Watch Live: Preliminary magnitude-4.4 earthquake centered in Highland Park area shakes Southern Cali

Robert what can you tell us um about this this earthquake downgraded now to a 4.4 magnitude yes and yes the event was just adjusted to magnitude 4.4 we know that the event was fil felt throughout the Los Angeles region into Northern W or Northern Orange County and the shaket earthquake early warning system was activated for this event uh we know that alert delivery was happened throughout Southern California we're still trying to get an assessment of the the amount of alerting that went on and and potentially if there was any damage from this event but still early on in in the process but uh fully aware of what's going on we want everybody to stay safe drop cover and hold on if we feel shaking and just want to make sure that everybody's feeling okay out there Robert if you can tell us um after shocks we know that we will experience those aftershocks um have we felt any as of yet or have there been any that have registered yes so um we have the mag the magnitude 4.4 but we have not registered any aftershocks yet for this event there is the possibility that there will be aftershocks from this uh but we don't see anything that has come up on the board yet okay um have you heard anything about damage and could we expect to see any type of damage with this magnitude a 4.4 yeah so generally what people probably felt in most places as something akin to heavy truck passing by their house sort of that those vibrations maybe a little bit more here in Pasad Dino we felt a little bit more than that but we've gotten reports of people having items thrown off of shelves and and U Windows rattling but nothing extensive at this point but again we're still waiting for reports to come in you know Robert this one did feel a little different than say the one that we experienced last week this one felt much stronger you know just a stronger jolt yes yes definitely and so what was very different is uh the earthquake last last Tuesday night the magnitude 5.2 out in Lamont Southwest of Bakersfield was was quite a distance away from Los Angeles and so I think of throwing a pebble in a pond and the seismic waves leaving the earthquake um would had a chance to sort of dissipate dissipate a little bit as they move outward from the event so what we felt here was quite a bit different most people that felt this earthquake including me here in Pasadena were right basically right under right above the earthquake so basically what happened is that most of us probably felt all of the seismic waves from the earthquake arriving at once everything was just just happened all at the same time so it felt like a real jostling sort of sense um and that's typical because um what happened is in the case of the earthquake last week there's some time for the seismic waves to sort of separate themselves so you feel some very distinct ground Motion in this case it seemed like a very sort of chaotic jumble that that most people felt for this event Robert do we know which fault line this was on that's a really good question and we're looking into it uh it's there are a number of faults in the region uh uh nearby of course there's the Raymond fault which runs through Pasadena and through Arcadia and up into Highland Park and those areas so um we're still looking into it okay this is Conan from uh downstairs actually upstairs from the studio uh can we speak a little bit about the Raymond fall there was from from what I I remember there was a 1988 earthquake about this magnet well a little more 4.9 uh and the Raymond fault it was determined it uh it's capable of a much larger earthquake um perhaps over a six although that happens with with you know it's extremely rare uh the um is that would you say that that's a that's a prime candidate for what we're looking at today it could possibly be that but again we're waiting to to Really uh finalize the location of the event and and it just takes a little time to figure this out but it's a great candidate for today's earthquake absolutely right and the the Aftershock sequence from what we've seen thus far uh it's pretty standard yeah well so I I we only at this point let's see what we have in far as aftershocks go I don't see anything of any significance as far as aftershocks go from this event I just see the single event the magnitude 4.4 which was originally a 4.7 but was adjusted to 4.4 just a few minutes ago um there might have been smaller events that I'm just not seeing but I'm not seeing anything above 2. or above 2.5 that have hap that has happened since the initial event and could you explain one more time for the for the viewers you're um whether you feel this earthquake or not not uh is based largely in the outer area and all the way up you know down to Long Beach and up to Ventura depends on where you live it depends on on whether you're you're in the valley or not that's right yes one of the factors of course that has to do with what you feel during an earthquake is the distance from the epicenter and so many people were close to this and and felt considerable amount of shaking um but one of the things of course that that also that is involved with what people feel is the fact that you're on these deep sediment fil basins which are many miles deep uh in Los Angeles and they could also amplify the shaking but the really dominating thing here is that there were a lot of people really close to where this earthquake occurred so they probably felt a lot of shaking all at once and shaking that was going in all different directions uh uh terrific and uh so again there's a um you know there's a calculus to this uh this is the main Quake the potential that this is a pre-shock to a larger earthquake drops quickly but is still a possibility absolutely yes and there there aren't Aftershock forecasts done for earthquakes this small but generally the the statistic that's shared is that there's about a 5% chance over the course of about a week that what there would be an earthquake that would exceed this particular event uh so um that's basically how it works get uh earthquakes uh just um we are going to go to a a press conference uh Caltech is hosting a a presser right now and I believe this is a virtual conference let's listen in uh that is actually not true that's a myth um uh that U we need to have many many many small ones uh the difference between uh a small one and a larger one is logarithmic so we have a logarithmic scale so between each magnitude level there's 30 times the difference in energy so if we have a magnitude six we need 30 of those to get to a magnitude 7even essentially to put 30 together uh so the difference is so extreme that uh there's it just doesn't add up the big ones are just so much bigger um and so there's no way to to alleviate uh kind of a bigger one with lots of smaller ones uh Ron ly from the LA Times says uh just is asking again to confirm What fault it was on uh right now there's a 45% probability that was on the lower elisian park fault um but um there's a number of different faults in the area and it's not clear what it which one it is for certain uh this is still early and this is the automatic system that determined it it wasn't um uh it hasn't yet been looked at by a scientist uh to go back and verify but we might not ever know exactly which one it's on just because there are so many in the area uh but so far that's it looks like there's a 45% probability of that particular fault uh we have Lucy join Jo so excuse me L I can't speak Lucy Jones is joining us as well um uh just uh started uh answering some questions Lucy about the earthquake I I see there's a question about uh whether other Quakes have happened on this fault I what we need to understand is this area has a network of berri defaults so it's not something that shows up on the surface the same network was involved in the 1987 Whittier Narrows Quake but exactly whether it's the same strand because it's complicated in at depth we'll we'll never be able to to say but it is the same system as uh the Whittier Narrows uh and no this is not the Raymond fault the Raymond fault is a close to Vertical fault that can be mapped it runs through San Marino High School it runs through Raymond Hill the allean park thrust is part of the buried system that uh is go comes in very shallowly I mean the Raymond fault would be like this this is more like this very shallow it pushes up the hills of like the penty hills and alian park that's why it's got the name of the lower allean Park thrust um but when we've tried to image them which is not easy right we have to do you know use earthquakes and a lot of uh computation to try and see what the structures are in there um we see a web we don't see one clear system we see several different strands and we think that they all go at different times and we need to remember this is only a four and a half and therefore associating it with a particular fault is always going to be problematic and Alan they want to confirm the um or the magnitude yeah so the initial system the automatic system came out with a 4.6 but after review uh from one of our analysts uh it's actually a magnitude 4.4 so the automatic system doesn't work as with as much data it tries to get out the the value as quickly as possible and um it has to pick the exact arrival time and it might be slightly off and so humans still come in uh to to verify and so that's why there's a slight difference in this case between between uh the first value that came out and then um what we find at the end Ron is asking me to reiterate exactly what we know about the fault systems in this region so uh because of the um uh the Wittier Narrows earthquake happened in this region on a shallowly dipping fault it we had just been really starting to analyze the buried faults around La at the time uh a lot of follow-up work mostly by Al hawen who um was just recently retired from the network um showed that there are there was a band if you look at the small earthquakes we could see a band of thrust fating and then when we went in and did Imaging we could see that there's sort of a stacked set of thrust Falls and so the Southern California fault model has several different faults within this area um you they're you know we can't map them they're not something that we can see they're all buried none of them come to the surface and instead on top of these faults we're deforming the ground and we have our series of Hills that run from the pente hills up through allean Park and and sort of merging into the Santa Monica Mountains um and it's had various names over the years the pente hills thrust the leion park thrust um those names are now used to differentiate between different parts of the this system and our automatic locations say well some probability that it's on one or on the other it's clearly within this system do we have a focal mechanism that shows thrust falting um Alan yes yeah we do it does thrust fault you're right right so it's looking like the um uh uh fault that produced the Whittier nrow earthquake um and as I said you know it's a complicated system that doesn't match up with the surface um but this earthquake is clearly within that group there have been others over the past the Whittier nrow earthquakes 1989 we had a pair of um uh uh four and a halfs that were also in the system they were just a like a half hour apart and um uh there have been plenty of small ones over the years that are also within this and Elizabeth Cochran with the US Geological Survey is joining us now so I was also asked to provide an update in Spanish um I can go ahead and do that if uh there was nothing else about that specifically yeah please do let follow up the point being we can't tell a difference between the ban park fault and the penty hills fault at this point and whether or not it's it's going within that go ahead to the Spanish Alan sure okay um Dr Alan Husker we've been listening to a Caltech virtual press conference you were just hearing also from Dr Lucy Jones and again reiterating the fact that uh they're still unclear about which fault this was under there are many in the area we're going to check back in uh with our meteorologists David and Stephanie what are you guys seeing now so um so right now so again if at first a preliminary 4.7 but as they get more data they it's right now a 4.4 and as we check out the earthquake magnitude and what exactly that means this is considered to be a light Quake this is an event like this uh we we feel that shaking a lot of us again we felt it especially for those closer to the epicenter and so uh you may have felt that shaking of indoor items also rattling noises as well in terms of damage significant damage is very unlikely with this in California we get about 17 of these uh per year and I want to go over here the uh let's go over do we have the uh do you feel it map um uh yes hopefully the the control room could could if you could just it's in weather one if you don't mind just taking that one so we have the did you f it map and we've already seen uh some reports lots of reports out in the area here so as more people submit their reports to USGS of course the map will continue to fill up now right now we have about 39 close to 4,000 reports and again we will continue to to see this map fill up here and for those closer to the epicenter uh you see a little bit it's hard to tell but we have some yellow so those are the areas that feel felt a little bit more of that shaking and um David we were talking about this uh last week I believe it was last week we had the Bakers field the uh the earthquake right near Bakers field some of us got the mic shape alert I I actually I I didn't get the alert but you did but this time around I actually got a notification by from the mic Shake Gap yeah so we we both got the notification uh for us it arrived essentially after the earthquake it already happened because of our proximity uh here at Universal City to the epicenter and so the way that this this app works is it takes essentially the initial waves of the earthquake runs it through some computer processing and then essentially will issue an alert out to you with a little bit of a countdown essentially or at least gives you a little bit of advanced notification you will only get this before getting earthquake shaking if you are far enough from the epicenter if you happen to be right essentially right by it or within I would say a couple of Miles generally you'll get the shaking before the alert comes out and this has to do with the way that the earthquake waves move so you have both the p-wave which is the primary wave the s-wave the secondary wave the P wve moves faster that's the first thing that comes out of essentially where the earthquake is happening we'll feel that first it's kind of a compression wave and then the secondary wave the swave that's where you get that rolling sensation now in the case of a lot of us especially if you were in Downtown LA if you're in the Pasadena area the Highland Park are Annabelle I'll send it back over to youel that uh and all of those changes that are coming in but we do want to get now to uh Lisa derderian with uh the Pio for Pasadena Lisa can you hear me yes can you hear me okay Lisa can you hear me yes can you hear me all right yes hi Lisa we're getting word that um there was a person that was stuck in the elevator in City Hall yeah we have our fire Crews here uh trying to assess that in addition we had a water pipe that burst in front of City Hall so our employees did what they should and per protocol they've evacuated across the street to open space here and we have a fire Personnel on scene trying to address both issues okay and we see news Chopper 4 over city hall right now in Pasadena um do we know how that person is or how those people are I'm sure they're fine just uh due to the shaking um I don't know if that's a cause but uh we you know our fire Personnel will I'm sure quickly get them out of the elevator it is a historic building um hence possibly the reason why we had a broken water pipe too but uh the Quake was felt strong in Pasadena here first day of school for um a lot of students here and we're hoping that you know the teachers and the school Personnel are talking to them about what to do should we have aftershocks and um additional Quakes Lisa can you tell me as far as and and yes so many kids are back in school today a big day for many families um and also now the concern right of of those aftershocks that could that could potentially be felt um as far as City Hall goes has the building been evacuated at all are there still people inside what do we know uh well the fire alarm went off as a result of the water pipe that burst more than likely so our Personnel for protocol uh several hundred of them did evacuate across the street from City Hall into open space here and we'll wait till we get the all clear from the fire department to be able to go back into the building uh several of our other facilities after the shaking uh did have their personnel evacuate outside again is a precaution and uh as we always say it's a reminder that we need to be prepared I mean this is a different fault as we know from the Quakes that we felt in the last few weeks um this is in South pass waiting to get an update on uh exact magnitude and and where it was centered in South pass which fault line but uh you know very close to home here and felt very strong I was at a restaurant with several hundred people and literally everybody just stopped once to shaking uh started kind of looked each other and a few people got underneath the table yeah you know and and that's and that that's really what it is right um so while we may not be seeing a whole lot of damage we do know that this was definitely a wakeup call for so many people who live in this particular area and who may not be uh ready to go with an earthquake hit so again this is the second one in a week that we're feeling the first one happened last Tuesday and that was a 5.2 uh closer to the Bakersfield area Kern County but nevertheless we felt it and now we're feeling one that's a little bit stronger closer to our area um and that's because it's closer to us and that's why we feel that it was Stronger um but we see is that what's going on right there we're seeing this is this water here that we're seeing on this building Lisa that's the pipe that's leaking and that's been going for since the uh shaking started so that's where our fire truck and engine are on scene and they'll try to get that turned off okay has has a fire department said how long this could potentially you take no and some of that could be residual water that's still in the pipes so as a precaution not knowing uh you know what the interior looks like and until we can get a better assessment of any the entire structure of City Hall uh we'll keep our employees outside as a be on the safe side okay all right um and but everybody else in the building seems to be okay yeah they're all across the street in shade uh lunch hour so hopefully some of them are are going and um and be able to enjoy their lunch come back and be able to get back into their workplaces but again uh this is a different fault line than we've seen the last few weeks we got to be cautious uh there will be aftershocks more than likely and people need to be prepared this it's not just the initial Shaker all right all right Lisa we appreciate your time we will be checking in with you throughout um our coverage here Lisa Lisa thank you very much all right and joining me here at the is Conan and Conan we were just hearing that you know the the fault line is still uncertain we still don't know which fault line this was on um because there are so many in this area but now we're seeing some of that damage uh right and so keep in mind that the uh at 4.4 with the complexity of the uh structures is what seismologists refer to the fault lines they may never uh plot this onto a particular fault uh it was it was interesting that Dr Lucy Jones formerly of the US Geological Survey said it was not on the Raymond fault which is of interest because the Raymond fault is capable of a much larger earthquake than this uh they believe that it was capable of at least a 6.0 magnitude earthquake and that the last time one had been felt there uh probably about a thousand years ago in geologic time uh so uh so that's a consequence uh it should be pointed out that some of the some of the obvious places that we go for views of the city the Huntington Library for example uh and that's that beautiful view that you have from there that's all because of the Raymond fault that's all part of it that's not the fault and people should also we should also appreciate that there are so many faults crisscrossing below our feet uh many of them have not been uh have not been named uh we're still in the process of finding them uh and it's uh it it it's one of the reasons why much of the worry prior to the Northridge fault uh was towards What would happen in the along the great San Andreas fault which is a capable of a magnitude nine it's goes from of course uh from the Mexican border all the way through the Bay Area uh and then we realized that faults that were much smaller but closer to the metropolitan area of Los Angeles uh were probably just if if not more important to keep a watch on because of the potential for damage there based simply on their proximity to such a large metropolitan area and that's what happened with Northridge um I'm it's a little concerning there's any kind of damage in a 4.4 I must say though because we should be this the infrastructure should be built to withstand withstand this kind of earthquake right but um and one thing that Lisa did point out was that you know we're talking about an older building here right and so we will be seeing some of these um I guess in comparison to what we could see it's com it's fairly uh minor uh we did have that water main break and then of course you know that person's stuck in an elevator so yes very concerning nevertheless so this is p it in City Hall yes yeah um this building has been retrofitted uh and uh and but again to your point it's older and when you have unreinforced brick masonry buildings that are that are been retrofitted what that means and you can see if you ever if you ever see a brick siding on a side you're walking a sidewalk there's a brick building you can look up you can see bolts that actually stick out from that uh from the surface of the brick surface of the wall that demonstrates that it's been retrofitted but the standard from what I understand in retrofitting those kind of buildings is that the the roof will not come down it doesn't mean that the sides won't come down uh and so you will still have pictures of bricks falling off the side and if you're walking on the sidewalk you could get hurt seriously uh but the top of the building won't kill you and that's uh that's that's the standard for unreinforced Brick masonry buildings that have been retrofitted throughout Southern California this is more than a urm this building but it is older and although it has been retrofitted that doesn't necessarily mean there wouldn't be some damage if you did have something that close to the epicenter uh which is what we're seeing with this uh with this water leak all right okay uh we're going to go to uh to race Stevens of view oh Tracy all right sorry about that Tracy you are in Burbank tell us did you feel it yeah Annabelle we were actually driving over here we stopped we pulled over we're at the Burbank in Whole Foods and we've been talking to people who work here we've been talking to people who were shopping in here they said they felt the entire building Shake we uh stopped Eric p trius uh thank you so much you were shopping for your groceries inside of Whole Foods tell me what feel like shopping having a little salad um this one hit like a ton of bricks it was just like wham bam the the one a few weeks ago was sort of rolling smoother I guess it was farther away but this one uh the glass was shaking the uh light fixtures were swinging not quite ready for it when I was having my salad all right Eric I talked to some other people they said they felt it what was your initial reaction did you think to get out of the building or to go on the ground get in the doorway or something it was really quick and it was it it felt like something fell it didn't feel like the Earth was shaking it it was more of like a wham bam so yeah okay and what about inside of the store I mean there's a lot of things on the shelves and Whole Foods what uh did anything come down I didn't see anything come down but you could kind of hear the glass shaking okay Eric that's that's frightening I mean we we live it was frightening yeah and living here in La I mean is this something I mean you kind of expect I'm just hoping Mother Earth is letting off a little steam you know uh bit by by bit and we don't get the big one all right well here's hoping of that all right Eric thank you so much glad you're safe uh and Eric's story is very similar to a lot of people that we're talking to here we talked to employees as well uh it was a shaking it was a jolt uh things were moving around you heard what he said the glass was shaking uh but it wasn't that long compared to what we experienced just you know about a week and a half ago with that other earth quake uh but that's the very latest here in Burbank Annabelle back to you pretty safe out there I mean again Conan Olan is joining me here at the desk and Conan I mean you've lived here for so many years experienced many earthquakes but this one felt strong uh it did but it's again location location location as as uh as David bigger pointed out the p waves and the swaave the primary waves are the Rolling waves uh and that's what you feel first and then the secondary waves are the a shorter wavelength the the that's where you get the jolt if you're close to it you hear you feel them both almost simultaneously and uh so when people say well it was started as a slow rolling motion well that you're further away you felt those much longer wavelengths first and then then it felt like a jolt as you got as As Time elapsed and the um and those waves started propagating closer to your location if you're close to it and this is one of the things about earthquakes uh you can feel something and you're not sure if did I feel an earthquake Quake that was right underneath me and it's not so bad or did I feel one that and and it was a long way away and there's some City in ruin so initially and thank goodness for the technology that we have now Shake alert that uh for the longest time we didn't know whether or not this was a a close earthquake that we just felt or something further away that had that had a significant damage in in a city and frequently especially in third world countries when earthquakes take place the last place you hear from is the place that's been hit the hardest because their infrastructure's down their their um their Communications down and only later do you realize that that City closer to the epicenter is in rubble that's not the case here and once again 4.4 to your point as you is said so uh you articulated so well uh this is this is Southern California it is seismic territory uh and seismologists I must tell you the ones who are respons for people getting prepared for earthquakes kind of secretly like these they don't want damage but they want people to be alert to the fact that this is something you can't put off you have to be prepared for it now because it doesn't give you any warning all right okay uh you've been listening to um us cover the breaking news here of an earthquake of 4.4 um a magnitude earthquake out of South Pasadena is what we are hearing and we've been been tracking this a lot of people have definitely been on social media saying that they felt it uh we know that there was at least one person stuck in an elevator in City Hall P Pasadena City Hall we're going to check in with meteorologist Stephanie omo to see what you're learning about this Quake yeah Annabelle we were talking about earlier you know David and I we were just talking we were grabbing a bite to eat and then all of a sudden we felt a jolt and at that point you're like wait a minute is this really an earthquake you know we were talking about one uh last week over in Bakersfield strong enough that we felted throughout parts of the valley this time around we're uh here in Universal City we are actually a little bit closer to that epicenter so we felt here that jolt so again we do have it started up as a a 4.7 but with uh with more data coming coming out well we do have it's now to a 4.4 and what exactly does that mean it's considered to be a light Quake so we're we will'll feel the the shaking also the rattling of noises a lot of us did feel that I'm hearing it on social media when it comes to damage significant damage is unlikely but of course we'll continue to monitor this and just how many of these Quakes do we get per year well here in California we get about 17 uh of these light Quakes per year we were talking about the the mic Shake mic Shake app where it was uh last week uh some of us received a notification some of us did not I was one of those people who did not receive a notification but this time around because we're a little bit closer to the epicenter we didn't uh we actually got got it right when we felt that jolt I think a lot of us did right so as we continue to talk about here uh uh the earthquake and it comes to the aftershocks uh the good news is as more time goes by uh it is less likely that this will be a four shock so yes there will be some uh aftershocks but it will be uh very light should be very light as we continue here but of course that's something that we are continuing to Monitor and and this is a good time of course to uh to think about of course we do live in California we get these earthquakes but I want to make sure to have the the Emer the emergency kits uh nearby have them prepped of course you want to have the water it's a good time to think about those supplies uh I'll send it back to you Annabelle all right uh Stephanie thank you very much for that and of course downgraded to 4.4 uh we are seeing some images again we want to mention that it's a 103 and we've been covering this breaking news an earthquake 4.4 magnet ude out of South Pasadena uh no severe damage reported as of yet but we know that lafd is on earthquake mode and so they are surveying the areas around this this area here uh I'm not sure necessarily what we're seeing here are we seeing this okay thank you uh this is Wilson High School uh apparently evacuated in Els Serino um we are taking we're seeing all of these students out there of course with this stol um many people just taking their precautions but again the reminder is to drop cover hold we have news Chopper 4 Eliana Moreno over the scene Elana good afternoon Annabelle and as you said this is Wilson High School where you can see that the students were evacuated from inside of their buildings after that magnitude 4.4 earthquake struck in this area and they're all currently out on the field right now it's a hot day though so you kind of feel for them they're trying to Fan themselves and keep themselves cool but of course School officials are just thinking about their utmost safety with the possibility that that 4.4 earthquake could have been a fores shock for something greater to come so until they can uh determine that that threat has passed the kids are going to stay out here where there's literally nothing that could fall on them should an earthquake uh strike again but several hundred kids out here uh on the field of Wilson High School after that earthquake struck in this area this afternoon Annabelle of course it's the first day of for so many kids who are experiencing this earthquake on their first day back I mean definitely concerning to them and then of course parents who are at work now absolutely just a a crazy start to the first day of school you've got your first day of school nerves and everything else that goes with that and trying to find your classes and then on top of that uh you experience uh this earthquake so definitely not something that they were accounting for and of course it's also a very hot day out here and now they're in the middle of this field uh trying to keep cool but again as school officials are just trying to determine that there's no damage to the campus itself to their classrooms and that uh there is no uh coming earthquake after this uh magnitude 4.41 that we already experience before they can safely allow the uh the students to go back into their classrooms all right and we will continue to follow that situation there as well Eliana thank you very much for that we're going to bring in meteorologist Stephanie olmo uh to tell us the latest about her Maps yeah so right now as we check out the Didu fuel it map let's see if we could put it up here right now so uh as you see things are starting to fill up little by little so we do have already over 13,000 reports of this so it's it's a good tool that we use of course if you did feel it I do recommend you going to the USGS site and and report that you did feel it this will continue to fill up those closer to the epicenter you may notice a little bit brighter and it's because that's where we felt a little bit more of that jolt a little bit more of that shake uh these numbers are continuing to advance we do have one small Aftershock it was a 2.1 and as I mentioned earlier as time goes by the uh this uh the the likelihood of this becoming uh a for shock uh becomes less likely right as more time comes by goes by so we'll have a little bit more of these small aftershocks as we continue and uh David is actually zooming in some of these areas here so again just around Downey right around downtown LA even just north of downtown LA as we are close closer to that epicenter that's where we really felt a lot of that shaking here so uh we'll continue to monitor this but as of right now we are getting report of that one small Aftershock which is a 2.1 annabal joining us now is Alex Rosier who's at a a gas station in Burbank Alex uh where were you what do you feel yeah well personally I actually did not feel it but I talked to a number of drivers here who felt it and they uh it's empty and quiet right now but the people I talked to every car that pulled in they did feel this earthquake including some people who just arrived from LAX from New York take a listen you felt the earthquake right after you arrived and the U uook absolutely what's your reaction it's crazy my man right here was panicking were you panicking no I was all right we had one a couple months ago in New York this is like my first experience feeling one where like you Rumble based on New York it wasn't as strong as this so it was a little bit intense I wasn't expecting that off coming off a flight well first my ears plugged up like when I was just sing in an airplane then two second later boom how long did it last uh it seemed like forever but it's probably a second or two were you nervous or or yeah a little bit I got up and R ran to my husband honey what happened did you feel that of course he did so of course he did so I don't know how I did not feel it but BL let's bring you back out live to Alam Avenue in Hollywood Way in Burbank again the drivers that we've talked to at this 76 gas station all felt this Quake the one thing I did see was that early warning text I've done some reporting on that in the last couple of weeks and it did arrive prior to the Quake taking place so the myshake app is definitely a tool for people to have you can download in the app store or on Google Play It's going to help you in case a big one does hit but for now live in Burbank I'm Alex Rosier NBC4 news thank you very much Alex so uh would should point out that frequently when people feel an earthquake and they're driving they uh there's a wobble they they assume it's a problem with their car there are great stories about how during the Northridge Earthquake people found out about the earthquake when they pulled over to check to see if they had a flat and then they saw a whole bunch of other cars pulling over also to check to see if their cars had a flat tire as a result of the of the movement as they're driving I'm not sure how much of that took place in this earthquake but I would assume if you were close enough to the epicenter and you were driving yeah you you you you felt it as well definitely and I mean anybody who was near Pasadena walking around I mean it's lunchtime essentially and anybody who was out at a restaurant uh Lisa jarian who was we were just speaking to the Pio for Pasadena says that she was having lunch and she felt the earthquake and so were and so did a number of people who were in that restaurant as well so definitely a lot of people have been feeling this earthquake again this follows another earthquake that we had last week on Tuesday that was a 5.2 in the Kern County area uh again a reminder though that we need to be prepared uh so many people aren't prepared and we live in this area where we are so you know we are uh in earthquake land and so we're going to check back in now with our meteorologists and see how they're doing and what we have learned uh so yeah Annabelle just the additional detail Stephanie had mentioned this just a few moments ago is that we do have a report of an Aftershock that was also in in the area it was a 2.1 so it was likely not really perceptible although then again now that everybody's got kind of this hid anded awareness after having a quake that they may have likely felt it uh so taking a look at our Maps here you can see again the location of this earthquake it was south of the 110 freeway south just south of the Highland Park area and uh one interesting thing we were kind of hearing during one of the earlier press conferences one of the seismologists and con was talking about this earlier is kind of which fault this might be along and they were saying this is isn't on the Raymond fault necessarily well I've got a little simplified fault map for Southern California this this just kind of helps to speak to the complexity of everything we have so many various fault lines around Southern California and this is just again a simplified version there are many on here that are not necessarily plotted but you can sort of see where this earthquake occurred it almost looks like it's at the intersection of so many different faults you can just imagine how complicated the fault system is in that general area so obviously the USGS will continue to look into this as they continue to study this earthquake here's a look at the shaking intensity map so again any of the brighter colors along the green yellow and red that would be considered more uh felt or at least more extreme shaking as we zoom in this map here and kind of show you a just generalized look at the area you can see that there was probably a pretty decent amount of shaking felt around downtown LA montabello Huntington Park Highland Park obviously alhamra likely around Pasadena as well but the shaking was still F pretty far away you can almost see if you look very closely here you can sort of see the outline of the San Fernando Valley with a slightly different color than the surrounding mountains this actually has to do with a lot of the soil that that the earthquake waves are running through there's a little bit of amplification that happens within some of the Valley locations you'll see that as well if you look toward the San Gabriel Valley we've got some slightly different colors here in this section in comparison to some of the mountain areas around it now if you take the shake map which is again kind of a an estimate by some of the computer models of where we would feel the shaking and you compare it to the did youil map you'll see that the colors sort of match uh essentially it's the same color scale here if you see some yellows or even Reds on this map that's an indication that people felt a lot more shaking and you can see as I zoom in this map here obviously the the greater concentration of that green and yellow coloring indicating a little more shaking is definitely closer to the epicenter but pretty well through parts of the Basin and if I back out this map now you can see how far away some of these reports have come we've been getting reports from around Tula we've gotten some reports from San Diego County indicated by that small little blue shading just to the west of Ramona there we've also had some reports coming in from the high desert as well so again we've got over 15,000 reports that have started pouring in to the USGS which then also feeds into our system here uh so this has just been kind of interesting to follow Seth yeah absolutely you know we're talking about also about the p waves and the S waves right the P wve you get that Joel to the swave you get a little bit more that shaking so we we certainly felt that across the area here um and areas a little bit further out as you mentioned in the shake map right and and and a little emphasis point on that so the p-wave moves faster than the s-wave so if you are far away from the epicenter you'll feel a little kind of jolt you might have a little bit of a break and then you'll start to feel a rolling sensation if you're in downtown LA if you're in Alhambra if you're in the eastern half of the San Fernando Valley if you're in much of the San Gabriel Valley as well parts of the Basin because of how close we all are to the epicenter all of that arrives at once so the jolt and the rolling all essentially happens at once and that's why when we were showing the seismo earlier you just see it just go straight up and down if you are farther away from the Quake which you'll end up seeing is a little bit of kind of motion on the seismo it might go away and then more uh kind of up down motion on the seismograph but in in our case again because the seismo is so close to where this happened it essentially was just one big just kind of mess of lines going on uh so that's just that that shows kind of how close everybody was is if you felt just everything arrive all at once that also affects obviously the earthquake early warning system the farther you are away the more time you have between the computer system figuring out who to notify and the notification being sent a lot of us around downtown LA here at Universal City cuz I was sitting with uh Stephanie at lunch uh we essentially heard our phones going off after the shaking had stopped and we were already on our way to the studio so it was kind of that's kind of what happens with the earthquake early warning system depending on your proximity to where the earthquake happened yeah exactly and we we were talking about it earlier uh David I know Conan mentioned it too it all depends on location right the soil underneath your feet The Rock tip that will uh actually really determine the initial feeling of this so um I know you mentioned more the San Fernando Valley and and more that the lighter blue so uh yeah right now again it's a 4.4 initially it was a 4.7 but as we know when we get this it comes down as more data as they get receive more data so right now is a 4.4 and we've already have one small uh Aftershock as you mentioned and we just added another Aftershock three minutes ago so we now have two aftershocks with us uh of 2.1 intensity which again twos are going to be barely on that level of being able to even be felt um again though to considering that both these aftershocks have occurred in about the same area as the main shock it's it's one of those cases where you might be pretty heightened alertness wise and so you'll feel that right because it happened to me last week when we were talking about the one in Bakers field the shaking had stopped but I I just felt like the the house just continued to shake it was just all in my head at that time right so I completely agree with you on that yeah so again this is the USGS will continue to work on exactly which fault line this was along it is in the neighborhood of the Raymond faults it's in the neighborhood of a couple of other fault lines as well uh so they're going to continue to work on this but again Southern California and Conan had kind of talked about this earlier as well it is such a complicated web of fault lines and it is incredibly difficult even on what looks like an obvious earthquake oh look that happened right on this fault we find out later oh well it's not really because it's this and this so it's it is very complicated and this is why obviously there are the professionals who come up with exactly where this is located right if I can add to that Lucy Jones compared it to this you get a kick out of it if you take a a Stairway let's say it's outside your house it's a Concrete stairway and you broke uh a plate of glass and then you took a broom you started sweeping the glass up against the bottom stair that's what the earthquake system looks like in Southern California they're on top of each other they're just kind of all mangled uh and it's the reason why the San Gabriels don't go north and south which most mountain ranges do they go east and west the Transverse Range it's all because of the seismicity that's built up within the LA Basin and and um we had kind of heard uh the the seismologist talking a little bit about this when we started taking the uh press conference um but a lot of people um there's this there's this myth out there about oh well this is this is good that we had something like a four it's relieved the stress but it really hasn't because it we're talking about a logarithmic scale here the difference between a four and a five is a pretty huge amount of energy and you go up even higher than that it's even more all right David thank you very much and Stephanie as well thank you we're going to check in with uh Camila rambaldi she is over in Exposition Park Camila how are you doing did you feel it so I was actually on my way here when I got that alert on my phone so I did not hear it but my photographer who got here just a few minutes before me he was parked right outside of the LA Memorial colise seeum here and he told me that he started feeling his van rocking back and forth here I also spoke with a man who was getting ready to go on tour here at the Coliseum and he told me he felt kind of like a swaying motion and that rocking you know underneath his feet here's more of his reaction leaning against a light pole and all of a sudden it started shaking from the bottom and then underneath my feet it was like a a swaying motion like a a little Ripple um feeling underneath my feet for lasted 3 or 4 seconds uh what was going through your mind in that moment I was like cuz I'm here on vacation and wow that's an earthquake and uh yeah then my wife called me right instantly after that obviously that that shock uh that he felt when this all happened but here at the LA Memorial Coliseum operations are back to normal I did speak with a few other people in this area who also felt uh this latest earthquake just another reminder uh to always be prepared for these kinds of situations I'm going to go ahead and send it back to you all right Camila thank you very much for that and yes a definitely definitely a good reminder to be prepared uh we're GNA go now to Eric Scott he's with the lfd um thank you very much for joining us you're welcome Annabella our pleasure Eric did you feel it where were you at we sure did uh we're at lafd headquarters so that's downtown Los Angeles uh at literally like first in Maine at the epicenter um at City Hall East so there was a significant jolt a lot of eyes opened really wide and then there was some significant rolling that took place afterwards Captain you know I I've lived here all my life I felt the northri earthquake and it's still it's still scary for us you know who who grew up here and have experienced a major earthquake such as the northd Northridge Earthquake what do you I mean we forget that you guys are people as well what what goes through your mind well we are people as well but fortunately we're trained so uh we don't we don't worry unnecessarily we do really lean on preparedness you know I remember the North Bridge earthquake I was actually on the freeway driving and uh I thought the driver was just trying to swerve and wake me up because I was dozing off due to how early in the morning it was so it was a significant incident then you see all the blue flashes of light on the hillsides of Los Angeles from the Transformers blowing so as you mentioned it's nothing too new to us um but as for as the fire department we kind of want people to remember a couple things that when the ground actually shakes go to your hands and knees tuck your head into your legs crawl under a sturdy desk or a table that's what we call is that drop cover and hold on but there's a couple things we'd like people to stay away from and that's not often talked about but avoid Windows bookcases refrigerators heavy mirrors some objects essentially that can fall on you and most people tend to be in a building so stay away from the exterior walls that can tend to be where some of the more dangerous uh aspects are and if it happens like Northridge at an odd hour and you're in bed stay there cover your head your neck with a pillow uh if you are Outdoors drop to the ground crawl towards an open space or away from buildings and power lines but fortunately this Quake yet being a 4.4 uh didn't cause any significant damage that we have uh been relayed to us at this point we've done a complete survey so excellent reminder to be prepared did you have any Captain this is Con and noan did you have any uh um the early warning system frequently allows you to pull up the the doors on on the station um garages so that the apparatus will have uh unimpeded uh ability to to leave if you need to be um if you need to be sent out was there any indication that you had stations close enough where you got that alert and the and the doors went up you know many people uh get those alerts on your cell phones and we encourage people to do that as well we don't have something that's predesignated for opening doors it's something we're continuing to look at but um what happens with your LA City fire department is very impressive to watch when we enter earthquake mode that's when you have firefighters from all 106 neighborhood fire stations they're going to complete a strategic Sur surve of the 470 square miles of the Greater Los Angeles area to ensure safety so that happened right away um all those firefighters are out most have came back um to um to present if there was any damage and really what we're looking at as major areas of concern and these are predetermined so we're looking at Transportation infrastructures like freeway overpasses we're looking at large places of assemblage from Dodger Stadium to universities we're looking at apartment buildings cuz we all know what happened in North rdge with some of the apartment buildings we're looking at dams and power lines and a lot of people are surprised to learn that we're going to do this from the ground air and see to ensure safety and then all of those uh fire stations report back to headquarters as they are doing this right now as I'm sitting in headquarters and so far no significant damage uh or injuries that we can uh relate Captain do you wait for calls as far as to go out to other places that are not predetermined so no what happens is when the earth shakes in Los Angeles again we have those 106 neighborhood fire stations so they've already predetermined Target hazards in their area and so they are responsible of doing a strategic survey of that that really quick area around their fire station that they can safely get to now if this was a significant quake and we had a lot of damage we're going to Simply triage like we would for any Mass C casual type incident so we're going to do the greatest good for the greatest amount of people Captain Eric Scott thank you very much for your time with the LA FD appreciate it stay safe out there you too all right we're going to check in with meteorologist Stephanie omo Stephanie what are you hearing now yeah so I mean we we still have do uh we still have the small aftershocks as we reported that 2.1 so a very light Quake um again we do have how many people have let's check out how many people have uh set reports so far so still 15,000 people uh plus who have sent their reports again with uh that shaking especially uh over right near the epicenter where we have a lot of those bright colors you see some of the yellows and some of the greens in those areas and again I'm sure we'll continue to get more of these reports as more people continue to fill in their responses in the USGS website here so uh when we're talking about a an earthquake of this magnitude as I mentioned before of 4.4 um especially for those who live closer to the epicenter yes you are going to you we felt that jolt here uh where we are and a lot of people nearby but it's still considered to be a light Quake we we a lot of us felt that shaking um some rattling of the noises uh maybe some stuff knocked down in your homes uh but in terms of significant damage that is still likely but of course that's something that we'll continue to monitor here as we uh continue here this afternoon so sorry go ahead go ahead David no all I was going to add was I was just going to pull up this uh one little uh so yeah the the thing is with California we get about on average it's between about 15 to 20 of anything within a 4 to a 4.9 per year uh across the entire world it's it's pretty common it's 6,200 per year you'll notice that once you get into like that five range how the numbers quickly drop off this all has to do with the amount of energy release across the region so anyways I just wanted to mention noticeable shaking was something like this but con you could probably speak to this really well so significant damage unlikely because obviously building codes matter are they they right and uh is seismologists like to say earthquakes don't kill people buildings kill people nobody knows that better of course than the chief of police for the city of P of South Pasadena Brian solinsky joins us uh so uh Chief um how did how did your City fair we actually fared pretty well the the jolt came on quick it it felt like it lasted for just a short period of time but it was a it was a trembler and a lot of pictures fell off the building or off the walls and uh certainly shocked some people in the in the building but uh we fared fairly well uh almost immediately we started receiving phone calls from the community checking in uh we sent our public safety personnel out immediately to do what we call windshield survey which is essentially just driving and checking our critical infrastructure both fire and police department and uh we don't have any damage or report of damage no injuries thank goodness and uh I think a lot of that is due to the preparedness that we go through uh as a community and then of course someone mentioned the building codes uh there's been a lot of time for uh retrofitting over the years so in a community as old as South pass I certainly think that played a part of it where were you I I was actually here in the police department City Hall uh conference area and uh watching the window shake and uh uh we we practice this all the time stay away from the walls stay away from Windows and and not to rush outside especially when we're talking about older buildings and those that are like our cinder block with tile roofs they have a tendency to fall down we certainly practice that we want to make sure that our Personnel are safe they don't run outside accidentally get hit by something so we shelter in place uh you said that pictures fell off the wall was that at uh your headquarters there yes right and the uh so you're you're in contact with obviously the fire Department the uh does the As a matter of protocol um the as we just learned from from the captain uh from lafd uh they will they will just they will peruse they'll just drive through the neighborhoods once this earthquake happens looking for uh looking for issues does the police department do you practice the same protocol absolutely we partner with our fire department and we take certain sections uh we've divided those sections between the fire and Police Department we look at our crital critical infrastructure first uh then we'll Branch out to our schools and then certainly our neighborhoods look to see if there's any significant structural damage or uh backups in traffic and those types of things and we prioritize those so that we can get that completed in a in a very timely manner and an efficient manner right South pass you have your share of uh of unreinforced brick masonry buildings that have been retrofitted do I have that right I mean my my guess is they've all been retrofitted but but that's doesn't mean that there's not a hazard absolutely you know as much as we prepare uh nothing is 100% guaranteed so we want to go out there and look at those larger buildings uh especially the masonary ones and make sure that there's no cracks no damage or no no no potential for the aftershocks to knock anything down right and what would you say to the people of your city if they have a concern about that uh obviously don't hesitate to call absolutely call the city we can send a building inspector out there we can certainly send our fire department out there and take a look and then I would encourage everybody make sure that you have a safety kit one at your house one in your car one in your office building something with some medication some clothes and then this is a great reminder to work out a safety plan with your family so that everybody knows where to go in case something like this happens again right it is a uh it is a God's way of deliberate delivering a PSA announcement uh to to everybody who lives in earthquake country to remind themselves we live in earthquake country I'm sorry to repeat that over and over and over again but that obviously is one of the messages uh Brian seninsky is that it would you like is there anything else uh no I think that's it if anybody has any questions or concerns about the the safety of their Community I encourage you to call your city uh everyone is prepared and should have some plans and something available to give to the residents so that uh uh we're all safer in the future Brian seninsky is the chief of police for the beautiful city of South Pasadena thanks for taking the time thank you okay and now we're going to check back in with our meteorologist Stephanie ELO David biger um we see your map there I mean any changes as far as you know well the one thing that we've been keeping track of is we've been watching to see if there's been any aftershocks and we don't have them plotted on here but there have been two aftershocks right in the area close to Highland Park so they've both been I believe they were 21s one about here and one about here so it's all in about the same general area and I was going to actually back out the map here we're going to show you the did you feel up map Steph we've got 19,000 reports here that yeah 19,000 report so as we noted earlier uh uh David you know um as time goes by we'll have more people obviously uh report to the USGS and we'll continue to update this but just a bit ago you know we had we didn't have it all colored in but as more people are sending their reports in we're beginning to see it uh actually fill in in the colors and also again as we mentioned closer to the epicenter that's where we have a lot of the bright colors that's where we have uh the yellows and the greens that's where a lot of people obviously really felt that shaking yeah so you can actually see we have this little Legend up here where it says no shaking to extreme shaking so essentially if we feel the green if you see the green or the yellows popping up on the map here like what you're seeing around parts of the Basin that's a pretty good indication of some significant shaking we rarely unless we have a very strong earthquake start to get deep into this yellow or even orange but I wanted you to also see kind of how far away from the earthquake we're getting reports in getting reports from the coast of Ventura County we've gotten some reports from San Diego County right next to Steph right where the 19 is on up there you can see that we've got some reports coming in from the high desert as well so we're going to switch this View and we're going to go to something that was essentially generated by a computer that should look pretty similar and it sort of does this is the shaking intensity map so this is what is often referred to by the USGS as the shake map and you'll notice that a good portion of the Basin has this green coloring here an indication that it was pretty widely felt and with pretty decent intensity but the interesting thing here you can add in a little bit more on this is you'll notice all the Mountain locations are one color but you'll see these Stripes here so here's the Santa Clair River Valley uh you can see that we've got some of the Cano valleys kind of meshed up in here we've got a little bit of the coastal plane the San fro Valley we're talking more like Sandy soils essentially yeah exactly so Sandy soils and I know you mentioned this earlier right around the area here and also when uh when we actually put the Didu feel it map just a bit ago I think what was quite interesting that you actually F you saw a lot lot of people in the area felt a good amount of shaking you saw that Bri color right exactly so um and as I mentioned as time goes by we'll have more reports and it is just really impressive you know you think of a point a 4.4 is considered to be a light Quake but just to see how far uh a lot of these people felt the shaking yeah and and as Conan mentioned earlier it is all about location it it all depends on the soil type the rock type below you that is why the San Fernando Valley is a slightly different color than the Verdugo Mountains and the the San Gabriel mountains the San Gabriel Valley is a slightly different color you'll notice as you get down to Orange County all the Sandy soils that are much closer to the coastline slightly different color than some of the mountain spots and you'll even notice that in the IE all these mountain peaks kind of uh kind of poking out of the map here slightly different colors all these kind of purples which would indicate maybe a little less in the way of shaking in comparison to some of the sander soils essentially around the area so that's kind of what we've been keeping track of with some of the maps we send it back over to you all right David Stephanie thank you very much for that um truly we're just getting to learn more and more information as time goes on but again this is an earthquake that um hit around 12:20 this afternoon a 4.4 earthquake it was downgraded from a 4.7 near South pasaden and of course so many people as you guys were just talking about felt it uh Conan Nolan is here at the desk with me we felt it um I was in studio coning you were in The Newsroom but again that jolt felt very strong yeah we feel uh shaking on occasion he usually big truck outside and obviously uh this was far greater than that Alex Rosier is in Burbank Alex out here just off the 135 at Alam in Hollywood Way Airport Drive we have been talking to drivers over the last hour that have pulled in they've been in a variety of locations when that earthquake hit at 1220 but I'll tell you we've heard a couple of different stories including those from people who are simply visiting Los Angeles here's a couple from Portland take a listen we're downtown in Hollywood and I'm sitting in the car getting ready to figure out our next move and then I felt a major Rumble coming on the whole car was swaying like that nothing around the vehicle but yet it was rocking everyone on the street was acting normal so I was nervous yeah cuz I'm not from here but I know California is known for earthquakes and I didn't want to be part of the major one what was your experience um felt like swaying of the car I thought somebody was jumping on the back of the car it was nothing back there I looked across the street like she said everybody's walking around like it was normal they had the whole car like he was on a boat just rocking like that and you're not from here no I'm not Portland I was born here but I live in Portland Oregon right now and let's bring you back out live to Alam Avenue here in Burbank just off the 134 a number of people who felt it a variety of different stories we're going to keep TR talking to drivers here at the 76 gas station to get some more reaction but for now we'll send it back to you in the studio it's always so great to hear people's reaction right from those that are uh visiting from another state that don't experience these earthquakes but let me tell you my reaction is just like that woman's you interviewed Alex I don't want to be part of the big one I mean it's inevitable though exactly exactly yes no doubt for me personally I'm from the Midwest I'm I'm new to California new is so I'm with you Alex thank you very much for that all right all right uh we are following some more breaking news from Paris to Los Angeles the airplane carrying the Olympic flag is landing at LAX well you it landed already this is a live look from news Chopper 4 our own Colleen Williams is on that flight along with mayor Karen bass athletes on board as well Conan this is really exciting and we are seeing that Delta flight right there right Delta flight 291 from Charles deal direct to Los Angeles International Airport arriving just a few moments ago actually about 30 minutes early and I have to tell you for for folks who got a big kick out of the Tom Cruz uh departure off the top of the French Stadium last night in the ceremony that turned over the Olympic flag to Los Angeles I have to say there there there's sort of some harmonic convergence that they arrive on the day of an earthquake uh because it just goes to show you yes we are Hollywood and yes we have our own little natural disaster that is sort of pigeon hole to Southern California so it's these are definitely our Olympics on board as you just pointed out Colleen Williams as well as the mayor of Los Angeles Karen bass we can assume Casey werman the CEO of La 2028 who along with the previous mayor Eric arti worked starting 10 years ago 11 years ago the process of bringing the games here to Los Angeles tirelessly they nailed it and it's uh as Casey waserman told Mike too yesterday on NBC news that it's uh up until now La has been on the on Deck circle now they're headed up to the Batters box it's going to take four years for them to get some swings in but that's going to go by fast uh and because Los Angeles is not going to be building any new uh facilities they're going to actually be spending 80% of their money within like the last three months of the period just before the game so this is very exciting very excited indeed and we're g to let's check in with h Robert kosic Olivia Garvey they are standing by