2024-2027 Big 12 Scheduling Matrix | What's Trending on BYUSN 11.2.23

LEVELS. THIS IS BIG 12 FOOTBALL, BRO BROTHER. >> Jarom: THANK YOU, DAN HAWKINS. THE MATRIX MOVIE WAS AWESOME. THE LEADERS ANDTHE TRANSFORMERS AND NOW WE HAVE THE 24th AND THE 27th BIG 12 SCHEDULING MATRIX, WE HAVE THE BREAK DOWN OF THE OPPONENTS WHERE WE HAVE NEVER HAD IT. LET'S GO. ROAD GAMES, BYU IS PLAYING ARIZONA STATE, UTAH, UCF. OKLAHOMA, KANSAS, KANSAS STATE AND IF YOU WANT TO SEE THE REST, YOU PROBABLY HAVE ALREADY SEEN THEM. THEY'RE ON THE SCREEN AS WELL AND IF YOU'RE LISTENING TO THIS, YOU CAN LOOK IT UP. MAYBE WE'LL DIVE INTO THEM ON THE CONVERSATION. BUT WE KNOW IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, BYU AND UTAH WAS PROTECTED AND THEN A COUPLE OF TEAMS THAT BYU PLAYED THREE TIMES. ARIZONA, ARIZONA STATE AND KANSAS AND THEN BYU PLAYS EVERYBODY ELSE TWICE. WHAT WOULD YOU MAKE OF THIS 16-TEAM, BIG 12 SCHEDULING MATRIX FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? >> Jason: THERE WAS A LOT. FIRST OFF, I WAS A BIT SURPRISED WE GOT THIS MUCH INFORMATION. WHEN WE FOUND OUT THE DAY BEFORE THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE SOMETHING YESTERDAY. I THOUGHT MAYBE IT WAS GOING TO GIVE US THE FORMAT. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT. >> Jarom: NOT THE ACTUAL TEAMS? >> Jason: NOT THE ACTUAL TEAMS, SO I WAS HAPPILY SURPRISED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO SEE THIS MUCH DONE ALREADY. THE OTHER THING, I IMMEDIATELY GOT DEPRESSED BECAUSE I REM REMEMBERED THAT BYU AND UTAH ARE IN THE SAME CONFERENCE AGAIN. BECAUSE I HAD BEEN ADAMANT -- ONCE THEY HAD SPLIT, I WAS PERFECTLY FINE. >> Jarom: THIS IS OUR THING, THIS IS YOUR THING. >> Jason: I WAS HAPPY WITH THAT SITUATION, SO I WAS DEPRESSED FOR A MOMENT. BUT THEN AS I LOOKED IN -- THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS HERE. OBVIOUSLY, AT LEAST IN MY OPINION, BYU UTAH IS THE MARQUEE BIG 12 RIVALRY. >> Jarom: ISN'T IT WEIRD? THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ONE IN THIS LONG ESTABLISHED LEAGUE. THE ARMGEDDON OF IOWA AND IOWA STATE DOESN'T DO IT, AND PHARMAGEDDON IS ONLY BEING PLAYED THREE OF THE NEXT FOUR. NOT EVERY YEAR. >> Jason: BUT YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT YOU'RE TAKING OUT TEXAS AND OKLAHOMA. SO I LIKE -- I THINK IT'S COOL THAT DAY ONE NEXT YEAR IS THE BIGGEST KEY MATCHUP IN THE CONFERENCE. >> Jarom: IT'S SURPRISING AND GRANTED ITS ONE OF THE MOST UNIQUE, MOST OF WHICH IS THE RELIGIOUS ELEMENT. THE PERCEPTION OF HOLIER THAN THOU AND THE HOLY WAR, WHICH IS NOT AN OFFICIAL NAME FOR T. BUT THAT'S WHAT EVERYONE CALLS T. AND IT'S JUST AWESOME. WE DON'T KNOW THE DATES, BUT WE KNOW THAT BYU AND UTAH ARE PLAYING FOR THE FORESEEABLE FUTURE. >> Jason: DO YOU BELIEVE THAT IT WILL BE ANY OTHER WEEK OTHER THAN THE LAST WEEK? >> Jarom: NO. >> Reporter: I DON'T EITHER. >> Jarom: NO, I WILL BE SORELY DISAPPOINTED IF IT'S NOT, IT NEEDS TO BE IN THAT WEEK. YOU BUNDLE UP AND YOU GO AT IT AND IT'S FUN AND UTAH COMES IN WITH PRESTIGE TO THE LEAGUE, HAVING WON THE PAC 12 IN THE LAST YEARS, AND UTAH COMES IN AND LOOKS LIKE THEY'RE GOING TO BE THE MAIN TEAM SO, THERE'S PRESSURE THERE. AND BYU ON THE RISE, FINALLY IN A POWER 5. AND IT'S INTERESTING. I LOVE THAT UTAH PLAYS BYU AND THE THREE TEAMS THEY PLAY THRICE IS INTERESTING. ARIZONA AND ARIZONA STATE. IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO PLAY ANYBODY ELSE FOUR TIMES, THERE ARE THOSE TWO, AND THEN UCF AND KANSAS. >> Jason: DON'T THEY JUST PUT THE TWO TEAMS THAT ARE THE FARTHEST APART? IN YOU'RE GOING TO BE THAT FAR APART, I HAVE A THEORY ON THIS, BIG 12 KNOWS HOW MUCH WE LOVE DISNEY AND THEY WANT TO GIVE US AS MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO GO TO ORLANDO AS POSSIBLE, OR THAT UCF CAN BRING DISNEY MERCH WITH THEM WHEN THEY COME TO PROVO. >> Jarom: THEY'RE GOING TO BRING CAPE CANAVERAL MERCH AS WELL? >> Jason: WE'RE NOT NASA FANS, WE'RE DISNEY FANS, OKAY? >> Jarom: I WAS HOPING FOR A LITTLE BIT MORE BARELY. >> Jason: I WAS SURPRISED THAT COLIN MILLER WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THAT GROUP OF UTAH AND ARIZONA. >> Jarom: I WAS HOPING FOR A LITTLE MORE COLIN MILLER AND I WOULD LIKE TO PLAY COLIN MILLER A LITTLE BIT MORE. I THINK THAT'S INTERESTING ACROSS THE ROCKY MOUNTAINS. >> Jason: IT COULD BE THE REAL ROCKY MOUNTAIN RIVALRY. IN TEXAS, EVERY YEAR FOR ROAD GAMES. >> Jason: BUT ONLY ONE. I WAS A BIT SURPRISED, BYU, AS SOON AS I TWEETED THIS OUT YESTERDAY, BYU IS PLAYING SMU AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONFERENCE GAMES. ONE CONFERENCE GAME IN THE STATE OF TEXAS? I WAS A BIT SURPRISED AND I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT EVERYBODY WANTED AS MANY GAMES IN TEXAS AS POSSIBLE. >> Jarom: LOOK AT THIS YEAR. >> Jason: BUT YOU WANT TO BE IN THIS CONFERENCE, TEXT SEX AT PLACE. >> Jarom: BUT YOU CAN BALANCE IT OUT. I DON'T WANT TO PLAY 3 GAMES IN TEXAS EVERY YEAR. ONE OR TWO IS FINE. >> Jason: ROAD GAMES IN THE STATE IN ITS HUGE. >> Jarom: THERE ARE ONLY FOUR OF THOSE, AND OVER A 4-YEAR SPAN IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT THIS WAY. THE NUMBER-ONE THING THAT I WANTED WAS UTAH, AND THEN NUMBER TWO, I WANT BYU TO PLAY EVERY TEAM IN THE LEAGUE HOME AND ROAD EVERY FOUR YEARS, SO IF YOU SHOW UP, YEP, I PLAY AT WEST VIRGINIA AND WE HOST AT WEST VIRGINIA. I WANTED THAT FOR EVERYBODY. SO THEY DID THAT. AND THAT WAS MY NUMBER 2 SCHEDULING PRINCIPLE THAT I W WANTED TO APPLY, AND THEY DID IT, WHICH IS REALLY GOOD. BYU HAD A CHANCE TO HOST 7 HOME GAMES IN 2024. BUT CHOOSING TO GO TO WYOMING IN A G5 GAME. AND IT'S KIND OF A BUMMER. THERE ARE PROS AND CONS TO 7 HOME GAMES, HOME COOKING, MORE LIKELY TO WIN AND MORE REVENUE THAT WAY. AND ALSO THE CHALLENGE IS, TIB PRICES ARE MORE, AND I DON'T THINK BYU LIKES HOW PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT STUFF, BUT HEY, THEY'RE IN A POWER 5 CONFERENCE, AND STUFF COSTS MORE, IT IS WHAT IT IS, AND IT'S HARDER FINANCIALLY, BUT BYU HAS TO COMPETE IN THAT SENSE AS WELL. OVERALL, I LIKE IT. IT IS INTERESTING TO SEE THAT IT'S 4 YEARS. I THINK IT'S 4 YEARS BECAUSE I THINK IN 5 YEARS, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE. >> Jason: WE WON'T KNOW IN TWO YEARS. >> Jarom: KYLE WHITTINGHAM SAID 2-5 YEARS COLLEGE FOOTBALL MIGHT BREAKAWAY FROM THE NCAA AND JUST RUN ITSELF. THEY ALMOST ARE NOW. BUT WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DOES EACH LEAGUE STILL FUNCTION IN THE SAME WAY? DOES OUR FOOTBALL TEEM STILL MAINTAIN THE SAME CONFERENCE NAME? BY THE WAY, I WONDER IF THE BEVEL WILL BE CALLED THE BEVEL NEXT YEAR. 16 TEAMS, AND THEY TALKED ABOUT A WE SHALL REBRAND FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT I LIKE THE NEXT FOUR YEARS, AND THAT'S GOOD. YOU DON'T NEED A TV CONTRACT WAY OUT THERE. YOU DON'T NEED TO GET SCHEDULING OUT THERE, BECAUSE WHAT IF YOU ADD ANOTHER TEAM OR TWO, WHO KNOWS? THEN YOU HAVE TO SHUFFLE IT ALL AGAIN, BUT FOR NOW, THIS LOOKS GOOD TO ME. OBVIOUSLY, IT'S A BIG CHALLENGE, AND YOU HAVE THE ROAD THAT ROTATES WITH 9 CONFERENCE GAMES, AND AT SOME POINT DO THEY MOVE TO 10 CONFERENCE GAMES? BUT FOR NOW, IT LOOKS GOOD TO ME. >> Jason: ALL IN ALL, IT'S FINE, AND BECAUSE OF THE REGION THAT WE LIVED IN. AND THE OTHER SCHOOLS THAT ARE SO CLOSE BY, BUT IT DEFINITELY HAS A PAC 12 FEEL TO T IT FEELS LIKE THAT GROUP FEELS LIKE MORE LIKE A PAC 12 BRANCH OF A CONFERENCE AS OPPOSED TO THE BIG 12. >> Jarom: IF IT'S THE SCRANTON BRANCH, BRANCH DUNDER MY LYNN -- >> Jason: HOW IT LOOKS LIKE IN FOUR YEARS, BUT I DID WONDER. IF SO OUT OF THE RIVALRIES, WHAT CHANGES? ARE YOU GROUPED INTO A DIFFERENT SET FOR 3 IN THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? >> ARE YOU SAYING IN TEAMS ARE ADDED? >> Jason: NO STAYING THE SAME, WHAT'S DIF IN FOUR YEARS? IF YOU'RE GOING TO IF YOU'RE DOWNTOWN TO BE IN THE SAME GR GROUP, UTAH AND ARIZONA GROUP? WHAT CHANGES IN FOUR YEARS? IS THIS PRETTY MUCH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE MOVING FORWARD? >> Jarom: I WOULD THINK NOTHING BUT YOUR PREMISE IS GOING TO CHANGE, BUT SOMETHING WILL CHANGE. EITHER NCAA AND COLLEGE FOOTBALL ARE NO LONGER CONNECTED OR THERE'S MORE EXPANSION IN SOME WAY, AND YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT TV CONTRACTS, EVERYONE IS KIND OF LOCKED IN. IF THE ACC IS DISASSEMBLED IN SOME WAY, THAT EFFECTS THINGS, CLEMSON, AND THIS DOMINO EFFECT. AND ACC AND OTHER TEAMS, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? NOW WE'RE D DOWN TO 3 LEAGUES PERHAPS, AND I DON'T KNOW. BUT IT WILL BE INTERESTING TO SEE IF THERE'S A STRAIGHT UP 64 LEAGUE, COLLEGE FOOTBALL COMGLOM RANT THAT IS NOT COLLEGE FOOTBALL. AND WE BARELY SAY NCAA WHEN QUESTION TALK ABOUT COLLEGE FOOTBALL. BUT THEY'RE LOOKING AT EVERYBODY'S WAIVERS AND THE WHOLE THING WITH MICHIGAN AND WHAT NOT. BUT IN INDEPENDENCE, IT WAS LITERALLY YEAR TO YEAR AND WE KNOW. BUT BYU IS SCHEDULING WEBER STATE. WE KNOW THAT WEBER STATE IS 27 AND 30 NOW, AND SMU, 2024 AND 2027. AND BYU IS CANCELING A BUNCH OF GAMES THAT THEY HAD CONTRACTS WITH, BUT THEY PUT IN A CLAUSE IF WE JOIN A POWER 5. BUT THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. WE KNOW THE DATES ON TWO GAMES. THE SEASON OPENER, SOUTHERN ILLINOIS, THE SALUKIES, LET'S GO, IS THAT A DOG? AND IT CAN 7th, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT DAY, AT WYOMING AFTER THAT, AND SMU THE OTHER CONFERENCE AND THEN THERE'S THE CONFERENCE SCHEDULE. WE CERTAINLY THE UTAH THE LAST GAME OF THE SEASONABLE. DO YOU CARE WHERE ANY OF ANOTHER GAMES ARE? AS LONG AS BYU DOESN'T GO TWO GAMES AWAY CONSECUTIVELY? >> Jason: NO, I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. >> Jarom: THIS YEAR YOU WERE COOL WITH HOW IT SHOOK OUT? >> Jason: I DON'T HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT, BUT THE ONLY THING THAT YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE SAY THE GAME AT UCF AFTER HAVING THAT TYPE OF TRAVEL THAT YOU GET EITHER A BYE OR MAYBE YOU'RE REWARDED WITH A COUPLE OF HOME GAMES OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. >> Jarom: A THURSDAY ROAD GAME. BYU PLAYED A THURSDAY GAME AT UCF IN 2014 AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE WORST SCHEDULED GAMES OF ALL TIME. TWO-TIME ZONES, AND BYU LOST IN OT AND THAT WAS A TOUGH ONE, A TOUGH ONE TO SWALLOW. THAT WAS THE WEEK AFTER TAYSOM HILL BROKE HIS LEG AGAINST UTAH STATE. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH GAMES ARE GOING TO BE FRIDAY BEFORE HOME CONFERENCE POTENTIALLY, OR DOES BYU PLAY ON THE CONFERENCE ON THE ROAD? OR DO THEY HAVE TO. IN THE MOUNT WEST, THEY PLAYED AT SAN DIEGO STATE WEDNESDAY NIGHT AND PRIESTHOOD SESSION E ENDED AND JOHN BECK, THE BALL SLIPPED OUT OF HIS HAND LIKE IT WAS BURT, I DON'T REMEMBER, '06? WHO KNOWS IN? BUT BYU IS IN THE BIG 12. AND WHAT STANDS OUT FOR YOU ABOUT THE BIG 12 SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT FOUR SEASONS? WEIGH IN ON X, INSTAGRAM AND FACEBOOK. I LOVE HOW BYU IS ON THE SCHEDULE. I THINK THAT IT'S A GOOD ROTATING SCHEDULE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. I LIKE ARIZONA AND ARIZONA STATE AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE FOUR EVERY YEAR WITH THOSE GUYS, BY THE WAY. BUT ONE THING THAT I FORGOT TO MENTION. BYU WILL NOT HAVE THE SAME KIND OF RIVALRIES OUTSIDE OF UTAH THAT WE WERE HOPING FOR BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT PLAYING CONSISTENTLY ENOUGH. >> Jason: THERE ARE TOO MANY TEAMS TO REALLY BUILD AND PLAY ENOUGH. >> Jarom: IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. THE SAINT MARY'S THING IN BASKETBALL WAS BECAUSE YOU PLAYED THEM EVERY YEAR AND IMAGINE IF YOU DIDN'T PLAY THEM EVERY YEAR? I WAS HOPING WITH BAYLOR AND TCU AND TEXAS TECH AND MAYBE HOUSTON DOWN THE ROAD. NO. UCF3 TIMES DOESN'T MEAN WE WERE GOING TO HAVE A RIVALRY. AT TEVIDA. IS BYU GOING TO START GETTING 7 HOME GAMES AND 5 AWAY? I WANT THIS, BECAUSE IT MAKES YOU WIN MORE. I DON'T KNOW IF BYU IS IN ON THAT. I HAVE ASKED TOM HOLMOE THAT BEFORE. AND HE SAID IT'S POSSIBLE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE A YEAR WHERE WE KNOW THEY'RE GOING TO GO 7 HOME GAMES QUITE YET. WE CAN LOOK IN THE FUTURE. THE NON-KOHN -- YOU HAVE YEARS WHERE YOU COULD HAVE 8. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE P5, G5 AT H HOME, AND NEXT YEAR, BYU IS NOT. , AND EVERY YEAR, YOU HAVE 5 HOME GAMES, PEOPLE DO IT. AND WOULD YOU GET USED TO TOO MUCH HOME? ARE THE TICKET PRICES TOO MANY? ARE PEOPLE GOING TO COMPLAIN TOO MUCH? YOU DON'T COMPLAIN ABOUT WINNING TOO MUCH. >> Jason: BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT. >> Jarom: TO ME IT'S NOT AN ISSUE, IT'S A POSITIVE. >> Jason: I'LL TAKE AS MANY HOME GAMES. 6 AND 0, VAMPIRE COUGS. >> Jason: 8 HOME GAMES. >> Jarom: PLUS 2. YOU'RE RIGHT. 6