have you worked with Paul what's the association with Paul is that through assoc like mutual friends no I've never worked with Paul we just um I became friends he did a film with s with my partner in Australia um and I I was over there um and so I got to know Paul through that and we've we've just become really great mates um you know there's there's a whole little group of us that sort of that that that really get along and I just adore him I actually Paul um I actually sort of eem met him when during lockdown I when I watched um normal people and I was so utterly Blown Away there's a scene in that where he I think he's he's having therapy his character is having therapy and he broke down and and like I've I've I I've I I've I've done my first here breaking down over the years you know I'm sure like everybody has but um I was so utterly moved I'm never moved by those kind of things ever and I was moved by that and I just couldn't I he just took my breath away completely and I was like I've got to find this guy a kid at that point um and I I found him you know through the sort of social media route and I just got a message to him and I was just like I just have to tell you how wonderful you are and um and and sort of from there we sort of developed a an e e I don't know what you call it relationship um and then I know I know yeah I know I know we're really good really good friends and I am I just I I love I I I just love watching him and I love I love watching Paul navigate his way through you know and and and like you you know I've I've I've had a relative Slow Burn in many ways as as a career um I've I've I've been very lucky in what I've been able to do but I've been very lucky that I've had sort of space to learn and grow and right and Paul was sort of straight into the deep end mhm I I I love the way that he deals with it and and he he he's he's Unapologetic for how he wants to um you know keep as much of himself as possible and I'm I'm IM immensely proud of him for that alone forget his acting which is you know sort of just a sort of strange kind of beauty that very few actors have how he sort of holds himself as wonderful