guest pulling up go ahead Angela no you go ahead you was go ahead after your potty Mouse go ahead and do the intro I did Governor Josh of Pennsylvania is here come here sit my guy what's the word brother how are you man what's happening what's happening man Governor Josh airo is here I I loved your uh theme of Freedom last night he I'm sorry you get hear me now I I loved your theme of Freedom last night and you know one question that I've been asking everyone in life of the Supreme Court's recent rulings the fact we know so many republican officials will refuse the certify the results of the election do you believe our democracy is healthy enough to have a free and fair election come November I do cuz look last time we had a free and fair safe and secure election in Pennsylvania and elsewhere and our courts held the judges when it was up to them did do the right thing but make no mistake there are serious threats out there it's one of the reasons why nine months ago as a governor of Pennsylvania which I think everybody agrees kind of the the ultimate swing St here um we put together an election protection task force led by my secretary the Commonwealth who oversees elections importantly a republican because I think the administration of Elections is nonpartisan obviously partisan exercise decide who you want to be for but we want everyone in Pennsylvania to know that their ballot can be cast their ballot will be counted and I don't care what Donald Trump does to try and throw out a a vote we'll be ready to go to court to protect it absolutely can I can I say I'm going to ask you you can say whatever you want you want it is a night of Celebration but I'm going to tell you the truth I'm going to take you into our text messages don't be mad lonard we were both surprised that you were not selected as the VP I was disappointed I was going to say that next okay um and I want to know um what it takes uh emotionally to get past that when you when you know you're qualified when you know your friends are qualified too when you're standing shoulder to shoulder with them and you know you got to carry on in the fight yeah how how did you move past something like that um I mean we are a little biased as we got to sit with you I remember interviewing y was like he has it there's like a Itor Andrew has the itaor running for governor of Florida like that was a hell of a race Andrew and he's not done if I got anything to do with it but but yes I just want to know what it takes for you to move past that well first off um I hope you saw me that Tuesday night in Philly when KLA Harris and Tim alls came out I I think I made clear um that I'm all in for them and I hope I also made clear that I'm more than at peace with this and let me explain I said during that process which I was really humbled and honored to be a part of um that this was at the end of the day a deeply personal decision for the vice president I'll tell you what it was also a deeply personal decision for me and you got to make sure that you're in the right situation uh ultimately most importantly for her she's the boss uh but also making sure that you're in the best position where you can serve where where you can chart your course where you can have an impact on people every day and at the end of the day I think she made an outstanding pick in Tim wall solid he's going to serve her well in that role and I look forward to continue to do everything I can as governor of Pennsylvania as a compliment to you though cuz people were saying like he's not a number two he's a number one so he but let me so speaking of number on CU that was my followup a lot there's been a lot of messy talk about in when KLA Harris and Tim WS win in 2024 that what would prevent you from challenging them in 2028 would you say like I would never do that listen no we're not play that game they're going to win I'm going to do everything I can help and I'm going to do everything I can to help make sure they win again so I love that but putting the noise the I think is Mission critical so I appreciate you doing that Governor I um curious well cuz I was trying to think what was the last time that we had a a broker convention um uh at the DNC so I was wondering that where that speculation um would come from but Governor the question I want to ask I know that you enjoy being governor of Pennsylvania dedicated I'm sorry I said three weeks ago what was 3 weeks ago Joe Biden steep down oh sorry my bad um Governor I know you enjoy being uh Governor you've been clear that you enjoy being governor of Pennsylvania however there is uh speculation about what role you might take uh when pela uh Harris and and Tim Walls win the White House should you join her Administration I'm curious what your advice to her would be when it comes to um what we're seeing happening in Israel and Gaza let me be clear I love being governor of Pennsylvania I'm going to continue to be governor of Pennsylvania period hard stop end a sentence full stop um if you're asking me about Israel I'm happy to give you my thoughts on that but ultimately that policy is going to be set by the Harris walls Administration with whoever she has hopefully negotiating a piece in the Middle East look I'll I'll just share with my My Views because I think a lot of this you know people like to project onto other people what they think here's what I know on October 7th a terrorist group Hamas by the way designated terrorist group by the United States of America stormed into a Sovereign Nation killed people at a music festival killed people in their homes ripped away babies and families over 200 of them and took them hostage back in Gaza there were Americans taken hostage as well the world should be unified in their outrage about that and my heart breaks for what happened in Israel Over the ensuing months my heart also breaks for the death and destruction that we are seeing in Gaza every single day those babies in Gaza they don't deserve to die but yet we are here in this situation of warfare that is claiming far too many innocent lives what needs to happen is a return of the hostages and then what needs to happen is an end of the violence and then what my hope has been for years long before October 7th is that we can renew meaningful conversations to have a two-state solution Palestinians and Israelis living peacefully side by side now listen all of what I just said there's some Nuance in that I get that here's where there can be absolutely no Nuance when it comes to all of us joining forces and condemning anti-Semitism condemning islamophobia condemning all forms of hatred and bigotry that should unify us As Americans be against that hat and bigotry and that is where I stand I'm someone who's hopeful for peace and the quickest way we can get toward a Lo a lasting conversation on peace is by being tolerant of one another getting these hostages home and ending the violence definitely want to get the hostages home for sure I think uh everyone agrees on that but given the over 40,000 um many children included in that number of Civilian lives that have been casualties of this war which I acknowledge is painful of course I'm curious what you might say to the people outside protesting who want to support this Administration and they're just they want their Humanity seen what would your message to them be tonight I would say uh you not only have a First Amendment right to protest one that as the Attorney General of Pennsylvania as the governor of Pennsylvania I stand up and protect every day uh I'd say that you know I I think I understand your pain I think I understand your pain uh it's hard to fully understand someone's pain till you've walked in their shoes but I have met with so many Muslim Americans Palestinian Christians people in Pennsylvania who have family in Gaza I've heard their pain I've I've absorbed that and and my heart breaks for them as it breaks for the Israelis that lost loved ones on October 7th and continue to have loved ones held captive by this terrorist organization this is horrible on every level and if there's people outside peacefully protesting to make sure that powerful people inside this building here that's their right to do and it's good that they're out there doing that as I've always said you got a right to protest you got to follow the rules whatever the rules are that the mayor of Chicago or whoever set up and and it's got to be peaceful and then you can make sure your voice is heard that's right I I want to ask you about Pennsylvania Governor um you know Donald Trump's support among white working class voters with without a college degree has shrunk significantly uh not just in Pennsylvania Michigan and Wisconsin as well that group typically favors Republicans but they're now starting to back to vice president why do you think that is you know I I'll just look obviously you cite all the polling and basically we got kind of a tide race right now I'll tell you what Charlotte man anecdotally when I'm out in these rural areas I go there a lot folks kind of Sidle up to me and they go hey what do you really think of her where what what's her deal what I'm trying to express to you is there's like a curiosity what's she really like what's she going to be like you know her I take that as a really positive and hopeful sign that they're kind of open to considering her candidacy and that's a really really important thing Andrew you know that feel from when you're running and you kind of got somebody who maybe you think wouldn't take a look at you but they are that's when you know you're kind of on to something and that's what I'm feeling out in the community and that's I actually wanted to ask your advice and I'm sure you're giv it to the campaign as a governor I completely understand your hesitance on going wanted to go anywhere cuz it's such a powerful and important and responsible place to try to change heal and mend the lives of the people for whom you've been elected to serve you're doing that I called you as the uh L uh um VP pick not in any recent time but the night I heard your acceptance speech once you won the race for governor I was listening on television and I was like that dude's got it I was like whatever it is he's got it Governor I'm not going to take for granted in any way shape or form that there are people out here who can't see a woman let alone a black woman as their commanderin-chief and I sometimes wonder how this conversation goes down amongst men when it's just men and you're trying to communicate to them in a way that is not politically correct but is at the source of your heart and the source of what it is that you believe and I wonder what advice might you give to this campaign the broader campaign and us as individuals and individual listeners around how folks might go about that conversation how might they go about that conversation amongst other men and what that might be and not saying all men are the same so there there's a lot of qualifiers there but I hope you get my point no I I do and I I think it is really really important that um people can vouch for the vice president who have had an opportunity to work with her people who have had the opportunity to get to know her certainly I'm one of those people and there are others when you want to talk about whatever just the guys sitting around having the conversation uh it might be hard for KLA Harris to be part of that conversation but if I can be there I can tell her hey guys listen she's tough as Nails yeah she knows what she's doing she is prepared to lead uh and I've seen her do the job I've seen her be tough and know what's at stake and how to make sure that she holds someone accountable or whatever the the situation is I think that those people who know her best vouching for her in those communities are going to be really really important well I hope people take that as instruction because however taboo it may seem and sound that's a barrier we have to get over in communities all across this country and I hope folks will take note and speaking of barriers I just want to before you answer uh Governor we've been joined by a history breaker history maker herself the first black woman speaker of the Pennsylvania house and I know an ally of Governor Shapiro so we wanted to make sure we had a little time to overlap with you both man speaker Joanna mclinton if you've not heard that name before you're going to hear it again and again and again she is the history making speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives for the first time the Democrats are in the majority for about a dozen years and look at who they pick to lead them that is a big deal she is awesome and as you said a great Ally of mine and I have hers and we're doing big things in Pennsylvania investing record amounts in public education Public Safety Economic Opportunity protecting our fundamental freedoms it's Big Time stuff for getting done in Pennsylvania in the only divided legislature in the whole country and uh Minister mclinton on Sunday's speaker M tea lemon and ginger what can I help you with Governor Bishop you were preaching out there I need whatever you drink after church on Sunday oh well there's no better introduction m'am speaker thank you for having me absolutely tell us how you did it what's been the labor to get to this point is as I've heard in the commercial my overnight success has been years in the making and that's probably uh the story you could tell absolutely so growing up I was not one seeing myself running anything in government I grew up with Role Models like Matt lock and CLA hustable so I was going to law school going to law school seven I mean I was in the 80s these were my role models no lawyers in my family and once I got all the way through school I ended up working as a public defender for almost a decade doing that work in in court with people who are in the worst circumstances of their lives both struggling with poverty and also accused of serious things about to lose Liberty it was there that I found my voice and in finding my voice I saw that there was a lot of injustices just in the law mandatory minimums I mean so many things that didn't make sense and when I would ask my colleagues and our appellate lawyers down at the Philip PDS I'm like what's this all about they're like Harrisburg I'm like well where is Harrisburg I live in Philly I'm not one to get to the state capital ever and I left the public defenders got a job working for my state senator was his chief counsel for a few years and for nine years just right now I have been serving my neighbors in west and southwest Philly and Delaware County as State Rep and for the last four years I have been in leadership in Harrisburg and it's when we flipped the house in 2022 that I went from the minority leader to the speaker I love that can I Andrew can I just jump in real quick I want you to understand what it means to have Joanna mclinton as the leader she mentioned that she was a public defender for ever in a day Pennsylvania was one of only two states in the whole nation that did not fund public defenders at the state level Joanna mclinton is speaker for a hot second and we got rid of that bad distinction we now help fund our public defenders right it matters who you put in positions of leadership talk about it you know Governor Shapiro your speech got under Trump skin right last night he he called you an overrated Jewish Governor so so what what offended you more I honestly didn't even see that what offended you more him calling you overrated or the anti-Semitism I mean I think my poll number is probably 20 points better than his so it govern the I should said that no but listen that's literally the definition of say less yes say l checked in numers bro check I'll say a serious thing like I don't get upset when he criticized me I don't honestly I don't get too high when people say nice things too low and people say bad things here's what pisses me off though when he engages in these anti-semitic tropes when he pushes hatred and bigotry into our political discourse it makes other people around here feel less safe makes them feel like they don't belong and it infects us and listen I got four kids I try and raise them to be good people you try and raise him to be the kind of people that you'd want in the leader of this nation KLA Harris is that kind of person you know no matter what you look like where you come from who you love who you pray to you belong here she believes that I believe that Donald Trump doesn't believe that and that is what's upsetting to me not that he calls me a a bad name or engages and attacks on me it's how it makes other people feel and the license it gives to people like him to they do the same thing you would think he would learn his lesson because he's already created an environment of political violence that clearly hadn't been safe for him so you think he learned his lesson nobody's safe that's a good nobody that's a really good point okay well um Governor I do have one more question for the governor are we okay with the staff we keep getting cussed out by want hold I'm at your mercy we good what do you say to people like I've been seeing uh the right say this a lot uh Democrats talk like they don't have the white house now they talk like they haven't had the White House 12 over the last 16 years how come Democrats don't speak like they are in the driver seat I'm not sure I'd look at it that way but I think what we have now as a result of what occurred over the last 30ish days or so um we got a change agent in kamla Harris we got someone who now gets to lay out a different Vision a different path forward and so of course she's going to take up the mantle of change we already know what the hell Donald Trump's going to do he did it for four years and you know what he did more chaos Less jobs and a whole lot less Freedom when he was in charge he wants to do the same thing yeah so like he's not the change agent KLA Harris is and so maybe that's sort of what folks are reacting to okay yeah well Governor you you're being gracious with your sta I was going to say anytime we always we don't always have six seats but we at least got four where you want to come and join native land P we'll you know welcome you on as guest host any day of the week when you're not y y'all want Baro Obama on oh my God y'all want Baro Obama on I'm not sure where that came from but you know what I'm going tell you cuz I don't want to talk you you definitely sound like him sometimes yeah on he got he got his sound from some places too so we it's we're we we'll agree with Joanna Joanna said he was preaching they both sound like they be preaching we need an organ all we need is the organ but the fans have to have well let's ask both of y'all before y'all go who had the best peach of the week then I love that who had the best peach of the week come on that's like asking Cho between my kids I I think Michelle come on Madam speaker and Governor the debate has been should she have been the closer she should have been the closer should have been she can close every night she can close every night open and closed and Governor I have nothing in front of me but it's just like you took my talking point but see they defer to the State Rep come back to you no we want you to close we want you to close I was on the floor taking selfies several feet away I love it I love it well the not the the message from that is become governor you know got term limits and stuff I'm just saying mark my words Joanna mclinton will be there I believe that I believe that we are so so grateful for both of you all for joining us tonight it's a big night celebrate it's your night and then get out to fight tomorrow thanks y'all going go hard