this is delicious uh van Jones on CNN just ripped apart a trump guy Maga guy and it was just delightful to watch I'll play it for you then we'll we'll discuss since she is the least vetted candidate she has never got a vote and she has been one interview where she had her vice president with her um in history there's never been a candidate who's less better than she's also the vice president of the United States well you would know that from her debate performance where she pretended that she barely knew anything that the Biden Administration was doing it wasn't responsible for any of it uh she she was too busy whooping your boy all over the stage to get to those those things here's what I I think uh KLA Harris did something that no politician has done ever she didn't just beat him she humiliated him she humiliated him he by the way if you want this to be a more enjoyable experiment experience watch this guy as van Jones is talking he looks just visibly uncomfortable it's great he has been the Pacman of American politics he has eaten up gobbled up politicians spit him out went through 16 uh Republican Governors and Senators like it was nothing and even when he does badly he usually has something he can point to she whooped him so badly that I think he's literally afraid to come back and so um now I agree uh the last 20 minutes she could have stopped with the elder abuse at that point and then turned more to her program I wish that she had but she's got plenty of time now and now I had not really thought about the fact that this was the first time this was done to Trump right everyone's thought about him especially in Republican primaries was that he could just he could just leave people with a campaign and shambles after debates we didn't know why we F felt like we saw the childishness Plenty we didn't understand why Republican voters were getting so hyped for his behavior on the debate stage but it was working for him and while Biden definitely beat him in the 2020 uh debates because Trump was super on hinged and Biden sort of came off more presidential kept appealing to American voters directly there was still this this vibe that Trump was able to dominate in debates by name calling and stuff and I had never really consider we talked about how the way to break down an authoritarian is to sort of call them names back and make them insecure make them feel small and it felt weird with someone as dangerous as Trump to mock him in light-hearted ways but apparently with Trump's Decline and with Harris's strategy that's that's what it takes it's almost like the Biden's and the clintons even though they were determined in their respective debate 2016 2020 obviously not Biden's in0 24 but to have beat Trump at times but that was more because they just stayed professional and then Trump was kind of crazy but that was different than what we saw from Harris where Trump at least when he was crazy it was a crazy that was his Playbook Harris was able to grab his Playbook throw it away and then Trump just panicked and the way she did that was by not stooping to his level but by pushing his buttons at least and saying things she knew he'd have to respond to I'll keep going back to it cuz it's the best example of how Trump's getting asked about the border security bill after Harris made a point about how Trump shot down the border security bill but that is forgot his response to that is forgotten all people heard was the Harris border security point which is so important and how she actually supports the plan he doesn't but then because at the end she tacked on to her point that Trump's crowds aren't as big as hers or whatever it was and or walking out he talks about Hannibal Lector he got fixated on that and it spun out his brain and he he tried to talk about the border for a second but then didn't answer the border security Bill point and then went on to World War III is going to happen and then I'm pretty sure that was the time where he said they're eating the dogs so I didn't realize it was as simple as even though Harris did it brilliantly but it was as simple as get under his skin purposefully bordering on childishly right the sort of making fun of him in certain ways it borders on not presidential deba but do it within really serious points of your own so that he gets thrown off and can't address a serious points and then all people remember is not that you were U not that you were making points that don't seem super consequential but instead his reaction and then the fact that you came off more presidential brilliant and it's led to as PUD mentioned on CNN Trump being just terrified of doing another he's terrified you're scared Trump right you're scared of K Harris that's kind of sad the big strong man's man leader of this massive cult can't do another debate with kamla Harris isn't she the Dei can't do anything unqualified you said she has really low IQ what does that say about you but just to see the the impact that something like this could be having on people's lives what do you make of what what's happening this is a strategy and there's even more to it than demonizing immigrants allthough that's obviously part of what he's doing this is a strategy to get us talking about the latest and I actually think this is a great point but it's the wrong one uh in terms of the clip I meant to play for you let me see if I can find this clip here what did you make of trump saying today no more debates between him and Harris well I remember back when he was saying anytime any place but what changed of course is he got beat uh he doesn't like being beat he doesn't like being embarrassed so I'm not totally surprised that he's changed his position backed off and doesn't want to go through that again do you think that there will ultimately be another match do you think he'll be able to because you and I talked about this last time you said that you thought Trump was scared to to go on the debate stage with her do you think there will ultimately be another one hard to say uh you know there may come a point where the Dynamics build against him and he decides he needs to do something anything to uh shift attention from uh uh from her winning message maybe that would motivate him to change his strategy I'm I'm beyond trying to predict what his strategy will be in the future what I do know is it was a great night for her and it was a really rough night for him what did you yeah indeed and I think even though he's announced he definitely won't do another one I agree that if things got bad enough polling wise he might feel like this is his only chance to claw back some support in front of that big of an audience but you know what was an interesting point I know some think all right yeah it was fun to watch her being able to look at him and say you're a disgrace and to get him so angry to get under his skin his unraveling that's all great but what is that what does that really mean is it really that important in terms of him as a leader it is and the point I heard someone make was if he can't prevent himself from spiraling completely out of control when Harris makes just one comment about his crowd size he doesn't have the stability the level headedness and the judgment to be president right if she if he can't handle a presidential debate and and prevent someone from getting in his head and manipulating him as she did she manipulated the heck out of him then we don't want him going up against other world leaders and the other point she kept making is through flattery world leaders authoritarians our enemies can can get you around their finger that's not the phrase What's the phrase that relates to something about someone being round a finger I can't remember but they can they can totally play you like a fiddle there we go and and that's not a president that we want we want someone who's level-headed enough to be able to have someone say things provocatively to them and not completely crumple then in the van Jones CNN clip he does mention that he would have liked to hear more about Harris's agenda I had that thought it's so difficult thinking about the 30 billion things she was trying to keep in her head the points about each question she'd be asked by the moderators obviously these things they had practiced a bunch in terms of getting in Trump's head and that's why she looked so happy whenever he would spir out of control cuz she was like this is going exactly how I wanted it to and then all of her own points about her forward-looking vision I think she got to it enough and and at least people's cuz we don't remember the specifics but remember how we felt about things I think they feeling about the night was this person has a plan and is uh mature enough to be president presid and has the brain to be president this guy seems like he's falling apart I think that'll take away one other thing from CNN I want to talk about attorney general mer Garland spoke about the threats um against the justice department and election officials and what they are facing going into the this election he just launched this election threats task force last election you were one of the lawmakers who voted to not certify Biden's Victory if Trump loses and every state certifies as the results of their election will you accept a peaceful transfer of power you know it's it's hard to say what you're going to do and what you're not because my job is to make sure the regularities are within the standard that the federal government puts out place which is us what is irregularities that we're willing to accept if it's past those irregularities in a district or a state then absolutely not if it's within those standards so if every state certifies the election results so they have their own processes if the elections are certified underneath the standards that they put forth every state has the right to set their well because the every state sets their own state election laws right and he goes on but the big line was if Trump loses and every state certifies the result will you accept the peaceful transfer power Mark Wayne Mullen says it's hard to say and he goes on and in his head he has these oh no because this could happen or that I could I'm just so tired of it you know yeah what's difficult is of course it always technically makes sense to say I'd only certify it if it we Fair yeah obviously that that's sort of the whole thing but the point is that you're definition of fair just means what did Trump decide was it fair or was it not fair and Mark Wayne Mullen I don't even know if you would put him in the most aggressively Maga category and even he and every other I use this term not to be insulting but because it's the most accurate Coward of a politician in the Republican party it's a shame that so many of them are going to if Trump were to lose attempt again to block the peaceful transfer power luckily it's it's less danger Dangerous but less dangerous because Biden's the president so Trump in 2020 was able to wield his power as president to try to do that which is why we came so close to a constitutional crisis Biden wouldn't do that uh and think about that too oh gosh this can just it can get me so angry think about that when Trump's president if Trump wins there would have been a peaceful transfer power in the sense that he would have stayed president and Democrats would have accepted it if Trump loses and he's president he's going to try to do everything as president to prevent the next person from coming to office as he did if Biden's president if a democrat's president everyone knows they'll dispute it but everyone knows if Trump wins Biden with all of his feelings of trump will hand overp power to Trump peacefully without illegal schemes to prevent that but uh and then obviously if Harris wins he'll do the same it's just a huge difference in the character of the two the two parties right now but here we're getting ready for that and it's why some people are saying yes we want a Harris Victory and even just a narrow Harris Victory is going to be really hard to get but man if we could do a sort of landslide victory that would be so much more comfortable cuz then it's going to be harder for one or a few crazy magga election workers or officials to mess it all up and we've gone through in rolling ston reporting just how many people involved in our elections are now election deniers and and Maga folks and for a few Senators to mess everything up if it's a landslide it'll be harder and probably easier for some of them to say ah even if I think it was stolen it's going to be too hard to prevent the the election from being certified so we'll see but scary times let me know what you thought in the comments