blocks away from the debate hall at the National Constitution Center, there's this massive spin room set up inside the Pennsylvania Convention Center, and both Harris and Trump have large contingents of allies making arguments on their behalf. Right now. And that includes North Carolina's governor, Roy Cooper, right there in Philly tonight. He took himself out of consideration to be Kamala Harris's running mate. But on this debate night, he is one of the top surrogates for Harris's campaign. And he's talking to ABC news in the spin room. Here's the governor talking about President Biden's decision not to run in this race . >> Of course, she's part of the administration, and she's not going to run away from Joe Biden. Joe Biden has been a great president. I do believe he made the right and courageous decision not to run again and to allow Kamala Harris the opportunity to get that nomination. I know that was hard for him, but that was the right thing to do, just like he always does. He keeps the best interests of the American people at the forefront and Kamala Harris has taken off excited people. Uh, polls are tight in North Carolina, with the third fastest growing state in the country. We were the closest loss from Biden Harris in 2020. Only 1.3. Uh, we are the offensive state, I believe, for the Harris campaign. This time, they're going to try to protect everything they won in 2020 and get North Carolina. And as I've said many times, Kamala Harris wins North Carolina. She is