Speaker 1: Last week, we had former Republican
George Conway on the show, a very interesting interview that many of you greatly enjoyed. He
appeared on MSNBC yesterday, and this is a funny little clip, George Conway saying Trump is done
and his brain is fried. And that Trump hit for George Conway. The real sign that Trump is now
out to pasture mentally is that he claimed that the picture of Kamala Harris's crowd, was
I manipulated, which we covered yesterday. Here's George Conway speaking to Jen Psaki.
Speaker 4: What we saw with this tweet yesterday is that last final collapse of Donald Trump's
mental state. I mean, if you think about it, saying that, don't know what, 50, 60,
70,000 people in the aggregate in five, five rallies in different states. Jonathan Chait
put this up. The new of New York magazine put it this way today it's like, that's Lupe year. Then
saying that the moon landings were staged because there were tens of thousands of people were
there, and there are hundreds of people that hundreds of people taking photographs and
videos, you know, hesitate to think that is crazy. And to try to sell it to people is just
as crazy. He's done. He has. His brain is fried. Speaker 1: Hahaha. Now listen, I happen to,
on a personal level agree with George Conway, but we need to sort of try to analyze this in the
context of how would your average MAGA base voters see it? Reasonable Republicans like Chris Christie
and Mitt Romney would hear Trump's claim about the crowd being I manipulated and say, that's
absolutely nuts. Don't pay attention to that. Trump's brain does seem to be fried. However. Many
of your hard core MAGA cultists and we are at the request of many in the audience. We will have
a cult expert back on the program soon to talk about the evolution of the Trump called, because
it is interesting for my from a psychosocial perspective, the hardcore Trump cultist.
We'll hear Trump say the picture. Sure was I manipulated. And then maybe they'll see the video
that we played where the camera zooms out and you see there's very clearly no manipulation. There's
a huge crowd there, tens of thousands of people, and they will say, hey, you know what? Maybe
Trump was right about it being a manipulated. Maybe it wasn't. Maybe even the video you showed
was I manipulated as well. But the important point is that they would do that. Democrats would do
that. They're capable of it. There's nothing morally that would stop them from doing the AI
manipulation and would that they will be satisfied and they will move on rather than saying, wait a
second, Trump is lying again and again and again, and I'm falling for the lies again and again and
again and the promises he makes, he never keeps. And the things he says will happen, never happen.
1929 style depression under Biden. Well, now he's predicting it under Kamala Harris. That is not
the way that the hardcore MAGA cultist will react. The good news, if there is any, is that in this
current situation, we've kind of, you know, we're two and a half months from this election. We've
kind of moved beyond convincing the cultists. Yes. As a matter of curiosity, if you've got one
of these cultists and you see them on Labor Day for a cookout or something, maybe you do try to
convince them. But that's not how we're trying to win this election. This election is going to be
won in two ways swaying the sway of all voters, of which there are increasingly few. Right? We talked
on the bonus show yesterday about the diminishing number of undecideds, especially now that Kamala
Harris is the nominee. And number two, turnout, the MAGA base doesn't really matter anymore. We
don't ever write off a constituency long term. And I write write about this in my forthcoming
book. But in the immediate in the next what is it? 11 weeks, eight. Hold on. Eight, ten weeks,
something like that. Ten and a half weeks before the election. We just need to get turnout going,
and we need to make sure that the suitable voters, that diminishing group, understands the difference
in the stakes here between Harris and Trump and the MAGA cultists be damned for this election. And
then we'll try to deprogram them between now and the next election. Let's take a break. We've
got something very special cooking for you.