>> Harris: WE BEGIN WITH THIS FOX NEWS ALERT. VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS' PAST IS HAUNTING HER NOW. SHE PUSHED TO ELIMINATE PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE AND FORCED 150 MILLION PEOPLE ONTO A GOVERNMENT PLAN, AMERICANS ARE WAITING TO HEAR EXACTLY WHAT HER CURRENT PLAN WILL BE FOR THEIR HEALTH CARE. I AM HARRIS FAULKNER. YOU ARE IN "THE FAULKNER FOCUS." THIS IS A BIG ISSUE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE PARTICULARLY THOSE WHO ARE RETIRED AND ON A BUDGET. YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT TO YOU KEEP YOUR DR.. THE CAMPAIGN TOTALLY FLIP-FLOPPING ON HER 2019 POSITION WHEN SHE WAS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT THE FIRST TIME AND DID NOT GET A SINGLE DELEGATE ON HER SIDE OF THE AISLE. A SENIOR OFFICIAL IS TELLING FOX NEWS THAT TO THE VP "WILL NOT PUSH SINGLE PAYER OR MEDICAID FOR ALL. HERE'S WHAT SHE TOLD OUR PETER DOOCY IN 2019. >> HOW IMPORTANT IS IT TO YOUR HEALTH CARE PLAN TO GET RID OF PRIVATE INSURANCE COMPANIES? BECAUSE THERE IS SOME CONFUSION ABOUT THAT? >> SO I'M GLAD YOU ASKED. SO THE BOTTOM LINE IN THE MOST IMPORTANT IS THAT EVERYONE HAS ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. THAT IS THE GOAL, THAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR ME SUPPORTING THE POLICY OF MEDICARE FOR ALL. IF CONGRESS VOTES IN A WAY THAT REFLECTS THE VALUES AND THE DESIRES OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, THEN CONGRESS WOULD VOTE FOR A POLICY THAT GIVES EVERYONE ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. >> Harris: SO THAT WAS JUST A WHOLE WAY WHERE SHE HAS BEEN ON THE RECORD PLENTY OF TIMES TALKING ABOUT HER OPEN SUPPORT FOR THAT FAR LEFT POLICY DEALING WITH HEALTH CARE. >> ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH CARE SHOULD NOT BE A PRIVILEGE. IT SHOULD BE A RIGHT TO. >> THE IDEA IS THAT EVERYONE GETS ACCESS TO MEDICAL CARE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GOING THROUGH AN INSURANCE COMPANY. LET'S ELIMINATE THAT. >> WHO WOULD ABOLISH THEIR PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE IN FAVOR OF A GOVERNMENT PLAN? ALL RIGHT. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> Harris: AMERICA HAS ALREADY DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT THAT. EVEN DEMOCRATS DECIDED THEY DID NOT WANT THAT OR HER POLICY ON HEALTH CARE. AGAIN, SHE DID NOT GET A SINGLE DELEGATE WHEN RUNNING AGAINST THE PACK OF THEM ON STAGE RIGHT THERE IN THE PRIMARY. THE FIRST TIME SHE RAN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. SHE BACKTRACKED ON WHAT SHE SAID THEN BY SAYING SHE MISUNDERSTOOD THE QUESTION. EVERYONE ELSE DID THEM PUT THEIR HANDS IN THE AIR. WELL, THE FEW WHO FELT LIKE THEY AGREED WITH HER. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS NOT BUYING ANY OF IT. HE POSTED "KAMALA HARRIS BACKS ABOLISHING PRIVATE INSURANCE" TAMMY BRUCE TOLD ME YESTERDAY WITH A LOT OF PASSION WHAT SHE SEES. >> YOU WILL BE PAYING FOR IT WITH TAXES. IT'S NOT FROM THE MONEY TREE IN WASHINGTON, AND GOOD LUCK GETTING AN APPOINTMENT, BUT THEN THERE IS THE QUALITY OF CARE ISSUE. JUST LOOK AT WHERE THIS HAS BEEN APPLIED AROUND THE WORLD. THIS IS NOT A NEW IDEA. IT HAS COLLAPSED AROUND THE WORLD. LOOK AT ENGLAND, LOOK AT CANADA. IT'S A PROBLEM AND IT DOES NOT WORK. BUT IF YOU WANT GOVERNMENT WITH ALL POWER, YOU GIVE THEM THE POWER OF YOUR HEALTH CARE. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS. IT FAILS AND THEY KNOW IT, BUT THEY THINK, WE ARE JUST PONDS. >> Harris: DR. MARTY MAKARY, PROFESSOR OF MEDICINE AT JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY NOW. IF WE GIVE THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THE POWER OF OUR HEALTH CARE, WHAT WILL THAT LOOK LIKE? >> I THINK THERE IS AN APPEAL TO CUTTING THE MIDDLEMAN AWAY FROM THE SYSTEM. THE PROBLEM IS EVERY COUNTRY THAT HAS MOVED TO GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE HAS HAD TO MAKE DRACONIAN CUTS, FIVE OR TEN YEARS DOWN THE ROAD ACROSS THE BELT CUTS AND THAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT. MEDICARE IS CURRENTLY RUNNING ON FUMES AND DOCTORS ARE GETTING PAID LESS AND LESS EVERY YEAR, ADJUSTED FOR INFLATION WITH NO CHANGE OR INCREASE IN PAYMENTS AND MEDICARE IS GETTING FLEECED. THERE IS A LOT OF WASTE IN THE SYSTEM AND A RECENT ANALYSIS THAT CAME OUT THIS WEEK BY PARAGON FOUND THAT THE COST OF MEDICARE FOR ALL IS $44 TRILLION OVER THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. >> Harris: I SAW THAT, AND NONE OF WHAT YOU ARE SAYING PARTICULARLY WILL CHANGE FROM OTHER MEDICAL EXPERTS I'M TALKING TO YOU. I MEAN, PUTTING IT IN THE HANDS OF THE SAME GOVERNMENT THAT HAS RUN THINGS LESS THAN IDEALLY IF YOU WANT TO SEE IT THAT WAY. I'M BEING GENEROUS. BUT DO YOU REALLY WANT THAT KIND OF TOP-DOWN APPROACH AND IT'S GOING TO COST $44 TRILLION? DO YOU THINK THAT THE QUALITY WILL IMPROVE? >> YOU WILL HEAR A LOT OF DIFFERENT OPINIONS ON THIS AND I WILL CREDIT KAMALA HARRIS BY BACKING OFF THE MEDICARE FOR ALL POSITION. SHE PROBABLY RECOGNIZES IT'S NOT POLITICALLY FEASIBLE. >> Harris: WHILE SHE IS RUNNING SHE IS GOING TO DO THAT. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SHE WILL DO IF SHE GETS IN OFFICE. >> SHE IS CLEARLY ESPOUSE THE VALUE OF MEDICARE FOR ALL, NOT JUST ONCE BUT ON MANY OCCASIONS. I WILL TELL PEOPLE IF SHE IS ELECTED PRESIDENT THERE MAY BE MANY VERSIONS OF MEDICARE FOR ALL, COULD BE LOWERING THE AGE DOWN TO 60 OR 50, COULD BE A MEDICARE OPTION. SO HEARING BASICALLY HER PHILOSOPHY ON GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE AND GOVERNMENT RUN INSURANCE. >> Harris: WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR YOU AS A DOCTOR? >> WELL, MEDICARE IS THE LOWEST REIMBURSED RATES IN HOSPITALS THAT GET MEDICARE PAYMENTS OFTEN ARGUED THAT THEY CAN'T STAY OPEN WITH THE MEDICARE PAYMENTS BECAUSE EACH YEAR THEY GET ACROSS-THE-BOARD CUTS. SO WE WILL PROBABLY SEE A RASH OF HOSPITAL CLOSURES. WE WOULD SEE PEOPLE LEAVING THE PROFESSION. FAST FORWARD 20 YEARS AND PROBABLY WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE U.K. RIGHT NOW. >> Harris: THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF PLASTIC SURGEONS IS THE FIRST MAJOR AMERICAN MEDICAL GROUP TO BREAK WITH THEIR ESTABLISHMENTS CONSENSUS THAT GENDER SURGERY IS OKAY FOR HER CHILDREN. IN A NEW REPORT, ON THE GROUP QUESTION THE LONG-TERM EFFECTS OF CHILD GENDER SURGERIES AND SAID THE EXISTING EVIDENCE SUPPORTS OUTCOMES AND IS LOW QUALITY AND CERTAINTY. SO IN OTHER WORDS, CAN YOU SAY WHAT IT WILL BE LIKE AFTER THAT SURGERY NOT WITH A WHOLE LOT OF CERTAINTY? HALF OF ALL U.S. STATES ALSO DISAGREE WITH THE MEDICAL ESTABLISHMENT, SO FAR 29 STATES HAVE LAWS ON THE BOOKS TO LIMIT OR BAN CHILDREN'S ACCESS TO BLOCKERS HORMONES AND GENDER SURGERY. AND IT'S NOT JUST THEIR ACCESS, IT'S THE PARENTS WHEN THEY ARE MAKING THE DECISION. SOME JURISDICTIONS ARE DECIDING THAT PARENTAL GUIDANCE AND ALLOWANCE IS NECESSARY FOR CHILDREN TO GET SURGERIES. THAT'S A DIFFERENT POLITICAL ISSUE. WHAT HAPPENS ON THE BACK END WHEN THEY GET THE SURGERIES? >> WELL, AS THEY SIT IN THE STATEMENT THEY ARE SO LOW QUALITY AND CERTAINTY OF THE EVIDENCE. AND A DOGMA OUT THERE THAT HAS BEEN PROPAGATED THAT IT REDUCES THE SUICIDE RISK AND THAT IS UNFAIRLY PUT IN FRONT OF PARENTS WHEN THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THAT. THAT'S AN OPINION. TO THE AMERICAN SOCIETY OF PLASTIC SURGERY WHICH IS A VERY LARGE AND RESPECTED BODY OF PLASTIC SURGEONS. TO THE LARGEST IN THE COUNTRY IS MAKING A VERY HONEST STATEMENT HERE TAKING A POSITION CONSISTENT WITH A MAJORITY POSITION IN EUROPE AND IN THE U.K. WHERE PUBERTY BLOCKERS HAVE BEEN BANNED. SWEDEN AND DENMARK ARE NOW GOING BACK AND ACKNOWLEDGING THAT PERHAPS NONE OF THIS SHOULD BE DONE IN MINORS. SO IT'S A VERY BOLD POSITION AND I THINK THEY WILL GET A LOT OF FLAK FOR IT, BUT THESE ARE THE DOCTORS WHO ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE PROCEDURES AND THEY ARE HONESTLY SAYING WE DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE. >> Harris: WITH THIS ISSUE IN THE PREVIOUS ONE ABOUT HEALTH CARE FOR ALL UNDER A MEDICARE SITUATION WHERE WHATEVER PROVISION THEY WOULD SEE THAT THEY COULD DO IT UNDER ON THE LEFT, YOU CAN'T GET AWAY FROM POINTING TO PARTICULARLY AND YOU SAID EUROPE AND OTHER PLACES THAT HAVE TRIED MEDICAL THINGS. AND WITH THIS GENDER ISSUE, WE SEEM TO FROM WHAT YOU SAID, WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE NATIONS WHO ARE TAKING THOSE POSITIONS AND KIND OF FOLLOWING IN THEIR FOOTSTEPS. WHY IS THAT HAPPENING? >> WE DON'T HAVE CIVIL DISCOURSE IN THE UNITED STATES AROUND TRANSGENDER AND GENDER DYSPHORIA DIAGNOSES, THEY RUN DOCTORS OUT OF TOWN, UNIVERSITIES FIRE PHYSICIANS LIKE THE ASSOCIATE DEAN OF RESEARCH AT MAYO CLINIC WHO WAS FIRED FOR SAYING THAT WOMEN WHO ARE ON TESTOSTERONE MAY BE UNFAIRLY COMPETING IN SPORTS. WE HAVE A McCARTHYISM AROUND THIS TOPIC AND THE REALITY IS THAT IT IS A NUANCED TOPIC AND THERE ARE PEOPLE WITH A BIOLOGICAL BASIS FOR TRANSGENDER PIT DOES NOT MEAN THEY NEED SURGERY IS A MINOR. BUT THE IDEA THAT YOU CAN JUST CHOOSE YOUR GENDER IS A TOPIC THAT IS PUT OUT THERE AS SCIENTIFICALLY BOUND WITH SUCH ABSOLUTISM WHEN IT'S REALLY AN OPINION. >> Harris: I WANT TO HIT YOU WITH ONE LAST ONE, ON THE ISSUE, BECAUSE IT HAS COME UP AT THE OLYMPICS AND EVERYWHERE. WHERE MEDICALLY AND SCIENTIFICALLY ARE YOU SEEING ANY CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE PRODUCTIVE ABOUT BIOLOGICAL MEN IDENTIFYING AS WOMEN IN WOMEN'S SPORTS? >> THERE IS A CONVERSATION AROUND A REQUIREMENT FOR WOMEN TO HAVE AN XX GENOTYPE AND THAT CAN BE DONE WITH HE SPIT SAMPLE OR A CHEEK SWAB, AND THAT IS EMERGING AS A SIMPLE AND FEASIBLE WAY TO ENSURE THAT WOMEN'S SPORTS ARE RESERVED FOR WOMEN. >> Harris: I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE OF BOXERS THAT THEIR JOURNEY BROUGHT UP THAT ISSUE. WE DON'T HAVE ANY SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF WHAT IS GOING ON THERE, BECAUSE THE TESTING HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED PUBLICLY ON EITHER OF THOSE ATHLETES. BUT AT THIS POINT WE WERE TOLD THAT BY ALL ACCOUNTS, THEY ARE WOMEN. SO WE WILL WAIT TO SEE WHAT FUTURE EVIDENCE BRINGS ABOUT, BUT THEY RAISE THE ISSUE WITH THE JOURNEY AS THEY WERE ON AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO THAT QUESTION. AND YOU HAVE ALL OF THE CHANGES IN TITLE IX AND SO