I'm sure not all conservatives are as mad as Megan Kelly in fact some of them went to Great Lengths to reassure themselves that Taylor Swift's opinions just don't matter we admire Taylor Swift's music but I don't think most Americans whether they like her music or fans of hers or not are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is fundamentally disconnected from the interests uh and and and the problems of most Americans yeah yeah can you imagine people relating to a celebrity billion there someone who's been on Time magazine or hosted SNL or been in a Kanye West music video I can't imagine anybody being impressed with that I'm JD Vance and I have no sense of irony [Applause]