in 2009 I actually read an article um about kamla in Essence magazine and they were describing this book she had written uh called smart on crime and I love the strategy she discussed in that book and talked about the fact that we it was a false choice between being tough on crime um and and basically we should be smart on crime um so after that I was talking about her on the campaign Trail because I was running for State's Attorney at the time and two days after I won the election I get a call picked the phone up and it's KLA Harris and she said you know what congratulations just tell me what I can do to help and we have since then been friends she's been a wonderful Mentor she's obviously a tremendous role model and it's just been um really great to to have known her over these last it's been 14 years