THE BORDER. BUT AS FAR AS THE REPUBLICANS AMONG THEMSELVES A UNITY IS IN ORDER. BY THE WAY, WE HAVE SOME NEWS THIS JUST IN THE VICE PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS, HAS SPOKEN TO J.D. VANCE. NOW, OF COURSE, DONALD TRUMP'S RUNNING MATE. WE ARE TOLD THAT THE CONVERSATION WAS BRIEF AND RESPECTFUL. IT'S THEIR FIRST CONVERSATION SINCE THEY ARE NOW OFFICIALLY RIVALS FOR FOR THE VICE PRESIDENCY. AND THEY HAVE AGREED DO A DEBATE. SO WE'LL SEE WHERE THE DETAILS OF ARE, YOU KNOW, WHO WILL HOST THE DEBATE WHEN. IT WILL BE AND ALL OF THAT. BUT -- BUT LOOKS LIKE WE WILL HAVE A VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. >> I KNOW THAT A LOT OF AMERICANS BE TUNING INTO THAT. WE'VE HEARD TIME OVER TIME THAT SOMETIMES THIS VICE PRESIDENT POSITION IT MAKE THAT MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE. BUT REALLY, WE'RE HEARING THE COMPLETE OPPOSITE SOME VOTERS AT THIS POINT RIGHT NOW. AND JOHN, I AM CURIOUS OF YOUR ASSESSMENT BECAUSE WE WERE TALKING TO SOME ANALYSTS YESTERDAY THAT FEEL LIKE J.D. VANCE COULD BE HER BIGGEST CHALLENGE IN TERMS OF DEBATE FOR HARRIS. >> YES. I MEAN, LOOK, I THINK THAT USUALLY THE THE UNDERCARD IS NOT A BIG FACTOR, THAT THERE CAN BE RACES WHERE PERHAPS A RUNNING MATE MAY HURT THE PERSON AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET ACTUALLY HELPS THE PERSON AT THE TOP OF THE TICKET. YOU CAN SEE POSSIBLE EXAMPLES OF WHERE WHERE THE RUNNING MATES MATTERED. MAYBE LBJ AS JOHN KENNEDY'S RUNNING MATE, MAYBE DAN QUAYLE MIGHT HAVE HURT A BIT. >> GEORGE H.W. BUSH. BUT THIS RACE, THIS RACE WITH TWO MEN, 181 YEARS OLD, THE OTHER JUST A FEW YEARS, THERE'S A LOT OF ATTENTION FOCUSED ON ON ON THE CANDIDATES FOR VICE PRESIDENT. AS I HEARD BIDEN SAY TODAY IN HIS SPEECH TO THE ACP CALLING OUT, KAMALA HARRIS SAYING SHE'S BEEN A GREAT VICE PRESIDENT. AND NOT ONLY THAT, SHE WOULD SHE COULD BE PRESIDENT, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY COULDN'T BE A GREAT PRESIDENT. SHE COULD BE PRESIDENT. AND LOOKING JOE BIDEN, I THINK PEOPLE ARE VERY MUCH THAT'S TOP MIND. J.D. VANCE IS 39 YEARS OLD. HE'S THE YOUNGEST. IF YOU GOT IF HE BECAME VICE PRESIDENT, HE WOULD BE THE YOUNGEST VICE PRESIDENT SINCE VICE BRECKINRIDGE IN 1861, SWORN. SO ON ONE HAND, HE'S YOUNG, HE'S INEXPERIENCED BUT HE IS A VERY SKILLED DEBATER. AS A MATTER OF FACT, I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS. ONE OF THE THINGS DONALD TRUMP LIKED ABOUT HIM IS HOW HE PERFORMED IN THE DEBATES WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR SENATE JUST JUST TWO YEARS AGO. SO THIS COULD BE A YOU KNOW A TOUGH SPARRING PARTNER FOR KAMALA HARRIS AND PERHAPS PERHAPS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL VICE