some folk and was glitching for some people i think so i don't know if folks maybe want to watch it later when we're not on zoom and if adam's okay with that yeah that was the world premiere right there i'm gonna uh i'm gonna upload it and then i'll give it to you and you'll be all set to grind with it so inspiring thing you know and you guys have mentioned uh you know there's some lockdowns going on and and other pressing issues that are going on around our country um and so that's a feel-good uh song for you know the work that people are doing in the hospitals and there's more songs to be written for other things that are going on in this world um so to to move on musical intervention um is something that i've dreamt of uh so i come from um an interesting background where my mother has uh paranoid schizophrenia my father is a vietnam veteran with alcoholism uh and my uncle is michael bolson the singer and so i had this very strange reality uh going from uh living with no money and living in state assisted living with my mother to going to like huge concerts with my uncle michael and so music was always a big part of my life and i discovered drums early on at 8 years old and then poetry in high school and then i started writing songs in 2002 when i graduated high school and that was the beginning of really finding uh my space in life uh and creating music and having an anchor to life getting away from drugs and all the way from problems and so i pursued that and then i started to go to college and i got a degree in recreation therapy and i started working at the inpatient psych hospital at yale new haven hospital and it was at the child psych hospital that i got a chance to help other kids write and record original music and i began to see that it was pretty impressive that other people could experience the same thing that i experienced within myself which is finding themselves in a whole new way within music i started to do uh this service called musical intervention with a variety of other populations and it was in 2015 that i just finished doing a lot of work with the homeless and finding out that there was nowhere to go that was uh you know productive and very few places that they were welcomed to go and so i had an opportunity to open up the space uh in new haven it's 2300 square feet i don't know how that relates to the metric system but um the it's a beautiful space that has a performing arts uh stage it has a recording studio it has workshop areas and a coffee shop we sell records and it's a very welcoming space and it was right off the bat when i opened up the door that people came and felt home there and it's been unbelievable experience uh for so many years now we have not unfortunately been open um because of the risks to the population um and so we are doing some work here oh i just noticed kevin o'brien is here so kevin o'brien is one of our music facilitators at musical intervention yeah yeah uh you might have saw kevin playing the keyboard there on the uh and uh kevin is there uh while when we were open on a very regular basis and we would um provide uh recording capabilities and and um a welcoming environment to people who often don't have that accessibility don't even have access to a recording studio or a way for somebody to capture their ideas and so it's been really phenomenal i mean we have so much music and so much talent that we've been able to cultivate within our community i mean it's astonishing the talent that lies dormant and unheard just strictly because of financial problems or psychological issues barriers things like that a lot of the work that i do outside of um the headquarters it's mainly an outgrowth of the work that i do in inpatient psychiatric settings i work with connecticut mental health center and i work at a connecticut valley hospital which is a prison setting for the criminally insane and also another place where amazing um people have are lying dormant and their talents are lying dormant because there's no accessibility to uh share their music and their and their story with people and it was at an international symposium at yale that i met frank reilly and frank riley is a phenomenal phenomenal person from he was from the scottish recovery network i don't know he's a facebook phenom right now i don't know exactly what he's doing i i know that he's uh he's making a big difference in scotland and uh he introduced me to marcus and marcus to peter and peter to jen and we've gotten a chance to really develop this music beyond all borders effort and find each other in belfast thanks to virva we had the time of our lives getting a chance to do some workshop at the european conference on mental health and yeah it continues the ball keeps rolling even though we don't get a chance to physically be in the same room with a lot of the people we work with we're still running groups online with schools and we are beginning to meet in public in open spaces to record one-on-one with people thank you for having me thank you very much for that adam it was very very interesting does anyone have any questions before we move on to discussing how music beyond all boarders could participate in no no labels no walls and we are one festival on the 19th of september 2020. if you raise your hand or use the reaction buttons adam if you want if you change the host back to uh me or william then i can unmute people you have to if you because you're the host now so if you want to change it back to me then i can mute riku because i think he had a question you really had a question keith i think so keith's hand up yeah i just i'm not the host he's got a i think you can you can reclaim the host oh i can should be a button that says reclaim host where is it take back what is yours can you unmute yourself you had a question i i yeah here i am all right yeah uh i i just wanted to ask um about that area there in um where you live in when you can uh you know share people and sell your records and all that kind of stuff that you told about when you're uh assuming it to open again first of all rico i miss your music so much i love hearing it i love your voice thank you you are so good too um so yeah we have some strict uh guidelines of opening up uh to the public especially you know being in a downtown area where the government's opening up in waves and so there are a lot of strict procedures that we need to have in place and that takes personnel to you know be responsible for cleaning at a i mean it's a kind of a large space too so we're starting to co you know kind of come up with different ideas instead of allowing more you know about five people in at one time we would have to move instruments into different sections of the space so we're trying to get creative and allowing people to have i mean a large more than six feet distance uh and also order i also wanted to mention um with regards to that so we um we were accepted for this federal uh funded grant to study songwriting and music on folks who have auditory hallucinations and the how it impacts the symptom and we still haven't even got started because as soon as we were getting started everything got closed down and so we've been collaborating and trying to figure out a ways to do it and one way that we're um beginning to discuss uh some of you might know that they sell these uh vocal isolation booths they're kind of big squares and they're made out of basically foam and we're thinking because the idea is uh sing it's called sing songwriting in a group and um we're going to take at least we're proposing that we take five of them are seven because there's seven groups and we set up five of them in a circle and there's a glass piece that you can look through and so there would be isolation booths and um but we would all be in the same space and still see each other and hear each other in real time and maybe even feel each other's energy in some capacity and so yeah we're trying to get creative about ways especially regarding singing because you're pushing quite a bit of air out and um you know we just have to watch out that that doesn't get into the to the wrong nose that's a great idea songwriting in the booth you have there it's it should be great yeah right isolate total isolation with each other sounds like my mind yes thank you yeah i had a question hi thanks that sounds really interesting um i was just wondering can anybody come and sing with you or do you have to have a diagnosis of sorts in order to to sing with you or how does it work how do you get your people or others people that you work with are they in the places that you work in thank you pia yeah um so the beautiful thing about the space is um so i do meet a lot of people in the inpatient settings and you know and outpatient groups and so um they know what we're doing and they get an open invitation to come of course uh because it's open to the public uh what's really interesting about the space is non-clinical so it's a different approach when they're walking in they're not nobody's signing anything when they're walking in it's just an open space to make music and so being in a downtown area on a main road and having like records outside and music kind of playing outside and people gathering people tend to just find their way in and uh it's a beautiful mixture of all types of people uh with and without diagnosis but yeah we still do get referrals and we get agencies that utilize our space during off times um like we're closed on monday and uh on monday we run a group with young adult services from one of our local mental health providers and then a lot of the people that come there also come during the week and mingle and make music and collaborate with the general population which is a great way to to live so it's true no labels no walls basically nice i think keith you had a question yeah i was just gonna ask adam how he put together that song that you played as just there what was it what was the process that you got that you did that got that together like that uh so we we experimented earlier uh with the music beyond all borders song that uh the fellow in the lower right middle section uh jeremiah wrote uh called exactly thank you keep the peace and that was our first time um and peter and marcus and all i mean geez i feel like everybody got involved there and um so the idea is you start with a song um for for these two songs they were already created so jeremiah and i had wrote written that song years past and um we thought it was a good time to put it together and so we started with the basic track which is the guitar and vocals along with a metronome to lock it in place and i believe we started sharing that with the different musicians and facilitators that were able to record their sections and also videotape it at the same time and all the videos and the audio tracks got brought back to me and i was able to kind of edit it put it together in that way this one in particular i wrote in a very similar way and so mainly people are using their own daw system digital audio recording system and what i'm finding now out of necessity is that there's many other ways to get things done too and so there's one website called bandlab i know there's plenty of them but bandlab has been able i've been able to collaborate with people online without them having to have a macintosh or they could do it straight from any any android or apple phone and so they can add their vocals onto it um you know using headphones and a little microphone that's attached to it um and we've been able to to kind of put songs together that way also and so you know people are singing and then we just kind of put the video together okay so i think we'll have a discussion there about how music beyond all borders could participate in the no label mind you've covered that i suppose number four and we've done four we've killed two birds one stone i think i could be wrong the host will remind me if i'm wrong or right you could maybe keep those birds flying a bit longer yeah i think i think the big thing maybe we can ask people to um like because you mentioned singing you know having a group from like all over the world maybe we can think of an event on no labels for the festival that kind of takes that you know we can do a new song or maybe have even more people collaborating maybe in real time um just to show unity i don't know what you guys are all thinking or what you're all thinking but something like that more specific just some ideas keith marcus marcus in the see the email when he sent out about today's session there was something wasn't in there about creating a big a big sound and a big band and a big a lots lots of people from different places getting involved in doing something yes we we can invite people to to songs uh this covet time has released technology that perhaps you have seen a lot of choir videos this kind of technical solutions how to join a lot of people together live playing is is is quite hard due to the fact that the internet connections are delayed but all sorts of other production means where we are collecting for example pieces to create original piece for the festival is something that we can begin already now and collect things as we go or we can do it at the event at the festival in in shorter time but i i like i really like the idea of music beyond our borders inviting people to collaborate with music i i guess that the the task is coordinating all this material and put it in in place but i i think we can find these persons as well what do you think jen and kevin peter yeah i agree i mean adam's doing a great job coordinating that song so you know it was down to him we submitted all our weak pieces to adam and he put it all together so it can totally be done in advance or you know our live whichever people's preferences i think the advanced thing helps if people haven't got kit that records you know live or has technical issues like um so maybe a bit of both would be good because it would um rule out any issues people might have on on the time if they couldn't participate for some reason they still get to put their input in ahead of their time so hi for sure doable i wanted to add because um i know adam was talking about how we were able to get in contact war our space is open to people that don't have access to recording equipment um ever since this lockdown i've been able to get in reach with several friends collaborators of mine some of them before they even was considered by buying a mic one was able to send her vocal tracks via her phone she has a decent iphone and i was able to she sent over like the wav file i was able to mix it in we've been able to like keep it going and just non-stop so i think regardless whether you have a fancy macbook fancy microphone you know expense you know does the jiff does it just but i don't think that should be like a restraint or restriction for everyone that works working with us i think we should make it open anyone that's willing to put in effort and the time yeah what i would what i would want is if i could get is because for a theater company but if you have like a couple sentences with the the project that like once the ideas are formed then we can reach out to our contacts like with jail without uh jail guitar doors they have um they go into jails with guitars and prisons um there's a lot of other groups that we know of that we could maybe get them to join in on whatever you guys are going to be creating i i would just need a little bit about it so i could send the emails out i'd just like to say i think it only starts with a song a gathering and then a song and uh maybe we could all collaborate lyrically uh in creating something for this next um gathering in september and that way you know we have a little melody going and then everybody kind of gives their input and i mean judging by the title there's quite a bit to say um i'm just i'm just wondering how would it practically look like how how would it work would you i mean now let's say somebody wants to sing where do they get the song from i mean how does it work so currently if we had taken this hour and i took out my guitar and we all wrote a song together um the next stage would be to record it and um what we're doing now kind of what kevin was talking about is we would uh right now the best solution is putting it on that we're that we're used to is is putting it on bandlab and whoever has a cell phone or a computer would be able to download that program and record easily onto it it's a fairly easy system to navigate i'm just trying to understand i mean is that happening then on that day or is it happening before so it's ready on the day or of that festival and how would people find you i mean how you know that is that is basically um how to get people how do people get know to know about it if they wanted to take you know i mean sorry guys i mean i'm just trying to underst because i'm still for me it's like how is this going to work with the festival online i was thinking that that would be an uh in an addition to the festival as but marcus was talking much more about some kind of live collaboration live uh integration with each other live um and and the only way that i know how to do it like on zoom if i started playing guitar and we all wanted to sing along everybody would have to mute themselves and you'd have that opportunity to kind of join in with us live but your voice wouldn't be heard except for the main facilitator and so that's one way that that zoom is used um they're doing dance parties and stuff like that you just can't necessarily auditory uh uh contribute that way it has to be done in advance and and you can maybe sing along at home so to speak okay sorry i didn't hear the answer no because i was checked out but anyway i'm i'm sure i'll get the answer after the meeting yeah i think it's a great idea because la like i said if once um the the the compositions formed then you know we can start kind of sending the links out to that app that you're talking about and getting people to you know record and then you know compiling this the video and i think um another thing what i excited about the festival we kind of talked earlier about it is that we can get a lot of new people because it's virtual um so we can get a lot of people maybe from different places maybe that we don't have an uh outreach yet you know so i i would be looking forward to keep talking with people maybe that we don't know right now getting them to you know join in as a way to introduce the no labels no walls and also what all the work that you know everyone's doing i also think that the nice way you you do things adam that that when people are people are feeling so everybody kind of are joined in in the music video uh to the song it's it's also a very nice way to get people to spread it uh later on so so maybe maybe this is some kind of two step two steps uh space rocket uh where where the where the song is is being made people are watching it and filming themselves themselves and then the the stage number two is where everybody is on like very very small festival part i mean yeah i just was thinking uh could i take responsibilities to start that live song by um sending a little music clip by example to uh michael's or marco says uh mail and then next everybody get the uh software you need that and uh put it there and uh to start how does it sounds like what do others think i certainly would welcome that idea yeah welcome everybody to uh to join making this song about uh music beyond borders yes so when we when we're watching like things on tv and it shows like tons of people on the screen and they're all singing at the same time it might seem live but it's not um and so they're they're pre-recording it and editing and then presenting it as if it's live during a live discussion um however i can get i did get a heads up that there is a website called jam kazam i'm going to share it in the chat hope to everyone jam kazam and that requires musicians uh and participants to there it is to have an ethernet connection so it can't be over the wi-fi but apparently that doesn't have any lag for live sessions now i have to we're gonna have to do some more research into it to see whether or not these sessions can be broadcasted at the same time um but that could potentially open up an opportunity for live performances from a group of people in different spaces without any laser lags but if there's any help from me i can be here to use was just wondering would that be possible for us to maybe do record some stuff in groups sort of together so like a bunch of us to put some bit together one bit together and we could kind of layer it up over time you know so like because it might be too much for to get everybody you know to get everything right but to do to have a plan and for maybe a few of us to do one bit you know just so we could lay it up just i thought because you want to do it with me you don't want to be on your own i suppose it might also i mean depending on how it goes with covid and whatever and how people are allowed to meet up in public um maybe then it would be possible to get people together and sing together and make um you know play some song maybe that has been online um you know to have a kind of hybrid um festival and and to to record that and to bring that online or yeah in case that it is okay to sing together outside for example does that make sense does anyone has anyone got any final questions because we're just about up to an hour or five we've got about another five minutes left i think i was just wondering is who's uh adam are you gonna be since it's gonna be music you're gonna be then the key point like coordinating that specific event or what what's the next step so you know we can start kind of building this for september uh i think it was really wise to say that we should do this in groups and that we can split the group into a certain amount of people in preparation for it to get at least three or four facilitators to um to team up together i mean i can help with la so if if i just get that information as far as you know like a couple sentences because again i i mean we're you know we haven't done this before and then i can get some people from los angeles in that group so i can definitely be the la group coordinator we can be that so i don't know i would just need that information obviously sent to me by somebody uh for the uh so i can get you know get that coordinating going i have a question is there a theme um for the festival marcus uh yes to this year we are collaborating with our friends from scotland with the we are one community and we just had a had a talk that that this our topic say so much that there's a a lot of things inside no labels no walls and we are one but we had the idea of of open up some somehow thinking about how what's the positive coming out of all these experiences during this year i was asking because if there is a theme and then everyone who is contributing is focusing on that theme it would allow people to bring out their creativity from their own perspective right cultural whatever but everybody's working within the confines of the things so the message whatever the message is and that everybody's sending out the same message but in their own quote-unquote language and they're all called good musical language hmm keith am i right in thinking that we are one had a theme this year yeah what what was i was gonna say what was that again the theme was we are one that is that is the theme that we that we are one that we are all equal and we are trying to make the world more equal and we look into where we can people can be included that's it that's quite really we can all contribute to that it's quite broad it's great it's extremely broad and so it would be better if there is a so you've got theme but you have all these sub themes under that okay we won but yeah and easily that's what we're doing so a marcus should have a um uh cucunar is going to be working on a press release uh very shortly we should have it out soon um but it's going to have certain days so it's going to be saturday the 19th is the big day but we're going to have leading up to the festival days and obviously these action mondays are part of that and in those sub uh in those days like talking about citizenship is one of the themes for one of the days out of the we are one um there's other things that we're going to be in those days um but we're going to have that hopefully and marcus i don't know do you have an update on that for the um i know we're going to be and then we're also going to be having planning meetings starting actually in june developing those themes and that was one of the other things that we're going to be starting this month uh so yeah we absolutely agree we have to have specific themes for each day uh and and where they fit you know where everything fits and that's what we're that's june's goal basically marcus do you have anything else to add about that no like said that there uh there's a lot of strength in combining forces but i i think no labels and no walls it's it's a strong theme in itself and it it it shows at the festival but also it allows us to learn from the we are one community about their themes and and also uh joining forces with with all these other networks joining in but but uh certain certain days will will have certain themes of for example in the scottish community we have talked about the seven keys to citizenship as a way to to going deeper in into the meanings of how how to make citizenship real in in today's world and these these themes will will will show also in inside the program wasn't it a bit like that all the topics that we have now during those meetings that they're basically topics for the festival wasn't that the idea initially yes that's right so these action mondays are teasing each idea so we um the idea is this is that if we only have festival day even if it's two three days there's no way we're gonna have the audience be able then to continue to take action with us in action on their own so these action mondays are a way for us to start teasing these ideas joining new people so we form a community so that community then can continue after the festival's over into the next festivals and you know all of our work and that's the whole idea behind it i mean at the end of the day um if we are online anyway for that festival i mean we can pre i mean what i'm what i'm maybe that has been clear to everyone except me but what i'm just becoming aware of is like okay we have particular dates where we have the festival but we can actually prepare whatever stuff we want to prepare beforehand and then just um make it go live on that day of the festival right yeah i mean it is not like we have to weasel around like we did for the festival at aldi and everybody has to be there and nobody knows what's going on but we already can whoever has something to to ready to prepare whatever art or talk or thing it might be can already prepare that beforehand right like yeah this video that you did one thing that yes yeah exactly exactly but basically not on zoom but through the website or whatever so that people actually can see the can see the things like what the problem that we had now again with zoom was that the the sound was cutting out so you know to have links somewhere that people can go to is that am i getting that now or no i believe that i accidentally muted the video while i was no it's it's always a problem like any video that we've looked at through zoom was like cut and whatever so it's a real pain in the ass sorry excuse my friend to um to watch anything on zoom on you know that's being shared one of the things we're going to do so we have action mondays every monday um but what we're going to start doing is also having festival weekly festival meetings so talking about the technical side of the festival so unfortunately because we only have an hour on these action mondays and everyone's sitting by their computer it's hard to do both um so again in june we're going to be going into uh how we're going to coordinate the festival um whether the specific themes of the festival etc and that's going to be a hopefully on the sundays i will have that either sunday or another day aside from the monday the monday uh uh action mondays and that's the idea as we get closer now towards september and that's what the the plans were before okay i think we're just about at that hour and i'm sure we're all like me getting a bit of a numb um mark so next time um marcus do you want to explain what we've got next time because it is uh i think it's michael and i don't ask me to pronounce the last we'll get it totally wrong from finland who will present about how creation can come together thank you william i'm posting uh this evening it was very nice to to see all of you and next monday at the same time at the same link we will have mikhail sepala who's an uh expert working for the for the uh finland's institution of independence and he is an expert in in this kind of things where we create impact together so he's a networking expert and we have been talking in no label snow walls community that that how how to enhance the movement and mikhail knows quite a bit about movements so let's uh welcome mikhail in a week and and let's join in to to talk about how how we create more impact together and william you now the last hosting is to anoint somebody for next week to be the host that's on you william i think i will hand the baton further down the water uh and down the river to our good friends i wouldn't say good friends to our glass region colleague keith i'm on dominant keith for next week hey joey good choice william very good choice uh uh last thing please tell your friends about this so we are building this up to september um everybody bring one friend uh i know monday mornings are tough for people in los angeles and you know monies are tough um uh afternoons for people in connecticut but let your friends know about this you know we create all this great stuff content everything that we the next festival is the next everybody's work new community etc so please tell your friends and uh thank you thanks to william everybody william uh anything else nope that's it just want to share the link here's the link uh to the youth day of the day video it's really nice to be here thank you so much thank you all thank you thank you all thank you 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