what does Charlie XCX mean when she says I'm so Julia like what does it mean to be so Julia just being that girl and just I think just like like being confident putting yourself out there being out being about being the center of attention just being that [ __ ] so how did you feel when Charlie XX was like I'm G to write this whole song basically about you I mean I was always been a dream of mine to have like a shout out in a song you know and um and when she told me that she was shouting me out in a song and needed and wanted me for the video obviously I was like y'all check my schedule but inside I was like ah and it was the coolest thing ever and the making the video was so fun I was on like two hours of sleep actually um but everyone was amazing she got all the girls it was just like a fun Kiki for the girls she's amazing like she really is like so many girls are like I support women I supporten it's like no you support yourself you know you're the only woman you support and I feel like she really actually supports women and she supports unconventional women and like just women that Society maybe looks at and is confused by she's not confused you know she sees the truth so we love Charlie We Stand that's amazing she's amazing she's amazing so freaking talented really special I know so do you remember the moment you realized you were like that girl like you were Julia in the song no no no no like in life like I mean uh not really no okay how about the moment when you realize you were literally absolutely everywhere all over the Internet and your life was going to scared cuz I was like oh my God I'm I'm getting sick of me like what what's happening you know and also it's like it's happening to you you know so you're just like what's going on you know like what does this mean this never happened before um you know it was definitely like a an exciting time but also like a confusing and anxious time like I dropped like 50 lbs I was like I didn't know how to be cuz I was like oh my God I'm being perceived at all angles like it was just like you know I had to really constantly remind myself to just be myself and like this all this doesn't matter matter you know and now I'm at a place where I'm good I'm grounded again but also being you fuels that right like being you and just answering questions or saying things certain way it ends up fueling the exposure and like I know and I'm literally just being you me and that's like like the moment where you go from just being like a famous like local to being a globally famous person I know yeah cuz you were known in New York City but I was always a celebrity pretty for sure yeah and now you have your books are going for like $2,000 I know pretty wild yeah is Fame something you always wanted it wasn't something I wanted cuz I always felt like it was like not cool to want it you know like it was like cringy like celebrity you like I still I'm still like I'm not a celebrity like don't ever call me that you know like I don't identify like I'm a famous artist period that's it like I don't I'm not in that world those aren't my people like I don't we don't I'm over here and they're over here you know that's just how I feel um but I always knew I would be famous and is it what you expected it to be kind of yeah anything surpris you about now being known not really no cuz like I grew up in like the Britney Spears era of like horrible people just being so horrible on the internet so like seen it all you know by the way like very like intense tactics Paparazzi tactics like wild [ __ ] yeah I mean I guess what's surprising is just how mean other women can be to a woman that's always surprising cuz as a woman I'm like whoa like what's wrong with you you know like who hurt you like go get some therapy you're taking it out on the wrong side you know but it's all cycle you said it it is you know everyone is someone's victim so it's like obviously her husband is really mean to her at home so she takes it out on you know people she's jealous either her child or other women on the internet interesting that's like what a Karen is you know just like a sad one woman with a really mean husband I think no I I I sadly think you're accurate yeah and that's uh you know cuz there you know you have to put that anger somewhere and you go to where whoever's weaker than you because the same way he's bullying you you need to go find to bully