and I think we can get there I think the debate on September 10th is going to be so consequential and it's going to have audience that we can't believe because what does America love a train wreck and they had one from June the 27th and they want another train R I agree on that do you guys have that debate it's ABC debate ABC debate if it happens I still think it's an open question of really Happ Trump's go go he's got to you think that Trump is going to pull out I think Trump is nervous about it I think Trump I I talked lot of sources in his world I think he has really struggled with it it's not just a a narrative or or a talking point from Democrats he really has struggled with with how to to combat her and I think going into that debate he he does not really want to do it I think it's difficult if not impossible for him to pull out because his campaign manager had cards printed that said anywhere anytime any place for for President Biden and it would look weak but I don't think he's looking forward to it at this point no