I don't want your I [Music] [Music] [Music] don't [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] hello Hammer hello will the uh the podcast powered by paywise powered by Hammer back to you hello never yourself good to see you great to see you um I don't know why why is he does his microphone needs to be closer to his mouth like hey how about that what is happening is that better now Good Golly gosh hey why was that City out there Jesus Christ I don't think I touched it I might have oh God uh great to be with you everybody uh Dan is not with us that's okay really uh We've cut him we've cut him forever he's back from America he's not on the show anymore he's awkwardly touching my shoulder give us a look you just can't see his head it's just out of front I've had a few people uh I don't want to throw down under of the bus but he's not out of the bus I've had I've had I reckon six people over the last over the weekend yeah four of which live at the L Hotel came up to me I was there Saturday night I had a couple of drinks after the game L Hotel yep at the L Hotel brilliant I was there and I had four separate people come up to me yes and say [ __ ] it's so much better with you just you de without Dan he's like you're way better and Dan it's [ __ ] because of the one that I did last Monday that was brilliant that was great yeah and then I had a random dude on um people on William Street today pulling up and just wearing his window ham I love you work thanks man that was brilliant pulled up on the street pulled up on the street driving his car pulled over and said H I love your work so shout out to whoever that was no Ted yourself any laces I've never Ted a few lasers this week you y any back Chatters uh we've got a couple of back Chatters in the pipe haven't had a back chatter sign in a while so but the good thing is if anyone out there is looking to no themselves a lace and you put back chat or you know any of that Online Social Media stuff in your description yes you come to me okay great we like it um great to be with you um you know what I do like about you and me doing this podcast there's zero there's little to zero preparation zero prep and when I whenever I come in here we never talk no which is fine it's not cuz I don't like you I think we're M but we not waste we waste chat you waste chat you come on here and if we talk for five minutes before the show then we'll miss a little nugget I went to my first game with my two kids as a fan ever on the weekend and was the 31 it it was 3 awesome what a g um it was great oh [ __ ] they just [ __ ] dominated didn't they they looked amazing Melbourne didn't get a clearance in the first quarter right yeah I mean having no Rockman versus two rck yeah but they didn't have a rck last week and won that's a good point just got obliterated it was awesome freem manal looked amazing it lends me to think that flagman back on and certainly not flag Manel but it's wary time it is wary time if you've been keeping your eyes across back chat double underscore there may or may not be a little drop coming it's wary time I think it could have been dropped today it is time this is my old stock but there is some warie time gear on the way so if you're Foo fan and you think this might be the year I was texting some friends over at Melbourne you've got some friends over at Melbourne a couple few people said that Foo were the best side that they've played this year y that means Premiership on the agenda what you for Freo is a Premiership on the agenda yeah it has to be they've got as good they're Midfield Andrew now is playing back to his best football he's playing a late you know ever since I put him in my dream team he's really lift he started the year and he was injured he was sick he was on and off he was he was not struggling he was still having 25 but he didn't look his Dynamic best and now he is fit as he's as fit as any midfielder in the comp how many run T so [ __ ] quick how many run down tackles did he I feel like he had like 10 run down tack he just and he like he's he's quick he's explosive and he's starting to use the ball really well and [ __ ] he just finds it do you go to the footy much as a fan anymore I only go to watch him did you did you grow up as a all the time yeah I was talking I was talking to em about this the other week cuz it was raining it was a Friday night game a couple of the Richmond game yes and I and she was like why would people go to that game and I said I love doing that yes I was a massive North melbour fan growing up Marvel Stadium back then it was I think the teler D then into Eddie had I would catch the train from Sandy flender Street jump off Southern Cross line get to Southern Cross walk down docklands there was a Hungry Jack in the uh in the Southern Cross station I would get a Whopper and then i' would walk to the game like me and mates would just go I was 15 I'd be on the train by myself just in there watching the footy I [ __ ] loved it going to the footy yesterday like gave Donuts out the front so there's two for me right jalong Cadia park right it was like a bit of a thing like in Long like everyone went to the footy like and there only 15,000 people like you kind of just everywhere and so it's the same people every week There's No away crowd yeah exactly oh every second week or or whatever but like going to that like parking in the in the car park on the grass at Contin Park and then walking in and then there was like the Melbourne trip weed got what MCG or Tome have like our secret little car park to park in the same like Street and same spot spot almost every week but we used to walk like 25 minutes to like like almost to like save the time to save like 25 minutes in the car park but we're we were coping the 25 it's it's like I just I used to love it and go as a fan now to watch Andrew um but living in living in Perth like you only get a game a weekend yes back in Melbourne I remember going to like you'd go to three games a weekend if you if you had nothing else to do yes like there'd be a Friday night game at the G you'd go to on the Saturday t on the it was just like it was awesome yeah I wonder I've done a double header on a Saturday before just back plent Times Gone to the G at night so gone to Marvel during the day and then I miss a little B to be honest I miss the fan stuff like i' I've talked about on this podcast that I found it difficult to like pick a team like I can't go back to jalong I don't go for West Coast I'm like gws in I'm definitely Haw thorning at the moment I'm even doering seriously I wore this to the footy yesterday and people were losing their [ __ ] I'm a North Melbourne and and a Freo supporter I was like cheering hard for North yesterday I was clapping the Dockers like I felt good about it too yeah it was great Hawthorne is Absolut Ely well and truly sizzling on all cylinders at the moment and I couldn't have loved Jack ginan's game on the weekend any more than against your old side that literally flicked you like mcra flicked him 31 and two for as nice as fly seems I think he's a ruthless [ __ ] Got to Be Right comes out media and it's like it's like you're listening to some sort of like happiness sermon it's like yeah let me know let me tell you guys this is how we're going to be and we just love each other and we love this and all that I behind closed doors animal he's from he's a three time Premiership player with Brisbane is he he's just flighting around the bushes with Lee Matthews as head coach I don't think so Micha rubbing off on him I would have thought tell tell just tell Lee Matthews oh jez you look happy today woman fuzzies with Lee I don't think so I reckon I reckon that meeting would have been a good fly to be on a wall on uh with Jack inin where he basically told him to [ __ ] off pretty much yeah and Jack inovan has just returned serve in all levels we did it last time he played him as well yeah it's a good point but this time was like the put the crowd to sleep was just and like his press conference afterwards ah yeah [ __ ] straight away onx [ __ ] sorry not a good start can you give us a look at uh the HW social media post they put up uh Jaden just a little that little uh what so so I want to put it out to our listeners hello thanks for joining us and this could be uh you over on YouTube live uh or anyone listening along just hit us up so the Hawthorne social media team have put a picture up of the guys in the middle of the stadium right uh middle of MCG after baiting Collingwood like couldn't get any better they've put a picture up of that with did it say what did it say this is HK Jaden did it say this is Hawk this is hwk this is is HK Hawk h o k uh what does Hawk mean and that's what Buddy's talking about do you not know I don't know what's going on really what's happening with the [ __ ] image right now have you never heard of the hawk thing I don't H you said what that is that's what it is yeah what does this what does this is Hawk mean I don't know I'm pretty sure so you're acting like you [ __ ] know it is that though that's what it is that's why they're saying Hawk right so this is Hawk so that's the hawk part is it I think so hwk is that I think that's they're not saying this is Haw tour yeah but they're saying this is Hawk so what does that mean what does that mean the short and down version of that I don't know what that means I think that's what it means okay I'd like to know if any if anyone can tell me that'd be great but I think that's what it means yeah I says Hawk T spit on that thing yeah I I believe so um here we go buddy Franklin yeah this is Hawk no I understand Hawk T I understand I don't need to I don't need a breakdown of that although I'm happy to have breakdowns no worries I just don't understand in capital letters what this is Hawk means because neither does Buddy Buddy says what does Hawk mean pretty funny from Buddy he would have he'd be the same as me mate lit have no idea uh Max Hansen says Hawk equals Hawks yeah well I'd get that like like crom equals Crow oh really well but I think they've got Hawk from that Hawk tour thing bit like from the guys on YouTube think it's a bit like yeah and Max says a bit like North is North yeah but did they get that from yes I don't know what what chicken or the egg chicken or the egg that's what I think okay anyway okay I just sort of bring that to your attention uh I um had something on just before ran into former West Coast Eagles coach Adam Simpson did you uh look for him being on the show very soon I bought signed a contract and I just carry that around with him now so he will be on soon but it did get me thinking West Coast Eagles new coach Dean Cox has submitted his papers and says I don't want anything quite I like them a lot how many years were you were at West Coast just a three were you were you coached by anyone that tickled your fancy is anyone there like s Mitchell was very good okay yes he's an awesome coach good point um Jamie Graham was there Jamie Graham was there didn't have a whole heap to do with him but a very very nice guy like just I think the thing that you instantly get about him is that he's just a really good dude yes like I I think I mean how many people in the world would he have met that's a great question in his how old would he be be mid- 40s he would have met to give me a life I reckon he would have personally met 10,000 people you reckon I don't know maybe a little bit less that's a lot how many 4 let's call him 45 I personally met like high arm Jamie high arm Jamie 45 in his adult let's say he's had 20 adult years yeah 20 adult years let's say he meets personally 100 people a year that's 2,000 not a lot that's okay let's say he's personally met 2,000 people okay I don't know where you're going with this none of them would say he's a bad guy he would have I think he would have 100% hit no one no one's met Jamie and said m [ __ ] hell I I reckon every bloke that he's ever met in his life has thought that guy's a nice that guy is a good person don't you reckon yeah I like that that's that's the thing I instantly what you get with him is he's just a very very genuine good guy yes and I think the players resonate with that he's easy to communicate with he is obviously very good at football and smart about football and knows football yes he's got a calish demeanor about him but when he needs but like it's a bit like a your dad when you listen to him it's like oh [ __ ] you know when he's a bit angry you just dis I'm disappoint I'm not angry I'm disappointed that's the vibe I get from him and you wouldn't want to let him down okay but I think he's a yeah that's a good endorsement for a head coach for great endorsement for a head coach best guy ever do you reckon so I spoke about this on the sh footy cast this morning do you think they're going to go with an untried and tested coach in in a Jamie grah or are they going to go and get a tried and tested coach like a Nathan Buckley I think the former and I think they should do the former as in like untested is it not a hiding to nothing I well potentially I think if you look at the Hawthorne football club Hawks two three years ago if you look at hawk three years ago you would have thought their list sucks they are [ __ ] they've got no hope what does Hawk mean it's a great question but if you look at hawk three years ago they're like these guys are done they're [ __ ] Sam Mitchell has come in and albeit not a like he was a coach yeah but he was an untested head coach yep he did he did Coach the vfl yeah but he's just come in and just said boys do you have fun go for go with a flow Gan you wanted to put the crowd to sleep put the crowd to sleep mate boys you want to roll in in your [ __ ] NBA Style kits beforehand West Coast tried that they can it pretty quickly yes they said boys do whatever you want have a lot of fun take some selfies in the middle of the ground [ __ ] get the crowd involved do all that sort of [ __ ] because you're all young men with a lot of talent you're exuberant do have fun if you bring a Nathan Buckley in or Ken hinley I'm starting to hear words of rumors of guys that have been there a long time and they're now coaching again Nathan Buckley I can't wrap my head around him in blue and blue and yellow yeah but if do you reckon he hilarious do you reckon he's going to let players do that or is he going to be like well [ __ ] rain it in boys I don't know I I think you need someone and the Hawthorne football club is the perfect mold for it of a young talented list team that is [ __ ] at football to be allowed to play with freedom and then bang go do you know who does that and I don't know if you had close experience or not but he would have been there when you were and I spoke about this on the shelter footy cast and I did see this man today who had flown over for this event today so he is in Western Australia I think across my time in footy best coach I ever had Sam Mitchell he's unavailable at very much unable at this stage very much unavailable this stage at this stage yeah but it' be that'd be a turn of events he's my best coach best development coach so the best at developing people best at improving players and I think a proven track record not only with players but specifically at the West Coast Eagles Adrien hickmott yep did you have were you a I had y I had a bit to do with him so I don't know I don't know if you loved him or loved him but I I would say majority of people that worked with hick closely yep loved him and improved as players yep I was I was one of his players and I think I improved great and you what did you do oh you want a you want a s medal I did a s so you probably put down to some some of your development at West Coast yep I would say do that some things you learned there I think I think he's the guy not only do I would like to put him in the mix I think he's the guy that needs to go on Coach West Coast it's funny story about he tell me he was the waffle Eagles coach for a bit yes he and it was the it was the year before Co so we didn't end up getting to play under him but he coached Us in the preseason games we played a preseason game fras mckinness was our captain we played a preseason game against East Foo at East Foo and his pregame speech he's very eccentric and likes to relate all sorts of weird [ __ ] but if you're talking about like go and do what you want to do oh yeah yeah he's the guy he's he's not your tactics guy no he's not your tactic guy he's like he's like feel the footy love so he here this was his pregame speech he said boys he's a surfer he's getting into surfing he's sitting up there and he's talking about he's he's just been practicing his cutbacks he's on the long board yeah I never [ __ ] I've no Sur I couldn't tell you what this is but he's like I'm practicing my cutbacks he goes boys I get up there and he's drawing a graph and the graph is the try too hard graph and he goes sometimes when I'm trying too hard on a cut back I just [ __ ] it if I'm trying a 10 out of 10 like my tent's there and I really want to do it but if I'm trying a 10 out of 10 I'll [ __ ] flip and I'll wipe out and I'll be done he's like but if I can try between a seven and an eight out of 10 I'll get it and I'm not trying I can have a little bit anyway he's pregame speed when for about 20 minutes explaining how to do a cutback and that was his message on the way out boys just don't try too hard fase mckinness Captain as soon as we ran out of the rooms brings us all in boys [ __ ] that just try give it everything did you win did you win it was a preseason game we didn't lose one of them but yeah literally just FR brought us in boys [ __ ] that we try hey boys I want you to listen to hi but also I want you to try give it everything so uh very good coach I agree the weagles web in 2015 that got us to a grand final that was Adrian hitmon and it was as I've regular spoken about it wasn't a he didn't have he didn't have a graph he didn't have he didn't have magnets on a board even he would bring us in we would watch we just watch Vision he would clip 20 minutes of vision and we just watch it and talk about moments and there was no right and wrong and there was no yes or no there was just like you look at that and you sort of discuss it and be like yeah this is what we should have done all right next and it was just a Vibe thing and his whole thing right the weagles web the best defense in 2015 that like coaches were talking about oh my God I don't know how to beat it I don't know how to developed it was literally he could just say to us go and help your teammates play together if you got a decision make if you get a decision make and you're like oh should I go or should I should I stay it was just go and help you mate and it would just turned into this thing throughout the year where it was the it was the most fun I've ever had playing footy cuz you just running around trying to beat your opponent and like you were a bit out of position so I was go help you no worries and if it stuffed up there was never any like why'd you do that I was like it he yeah like the RFI come back like why' you do that I was like I was going to help Hammer he's like oh sweet no worries next and it worked it [ __ ] worked Adrian hot he's the man to coaches the next W West Coast Eagles you heard it here uh second because I said it on the sh of foot cast this morning um I don't know if I need to bring is has a shter foot cast is that live and has that already come out cuz if people are listening to this then they heard it here first it it is not live but it has come out it came out this morning but they may not have listened to it oh well you're hearing it here first and or second you are hearing it with your ears I don't know if I I was I was going to save this for the tab touch bman I don't no you can n just roll with it ah I'm going to save it I'm going to save it I was going to bring you I was going to bring you something like to your uh bring you bring something to my attention yes thank you I don't know if you saw her or not but there's some big big movement in the bman stakes in the AFL at the moment like there's someone new on the scene there [ __ ] rocking people's worlds so I don't know if I need to bring it I I don't I don't know what I watched on the weekend I was extremely aroused be H was it the lobster it was the [ __ ] Lobster mate I'll tell you what I have not seen a bman do what he did but he gave birth to a player on the field he literally gave birth Jeremy Cameron he gave birth to Jeremy Cameron live at GM new son is Jeremy Cameron I've got a lot of respect for Jeremy Cameron great yeah great player Roy lob him in he he was his father father [ __ ] Jeremy Cameron like it was unbelievable scenes and if I had have told you at the start of this year that Rory Lobby putting his hand up in the conversation for the best backman in the league you would laugh I would have laughed at you wow he's here the lobster can we have a little look at his highlight re I can't hold this until tab touch have a look at say Jeremy's on the mark there that's a double Fe look at that bang gr MERS Le Messi don't worry about it Jeremy Cameron oh my goodness get out of here Jeremy he's not happy with the delivery look at the man he is playing in slos too that is a dou [ __ ] look at that Rory lob he started looking Dow too as soon as he puts his black boots on then we're actually yeah then we're real de he's got his white boots on I don't think we can keep doing that hey um some sad news we are in backman area by the way now we are yes some sad news I don't know if you've seen it happened about 5 minutes ago I don't think I have 5 minutes ago we started talking about 20 minutes ago yeah okay right before we came on a Harris Andrews out next week with concussion he has entered concussion protocols the leader in around 16 or 17 wherever we cut the votes off of the back chat bman of the Year award wow he's having a spell having having a week off wow the door opens up how do you feel about that W do you think he knows that at round 17 he was almost an unsalable lead and he's thought hey might just pump the brakes we need to make this close he definitely did that I'm sure he did cuz he's a big listener he loves the boys here he loves the idea of the Jack buckling medal he loves that he was leading at Round 15 or 16 when we cut the whs that's big for the competition do you think he had a big lead do you think I'm about to put something on the table sure put it right down there do you think Rory lob can win the J he hasn't got a vote yet so he may or may not have got votes this week we won't know ever know we will never well we will know well no on Monday Brown so he let's just say so it's Round 19 round 20 round 21 22 23 and 24 yes he has six rounds left Harris Andrews when we shut the votes off was on 16 votes if Rory lob gets six threes in a row he gets 18 yes so he can technically still win it you tell me there's a chance if Harris hasn't pulled a vote since we shut it off and doesn't and Rory gets three six weeks on the truck um he's a chance do I have to play do I have to play these videos in in syn Jaden or can you pull them up as request them okay I would like to have a look at video number three you need to see this heish this is in respect to our uh fallen father in Harris Andrews long down the line kick against Sydney just watch what Harris Andrews do that's him in the middle of the ground bounces see you later he spoils he spoils that that's deliberate out of bounds guaranteed deliberate out of bounds it's not a marking contest because it bounced oh yeah he doesn't give a [ __ ] he just runs back to the backline he is so um so so obsessed with not dealing with [ __ ] like that he puts it out jogs back to the backline and goes thanks Luke Parker I'll have that fact can we get a better clip of Harris that's good the funny thing is I reckon if that was can we start yeah go again imagine that was okay I'll just use Nick deos as in da because he's a pretty smart player he gets there and like just Taps it over the top of his or he just Taps it a little bit he put that he puts it him just J back to the backline doesn't even look at it that is good value and Luke Parker who L par experience yeah very leadership yeah he doesn't know what's going on he he has no idea he thought oh you're Beauty this is a fre inside 50 I'm just going to smack it in there Harris go you silly man thank you well done Harris very very good Harris did he get any votes on the weekend that's the question that we all ask let's hear from our friends at tab touch shall we You' Got The Touch [Music] you got the power yeah all right we can't reveal the votes yep we we oh boy if you're not watching you're just listening you don't know what's just happened but hom is just taking the tab touch stuff off for one second uh that's pretty funny back chat backman of the Year give us a bit of an update though so a fair bit going on heap's going on heap's going on so what I've done we um our bet lost which was disappointing it was in it till late yeah we were in it till late uh we had no tin in forward to kick more than three or more and it was looking reasonably good mate I I will say um in a game that it's 115 to 130 it's one of the highest scoring games it's probably not the game you want to be involved in for a bit mate we were alive until when's this until the 29th minute of the third quarter yep and so Cox kicked his third no other no other SNM player kicked three for the no that's correct only one and he kicked three yeah so it was like we I think it was a good bet it was a great bet I actually think it was a good bet I think it was a really good bet and the JBS the system that I put in place got us close y so that was disappointing we'll be going back to the well we'll going back to the well absolutely this is we've we've discovered something that actually bable yeah so we're going to do that uh but the the the contest is heating up so I think we yeah the backchat backman I think we've now had three weeks of closed voting yes and you're not telling me at all it's annoying me I'm not telling you anything right there has there been a little bit of tweak to the algorithm there there was a tiny tiny minor little tweak but it's worked in it's evolving it's always evolving it's always evolving but I think I did say this last time but I think this is it I'm pretty happy with this one I'm really happy with it I have um I've added a new rules into the qualification that allows you to like the criteria that allows you to qualify for a vote Yes um so there has been a tweak there I'm going to watch your Poker Face here y cuz I watch am I allowed to have I told does everyone know the rules have I told a few rules like you no you haven't given anything I'm just swear I've told some rules now so you you were going to give us the algorithm in like algebraic form I did that early days I can do that again I'll do that again right give us I'd say give us some rules so some of the rules for like disqualification and qualification so we've spoken about this I don't think we have so one of the rules that will disqualify a player from registering a vote in the Jack Buckley medal is if a like for like forward kicks five we've spoken about that before we have we have so for example if Tom barass played and Tim member kicked he did y unlucky unlucky no no West coasts 5,000 intercept marks no he could be the best defender of all time and not play on Tim memy but Tim mem fight fair like for lock forward get like you need you need to get the job dumm you can't blame the midfield for the entire game correct the other rule is so it was if you take a mark inside 50 and kick a goal out kick a running set if you kick a running goal you're done the only way you can score a goal and still be eligible is if it's a mark outside 50 and a 50 met penalty you get brought forward yes that's the only way you can be eligible for no ganting no gallivanting no runs from receive halfback flank kick a goal cuz that's Larry stuff we don't like that the other rule that we've just Incorporated uh and that has has been Incorporated over the last little bit is if your team loses by 10 goals or more you can't get a vote okay we've Incorporated I think we incorporated that about a month ago and that's last time I haven't updated everybody since then okay but that was that was another tweak in the algorithm for rules point of view I think it's difficult to get votes when very difficult to be the best defender in the in the round or in the top three defenders in the round if you lose by 60 points okay I like that and then we've tweaked so that was all the rules that came in and now we've done one SL little tweak to the algorithm and it's perfect little shout out to Griffin log I loved his game he was good he very V you don't you won he he he went close to making Charlie kerno his [ __ ] to be honest Charlie Ki four but three very yeah Joe the goose well wasn't Joe the goose M fell over Charlie on him right and before them another yeah another free kick that wasn't against G exactly not Griff's fault dominated him for the day very good it um okay I also saw in that game that uh the AFL is taking head knocks really seriously cuz Harry mcki was basically dead and they just said for play on can some I have you seen this footage what is it har Harry mcai gets a head knock and he's like so clearly concast yes he's like Dazed getting to his feet and stumbles staggers for Char kerno is holding him up staggers for his first couple of steps and like the umps aren't stopping the game the doctors aren't coming on the field no trainers getting to him he staggers for about a minute and a half and then gets the ball and snaps a goal and it's like brilliant he's kicked the goal he's back goes off does his hiia he's cleared then comes back on don't be surprised if he gets ruled out I saw this incident he he was knocked out he kned he he was concussed clearly why did the doctors take so long to get out to him because it was a close game and he was in their forward line thank you very much that is correct get independence get some independent doctors in there that yeah that was bad that was a really bad look I thought a really bad look give us the backman of the round video please Jaden uh number two would be great I asked for people to send in Clips this is what people have done they've sent us Clips uh Kell Wilkey Bill Harry har Edwards in the goal Square bang Baris goes whack who else we got here this could be Jack Buckley could it oh it is oh boy it's Jack no one even want to go near n no one did want to go near this the sort of highlight tape I like to watch that is that is seon Alex ston little bit too L the lobster you're going to put the Lobster in there mate look at this this is brilliant who sent this in is that the lobster as well this is great thank you for sending this in look how [ __ ] that ground looks oh moose he did he break his arm again uh he got a little oh look at that the one hand look thank you very much ter wow this is a brilliant highlight reel bang holy [ __ ] just says see you later see [ __ ] later gone 50 see more he might sleep in a different bed but that was a big [ __ ] spoil yeah how don't I'll get to that very b b Saks in there he spoiled over the a Rory M this is unbelievable this's a good package here can you tell me who sent this in please oh har Harris Andrews wow wow wow wow wow wow wow Jordan Clark was that Chapman oh Griffin that was holding the ball the had to be holding the ball Jack Buckley I would Lov it if he that out oh boy where's he kick that that's it that's back to the start wow who sent that in that's a great clip great package you say name please Aaron Andrea sevich Aaron you hired Aon Andrea you send that to me every week and you're getting on the podcast really buddy good hold on Aaron uh that is the back chat backman of the year uh thanks to tab touch make sure you stay tuned we got a big event coming up uh there and uh you win some you lose more for free and confidential support call 1800 85885 or visit Gamel online.org it's time for Hammer ranks 1 2 3 4 5 is it and now on the back ranking let's do one off the top we're doing one live I don't think it is I'm looking at the Run top five worst feelings outside heart yeah I'll see that now I do see that that was last I do see that let's just roll with it all I want you give me anything and I'll just do it Off The Top This is how much we talk about what we're doing before the show I want you to rank the top five teams in the AFL that's it I want you to giving me your top five because I think that's more difficult than it seems and I'm and I'm a bit boring okay as in how do you want me to how however I want it you can give it to me however you like number five so I'm going to go from five to one one being the best you could you could take this in any direction I will I will put a bit of hammer on it I will put a bit of me on it number five yes the West Coast best number five the West Coast Eagles I'll tell you why wait do you want to give us the list and then we try to figure out what you R me like why are they number no no no because it's best teams ever yeah no no no this is why okay they've got 100,000 members there's a couple of dogs and some kids and all the rest of did you say that 100,000 members there's not 100,000 members what are we doing here no but okay here's why I think they're the top five team right they have they're not they're bad right now they're the worst team in the comp right now but in terms of team this is why I think they're number five they've got half more than half of the state yep that love them they all it takes is one good game and everyone forgets how [ __ ] they are and they all they're all back yes they've got Harley rido a gun they've got uh what else have they got they've got a really good facility which I love to they've got Ruben jimy the boy but all it takes and this is why I think they're the best best they're number five sorry because all it takes is one good game in their back and all if they can figured some things out they've got an endless supply of support just go Bank won the Derby beat Melbourne here and people oh my D it's like back we're back you forget how [ __ ] they've been for three years people were talking about them making finals so that's why I they just lost by 80 to S kilder that's why they're number five they're not a great team but they've got so much potential I still don't understand like in what world they number five but I'll I'll take it on Board number four I was kind of hoping for like at this point in the season like giving me a top five in the ladder but I like where you've taken it number four is the Sydney Swans four yeah four biggest membership in the country they reckon well do they they do reckon that they do I don't believe it for a second for the Sydney Swans the best team on like playing at the moment I think still I think the Sydney the brisman last a little bit they've had a couple blips so they're blipping they're blipping at the moment but they've got guns everywhere I think on paper they're as good they're the best team on paper what Young almost they're young they've got some really goodlook dudes hot as and they've got Dane Cox now that's going to coach him going forwards they got that stability got the [ __ ] they've got the massive [ __ ] and they are looking good for the next 10 years you can't fault their list for 10 straight years four they're in four is the negative that they're in Sydney the negative is in Sydney that's fine positive in Sydney I think they get nice weather it's Sunshine over there all the time the cost of living sucks so that's why they're number one right number three that's why they're not number one of living cost a living number three Freo the free man of Dockers right I think they're similar vein they're as good as they're in team at the comp I think they're in the top four for a reason they're very very good on at football Andrew plays there so I really like them they've got young talent coming out their ass Josh Tracy all of a sudden is now the best I mean Jake's had a few weeks where he's been injured so people forget about that but Jos Trac is the best the best tall forward in the comp right now good point dominating all Australian won't be but should be uh they've got Alex Pierce is the best captain in the comp Alex Pierce is the best captain in the comp best captain in the comp they've people wanted him sacked yeah people wanted him sacked I did no he's uh he's they've got the best they've got they're the best team in wa comfortably which is good because we're massive footy state so that's nice West Coast Fans would say they lost the last derby yeah that's what exactly that's why west coast of five but they are very good and they're in the Premiership window and I think they're going to win it this year right number two is hathon [ __ ] they're good have always been good had issue never had an issue with success they've had premierships for the last [ __ ] million years they've got really good players they're cool ass they've got young stars who don't care about anything else other than having fun Sam Mitchell is I mean basically I think from having spent minimal time with Sam Mitchell he was the is the same coach as he was a player just super fun wanted to have fun with everyone all the time play [ __ ] FIFA and just enjoy his life and so he's brought that into his coaching and the boys are just awesome boys are loving it they've got a few really good senior heads there that are just doing their thing but letting the young guys just have fun and go for it so Hawthorn is a club or number two a club is number two number one's a North Mel footy Club number one is the north melbour footy club and I'll will tell you why no coling with no Carlton calling would a [ __ ] the worst team in the comp by mile if there's worse than T gold tazzy haven't got a team yet are worse than them is Right are actually are going to be worse than the next expansion the southern Stingers Southwest Stingers are below them and suck go Coast [ __ ] can't win away from home Caron n they're getting there but there's a couple BL uh and Brisbane they're just they they're always going to be good but they're never going to win a FLAG NOR Football Club North Mel footy Club are the best team in the comp at the moment in my opinion because of the following they've got everyone that plays go have a look at this everyone that played on their list on the weekend I reckon you have four that weren't drafted in the first round it's they in like five weeks in five years they are going to be [ __ ] like no one's G to come we think Sydney are good right now because they got Warner Heeney and golden what about Luke Davis UNC what about Kobe MCC what about Jo s what about George wardor what about Harry sheel pH is good what about Will Phillips what about all these guys that are just going to [ __ ] on everyone Stevens I think was a everyone's going to [ __ ] they're going to [ __ ] on everyone for fun they are so much better than everyone in 5 years and right now they're just starting to get good even in two years man they you telling me now they're the number one yeah they're my number one team why cuz I love them and I always you're such a nuffy mate I'm telling you you've been hiding your nff I'm going to wear a North melbour jump next week cuz I'm telling you they are going to win who are they playing this week does anyone know they're playing Danny tazzy and I think they're playing it's not Hawthorne no it's not Hawthorne they play jalong in they play Jong and tesi and they win that game they beat Jong and chesi I can't argue with that and they I'm going to wear North Mobile Jersey next week are my favorite team in the comp they're the best team in the comp and they are going to be Untouchable how's this what year are we in right now 2024 they're going to win in the next 10 years yes from 2024 actually this year doesn't count cuz I can't play finals from 2025 to 2035 no team will win more premierships than North Melbourne you heard it here first from when to when from next year 2025 to 2035 so in that 10year stretch North Melbourne would win more premierships than any other team you sound like Brendan Gale when he was getting like peppered with questions [ __ ] what's going north will win more premierships in the next 10 years than anyone else mark my words okay they've been marked uh and that's why they're my favorite team so very impromptu and really no direction to it but no feed a feedback on YouTube worst rating ever po hands bra north of the best team some people like it Hammer take very good north of the best team I hope my video gets shown here uh bring back whoer someone tells me uh I don't mind it I gave you no north and west coast are [ __ ] so I probably just shouldn't say that but hey um one thing we have forgotten to do the last couple weeks cuz we haven't been preparing or spending any time on putting together what we about we should probably do that a bit tipping our good friends at the Alfred hotel are still giving away $250 vouchers for our tipping leaders how they going our leaders of the week get a $250 a voucher and this week big Glenny H don't know your last name Glenn Glenny horel how many Glenn got he got nine he got n question Glenny got n n Out of n yeah really good so 2 so there was a couple of um like Hawthorne Collingwood that was a certain Bulldog Adel curly actually I T syney like it wasn't an easy week to Bulldogs down jalong the hard ones were Bulldogs in jalong ad against well not actually EST suck uh and then bris syy cwood on Collingwood 5050 yep what on Glenn that's $250 to the Alford hotel and anyone Miss anyone yeah anyone missed would we going back in L and doing that hey uh I'd really like to do the back chat back page if we can let's do it okay oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy oh boy bringing you the news that you never knew that you need to KN no AFL fans react to Collingwood Captain Darcy Moore after his girlfriend said they don't want to live together or sleep together I think Darcy Moore and his his girlfriends living Arrangement have become the talk of the AFL with fans labeling the Colwood Skipper woke and blaming his unorthodox relationship for his shocking form slump calm down [ __ ] AFL fans if that's who they [ __ ] qued he can do whatever the [ __ ] he wants Mo's girlfriend D Selman who host the Sunday hookup SE sex education program on Triple J I can't say that would be easy having a partner talking about sex on radio can't say that would be easy raised eyebrows earlier this week when she revealed on a podcast why they don't live together many fans said Salman's long winded explanation for why they live apart complete with feminist buzzwords and therapy speak made their eyes roll I don't live with my partner at the moment and we have such different independent busy lives we got to have so much of what we do blah blah blah but I wonder how many uh sorry I wonder how much you can actually upkeep that when you do end up living together so much of it is heter learned behaviors that you might fall into the line about heter learnt behaviors caused a firestorm on social media certainly would no comment from no I'll read a couple of headlines I it would be pretty hard to um to live with some like to have someone on radio talking about sexl when I used to talk about jacking off all the time one ripping it remember when that guy jacked off to my mom as a teacher oh boy sperm bank anyway the the the titles to this article AFL fans react to calling with Captain Dary more go patriarch behaviors why Dary Moore sleeps in separate bedroom wild forward reason star couple lives apart Dary Moore and girlfriend reveal surprising Arrangement becoming Talk of the AFL Dary Moore incredible reason footy star and his very trendy radio sex show host girlfriend don't live together what the [ __ ] meia is [ __ ] that he's dumb ass people off the heads AFL star Dale Thomas opens up about the $400,000 dollar worth of counseling he needed to recover from an embarrassing onfield quite a regret Daisy Thomas yeah footy star D Thomas has revealed that he required $400,000 worth of counseling in 3 years to recover from an embarrassing onfield incident this is written like he wasn't joking I can guarantee you he was he's either he's either one gone and seen a therapist 400 times or he's gone to one block he's never done therapy before in his life and some BL swindled the [ __ ] out of him I had a set no this I had a shot at the go against Collingwood when I first played for Carlton so we got traded also 35 M out was never more confident going back at kicking a goal and didn't make the distance just somehow fluffed it I reckon it took me 3 years and about $400,000 worth of aflpa counseling to get confidence back clearly clearly clear joke I haven't read this one but it seems interesting Dancing with the Stars judge Craig Revel hwood makes Ben Cousins blush with racy confession about the AFL star he's the no he's to take no prisoners perfectionist judge on Dancing With the Stars Australia but on Sunday night's episode Craig Revel hallwood revealed another side of himself as he made contestant Ben Cousins blush the dancing expert 59 was commentating on the former AFL players performance when he took made a shock confession Ben 46 it's sort of [ __ ] crime right here what we saying the age smiled at the comment and began to laugh as the flamboyant judge went on I love it so much I'd like to kiss it Craig said causing the audience to gasp and here that's what the dance the chaa is about it's cheeky and you bring an energy to the dance FL which you should never leave at home what's he want to kiss Ben appeared very flattered as he giggled and blushed at the normally harsh judge's compliment what was he wanting to kiss I don't know what he's talking oh very good hey uh we haven't done this for a little while so I thought might throw a couple of questions at you Hammer sure um I do have to host a pink concert tonight so we'll be wrapping up right on 5:30 that's good uh you send it we might yeah correct so we've had a couple of these come in a couple of good ones Janie Knight hello Janie thanks for sending these in hey if you do want to send us an email and we might uh highly read it you can send it to hello backchat podcast.com to you yes you can you can send it to hello backchat studios. you as well if you want uh Johnny KN hi hammer and scoy no Dan and tools down Dan if he ever returns really like it tools down Dan two questions around the tackling suspensions and umpire judic if you don't mind I'd love to would you like to answer them one after the other or do you want to hear one answer it hear one answer it I'll let's speak here both of them and I'll I'll throw myself at both of them it's quite long firstly I don't watch a lot of first grade footy so forgive my naivity but do the rule changes and adjudication flow down from the AFL into the waffle vfl Etc pretty quickly uh stop moving the run sheet are you having to adapt or question how to go about tackling Etc through your season as well Hammer uh not particularly the AFL rules are they govern the waffle but there's like the waffle have their own interpretation of the rules so we're not necessarily we we're not going full AFL style my tackling hasn't changed to be fair right and and I don't think the interpretation of the holding the ball rule has changed at WAFF a LEL yeah has it been any like suspensions that you're being like what the [ __ ] going on here no okay um uh sorry I'm just going we don't have the resources to do it right to like to scrutinize it the way the AFL do and to have a thousand different camera angles we don't have the we don't have the resources I was thinking maybe the game's going okay maybe we're just looking a lot at it at the moment I agree and secondly Michael Christensen came out a few days ago on the tackling suspension concern saying over 18,000 tackles have been laid this year and seven suspensions I agree from a spectator perspective it's so ambiguous on what constitut uh constitutes a suspension Charlie Cameron probably yes 3 weeks no and then gets off completely I think there are a lot of rules and the way they're adjudicated at the moment are going down the same line but maybe Christensen has a point the big pitcher of seven suspensions out of 18,000 tackles laid could suggest the players are adapting pretty quickly to these ambiguous rulings and findings uh sorry and finding ways to still land tackles and play the game without it having a huge impact on gameplay is it a bit too much media hype I wonder what your thoughts are on this and christensen's Views specifically thanks for indulging me love the chats I love I think Michael Christenson needs to just up firstly I think he does I think he just really needs to shut his mouth and and just admit that I think he needs to admit that his system sucks and it needs revealing it's not his system though is it the system okay I think he a great question by the way I think look the AFL Tri the way that the mro there's been 18,000 tackles and seven suspensions great but like look at the seven suspensions yes but it's not but what frustrates me is it's not just the tackles it's everything else that's like it's the way that you can say in the same week that that tackle isn't as bad as that guy who elbowed you behind the back of the head and it's the fact that two weeks ago that tackle was no weeks for Dangerfield but I'm going to give you three weeks it's it's it's inconsistency inconsistency of it all and while they have only been seven suspensions they've just been like they I think they've just been it's it's been [ __ ] and it's been really bad and now that players are being told to just drop the ball because it's better for you to drop it then hold it in and the whole idea of all these rule changes was to one protect the head but two to like to promote flow of the game and to promote enjoyment for the fans the fans hate it like that's the whole the point of like uh the 666 Rule and the point of all these rule changes that promote this flow of the game and there's no Third Man up now and you have to have all this free space to lack congestion and so it just flows because the fans wanted to see that the fans don't want to see this [ __ ] umpiring and the [ __ ] tackle interpretations and this [ __ ] holding the ball stuff fans don't want to see that so they need to come out in the AFL should do it pretty quickly if not at the end of the year say hey hey guys we're going to overhaul this whole [ __ ] thing because it sucks and our number one priority is putting forward an enjoyable product as is the same with every rule change as is the same with all the interpretations that they try and do protect the head yes but promote an enjoyable game and enjoyable product for the fans yes and the fans [ __ ] hate it yes and it's clear as day okay I like it so that's great question uh no we're going to do this one now this is from Tim grig SC I stumbled upon the season season fixture guide please review and give me your thoughts on reflecting on how much of a piss take this season has been for Interstate teams and the AFL supposedly fair and equ Equitable draw love the show boys and keep up the banter interstate do it was quote unquote Interstate wasn't it that's uh you know Interstate to [ __ ] wear yes that is a very good point now I want to read you I'm looking at it right now you say yes I'm the AFL fixture guiding principles MH uh the AFL has sought to develop a consistent and Equitable schedule of matches which connects with Community assists in growing the game and continues to build the financial stability of the AFL competition if I can summarize that uh they're trying to get more people to come to games they are trying to get like more people to watch but in the end we just want more [ __ ] money that's basically what that means corre corre in order to achieve this getting more [ __ ] money our guiding principles are one to develop as close to as possible a fixture which gives all clubs equal opportunities so again if I can paraphrase to develop as close to as possible that means we don't really give a [ __ ] correct we we're going to just put people where we want and say hey we tried but you know what West coach FR you're on the other side of the country we don't really care correct is that right fair is that fair paraphrasing two to maximize attendances at AFL matches in all markets ensuring the best possible accessibility for fans yep fair I like that fair three to maximize audiences across our television digital and radio broadcast Partners ensuring National exposure for the game so that they're going good they want more people to watch and more people to uh view it um to number four to take into account the specific requests of AFL clubs players and other key competition stakeholders particularly venues and broadcasters okay I don't reckon they do that equally AR and West Coast would probably and Freo so we want all home games here yeah they probably well we want yeah yeah yep we want more than one every second week number five to continue developing the game nationally by scheduling matches across all states and territories throughout the season they do do that imagine how good it would be for a like for wa if there was a Saturday game fre and then a Sunday game West Coast yes imagine that every [ __ ] third week and number six they talk about the breaks that they give the players I'm looking at this schedule and I think it's a giant [ __ ] you everyone else that doesn't live in Melbourne and I agree with that what I also think though is what you should do for like if you want to maximize money and you want to maximize people coming to the crowds review the game after review the fixture after 9 nine rounds jange it and just say Sydney and Brisbane you guys are [ __ ] good we're going to play that Friday night at the gabber on Friday Night round 10 how much time would you have to give to people cuz I heard another another couple of podcasts talk about this and like you need to give people time to adjust their plans like hey I'm from bris I'm from Sydney and I've book flights to the gabber and and it was Sunday announced Friday night it's true a lot of you got to give some people time okay but like that's what that that's what the AFL should do if they just want to maximize money well I think spot on Timmy to make it a bit more Equitable what they should do is they should not have the Melbourne clubs in a discussion m the Melbourne Club should just say we're going to go and shut up yes because we're going to get a good R we're going to get our good run and we should have Brisbane go Coast jws Sydney Adelaide Port Adelaide freem or West Coast all together I think I just did nine teams I was on the eight uh they should all get together and say what do you guys want yes how does this best suit you guys what does it look like fixture their 24 rounds and then just filter the Mel teams in hey have we got a fin introduction do we ever have that do we ever I don't think we ever have a sting no do we not have a sting we used play him we you should play him yeah I feel like we had a fine s maybe hey Hammer you said you've got a f for me I don't even know I haven't done the fin for a little bit if you'd like to send us a fine I'd like to see him backchat podcast.com aines if you want to vent how [ __ ] your team is if you want to tell us how good your team is send me some finds over the weekend we'll play Monday or Friday yeah we will this one you've bought one in I've bought a great one into the uh to the podcast a teammate of mine in who played twos on the weekend uh he'll be find a carton for the footy club and that'll go towards our end of season so that would be great but I'm going to find him I reckon I'm going to find him $8 okay for how far away he was when he kicked this football just watch the clip have we got the clip give us a look at this sand and paage free kick 50 m just strolls in bang oh my goodness just kicks a good old fashion gracious me the head's almost come off the Umpire he has got a freak kick and it's a 50 m penalty and he's just rolled in and hey we we want to respect umpires we do want to respect ire the ground is very slippery so he's had to look at the floor as to he's just [ __ ] tored it into her head oh my I'm not laughing no we're not laughing at that that's a fine for for Dallas is a fine for us for laughing because that looks like quite is are we confirmed that she's okay she's okay she's okay have we confirmed oh yeah confirmed confirmed she's okay what's so that's bad obviously an accident terrible accident do you want to know what worse we speak about the inconsistencies in the game he's been reported for that he's been given a week for that he's been given a week report for that oh I believe it's like it can potentially come down to a reprimand by an early play but upon assessment that he's he's been given a away umpire misconduct or something he's accidentally kicked a [ __ ] footy into her head you wouldn't have thought that he's meant to do that no way you been given it a week I can't believe that I hope feel a littleit think he'll get off he if if if if I don't know if he had have kicked it and then missed her and just come through and clothes L give her away I reckon if uh you tried to do that you probably couldn't you couldn't anyway I'm giving Dallas an $8 fine because that's how far away he was when he wake off now he'll get off I think it's a reand that was my fine I really like it um hammer that's bringing us to a natural close of the program yep before we leave okay tell me about the loose t-shirt you oh there it is East per for C Paige has been reported for contact with the Umpire after King the B head is there I want to see some quotes I want to see like quotes from people in Paige was understood to be concentrating on not slipping on the surface when he made contact and accidentally kicked the ball into the Umpire well [ __ ] o I'm sure he didn't deliberately kick it there's no way he can get awake for that what is hwk okay um I am wearing the Lund shirt so the white balance seems a bit off it's a gray top operation gr it's gray it is [ __ ] exceptional by the way the lch Jake the lch Waterman calls himself that after watching uh listening to a podcast with Brena faola yes who came out and he called himself Evolution who's going to play on the lch correct Jake thought that was awesome rooll with it and it's stuck yes Jake's now the lch and he plays like it too he's [ __ ] sprinting out taking he's got the mullet he's got the biggest head in the comp and he is as good a forward as there is right now and he's playing 100 games and so this is by Smithy cartoons he's done a lot of famous cartoons for the AFL uh Jake the loose Waterman is sitting on top of Jason dun he's on top of the lp he's on top of gar he's on top of Wayne KY and he's on top of pluger locket and ahead of his 100th game I'm I'm calling I'm recalling him by the way CU he's out of the team right now he missed last week yeah he'll be he'll be back he's coming back this week the Louch is in our uh store right now backchat studios.com that's 100 games for the loose he's pretty impressive considering he was behind JK JD and Oscar is for his whole career and now he's going to win 10 Coleman in a row as well he's going to be the best player that's ever existed so that's for West Coast Fans for Foo fans on your way to the Premiership in 2024 I don't think we have a preview of this lying around but we have it's War back it is absolutely back in a big big way massive way get over there it's open there as well I think back chat studios.com it's [ __ ] wary time time they're flying out the door we dropped them this morning they're flying have got we're flying high there fly uh yeah correct so they are coming and and lastly I will say uh live from the lead of all just like you were on the weekend uh 6 PR and back chat are combining for Friday Night Lights live from the Leadville Hotel 5:00 p.m. this Friday it's wary time David Monday will be there where you where you it's warie time shirt it's Monday you sign it this t-shirt will be available there but you can get it before and we'll have it ready for you to wear there so Dave Monday you'll sign it uh lamb duin's joining 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