Classic loading [Music] Show starts [Music] good morning sweet world and welcome to the no dunks podcast on the athletic Network it's Thursday September 5th 2024 I'm J SKS here in the classic Factory and alongside me back from the Florida Panhandle it's Tas melis podcast listeners this is for you next to him it's the bearded one in the peaw Hat Trey Kirby hey hey and Over Yonder making the magic happen it's our guy Esa kid how yall doing what's up ash good to have the boys back here in the factory shout out to everyone joining us live right now on YouTube We love to see it hit the like button subscribe share the show podcast listeners five star ratings and reviews we're actually talking about basketball here today hey but make sure you check out Tuesday's podcast where Trey Kirby gave us a detailed review of Shaquille O'Neal's 2022 cookbook Shack's family style uh we had a blast that was all Giggles in this one very fun I couldn't believe the things you were showing me from this book I'm still convinced you wrote half of them yourself it was like say what yeah I guess there's no way to check uh but it's true win or lose more say sandwiches yeah did you get a chance to watch or listen to to this one cuz you know obviously your wife has her own cookbook I was wondering maybe Danielle could rip up we did a dual watch we were watching together and she was hoping that food would just appear on the table Yeah Nora was a little upset when I came back how how' it go I said oh great you know Trey really did a lot of work in this one she's like what' he bring in what did he make I like well he didn't make anything she's like what been a good idea what the hell he didn't bring you one dish from the book I was like yeah well he's a busy man I should have made a banana pudding and brought it in yeah those are big down here true true anyway go check that out it's up on YouTube it's obviously in the podcast video we had a blast looking at Sha's cookbook I got to say I had the banana milkshake at Chick-fil-A that they just came out with not good I was disappointed I believe everything Chick-fil-A went down to Florida everybody believes in Chick-fil-A I just I bought one for my kid I I kind of forced her to get one cuz I wanted some but I didn't want to buy it was bad what's up Chick-fil-A Chick-fil-A is just good it's just good I didn't even know that was a new item it's yeah that sounds like something they would have had for since their Inception new don't get it does not come recommend it from tasm or his family Shaq wouldn't even like it oh no I guess I he he wouldn't he doesn't like uh foods that are combinations of foods so a banana plus a milkshake no way banana good milkshake good never the twain shall meet nope nope great Point uh okay we're actually talking about the NBA a little bit here today later on we'll hit the beach you guys send in some questions some nbish some not we'll have some fun F there but bunch of extensions I want to throw at you guys now this one the big one happened last week it was the Warriors signing Steph Curry to a one-year extension or 62.6 million which will keep the legend under contract with golden state through the 26 27 season um Steph Curry signs 1-year, $62.6M extension with Warriors were you shocked at all by this news last week the signing of the extension here for Steph Curry and the Warriors I always felt he was going to be a Golden State Warrior for life this just stamps it with approval that's going to happen and then you just look at the years this is going to put him into his 18th year in the NBA and I just started to look at everything I started to watch his old videos where he was asked as a rookie hey what are you going to be in 10 years and he said well I want to be a professional I want to be in the league well he did pretty damn well set the bar low yeah he said that so much so long ago he's now through 15 years he's a 10 time Allstar if you want to get to the 10 and uh he's going to play with one team a superstar playing with one team doesn't happen all that often but there's no way he's being moved he's already talking about potentially owning a team at some point so this is just Steph is going to be a Golden State Warrior for Life period done you believe that I do believe that and I was still a little bit surprised because there was the interview that Steph gave over the summer where he was basically saying I don't want to be an also ran I don't want to be a bottom feeder here the Warriors aren't that right now but they're not a championship favorite right now and they're probably still a few moves away uh you saw you heard the buzz of like I had such a great experience playing with LeBron it'd be great to have those experiences again whether we're teammates or not so I guess he just wants to hang out but with uh you know the changing of the Instagram how excited he was playing through the Olympics uh with LeBron there was at least breadcrumbs uh for other players like if other players were doing this you would have surely been thinking uh oh something is up but then Steph Curry comes through and signs a $62 million extension you need a lot of millions of dollars if you're going to buy a basketball team some so I don't know is this like Steph looking at the end of his career now right because yeah Tak him through 39 years old right cuz signing this extension you know you lock yourself up to the Warriors in theory is he giving up like Leverage here to the front office or is the flip side of it in him signing the extension it's like hey dun Ley and Co that's off your table I'm here for life now try and make the roster better which they've tried to do here obviously in the off season they lose Klay Thompson but buddy hee's here Kyle Anderson here the Anthony Melton obviously they're hoping some of their young guys still sort of level up a two one or two levels um but yeah may I don't know which side you look at it like o did Steph like does he is he just happy to end his career in Golden State and if they're V you know competing for the eighth or ninth seed he's content with that or is this like in a weird way the opposite like hey I'm good now you go do your part at the end of my career because I've obviously proven I'm still an all NBA Talent he's going to stay there and they're going to try and put another player around they tried really hard this summer it's Paul George Lowry Markin anybody and then they go get their DeAnthony Melton and their buddy hee and they Kyle Anderson it's fine it's not great uh but I think he's saying 18 years here till I'm 39 at the very least I guess it just means that LeBron has a chance of leaving I think there's more of a chance of Lebron leaving La than there is of Steph Curry leaving Golden State because that's a worst situation uh in La even though he's got Anthony Davids and he's playing with his damn son uh I don't know I think it's a worse situation than Golden State it's kind of hard to say but I think they have a little bit more of the uh the complimentary players around but I don't know maybe the Steph Draymond thing ends at some point maybe that can't go on forever but I think Steph is just being a little Tim Duncan has being a little Durk right I ain't going anywhere and I I don't think they're trading him but 39 now seems young right maybe he plays does he's gonna be done at 39 yeah tapping out early you're telling me Steph Curry couldn't be a bench guy until he's 45 years old as the best shooter around his contract extension now does line up with draymond's last season with the Warriors should he choose uh to pick up his player option during that for that 2627 season that's one season past Steve Kerr we've been talking about the Last Dance For The Warriors for multiple Seasons here I think 2027 is the last of the last dances yeah and for those curious he was only eligible to sign a one-year extension this offseason due to the NBA's over 38 rule which prevents teams from offering contracts of four years or more to players who are or will be 38 years old during that final uh part of the deal there so that's why it could only be this onee extension but for now he's locked up here for three years with golden state um and we'll see what they can do we'll get into obviously talking about the Warriors and all these teams in the Western Conference and in the NBA and looking at their over unders and trying to figure out uh where they're all land because you know you're right you can sort of talk yourself in with especially with what just saw Steph do in the Olympics there's no doubt that plays a part like damn why couldn't they still be good sort of an elite team in the Western Conference but then they haven't been they lose clay and you're like I don't know maybe they are still fighting for a playing spot right right you can sort of run I don't know you can put them anywhere I feel like sure and they've got some good supporting players that we mentioned those guys to come in for this year the thing that you can take note of is all those guys are off the books after next year so two years of Steph Draymond and Andrew Wiggins under contract but beyond that it's single digits like nobody's making more than 10 million besides those three guy besides Curry Wiggins and green for those two final years of the curry green last dance as you called the try which is what it is slow song yeah lights lights are on I think play another one Play Eddie Money they're waiting for the Uber I think for sure all right other extension news uh TJ McConnell signed a 4-year $45 million extension with the Indiana Pacers over the last couple days uh TK uh how do you feel about this deal T.J. McConnell signs 4-year, $45M extension with Pacers for TJ and good value deal here for the Pacers what do you think well I think this is awesome for TJ McCollum TJ McCollum TJ McConnell guy went from being a process sixer undrafted lost 30 of his first 31 games in the NBA he played on the 15 16 Sixers and they were 10 and 72 terrible team he's locked in to make $85 million in his career as a backup point guard for basically the entire time that's amazing yeah I like the deal for the Pacers as well I mean who who knows if TJ McConnell is worth $10 million when he's a 37 year old but he's a good culture guy and I kind of feel the same way with all the Pacers deals they've made this season like pretty good but then you throw them all together and you're like okay you got the same team for the next three seasons will it get better than it did last year when everything broke perfectly they made the Conference Finals they won a game seven in Madison Square Garden like they won important games they seize the opportunity but they're not going to have cap space Miles Turner as a free agent next off seon probably one of the biggest names out there depending on who does player options and not Ben mathan's going to be extension eligible it's kind of hard to see this team getting a lot better it's going to be some of their young guys none of whom are all that great so far getting better that's the pathway to improving but I don't know it's the Pacers they like to make the playoffs they're not going to spend a ton of money they don't want to be the worst team in the league so they're going to probably be in the middle in the Eastern Conference yeah they really do believe in that guard run that they send out there because as you said Ben Maan can be signed um and T.J McConnell is your backup you've got Halburn you've got nard who you signed I think they're running the same team essentially out there as you said with hopes that nard will be better uh I mean specifically Ben Maan will be better and then jerus Walker will turn into a player because he was drafted last year so yeah it's the running the same guys low minutes really cuz they think they have enough depth and they're just going to run it down your throat so you've got a guy in TJ McConnell here who can play under 20 minutes again for every single season it's an incredible season for this guy because leading up to the trade deadline I thought he's gone because those guys that I mentioned in nart halberton matth those guys are ahead of him in the guard rotation and they still are but he ended up being awesome and I didn't think he was on the timeline but I suppose he is he's 32 going to be playing till he's 36 or 37 and all those guys I mentioned with halberton and sakam at the top that's who they are um and they're a rick Carla team that's going to play very fast and try and just outscore teams and hope those the younger guys in matth and jerus Walker are a little bit better I don't know if they resign Miles Turner I mean he was important um after next year but yeah it seems like they're paying they're paying Halbert and seak a ton of money 90 million bucks in 25 and 26 and then it goes up and up and up and up that's third guy I guess that's still available as an option um but it could be Ben how do they get him is the question yeah not as a free agent yeah I think it's more likely they're hoping one of their guys is their their third Superstar one of these younger guys turns it in but then they're paying all guards that's the thing right like starting next uh not this coming season but the next season between halberton n hard and McConnell they're going to be paying $75 million to their point guards specifically they traded for Pascal cakam signed him to a four-year deal he accelerates their timeline since he's already in his 30s he's on a huge deal they're going to have to pay ma if they want to keep him around they're going to be capped out so they're going to have to pay Miles Turner unless somebody else offers him a better deal he's been trying to get out of Indiana for a decade it feels like so I don't know um think they need a lot of and that's why like now I look back I'm like why' they do the OB toin deal doesn't make any sense you're right for them to take this a next step forward jarus Walker has to turn into something he was a top 10 pick he I think he was number eight barely played last year now he's got Obi toppen ahead of him for the next four years making 18 to2 million where's the opportunity then for jarus Walker it just seems like they're signing their guys they're keeping them around because they don't have a better plan available right now yeah they are going small that's for sure who knows who plays center for them long term I guess it has to be Miles Turner because once you start thinking about it where's their def J Smith's gone they don't have a backup center M mhm yeah they they might lean into playing small or quick or whatever you want to call it especially with Turner being obviously a stretch 52 is their guy who didn't get minutes the good thing for them is uh you know even Halbert if you look at him what two years ago he played like under 60 games last year I think it was closer to 70 so it was a pretty healthy season until obviously we got into the playoffs at times where he was banged up a little bit but you have depth and look it's a long season and guys go down we saw it with just benedi mathan himself and and they can just sort of keep slotting guys in now do you run up to a certain like wall in the playoffs even though they went very far this year and maybe it broke their way um but I think a big part of it is the organization it's Indiana it's you know obviously not a huge place in terms of alluring free agents too you have to sort of do it this way you got to sign your guys to keep them and they have a good team this is a good team um are they a championship contending team are they going to win a game against the Celtics if they were to match up in a playoff series again uh maybe maybe not I don't know they're not there they're not on that level for sure Nicks got better Sixers got better people have to assume that the Bucks are going to be more cohesive at the very least than they were like last year this feels like a playoff team to me that's good for the Pacers but you know a lot of times people tell you they don't want to be caught in the middle I kind of disagree with that like it's fine to win games it's good to have a good team uh but I don't know I think that they are just a playoff team uh and if they get the right matchups they can beat the right uh they can beat certain teams uh final extension news here uh IIT zubats signed a three-year about $59 million extension with the Clippers the other day uh Ivica Zubac signs 3-year, $58.6M extension with Clippers Lawrence Frank said zoo is a rock for the Clippers organization quote he's an elite rim protector screen Setter and finisher who has made strides every season we don't take for granted that we can just pencil in our starting center and our defensive anchor every night every year so zubats uh signed up here for a couple more years under the clips Tass your reaction to this one yeah around $20 million seems like the Benchmark for every Center in the NBA that's how much you get paid if you're a starting center V makes $20 million exactly Jared Allen makes $20 million exactly for the next two years Miles Turner just under 20,000 $70,000 under 20 million excuse me yeah then you got AES Turner's making under 20,000 his agent sucks he's like a substitute teacher uh yeah there's a ton of guys that are around the $20 million Mark yakob purle very close Yousef nerkish really close capella Brook Lopez Claxton a little bit more than 20 mil but that's your benchmark and that's zubot he's job you lump his skill set and what he brings to the table with a lot of those guys it sounds like yeah there's there's topheavy guys that make a lot more than $20 million like yic and embiid and then there's the bottom guys like um Miles Turner who makes $20,000 that's it Daniel Ty Daniel T $2.8 million 2.8 million is a great deal for Daniel Ty to start the New Orleans Pelicans season it's a great deal he's going to be starting um but zubot fits the bill with a bunch of these guys as that middle the median centers in this leag he's he's good at that yes I don't know my perogies from my Kil basas marching gortak could tell you that if it's a zubot he's marching Gortat that's what that's my takeway after doing the Shaq cookbook he's a pretty good gatekeeper Center you listed all these guys who are $20 million a year centers some of them you would rather have than zbots some of them you would not rather have than zubot like ni vich uh but he's reliable he's going to get you 10 and 10 every night he's going to shoot 65% from the field if it's the right matchup he can stay on the court in the playoffs if it's not he's going to be sitting down because the Clippers are a team that goes five out all the time good chemistry with Harden I think he's a fair player just a nice guy he's probably like number 15 starting center yeah I think he's really well-liked it feels like in the lock room in the organization or wherever he's been um he's only been in LA right he's only played for the Lakers and Clippers yeah he like I'm not leaving La I building this year I was sort of surprised when I was looking at I was like he played really well in that six game first round loss to the Mavericks um average 16 and 10 shot 60% from the floor sort of exactly what you said TK but that's that's good it's not great but he's not hurting you obviously is a a decent defensive Center too so yeah they lock him up here you know they've had a weird offseason I think they're a team people are struggling to figure out the Clippers obviously Paul George leaves so you're immediately like okay they're going to be worse but then they brought in you know some someon n Chris dun a mo bomba what how much do he make not a lot okay um but yeah and they did their draft thing it's really a team that's got wings now that aren't named Paul George but can play defense um so it's it's an interesting team interesting team yeah I got I mean I got more faith in to talk about interesting to talk about you mean yeah not a watchable team for me well they do have Kawhi Leonard you don't like watching Kawhi Leonard is he going to play sure that's always the question he play games last year I never say I want to watch the Clippers cuz kawai's going to play tonight why not because you don't know if he's going to play tonight well he did play 68 games last year how he do in the playoffs well he played 68 games in the regular season I didn't say watch going to play that many this year because he wasn't ready for the playoffs so they should have him play 50 games so 32 of them he ain't going to be out there you're going to be watching Hardin and zubot pick and rolls it works nice they worked on it after practice he's going to be mad that they sent him home from the Olympics when he could have been on the team and sat on the bench probably you're calling for a Revenge season from Kawai here well I do find it interesting when he was asked about Paul George leaving he said doesn't change anything for me Lally what a what a shocking answer from Ka letter well he literally said I'm the number one guy essentially and not a number two guy I mean he did instead of him saying don't you think he should have said hey that guy's is leaving uh that sucks he's my my friend no matter what you said to quet he be like oh okay whatever hey man your dog just died that sucks okay hey man you just won a100 million Powerball okay that doesn't suck like he said something once he said a few things I've got his back as a as a a somewhat interesting player and man he's an awesome I love to watch Kawai when he is on yeah the court but when he's on and when he's on the court I do love to watch he's going to have a good year that's one thing zubot does bring you he's pretty he plays he does play yeah right for the clips for sure and then I just want to slip this in here uh just CU it's your Chicago Bulls uh free agent guard tail and Horton Tucker AKA Ahmad Rashad uh has agreed to a partially guaranteed deal with your Bulls yeah the Untouchable Tor Horton Tucker that's right tht baby to LeBron James's Throne once upon a time I saw the Bulls are going into a training camp with five Chicagoland players on the roster it's like IO Javon Carter buellis uh tht and then another guy who probably won't make the team it's just like the Raptors they're like oh you're from Canada you can come play on the Raptors oh you're from Chicago you're getting a try out with the bulls tht man how long has this guy been in the league has he been in the league since a mod he's super young still and he's one of the oldest looking guys out I think he's 23 young man 23 years old he looks very old he looks definitely older than 23 but he can't shoot so he fits in with Chicago yeah is this a is this a sag for flag type of type of move here I not even convinced he'll make the roster yeah okay it is a partial G it's like MC Mong also with the Orlando Magic going to get a chance here the Warriors are doing it with a couple guys uh I think Berton is going to get a try out or something is he I they're like yeah man you can work out here and we'll decide if we're you I can't tell what these reports from crazy times right now it is it is all right let's get off the extension talk let's uh unfortunately talk about young Memphis Grizzlies forward gii Jackson II he is expected to miss three months after undergoing successful surgery to repair a broken foot the team announced this on Grizzlies' GG Jackson II to miss at least 3 months after undergoing foot surgery Wednesday he suffered this injury while playing basketball in Dallas he broke the fifth metatarsal in his foot is that the bone that's like connecting the pinky to the ankle that what's going going on there is that the metatarsal I think it's um like the in like the InStep of your foot in between the ball and the heel okay okay well it's a broken foot we know that interesting it's pinky toe though right yes yes he's expected to make a full recovery um but how does this injury at if at all shift the outlook for the Grizzlies in your opinion well I think it sucks I think it really sucks for Memphis for two reasons first of all GG Jackson was like the best story for the Grizzlies last year getting him in the the second round looking like a player at the very least a rotation guy for Memphis maybe he could have started he would have fit in nice with ja Bane and then the big guys in Jackson and I'm guessing Edie like there's a spot there on the wing that the Grizzlies have been looking for I guess Marcus smartt is coming back to who knows what they're going to do at the very least he would have been getting minutes and looked like a player with a lot of room to grow he's only still 19 years old had a great year last year big strong dude but now he's not going to be playing till at least like Christmas time could be longer since it's a re-evaluation sort of deal after the 3 months or whatever it is so they're starting off on a bad literal on a bad foot right here after two straight lost Seasons we had 2223 was the jaw suspension season didn't go well uh in the playoffs for them either and then obviously everybody on Memphis got hurt last season we haven't seen a full strength Grizzlies team in basically two years and I was thinking they were going to be pretty good this year I mean if they lose their sixth or seventh man they can get over that Vince Williams was another solid player uh for the Grizz last year who I think will probably get more minutes now that GG Jackson is out but for a team that was banged up with injuries for the entirety of last season to lose like a little shred of Hope right when the season's getting going super disappointing yeah obviously you look at it and you say well this could be like last year where they had 33 guys play basketball for them that's a lot of guys however a lot of those guys are coming back and they want to play basketball again Brandon Clark is coming back he's going to play a lot of the four santiel damage you see in the Olympics he was awesome uh if Zack he plays the five JJ Jackson can be moveed jiren Jackson can be smooth down JJ Jackson you confused me whens J there's a lot of Jays there JG Jackson and jiren Jackson Jr wow I mean he can play the four that's a where GG played a lot of his minutes last year so there's a lot of guys and it is yeah it's a it's a bad look when you look at it right now but all these other guys are healthy and so that bodess well for this team this team is deep and I think they are going point you have a good season cuz of two straight bad years they got something to prove here yeah it's just unfortunate like TK said he averaged like 14 and four shot well too and that was like the big worry with him like ah can this guy shoot at all I mean he's a young kid shot 36% from Deep that's not bad 43% from the field like you were going to hope that was going to tick up he was really good at Las Vegas summer league too it looked you know it looked like one of those guys like oh okay he might maybe he's even too good for here um so that sucks but yeah is it Vince Williams is it smart what they do there Jake laravia is also guy that might you know get a little more opportunity to shine and and has played well at times so just a bummer that they're coming in here already with the young kid uh who was like their gem in the second round yeah he won like 45th or 46th something that and he's going to miss couple months couple months with that broken foot but he did it playing basketball better than doing something you know something really stupid or something you're like oh no why were you skateboarding just playing hoops man skate they have Clauses in their contracts to prevent them from doing that yeah he's I can't believe he's 19 years old I still I still can't even he the youngest player in the league last last year yeah and but he looked like a vet when he TNT had him on and Shaq was talking to him he looked like he was 30 I mean he just he acts like he's been there for a while and this Grizzly's team is they got something to prove obviously this year so he'll be back this kid will be back he's 19 so he means he heals really fast true true true all right let's hit the beach you got the bus I got the Rockets you got the nuts I got the Chocolat we got that [ __ ] Shack down pack blah blah blah you got that 30 special genes [ __ ] we're on the beach cuz it's the only place to read your emails and your tweets and your YouTube comments thanks to everybody uh for uh sending in your cues we got a good batch here some fun ones first one hey dunkies according to Andrew marshan of the athletic ever heard of it uh ABC ESPN has zeroed in on Who should ESPN pick as next NBA Finals commentator? four names to team with Mike Breen and Doris Burke on its top NBA broadcast obviously uh JJ reck is now coaching the Lakers so he is gone uh the four names are Jay Bas Grant Hill Richard Jefferson and Tim legler uh top four candidates for the job with the caveat that ESPN could opt for a booth of just Breen and Burke so they could just go twers Booth but maybe they'll go three I'm team legs writes this person uh but if you were in charge you're a legs person you're a legs man I'm team legs writes my dad watching Mary Hart on entertainment tonight but if you were in charge who would you pick cheers that's from tritto so tritto wants to know uh who are you picking of those four who wants to start this off I know we talked about this in the past a little bit um but who you going with do you see Mary Hart's legs on Entertainment Tonight she did did she have think had like a long shot you know like when they come in on the jib you could see like from a from a from a distance you would see those legs she standing or was it a desk a desk the visible desk huh I'd love those for men and women I want to see some shoes you want to see some shoes want don't cover us um who was it that came up at our live show where the heck were we were we in Salt Lake City a woman came up a fan of no dunks came up and had a question about like hey who's legs are better Faith Hill or Carrie Underwood Carrie Underwood yeah she asked all four of us didn't she at separate times canvas the crowd yeah yeah I think it was a a discussion she always had with her husband she was saying and she was team Carrie Underwood I remember I think that's right and I think I I apparently answered incorrectly I was I was like I don't know who you idiot she was really upset lost the fan that day so she would be team legs I for her name um under the desk but who you picking listen I do think Troy Zito is right in that ESPN will go with Tim legler I I think he is a bit of a replica of what they had with J.J reic he is good he's analytical he knows his stuff that being said I want jokes I miss the jokes I miss Jeff Van Gundy prior to JJ reck being in the NBA Finals I listen they they're great but I do like the Jefferson beside Doris Burke who's incredible herself let Doris go to commercials she sees the Highlight she can do she can do whatever she wants she's she's great at she can do the the the court tracking like JJ reck was talking about there's lots of analytics there I need jokes Richard Jefferson will come on and he's obviously a former player but I think they need to go younger and that's why they went JJ reck so I'm I am uh Team Jefferson but obviously legler is great too so I'm okay with both but I think the jokes have been missed that's what we said for every single reic broadcast I would think it just wasn't they weren't too too dry little too dry the jokes weren't there who you going with between team Jeff and team legs as well and I honestly think try them both like see what the chemistry is like with Doris Burke and Mike Breen decide further on into the season cuz I'm with you it's like you can go Richard Jefferson and you're getting the jokes you're maybe not necessarily getting the same insights you would get from Tim legler whereas Tim legler you're getting the insights are you getting the jokes who knows let's see which one works better put them both together I think Tim legler could become the new Zar of the telestrator however Mike forella was funny he was funny alongside being able to do his scribbles and stuff so I think there's that deep in Tim lear's bag but I'd like to see it uh you know because I I do think we got a little to um both JJ and Doris were just lowkey and I feel like legler kind of has the same lowkey to sort of energy whereas RJ can you know go up and down with sort of stuff yeah I'm I'm team RJ for the record but uh a good point about thear and he was funny with the telestrator but that also worked because him and Marv had undeniable chemistry and Marv is a he different than Breen I think he was a very he's sarcastic you know and he was quirky if I'm being honest in a good way uh he's a legend but um yeah I'm team I'd like to see Richard Jefferson I like what you said like this he is the youngest of the bunch here yeah um he's what he probably mid 40s or something like that so he's the he's the closest removed from the league from some of these players he also he has like I don't care attitude it doesn't he doesn't seem to care if he's going to upset someone on the broadcast call them out a little bit I think we could use a little bit more of that not not to be a hater but to you know not be worried about like stepping on somebody's toes because you said something yeah and they are definitely wanting to go younger that's why they they reliev Jeff Van Gundy who was just great and funny and had lot of lots of uh moments being jokey jokes with Mark Jackson and Mike Breen but then there were some jokey jokes between Doris Burke and JJ reick that time when JJ reic was talking about his wife Chelsea and said uh what was Doris's comment where she said UB hit a three or something I'm so pretty kiss me I'm so pretty and then and then J re said I would rather not or Chelsea's watching or something for that effect that was the B they got no time basically to build on that chemistry and their comfortable comfortability with each other to maybe add a little more humor and a little more personality that's the other part of this yeah first final thanks God and fire Jeff because they were worried he was going to take a coaching job H yes and was on ESPN last year this time oh my God that sounds weird we're like Doc and Doris in the finals that should be great man maybe just stick with b and Burke now I think about it cuz if you're in there you're going to be gone uh within months all right let's get to our next one fellow NBA sickos rank these achievements for any modern player in order of impressiveness now I found this very convoluted because not every player has achieved all of these achievements here Ranking random achievements for a modern player we go though winning All-Star MVP being on the cover of 2K winning most improved doing color commentary for the playoffs winning Conference Finals MVP winning an Olympic medal wow a lot of players have not been a color commentary anyway yeah but it's saying like what's what would be the most impressive if so so yes so just just period doing color commentary for the that one was not high for me I would say you have to for that one you have to include like making an appearance on the panel right like when they brought in Paul George yeah like Paul George that kind of thing cuz I'm with you you don't hear a lot of guys like just hop in and be the color commentator during the playoffs nobody anyway Paul Paul's going to the finals this year as a broadcaster right on the desk of the finals yeah in the pregame halftime or postgame okay that's what I think they meant erraticus Finch erraticus Finch what a name I think you're getting to the top of this B this billboard here look at look at the top of the erraticus finch that's just a great name I put it right to the top of the board but if you got rid of that one like the okay joining the table right in the finals I think and we all agreeing that one I would have my last one and then okay and then let's let's build up then okay so if that's the bottom what was next like least impressive to you on my list I put cover of NBA 2K now interesting but you could you could pitch me up baby well I I immediately thought that too I was like okay being on the cover of 2K like okay whatever I think winning an Olympic medal or winning Conference Finals MVP is pretty it's more impressive but then you're like hold on who's on the cover of 2K your last seven NBA athletes on 2K covers Tatum Kobe Booker Luca Dame Anthony Davis and Giannis point being here I mean you're you I mean outside of who's the worst of that bunch I named Booker I guess career-wise um you got to be basically an MVP or an MVP candidate or or a top 75 player of all time I'm saying what I actually think about it's pretty damn impressive because it's saying you are a gamer you're a gamer you're one of the best of the best though like video G saying you've got a lot of other Awards right right right right right so if you're lumping that into it then it's impressive because you have all this other stuff hypothetically to be on the cover but you keep going okay let's put it there man I went back and looked at 2K covers there are some Wild Ones for the international versions oh yeah get you with Danilo galinari Italy NBA 2K16 there was one that had Mark and pal on the cover jumping uh the allstar game wow wow guess what country that one was in Spain Spain yes Ben Simmons was on um on the cover for Australia and New Zealand oh you know back back in the day yeah Philly days not not currently no no uh I got most improved third highest on the or after 2K so third lowest third lowest yeah I guess depending how you look yeah exact yeah yeah yeah and I had Conference Finals and All-Star MVP tied second tier for me number one is Olympic medal uh if you're a United States player gold medal any other country getting a medal is any medal is okay so you had that as the most impressive for a Moder limping yeah I totally agree obviously there's those players that don't really play even when they win a medal Jason Tatum for instance so I guess that takes a little bit away from it but I totally agree Nica yic isn't all that happy and smiley he just won the bronze for Serbia he was freaking so happy this summer he was celebrating large uh with everybody on his team so yes that means the most totally the next yeah tier I guess it's I I don't know where to go Conference Finals MVP is that bigger than All-Star MVP I'm I don't know I think most improved might Trump both of those might be bigger than both of those yeah because it might mean something like yopo he went one most improved after being a kid and after some idiot on NBA TV said he's overrated right that was me and then he went and said that guy's an idiot I'm going to go win most improved and he did so I don't know there's something there's the story there can be a story there there can be some meaning there allstar MVP it also has some meaning but I don't know I mean it's lost a lot of meaning the last couple years for sure back of the day maybe Jason Tatum just got the the tattoo yeah uh who has the most of these cuz Giannis doesn't have an Olympic medal does he no yeah this was his first Olympic yeah cuz otherwise Giannis has everything except maybe the D jumping on the on the broadcast and I don't know maybe I don't think he has maybe a local broadcast maybe he's been on the Bucks broadcast maybe maybe otherwise he Conference Finals MVP okay does he technically have one no but if they handed out the award when he doing yeah he would have got it obviously most improved been on the cover of 2k's one allstar game MVP Booker hasn't done the All-Star game MVP done a lot of these other ones too Anthony Davis doesn't have he doesn't have a Conference Finals MVP right yeah this most improved that was just started in 2020 he does feels like Yannis is almost the closest which is a really funny thing all right anyway what a question man I mean Dwayne yeah I don't know if we want to go non-current this says modern player so I don't know how far back he wants to go but Dwayne Wade was just a color commentator during the Olympics he's got the medals he's got allstar MVP no most improved was he on a 2K cover I don't know um yeah yeah he will but it maybe not oh yeah he definitely was that's Wade yeah yeah I think so yeah probably multiple ones to be honest like a legend one you know they do those they do he always surprises you how many covers there are a ton of them man so many yeah so all right great question he was on a legend one just let you know 2K 20 I think there you go there you go all right next question here hey guys uh this is a wild question this one stopped me in my tracks uh the NBA cup is objectively a terrible name for a trophy do you think they are just giving it this generic name so that when LeBron James retires they will have a trophy ready to go to name it after him I just can't think of any other reason they went with this name if not how do you think LeBron is going to be immortalized by the NBA thanks for the company over the years rest in peace Moo Milk Bar I How will LeBron be immortalized by the NBA? still dream of the cowgirl cookies oh those were good cookies uh love you guys that's Jonah from the hammer from Hamilton Ontario AKA The Hammer wow but the hammer what is he right do you like do you hate the name NBA cup he says it's a terrible name for a trophy he says it's objectively a terrible name you can't dispute it I agree I mean I sorry I don't I don't agree I don't agree at all I agree that mu milk where was great you made all the way from Hammer to East Toronto to come respect to you Jonah but I disagree that it's objectively a bad name it's called the NBA cup because Adam Silver wanted this to happen Adam Silver loves soccer they have trhy names exactly like this the FA Cup has been around since the 1800s he's talked about it that's what he wants so I'm not I I would dispute that LeBron is going to have his name on it when all said and done I guess I understand he won the first one yeah and every every trophy now has someone's name on it over the last few years it's it's happened so I guess that makes sense but I don't mind the NBA cup at all it's sponsored so it's not you're not going to hear just the NBA cup you're I think that's why it's just they did that too it's great to throw a sponsor on it really easily oh yeah but better than inseason tournament that's objectively terrible yeah that we all agreed with and then everybody just started calling it the NBA cup so the NBA was like well we might as well just call it that it is a cup but the LeBron part of this he might have a point there's you know we've run out of things to to name after Legends uh could LeBron could it be the you know MVP let's say of of the NBA cup is he did win the MVP he won the first MVP but come on this is too minor for LeBron James yeah feels like it the NBA cup are we sure it's going to be around in 20 years no yeah I don't think it's a guarantee you're not going to name something after one of the two best players of all time and have it go away so I don't know I I mean the reasoning makes sense because the Lakers winning at LeBron taking home the MVP you could see either of those being named for LeBron but I would personally rename either the Maurice POF trophy once again it used to be the MVP trophy now it goes to the team that has the most regular season wins it's the one trophy we have that's named after a commissioner outside of the Larry O'Brien I don't think we necessarily need that uh or you could rename the Eastern Conference Finals MVP which is currently the Bob Koozie award I think no I thought it was Larry Bird Larry Bird what's the Bob Koozie award we need to get that one no offense yeah there is one there's so there there are so manyar mag or the Western and Eastern uh conference F I think cuz that's pretty recent I don't know maybe get the Bob Koozie trophy if you win the Eastern Conference Finals the team does I think Le how many Eastern Conference Finals did LeBron win a lot of them yeah in a row or most importantly I think they should actually name the Lifetime Achievement Award after LeBron the guy has the greatest NBA career right that has ever happened he has achieved the most in the NBA in his lifetime MH so I think name it the LeBron James Lifetime Achievement Award and give it out every year Bob Koozie award is an annual basketball award given by the n Hall of Fame to the top men's Collegiate point guard was I what I don't know am I looking I don't know that's the only award I got that after LeBron now a college award for a point guard never played in college uh yeah I thought you're right because there's the MVP I'm pretty sure that's Larry and Magic east west but then I think they the trophy itself given let's say to the Celtics this year for winning the Eastern Conference I I thought it was named after a player like hav Koozie one of those guys there's a name for that a million of them so it makes that part makes sense right and Bill Russell has already got his own thing so yeah that's the Bob Koozie that's the Bob Koozie what is you Championship Championship Eastern Conference Oscar Robertson osar in the west of course okay they thought of everything so you want to read That's I mean yeah so LeBron's not getting this one no no yeah I mean almost it almost d D I say like if the NBA cup does stick around forever I mean that's almost makes sense maybe even more well not more impressive because it's a weird little inseason tournament anyway they'll name something after him I'm sure or they'll just remake the logo I can't wait for that conversation when LeBron finally retires should we make it his Jumpman dunk that that conversation will come on back I didn't know that the NBA gave out trophies for winning the division there are six trophies for winning the division that teams get at the end of the year and they named after they're all named after African-American pioneers N I just did not know that until I was deep in the wikipedias okay Wayne Embry trophy Legend that's got be the Atlantic I would hope Central damn Buck got it Cleveland he's a Cleveland man that's he with the r organization okay okay next question you guys hear about that new PBA fourpoint line yes yes in the Philippines they have a four-point line Samu noo thanks for that question we also got this question a couple weeks ago had me looking at highlights of fourpoint shots people were draining You guys hear about that new PBA 4-point line? it's one of those arcs that goes from sideline to sideline so you know it doesn't have a baseline no Corner no corner so and they've implemented it in the Filipino basketball league cuz I think I think they used to have it in the allstar game I want to say but maybe they had those circles like the WNBA does the fourpoint circles anyway here it is I mean it's a it's a bit of a pixelated photo but there is a four-point line yeah pixelated Basketball Association 27 ft away okay I hadn't I had not heard the news Sam I I heard it through our through our emails uh as well did you see this and people are shooting him I saw Scotty Hopson former NBA player wow four games over eight seasons he had a game winner down three pull up four-pointer great shot cool unbelievable they yelled on the broadcast see it on facebook.com great question I saw when I was doing a little research on this should made four pointers count as a three-pointer for your alltime totals so like there's guys who are like getting close to the PBA record for career three-pointers and now if they're making four pointers should those also count as threes I do think so I agree yeah cuz it's 27 ft a lot of guys shoot threes at 27 ft sometimes um and they make them that's those are the ones we get you know more a little more excited for 30 ft is the ones we get excited for nothing shorter would you like to see this uh implemented in the NBA nah no no I I'm a bit of a traditionalist i i it's like pop always says he hates the three-point line he doesn't really say it but he knows that's what he really really thinks uh you it's just going to create a little too much space out there there is there going to be any more posting up I don't know it's just there going to be too much space I think think people D dri they want we're just going to have lines that just keep going back four-point line fivepoint line Sixpoint line okay you're past half court eighto line whatever point line I like that uh I like to support the four four-point line cuz I don't want to be an old man who would have been against the three-point line in the 70s the late you can't imagine you can't imagine the game without a three-point line now right that would suck yeah I think there's a lot of space already as well everybody shoots threes right what's the big deal guys are shooting from 27 feet give them an extra point look changes the Dynamics of a a close game at the end obviously it's not two possessions anymore what is Defenders going to do there's just that's a lot of space to cover it's the same it's it's like two steps out guys are positioned there all the time already you got to guard that far anyways yeah but you step out even further guys can dribble wherever they want it's just going to be like going to the park um but anyway yeah that's what happens out there in regular PBA basketball I think there's a clip of them asking Kyle kozma about it that I saw going around I didn't click it I saw the headline I was like I don't care do we need to hear St I don't care what Kyle thinks okay he would shoot him yeah guaranteed he would shoot him him and Jordan po might lead the league in four-point attempts all right next question uh science has proven that bird watching is the best activity to fill the time between the Olympics and the NBA regular season season with that in mind what bird are you most excited to look for during this fall migration that's from What bird are you most excited to look for during this fall migration? Andrew TK you love watching the birds love it what you got your eye on hummingbirds oh yeah oh ruby throated hummingbirds watch them for hours fighting each other we got like four or five of them in the backyard right now do you have a humming bird Fe three there you go yeah you get one and you just want more these things are amazing amazing creature to watch have you ever thought about doing the thing where you like like I don't know you put on sort of a suit and hold like like a hummingbird feeder in your mouth Yes and have see how close they come literally all the time cuz I mean they they're Fearless they know we're not catching them you know so they can get nice and close to you um so you know I was out there flipping burgers on the grill recently they came up to probably like 5T away and I'm just just watching this bird H with this long nose I guess it's a beak big old bird nose oh that was wicked uh I love it man uh shout out to all the hummingbirds thanks for coming by sweet hummingbirds are the most interesting bird for that reason I am trying to look for the video where oh here it is yeah there it is a little girl or holding holding a little stick I think it's wonderful because she feels comfortable in what she's wearing because I took my kids to a little area where he held sticks and you know little parakeet or whatever came out and they if a kid put that stick anywhere closer to their face they're popping into your face and so that's not fun but I think they would would feel extremely comfortable with a little mask on put a mask on yeah she looks like she's got she can go motorcycling uh because welding she's covered yeah they could weld um or they could see this beautiful bird are you a are you a bird guy not as much as try that's for sure but uh would I classify myself I guess you respect words I don't respect them sure but you don't know I don't know the sounds as well as tra us like I can't decipher it's one of my dreams to be able to feed a wild animal my backyard dream big man wow squirrel chipmunk I mean you could do that if you I know requires so much patience man oh okay okay you got to sit out there I tried to feed a squirrel of course I mean we got I had a fox run through my backyard the other day I've seen them come up to like people's houses and eat and stuff a little scary to me but uh yeah it's a slippery slope too cuz then they're always going to be coming yes and sometimes get out of here Fox I don't Che it out man I'm not feeding right now yeah yeah so I would I don't recommend it but I mean it would be cool a little little chip monkey yeah oh man that'd be so cool Bob Ross Style Just Friends with a squirrel man we got a squirrel in our backyard right now got a scar on its back I feel bad for it oh really want to put some Neosporin on [Laughter] it but I thought this was a good question we got like 6 weeks until the NBA starts you know things really start picking up for us I feel like at the beginning of October how you guys spending the last month before we get into serious times might be feeding some animals yeah um that's for sure well we got to do some twitching some some live video gam playay is there a Bird game Angry Birds Angry Birds you I want to play Hungry [Laughter] Birds you never moved you you you believe this twitch is going to happen live streaming us playing video games I know talk to it into existence that's why I mentioned it the more you talk about the more likely it is to happen we're going to do this man we're going to do it from the factory though we're going to play it on this we're going to do it from the factory we got to make it happen I'm just waiting for JD to get back so we can figure it out he's he's down he's already saying and spoiler alert I guess but he's like we're playing Star Wars Outlaws I was like all right yeah we are great you guys can play 2K but me and jdo play Star Wars how about I'm not what is it going to be a 24-hour stream play every game mean JD does live here he could do it all night if take one hour off to record a podcast every now and then okay it's coming don't you worry uh and to answer your question um I've got one trip I'm GNA go to mount reneer okay yep I'll see some birds hopefully yeah you will yeah yeah I'm going to do but it's going to be a quick trip very quick trip too quick I think find flying across country man I'm going for I guess three nights is fine three nights two days of hiking I'd like to make it three days of hiking personally but hey season's right around the corner I'm doing it right before the season starts so we get it in yeah uh final one Tass you got this one what were the best and worst drinks on summer of Champions and which one surprised you the most that's from Ryan schwarzman the drinks you were drinking during your What were the best and worst drinks on the ‘Summer of Champions’ Olympics show? Olympics shows yeah a a different drink every night for a different country yeah yeah we never overlapped when it came to the drink from a particular country so that was good uh the worst easy was uh South African Port it was not good not sweet it it just now look that bottle was gifted to us I think it was a bit of a panic gift from a neighbor around the Christmas uh holiday time cuz we had given some wine out to the neighbors and I think there was a bit of probably like oh should we give them something yeah just give them this bottle of P back of our cupboard yeah yeah so yeah exactly so I mean maybe it was the bottle maybe it's just South African Port it's not very good maybe it's not for me I don't know it wasn't good though that was my least favorite uh surprising was Pimp's cup you ever had Pimp's cup I don't people get excited when they I thought it was going to be crap I don't know why but it was tasty I'm still a little confused what pims lure is but uh you know it's an English sort of gin based liquor from what I can tell and you got a little uh gin ginger ale which I love little lemon it was refreshing it was more refreshing than I thought Le Alice loved it the Pimp's cup uh but my favorite was probably the Brazilian cocktail the kyera I'm totally just butchered that close the kiria kiria I think that's how you say yeah yeah yeah with the uh uh kasasa the lime the sugar it's a bunch of stuff I can't pronounce but God that was that was my favorite that was sort of like a mjo mhm bit of a Vibe of a mjo but a lot of work muddling shaking icing you know lot of there's a lot of steps a lot of Step that I didn't do nor did them all but uh yeah those are my favorites and my least favorites okay yeah so that's where we are at the question yeah good thank you thanks for taking me back to Summer of champ that feels like an eternity ago but that was like mid August it was not that long ago feels like a time ago I saw notable uh breaker ray gun doing some interviews back in Australia this week like I don't care sorry ray gun I can only care about the Haw Tua girl for this long she got her own podcast yeah does ray gun yet probably probably breaking with rean breaking news breaking with Reagan that was her first breaking news I love it I do laugh though okay I'm over the story of that too but I do laugh every time you see the one photo or she's looking like a dinosaur or whatever like a dancing dinosaur that's a still a funny photo great photo uh what is uh H the the the HW tua's podcast name do we know a talk Tua that's pretty good actually that's pretty good talk to who's what wrestler says that sort of talk to you talk to me I don't know is that a uh what's the guy L LA Knight oh la Knight he says something like that not talk to of something similar everybody's got a podcast yeah Ignatius mentioned Mondo raced the guy Mondo Duplantis right Mondo raced the world record holder I believe in the 400 meter I think a Norwegian athlete I forgot his name uh beat Warhol yeah beat him Mondo man what an athlete this guy he ran a 1037 I know that was like I was like that seems like a competitive time to me I apparently it may have been the third fastest time in Sweden like he you know he would have maybe just missed out on making the 100 jco it's apparently what uh is his name DK meta yeah that's what his time was I guess in the 100 nice it's a damn good time for a guy that doesn't run the 100 it's fast it's fast as hell yeah that sort of makes like those the like P volters you got to get going man true you got to get that speed going and you're holding a giant pole he did the whole race holding a giant pole that's why he beat him guys like this pull through the tape first I did watch that why were they doing that though they they just talk crap I think a little bit to each other like I'm faster than you no I'm faster than you let's race did anybody watch Joy Chestnut versus Kobayashi I saw the highlights I don't want to watch that yeah I just don't want to watch eating I don't want to watch eating I turn I turned on Netflix earlier that day it was on lab day right I saw like the whatever it comes up on the carousel I clicked notify me I wasn't around the computer or the TV at 3:00 when it was on and then I saw the results and like once you see the results you're like yeah you know what the Highlight looks like yeah the only I can't imagine what he was doing only thing I heard was kobashi got off to a fast start didn't he I think I just I think he was killing it in the first like minute yeah yeah I think so but he slowed remember that one time we saw him chug a whole gallon of milk of course I do what I still tell people about and what's the other kobashi story uh he forgot his ID no there is that the third one well he he also did a karaoke he's saying uh what did he sing it was a beetle song yeah it was nuts and then do you remember the only time he talked in the karaoke room was when he sang that song otherwise he didn't say a word well he tried eating the mic remember oh yeah what a jokester can we get kobashi into every podcast between now and the season wow oh man Kobe Ashi counter okay let's see how many times we can do it KOB what a guy yeah but Joey man he said he said he's like the most wait how did you word it I said he's the most dominant champion in all of sports it's like him and Serena Williams the gap between them to the next best in their discipline is the largest yeah I think who you say bolt may have had a case when he was obious bolt was good leii Phelps probably too Y and then Joey Joey how many how long how long do they get to suck them back don't even eat stop I I sort I take offense to the people saying eating cuz it's not almost eating to me you think they should have to enjoy it this is good I mean okay when we have when we get together for barbecues nobody's taking the hot dog out putting their butt in a glass of water huffing that down and then sucking down the dog I mean that's not it's not ere eating them yeah you should have to enjoy it a little bit or at least one you have to savor one yeah put top yeah yeah yeah and maybe it'll be called a sport if you name it something other than eating like hoing I don't know yeah hoing the Hoover um he did get a dude wipes deal off this I saw he making making perfect V dude wipes never misses a trick yeah they're they got a good team over there those dudes just scouring every corner of the globe for anything that's toilet related think about their meetings at dude wipes like on their whiteboard or maybe a brown board yeah um it's like all right what do we got on the calendar this year who's going to be taking a lot of dumps this year you know like pumpkin spice think it goes in comes out quick well no pumpkin spice fragrance on their dude wibes yeah they they got it yeah I saw that yeah they do through the joy Chestnut but it doesn't it can't can't leave you can't have anything Brown on you can't have a pumpkin spice what you know what I mean pumpkin spice pumpkin spice you just see you can smell the fragrance but I can't you're saying the dude wipe itself is fragrant apparently but I'm just saying I never know these things are real either you know I know but it's like oh that's funny but is it actually a real product can I actually buy that sixpack of flushable dumpkin spice dumin spice come on man they're on fire they're brilliant over there they're like all right September we got chestnut October pumpkins coming November Thanksgiving easy one Friday Black Friday they probably call it brown Friday hey dude wipes first week of the NBA season for no dunks we change the name to no dumps yeah which is actually goes against what they would want yeah so that's been a problem but anyway we can we can brainstorm this that's awesome man too good dumpkin [ __ ] this is great H all right I think we should call it there that's probably a good spot to call it yeah we'll be back next week uh who's who knows what we're doing but we were yeah at some point I guess you're right man we got a couple weeks still until we really get into predictions and over unders so I'm sure we'll hit the beach keep your questions coming no dunks theathletic.com some fun questions you got for us drop them in the YouTube comments hit the like button subscribe five star ratings and reviews if you have an idea for a show let us know this is be the time to do it here over the next couple weeks yeah we got time yeah we have a couple more weeks till we really get into it uh until next time till next week Clipper Bros you heard it here first have a great time turn up love you guys awesome thanks Forin joining us and remember we were with Kobayashi in a karaoke room and he sang I'm just guessing but I got to get to the bottom of this was it obl obl yeah buddy yeah wow you know who always gets to the bottom of it dude wipes prce the day people [Music]