Published: Sep 03, 2024
Duration: 00:07:04
Category: People & Blogs
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This week on our taxpayer-funded ABC’s Q+A
program, they were in fine form dismissing people’s legitimate concerns. The two panellists
we’ll be focusing on in this video are Nyadol Nyuon, a lawyer and human rights advocate, who was
a refugee born in Ethiopia, and Maria Thattil, an author and advocate, whose parents migrated from
India. According to her ABC bio, she was only the 3rd woman of colour to represent Australia in the
Miss Universe Pageant. Identity is everything over at our ABC. I wonder what number you have to get
to before they stop referring to you in this way. This audience member, Janak Gorana, asked a
really good question, but got a pretty crappy answer. He asked, “As an immigrant who’s spent
60% of my life in Australia, built a family, owned a home, and contributed to society, I’m
deeply concerned about the far-left shift in this country. With public schools pushing a ‘woke
mindset’, a surge in immigration, wokeness in climate policies with the skyrocketing prices, how
long before Australia becomes unrecognisable from the one that attracted immigrants like me for its
fairness and opportunities based on merit alone?” Ms Thattil replied (in summary) “Whenever we talk
about woke agendas and the far-left movement, we are effectively talking about people
who advocate for the LGBTQIA+ community, who advocate for gender diversity, who advocate
for these marginalised communities. We hide behind the word ‘woke’ when what we’re talking
about is speaking up for communities who need to have their human rights, dignities and
freedoms respected. I’m a woman of colour, I’m a queer woman of colour, and I’m also somebody
who’s got two degrees. When we talk about merit… I assume you’re talking maybe about diversity quotas
or affirmative action and things like that. I can tell you why they exist. They exist plain and
simply because underrepresented groups have faced systemic barriers and disadvantages when
it comes to them accessing opportunities. We need these progressive movements to progress people who
have started on the back foot and face significant inequity so that they can play catch-up, because
we all deserve to be seen and represented.” So basically her point is that
we need quotas and affirmative action to level the playing field, so to speak. At this point, Mr Gorana retorted
with another great reply saying, “I haven’t really faced any disadvantage.
I would very much like to think that what I’m doing is because I’m good at
what I’m doing. I wouldn’t take pride in thinking that I was just given
something. I just wouldn’t want that.” Ms Nyuon then replied. “I’m going
to start by saying I am woke.”, at which point Ms Thattil says, “Me too, girl!
Me too!”. Ms Nyuon continued, “But even having said that I’m woke, I do accept that there are
some problems with wokeness, just as there are any problems with any social movement. There are
excesses. It doesn’t mean that if you’re woke, you’re perfect. So I accept that criticism
of woke. Like any social movement, it has its problems. However, I also didn’t come to
Australia on a merit basis. I came as a refugee. Despite the fact that I came to this country as
a refugee, I went to school, I did a law degree, I did a BA, I did practice, I worked hard, yet
every time I walk in the room, people think that I’m a diversity thing… That’s also destructive,
because people like myself who have also really worked hard, get trashed, get undermined, get
diminished because we’re women and because we look like this. Because somebody thinks that we don’t
deserve what we’ve done. That, too, is a problem.” So basically her point is that it’s insulting that
people see her as a diversity hire, or whatever, when actually she worked really hard to get where
she is, which brings us to the main contradiction of wokeness that they’ve perfectly demonstrated,
perhaps inadvertently. On the one hand, Ms Thattil concludes that we need quotas and affirmative
action to help marginalised groups overcome systemic barriers and disadvantages, while on
the other hand, Ms Nyuon concludes that being treated like a diversity hire is insulting! Well,
I’m sorry ladies, if you have one, you have the other! If you wish to have diversity targets in
society, you’re guaranteed that people will treat all minority groups as diversity hires, because
there’s no way we can know whether you earnt the position through your hard work, or whether
you’re just there to meet some predefined targets. The solution is simple, get rid of diversity
targets. They don’t benefit anybody. If you want to get a good job, work hard like both these
ladies did, as well as the audience member. Don’t play the victim and pretend that society is
to blame. You’re in control of your life. Mr Gorana had one final comment, another great
point. He said, “When I look at the laws, they are all sorted. What are we even
talking about? The laws are sorted.”, with the ladies replying, “I don’t understand.”,
“But is it that?”. He continued, “Tell me, which legislation still discriminates or disadvantages
or whatever it is? I think it’s all sorted.” “Yeah, I mean, that’s one way of looking at it.”
Ms Nyuon then tried to explain that legislation is often based on assumptions and personal
preferences than what is actually helpful or required. She gives the example, “Until
I had kids, I did not realise how hard it is that we’ve built everywhere for people who
can walk, because I didn’t have a pram.” Umm, get a pram! “The assumptions that
we make when we pass legislation, the assumptions we make when we build societies
are built from our own preferences. It doesn’t mean people are evil. It just means that sometimes
we think equality looks a particular way. But, actually, in its practice and its delivery, we
discover that other people might need more.” Anyway, I don’t really think they addressed
this guy’s question. He said he hasn’t experienced disadvantage as an immigrant,
and they don’t seem to want to accept that. I think they like people feeling like they
are hard done by because of their identity, and they ain’t going to let you
try to prove them otherwise.