NFL LIVE | Booger McFarland on Justin Fields start final preseason, Bo Nix named QB1 of Broncos

fell live Browns quarterback tohaa Watson was cleared for contact last week but had a setback today Browns head coach Kevin stefansky said his QB was limited with quote General arm soreness saying quote I decided just to hold back a little bit with him but not overly concerned still no word if Watson will play in Cleveland's preseason finale we'll stay in the AFC North where it's been a bumpy preseason for Pittsburgh Russell Wilson Justin Fields have played 13 combined series the team has three points to show for it this is the opposite from last year's preseason when Kenny picket went off though that success was curbed a little bit once the games that count started new Steelers OC Arthur Smith thinks everyone should calm down when talking about offensive struggles Smith said quote to give context to it when you want to play guys we're in a unique situation where you need to evaluate preseason can distort reality good or bad we've all seen it and that's not making excuses but things happen in football Russell Wilson also said today he would play in the preseason finale Saturday in Detroit no word yet on if he'll start Jeff what more can you tell us where things stand with the Steelers quarterback competition well it is significant that Russell Wilson is saying he'll play on Saturday now this competition while it doesn't feel like it's necessarily been decided by the play during these preseason games it does still feel like it's trending toward Russell Wilson starting week one and I know that he did deal with the three sacks in the most recent preseason game he actually had kind of campaigned to stay on the field longer than he was initially supposed to Arthur Smith the offensive coordinator was going to have him play three series but he kind of uh lobbied to get out there for a couple more he wants to get this right very clearly I I think that we shouldn't necessarily read into him playing as part of the competition itself but more Russell he missed some a training camp due to his calf injury he wants to get as many reps as possible uh so I think it is significant that he is going to be on the field on Saturday booger you were shaking your head through the entirety of that Arthur Smith quote we've got two new QBs in Pittsburgh we've got a new OC who do you think the Steelers should start under Center week one there's no add is if you have two of something you don't have one and that fits this steer quarterback situation to a te it's like asking a young bu hey Bo you want brussels sprouts or you want asparagus I really don't want either one but if you force me to eat one of them I'm going to choose brussels sprouts because I can drown it with some sauce like if you're looking at Russell Wilson and Justin Fields I think they both have their flaws but if I had to choose one to start it would be Russell Wilson and I would just say this I would hope that at some point Russell's experience and his ability to minimize the mistakes and minimize the turnovers would show up because the same flaws that he has leaving the pocket and not reading the football not reading the defense down the field are there the same flaws that Justin Fields now I don't want to hear about Justin Fields athleticism that athlet ISM athleticism got him ran out of Chicago at some point that position you have to deliver the football down the field and right now neither one is doing a really good job of it yeah for me Booger I I would go with Justin Fields because he's 10 years younger than Russell Wilson I think there's more upside and I think his game really mirrors Ryan tanah Hill who had two great years in Tennessee with Arthur Smith I understand that it's not the most polished passing game that doesn't happen overnight but I do think there's more ways for them to win games with Justin Fields right now than there is with Russell Wilson and I would say this unfortunately Minnesota's looking for a quarterback in terms of they lost JJ McCarthy for the year if I'm Pittsburgh I'm looking to try to trade Russell Wilson maybe I could pick up a third or a fourth round pick and Ryan tanah Hill ironically is still out there guys so if I'm Pittsburgh I'm starting Justin Fields looking at sign Ryan tanah Hill and if I could trade Russell Wilson that's something I would do keep in mind last year 66 different quarterbacks started a game in the NFL I get that uh if you're Minnesota I'm really not sure why you would want him but uh if you can do that maybe you need to be be back in the GM rooll again Mike T hey B you're talking boo you're talking asparagus brussel sprouts we know Mike Tomlin makes a mean chicken salad uh cuz Hey welcome in NFL live with breaking news out of the mile high city Broncos fans hope they found their quarterback back of the future and first round pick Bo Knicks the QB with more college starts than any NCAA player ever has been named Denver starter for week one in Seattle by coach Shawn pton want to talk real quick about the quarterback position you guys have been real patient I understand you know and and respect that that that process for you and and for us we've had a process um so look Bo Nicks is going to be our starting quarterback he's been outstanding obviously uh there's there's a ton of room for growth there there's a lot of things that he needs to work on you know it was really cool it's uh you know not every day to um to get that news but obviously you know as a room we've been working hard um and you know putting a lot of good things on on film putting a lot of good things um you know on the practice field um and so to to get that that news is definitely um a great great um you know great thing and so I'm super excited and um you know ready to get back to work again and go back to it and start again Nicks will be only the second rookie QB to make a start with Shawn pyton as head coach Ian books the other and Nicks has earned this spot he's been one of the most effective quarterbacks in the league this preseason ranking in the top three in completion percentage touchdown interception ratio and passer rating amongst players with at least 20 pass attempts and now welcome into our NFL live Studios along with Mike tanon bomb and Jeff Darlington I'm Phil Murphy booger Farland South pal Antonio joining us shortly but Jeff this news is breaking but not necessarily surprising with how Bo Knicks has played what more can you tell us about Denver's decision to start him in week one well I can tell you that Shawn pton said that the media was being patient this required patience from Shawn Payton because you knew he wanted to scream from the rooftops that he found his guy and he did find his guy even earlier in this training camp this is one of those great camp stories that we always kind of thirst over because bonick won this job he went in there and took it over this is a team that had Zack Wilson and Jared sdam seemingly uh competing for maybe that week one starter job while B Nick got ready Nicks went in there and said no no I'm going to show you why this is going to be my job so it's one of those maybe rare stories where a rookie is not being forced into the role that he has uh taken but instead earned that role through the play that he has showed both in practices and in Camp very much sha pton feels like he has found his point guard to run his offense yeah not common for a rookie to start under Shawn pyton not common for a rookie to start in Denver Mike this is the first Broncos QB to start in week one since John Elway 40 years ago what are your expectations for this offense in year one with Nicks as the starter you know Phil I think Jeff used the right ter when we talked about point guard this is going to be the New Orleans Saints offense with Drew Brees quick passing you know look for guys like Marvin mins courland Sutton to have really meaningful uh participation with run after catch in the passing game Javonte Williams will get a ton of opportunities not only running but also uh in the passing game if they have success B Knicks is a better athlete Than People realize the success will come down to his ability to get rid of the ball quickly and then make plays with his feet remember he had a Transcendent year at Oregon after transferring from Auburn with 45 touchdown passes and if we go back back to the draft back in April a lot of people pre-draft thought Bo Knicks was Shawn Payton's guy turned out that was the case he was one of the six quarterbacks taken in the first round so I think this is a decision that's been a long time making and I and I think what Shawn Payton is hoping is this will look a lot and feel a lot like those great Saint offenses with B Knicks growing into Drew Brees's role the Broncos remain without a playoff win or playoff birth since they won Super Bowl 50 the Dolphins haven't won a playoff game since 2000 that's the longest active NFL drought but the story of the week in Miami remains to a Tong of ao's criticism of former coach Brian Flores this is one that Tu tongoa didn't react well to if you woke up every morning and I told you you suck at what you did genuinely happy for the success that Tu had I really wish him nothing but the best that you don't belong doing what you do that you shouldn't be here that that you haven't eared earned this right it does make Brian Flores reflect ton of credit here though is Mike McDaniel who rebuilt this man's psyche and you have somebody else come in and tell you dude you are the best fit for this how would it make you feel listening to one or the other South pal Antonio was at today's joint practice between the Bucks and the Dolphins and sou head coach Mike McDaniel was not asked about tala's comments or Brian flores's response at mediate availability Wednesday but you had a chance to catch up with he and some Dolphins players earlier what did they say well two aonga io's teammates were not surprised by his rather pointed comments about his former head coach Brian Flores they said they understand what he went through they understand why he said what he said and that they have his back listen to this I know um from previous conversations you know some years back that he was going through a rough time rough patch but honestly that's that's in the win um and and he made those comments you know knowing that um he he just wants to get it out there you know that's his big his big thing and and he doesn't talk that much so when he does speak is with some volume any concern Mike that it will be a distraction for your football team absolutely not why not just because you way you know your team yeah I think well just the fact of you can't in in this world or in this league on a football team You Can't Hide And if your mind's somewhere else um you may not tell me but you'll show me you know McDaniel went on to say to me that he's got a lot of players on this team that if they see another player is distracted that they have the ability and the moral authority to step in as leaders and make sure that that distraction does not take place the Curious Thing about what tongoa said was not what he said but the timing of what he said right because Steven R the owner just said that this team has Super Bowl aspirations SL expectations he got the big contract in the offseason $200 million plus Brian Flores is gone in you know he's up in Minnesota he's gone for two years so it's all about the timing now tongoa did not talk today he was not scheduled to speak this week according to the Dolphins he is scheduled to speak next week so I'm sure one of the questions he's going to get is why now why speak up now now about Brian Flores yeah we'll read address that next week s thanks so much for your reporting Tua trying to build on a season in which he led the NFL in passing yards but it's been a night and day difference for Tu us since Mike McDaniel took over as head coach in 2022 in that time Tua ranks top five in the NFL in total qbr yards per attempt and passing touchdowns with numbers all distinctly better than his first two seasons which of course came under Brian Flores Booger McFarland joining us now but Jee I want to go to you first you are very close to this situation in Miami what's been your takeway from all this I would just say that I think the timing of it to Sal's point is probably the most peculiar part and perhaps it simply is to a tongue of ioa feeling as comfortable in his own skin as ever between the fact that he has a coach who empowers him and now a contract that also empowers him but uh it's not really up for us to decide why Tua chose right now it's it's merely about uh I guess talking about what he said and and I will say this when Brian Flores was fired this was a main part of the reason why the Dolphins chose to fire him Steven Ross the team owner even pulled to a side afterwards and said we did not do right by you with Brian Flores uh we are going to get this right and the one thing I'd finally add on this is I I I keep hearing this distinction made about well uh you know some coaches coach hard I would say when it comes to Tua this is not merely about him just taking hard coaching uh he he was coached under Nick Sabin I think that he is capable of taking hard coaching Brian Flores before Tua arrived and after he was drafted did not want Tua Tonga vioa as his quarterback it was not simply hard coaching it was a coach who did not want Tua on his team yeah Jeff and I think that's what we all realize and and and I give Brian Flores a lot of credit not for doing what he did and what he said and what text to TU but for understanding that he's got to change if you listen to his comments he talked about uh that tua's words that he was a terrible person those words hurt him and I think that Brian Flores understands now that how he coached Tu particularly how he coached the quarterback position is not how you can coach certain guys and I think he's got to realize that now if it were me a defensive tackle yeah you probably could have said that to me because my psyche is not predicated likely on my mental mind State and how I play I'm trying to go out C ball hit ball but when you play a quarterback position that that is predicated on thinking and processing information you need confidence and Tua needed that if he didn't get that from Brian Flores so hopefully when this is all said and done Tu understands that there was no harm intended that Brian Flores was really trying to show trying to coach him really really hard and that didn't work with t and if you're Brian Flores I truly hope that you've learned that there's more than one way to coach certain players and I think now especially in 2024 with this young a new a generation you have to do things differently that's yeah I see things largely the same way booger does in terms of I was really impressed by how Brian Flores handled it he owned it and said hey I have to get better and that was very impressive that's indicative of a growth mindset and I had the privilege of working with Rex Ryan amongst many coaches in my career and he always used the saying players don't care how much you know until they know how much it care and I think what coach Flores is going to learn is that there's a lot of different ways to reach different players and if he could go back four or five years and restart his relationship with Tua maybe invest in that relationship before you try to coach him hard and I think what we'll see is a better Brian Flores moving forward and I think the way he handled the press conference yesterday was a really good first start you know the only thing I'd say about that is if Brian Flores was surprised about Tu aunga Vala's comments or feelings uh he has had his head in the sand since the moment he was fired it's part of the reason that he was fired his record did to be fired it was his treatment of tuatonga VOA large in part which reported at the time if you're if you're fired because of your treatment towards somebody and then two years later you act surprised by that that's my only I would say question about that this is not a surprise to Brian Flores yes hopefully it is a teachable moment but it should have been a teachable moment the second he was fired for his treatment of a player margins We Know listen I I would definitely agree with you on that I I don't know if B Flo was surprised by maybe of the timing that it came out now and I don't really think that Tu meant to say I think Tu was asked a question and he answered Dan labar's question honestly and and and and for me I give to a lot of credit for answering the question honestly I don't think be Flo was surprised that it came out which is probably why he didn't come out and refute it because he knows it happened he tried to come out be remorseful say you know what T I hope things are going well I'm happy for him now and I think to my te's point that's a Grove mindset understanding what happened I'm not going to spute tua's words I'm going to acknowledge and I'm going to hopefully be better in the future 18 days until the regular season kicks off for both of these teams and ESPN bet for what it's worth has Miami plus 200 to win the AFC East just behind Buffalo and the Jets the Cowboys open the season looking to be the first NFC East repeat winners in 20 years recent history is not on their side and presently the topic of conversation has been Dak Prescott CD L still awaiting contract extensions Jerry Jones said this with regards to talks with lamb we're in good shape there and uh we are having promising talks say well why you keep talking won't you do something again as in anything it takes both of you there at the same time uh but I believe it's got the proper amount of everything emphasis importance for everybody involved here and we'll see how it goes not to put words in your mouth you're optimistic something will be done well I think I am uh and I when I say that doesn't sound too promising uh the facts are that I believe we'll come together I don't want to speak for him that's what I'm trying not to do uh but we wouldn't have offered him what we've offered him if he didn't want him to be here uh Mike tanon bom you're former GM we keep hearing this contract is close you've been in discussions like these what could be the holdup at this point great question it could could be things like how much is guaranteed or things like cash flow but this deal should have been done months ago the Cowboys have cost himself millions and millions of dollars from a lack of strategic plan meaning they could have gotten this deal done back when Devonte Adams was at the top of the market at $28 million now they're going to be somewhere in the mid-30s for a core player that they hit on in the first round and you should get in a room tell the agent like look we're not leaving until this deal is done maybe the agent wins on threee cash the club wins on 5year cash there's enough ways to get this deal done this is a very defined Market from Amaral St Brown to Jaylen wad to Tyreek Hill all the way up to Justin Jefferson of all the issues that are out there in the NFL this is the one that should be the most solvable and easiest to get done and we keep seeing the the price go up also at quarterback deck Prescott in a similar scenario Jerry Jones had an interesting response about talks with his QB you know one of the things things that I I would like for our fans to really understand is that uh nine times out of 10 these are existing contracts that you have in place and uh you should be able to operate under those but uh we've gotten it now in the NFL other teams are are dealing with it where with time on the contract you still might have a contract uh discussion and that's what we're doing uh but none of us player our teams wanted to hurt the preparation or the likelihood of playing at your best opening day booger you're you're a former player what do you make of this position taken here by Jerry Jones yeah I I think I understand what Jerry's saying he's basically saying honor the contract and and and when we decide to give you a new contract we'll do that that's what he kind of means when he says there's time left on the contract which is true but in this NFL and mik te can definitely speak to this you don't let your franchise quarterback who you think's going to be your quarterback for a long time get to the last year of his deal because that's almost saying he's a lame duck quarterback oh by the way you have a lan duck head coach so Jerry is doing what he's doing for a particular reason why he's doing it I don't know and to the CD lamb of it all I think I have an idea of why this deal hasn't got done yet guys it's because I think CD lamb and his representation want to be the highest paid wide receiver in football we know Justin Jefferson is at $35 million a year and if CD lamb and I believe his representation is Tory Dandy if they feel like they should be the highest paid receiver in football they want $1 more than Justin Jefferson and maybe Jerry says you know what we're not willing to give you $1 more than Justin Jefferson as far as Dak Prescott if I was Dak I wouldn't sign any contract until after the season is over because you can then dictate the market and be an unrestricted free agent they can't tag him he can hit the open market and for the first time maybe ever that I can remember we see a top 10 to 12 quarterback on the open market still in his prime and I think every one would want to want to know what Dak Prescott would command Jeff Dak led the NFL with touchdowns 36 of them last season what do you make of all this well I would just say that you know it's most interesting to me hearing Mike tanon bomb talk about the negotiations because like from my understanding they're not there yet when it comes to structure or length or average per year but I I would actually I'm curious if Mike can answer this like you've been in a room before how quickly can you get all of those things on the same page because to me it doesn't just feel like it's a situation where uh you know obviously there's a leverage situation here whether it's a disagreement on how much or how long but also it feels like a timing situation I mean is this the type of thing that could get done in literally two hours yeah absolutely Jee and basically you know if you really want to get a deal done you throw out the high and J Jefferson you throw out another deal on the other side and you split the difference and say 33.5 million over 5 years and then maybe the player gets a little bit more in the guaranteed money so both people could leave the room saying hey quote unquote I got what was most important to our side and and yes it could be done within a couple of hours look the paperwork at this point is pretty perfunctory so again this deal should be done there is a landing spot where both sides could feel good about it and based on how well he's played in his production Dallas to me again guys cost themselves millions of dollars by waiting knowing that the market was only going to go up at this position in the 2024 off seon and for all the winning quarterbacks they've had in Dallas Dak is the first to lead the NFL in touchdown passes since Roger stach in 1973 was in on everything you can about Tyreek Hills apparent hand wrist thumb something injury yeah I'm really good at THB War he lost back here on NFL live as much as we'd like to think Hills injuries Jeff darlington's a result of losing a thumb war what's the actual story here oh thank you Mike McDaniel for your constant attempts sometimes successful sometimes noted humor but let's talk about Tyreek Hill because he is dealing with a thumb injury that did keep him off the practice field at least in the team portion at these joint workouts and that will remain the same while they do continue to practice against the Buccaneers in Tampa but uh Mike McDaniel pointing out this is very precautionary it's basically just trying to let these injuries not get away from themselves maybe cause any kind of further injury so basically we could consider this essentially a rest day for Tyreek Hill nothing to worry about especially for all you fantasy football managers Brandon auk on the other hand still questions about him and whether he'll wind up starting the season week one for the 49ers now we had reports of course last week that the Steelers had trade agreements in place with the 49ers that if the 49ers wanted to pull the trigger on those they could and yet we still remain at a standstill the 49ers still want to find a way to get auk under contract for them this season we will continue to monitor this and see how it plays out Jamar chase another wide receiver trying to get that contract and as a result not on the practice field Chase especially interesting because he still has two years remaining on his deal so it's not the same as say CD lamb or Brandon iuk who will hit free agency next year instead Chase with two years left which usually makes it a little tougher to get that new contract the Bengals making it clear they would rather not do it right now but Jamar Chase saying no no you're going to do it right now so we'll see where that standoff eventually plays out as well and value is evident there for Cincinnati Chase one of four receivers ever with 80 catches a th000 yards each of his first three seasons but Cincinnati's the only team other than case to rep the AFC in the Super Bowl since Chase got drafted and ESPN analytics say the Bengals have the fourth best odds this year to win the AFC behind only the Chiefs Ravens and bills hopes and truth that hinge on the man under Center who at 27 is already thinking how many Super Bowl runs he'll ultimately get Joe for the shotgun snap [Music] touchdown perfect throw let's put it in my hands Trey it's over the thing about time is that we're always running out of it football much like life is defined by two dates when you're drafted and when you retire but it's the dash where forever lives Joe burrow has been thinking a lot about that Dash lately whenever the injuries start to stack up your football mortality kind of comes into the back of your mind so that's definitely something that I've thought about and something that I've had to to fight through Gladiators rarely control their own destiny and burrow understands this reality all too well bur is down and he's grabbing his left knee and he's in pain Joe burrow is walking into the locker room two seasons derailed by Injury One season a heartbreaking AFC title loss the other perhaps an Aaron Donald pass rush away from calling himself Champion a play away from heaven and a play away from hell that's how quickly and how painfully life happens in the NFL Windows my whole career things are going to change year to year but our Windows always open entering his Fifth Season at 28 years old the future is still blindingly bright for burrow but the future never announces when it becomes the past it just happens impending Health if the Bengals are to compete for just that burrow adding an VP to go along with his Heisman isn't unrealistic at all either sacked by who else but miles Garrett but the division is always a gauntlet the conference is tougher and there's still that momes guy playing gatekeeper the Journey won't be easy because true immortality never is BR throws deep down field touchdown to Jamar Chase and The Hourglass of Life timeouts or spiking the ball just doesn't exist exist sand is always falling seconds are always sprinting in Seasons well the games are long but the seasons are short whenever you fight through adversity and come out on the other side it definitely gives you a feeling of invincibility at times you know that that is not the case you know I've always prided myself on my mental toughness to be able to push through pain and push through those injuries Joe burrow is on the clock but then again aren't we all hey I only have 25 seconds to read this studio move so I'll Hustle the Bengals turned over a good portion of the roster of the offseason adding Sheldon rankins Gino Stone on defense along with Zach Moss Mike giki and a first round pick am Marius Mims on offense but they traded Away Joe Mixon and let chidobe uer DJ reer Tyler boydd and Jonah Williams all leave in free agency booger you got some like for likee positional swaps for a team that had a porous o line at times last season the corners at times gave up a disproportionate amount of big plays what must happen for cinty to contend this season in the AFC I think the biggest thing is going to be healthwise and I'll start on the offensive side with Joe burrow and they obviously they got to get Jamar Chase and T Higgins has to stay healthy Joe burrow has proven he's the one quarterback that can line up and go Toe totoe with the best in the National Football League whether that's Patrick Mahomes Lamar Jackson Josh Allen it doesn't matter and the confidence that Joe burrow gives his team exudes through that entire football team defensively I think we all trust Lanna rumo their end hover and Hendrickson I think combined are one of the best pairs of ends in the National Football League Luanna rumo understands how to get after people on the defensive side of the football so I think the combination of Zack Taylor the head coach and the efficiency that he runs at offense with Joe burrow staying healthy and Lou anarumo on defense I think if they feel like they can get to the postseason with that Triumph front healthy and physically and mentally ready to go they can beat anybody you know bug the definition of greatness is can you make those around you better and you go back a couple years ago Patrick Mahomes lost Tyreek Hill and they went on and still won the Super Bowl and you look at the defections that this team had on offense in particular when you think about Joe Mixon and Tyler Boyd they lost 36% of their offense when those two players departed in terms of scrimmage yards look I think they have plenty of weapons to make it up with um I really like Germaine Burton their third round pick I'd like the drafting of Marius mims in the first round to help the line but Joe burrow is really what's going to have to make up for those defections and he's going to have to play at his highest level for this team to be successful which I think he can be but obviously it's going to be Paramount that he starts all 17 games this season and Joe burrow to return to that 2022 performance Mike Al just read the topic bar that was on screen his qbr ranked in the bottom half amongst qualified starters just fractions of a point ahead of Russell Wilson last in qbr last season that was Z out of the mile high city the Broncos their fans the franchise they hope they found their QB of the future and first round pick Bo Knicks and today Shawn pyton named the rookie as Denver starter week one in Seattle Booger McFarland back with us here as well booger what are your expectations for this offense Year One with Nicks under Center well I think my expectations are exactly what Shawn Peyton sees in BO Knicks he thinks that b Knicks is going to be his version of Drew Brees which is somebody can get the football out efficiently short to intermediate that can be accurate that can throw the football with preciseness they can get his team in the right football plays and to make sure that they can move an offense efficiently Shawn Peyton is one of the great play callers that this league has ever seen he just needs a quarterback that can think like him and oper the offense and by all accounts out of all the quarterbacks in this year's draft he handpicked BS based on everything that he saw based on high efficiently he threw the football at Oregon based on his maturation based on his level of experience having played so many years in college football I think I expect him to operate this offense efficiently because that's what Shawn pyton expects and let's hope if you're a Bronco fan he can be the second coming if not close to second coming of Drew Brees well you want to start talking Elite quarterbacks he is the first rookie to start in week one for Denver since John Elway 1983 the Jets have quarterback settled though participation was limited in 2023 they hosted the Giants today in a joint practice before their preseason head-to-head Saturday metti Jets backup Tyrod Taylor got primary reps Tuesday rest day for starters he looked sharp but Aaron Rogers was back in the saddle Wednesday and Robert Salah gave us an update on what he's seen so far from his qb1 felt like he was where we needed him when he first walked in I'm tell his arm is 30 you guys see him every day his arm is still 30 and he's got plenty of Mobility he showed that in Carolina uh getting out of the pocket several time several times he doesn't in practice depending on how you look at preseason what's better a 10-play preseason rep because you want to get him out there for a couple series or a 40 playay practice where they're grinding on one another um that's the discussion it's a discussion will further right now Mike tanon bomb that the Jets had a few changes to the offensive line Rogers had hasn't taken any snaps competitively since the first quarter of the first game last season how important is it to you for Rogers to play in Saturday's preseason finale Phil in my opinion very important he hasn't taken snaps like you said since September 11th of last year when he took four snaps they open up on the road in San Francisco Monday Night Football on the ESPN against a ferocious 49er pass rush led by Nick Bosa in our sport oneth of a second could be the difference between a sack a throwaway and until you get in those competitive situations you're really not going to know you can look at Russell Wilson this preseason he just doesn't look the same coming out from under Center uh in Pittsburgh and to me if I'm Nathaniel hacket the offensive coordinator Phil I want to see an Rogers in game situations we may go out to San Francisco and say guess what we can only Max protect we can only use Quick game because I'm not confident that Aaron Rogers is going to be quick enough to avoid their pass rush especially on the road so from a strategic standpoint I want to see this offense this rebuilt offensive line with a 40-year-old quarterback coming off of an Achilles injury in live situation so not only is it good for Aaron roders but from a strategy and game plan standpoint if I'm Nathaniel Hackett I definitely want to see them out there for a series or two it's really good point Mike because uh as someone who always thinks like ah he doesn't need to play in the preseason and that's kind of what I would subscribe to at this point I will tell you that from what I understand about Aaron Rogers play is that his arm looks ridiculous that he looks amazing at throwing the football and this is not a criticism but um someone I was talking to said does he look like a little less evasive a little less uh Speedy as he once did outside of the pocket perhaps uh that's not to say that once the season picks up that he won't just pick that speed up as well but to your point if that has anything to do with the Achilles or simply aging uh that is probably something that the Jets need to know so it certainly is a good point to make about considering whether he does play in the preseason but I can tell you at least from an arm standpoint everybody out at Jets camp right now is saying that he looks absolutely ridiculous when it comes to throwing the football here's what I would say about playing in the preseason the team that's going for a three in a row in in Kansas City Chiefs they play their players in the preseason and last time I checked football was a contact Collision Sport and if the quarterback drops back and there is not the thought in his head that he could get his head knocked off he's not playing football he's playing seven on seven so you have to step on the field and know that at any moment you could get your block knocked off and Aaron Rogers can only get that in the game that's why he needs to play you you can't get that feeling at practice Rogers is doing all that he can to highlight the intensity of the Jets practice mentioning that this training camp has been one of the hardest of his career and Robert solah was asked about those comments today we made an effort to to kind of be a little bit more efficient in how we work day-to-day and with our guys and uh uh because of it our workload is significantly more this year than it's been in the past we're not trying to revisit the junction boys but at the same time this country club style that's kind of taking on all of sport not just football but all of sport um there's a fine line they they've got to be ready to play football so I don't know boo Salah could Rock a hound to if he wanted what do you think about his tougher approach to this year's Camp well basically what he's saying is we're actually going to have real training camp you know the CBA came out with a bunch of rules to take away what the the training camp that I'm used to which is two of a both practices and Full Pass which is grinding on your team getting your team mentally and physically tough for the season that's what the Kansas City Chiefs do they go away they don't want to be around anybody they want to grind Andy Reid is known as one of the coaches that still has the toughest training camp and you wonder why his teams get better and better throughout the season so I love what Robert Salah is saying it's a physical training camp we're going to grind on them a little bit that's what training camp is supposed to do it's supposed to prepare you for the regular season this is not a country club where you come in and you're like Jeff Darlington and mik te you're sipping on uh you know uh pina coladas and laying low like we're actually getting some work done you got to get work done in training camp I don't want to be Mike T I don't want to be Jeff darington down in Miami on the beach with I don't want to do that I want to be ready to play football I got something to say I got a question I just have one question B Bo no no no hold on I got mine first was was Bo was a little late today did you play old memorial were you golfing right before the show that's I'll check the t- sheet no I actually wasn't golfing today now normally I would be I actually had I was in Carline today I wasn't late the show started early let's let's let's make sure we correct that yeah shouts to I just want to be really clear about that Phil I hey Phil I just want to be really clear about that three of us were ready to go early and the one guy who called out Jeff and I was on time even though the show started earlier speaking of country clubs this dude lives at the Country Club I didn't want to hear a b you live at the Country Club back here on NFL live Lamar Jackson is 5819 in the regular season second best in the league since he debuted in 2018 behind only Patrick Mahomes but that success has yet to translate to the postseason two and4 in his career in the playoffs 0 And1 in the conference title game of the 10 QBs to win multiple MVPs Jackson's the only one below 500 in the postseason Lamar addressed the doubters this week on Mad Dog radio I mean I'm you know I'm motivating myself uh because I know what I want to do at the end of the day you know those guys had their time you know I can't I really don't care what what the criticism is you know what the critics say because at the end of the day you know I just came off a a season in the injury the year before and we made it all the way to the AFC in the new system you know so it's nothing to be doubting myself my teammates or anything like that you know cuz we made it far you know we just got to keep going and you know God's will we'll be there you know cuz that that's our goal you know we criticize we criticize ourselves more than anyone else so what what people see on the outside that's just that's just their takes Mike tanon bomb this team's won a trio of Divisions with Lamar Jackson AFC one seed I believe twice they've only reached one AFC Championship Game how can this Ravens team finally get over the hump in the playoffs be successful running the ball when the opponent knows you're going to be running it last year Phil the Baltimore Ravens blew three fourth quarter leads and I think Derek Henry is the perfect player for this it's the old axium pass the score and run to win the best teams I was on in my career we were able to finish games by securing the line scrimmage and running the ball when our opponents knew it was coming and that's really the mindset of what John Harbaugh wants to do that physicality and Derrick Henry to me will have the ability for them to finish games in a way they haven't been able to do in the last couple years you know I agree with you on Derrik Henry I think he's going to be that finisher the guy that can kind of run the four-minute offense but I think in order for this team to get over the hump their best players have to play their best at crunch time and their best player is Lamar Jackson like he's got to be that Dynamic guy with the ball in his hand and that's not just throwing the football that is getting outside of the pocket running the football making plays like the the difference between Peak Lamar Jackson and Peak Patrick Mahomes guys it's not a ton we've seen Patrick play his best though at the most crucial times in the postseason in the biggest games Lamar Jackson can do the same thing and I expect him to do that and so if they can get to the postseason healthy and can run the football Derrik Henry I think is going to help him but at at the end of the day Lamar Jackson has to be that special dude with the ball in his hands if he's that they can beat anybody in football I yeah I think you nailed it bog and the one thing I'd say too is I I don't view their season last year as a failure by any means I view their final game against the Chiefs as the ultimate failure and to me that's when they got away from what they are and what they do best they didn't allow Lamar Jackson or Lamar didn't allow himself to kind of go into that video game mode and do his thing it was almost like if were like we're going to win this game by passing the football and we're going to show everybody we can do that as opposed to just finding a way to win and to me this team is once again set up to make that type of a run I I'm like I'm very bullish on the Baltimore Ravens I do not think last year was a failure I think their final game was the ultimate failure booger I want to I want to follow up on one point this is a team that lost multiple starters on the o line their backup center left town Lamar Jackson's talking about losing weight do you make of hit that transformation given the pieces that they're replacing well there three guys on this screen and I'm going to speak for the other two I think we could all send to lose a few pounds so I have no problem with Lamar Jackson losing a little weight I think that's going to add add added quickness and some durability to him and the offensive line I think is going to be fine there's a saying in there that says play like a raven I don't ever worry about the toughness or the physicality of this team and again losing weight never hurt anybody it's good to be a little healthy you know you holidays right around the corner getting ahead of the curve with the extra pounds and kilos to come time now for one more thing on the heels of the ESPN f spe e for for e for for for back for fore for [Applause] is for e for for to look come somebody be [Music] back