is Woody page the goat of around the horn is Woody page the goat of Around the Horn he would tell you he is he would definitely tell you he is uh but no what I don't you know is it Tim kalashaw I mean I have to go to vote he has the most wins I think I think it's either him or Bob Ryan one of the two because you know they've been on the show since day one but uh what he would tell you he's the goat but I'll tell you one thing about Woody man what the what do you see on TV is exactly the Woody you see off TV like this dude has lived he's lived he's lived the life and he's he's one guy like I really want to meet in person like we've never met in person he's in Denver of course but he he's he's helped me out a lot on the show in terms of you know just how to approach it and uh it's one thing like Woody is always going to be Woody and I think people have grown he's kind of at this point he's a grandfatherly figure and he's like oh man that's my grandfather up there talking about sports but you know he he he's he's still got all of his personality and he you can't talk about around the horn without talking about Woody page and I I love it every time I get to go to a FaceTime with him if I'm blessed to make it to FaceTime he's gotten the better of me uh quite a few times but you know that's that's the that's the veteran touch you know I'm still learning I guess