♪ ♪ >> Emily: HELLO, EVERYONE. THIS IS "OUTNUMBERED." I'M EMILY COMPAGNO. JOINING ME TODAY, FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR AND HOST OF AMERICAN DREAM HOME, CHERYL CASONE. FOX BUSINESS ANCHOR AND COHOST OF "THE BOTTOM LINE" ON FOX BUSINESS, DAGEN McDOWELL. POST OF THE "KENNEDY SAVES THE WORLD" PODCAST, KENNEDY. HOST OF "ONE NATION," BRIAN KILMEADE. WE BEGIN WITH YET MORE WHIPLASH COMING OUT OF OUT OF VICE PRESIDENT, HARRIS' CAMPAIGN. THIS TIME IT'S ABOUT ELECTRIC VEHICLES. THE HARRIS CAMPAIGN SENT OUT THIS "FACT-CHECK EMAIL" CLAIMING IT WAS A "LIE" THAT KAMALA HARRIS BACKS EV MANDATES. HOWEVER, HERE IS HIS OWN RECORD SUGGESTS OTHERWISE. IN 2019 SHE COSPONSORED A SENATE BILL THAT WOULD INDEED REQUIRE ALL NEW CAR SALES TO BE EVs OR ZERO EMISSION CARS BY 2040. THAT'S WHAT A MANDATE IS CALLED. THAT SAME YEAR DURING HER FAILED PRESIDENTIAL RUN, SHE DOUBLED DOWN ON THAT STANCE. WATCH. >> WILL EVERYONE HAVE TO DRIVE ELECTRIC CARS? >> BY 2045 WILL HAVE BASICALLY ZERO EMISSION VEHICLES ONLY. 100%. >> Emily: HARRIS WAS MORE AMBITIOUS ON HER 2020 CAMPAIGN WEBSITE WITH PLATFORM PROMISING ZERO EMISSIONS BY 2030. AS VICE PRESIDENT, KAMALA HARRIS HAS CHAMPION OF ELECTRIC VEHICLE FUTURE FOR AMERICA. >> IN THE YEAR 2021, THERE CAN BE NO DOUBT THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION IN OUR NATION AND AROUND THE WORLD IS ELECTRIC. THE AUTO INDUSTRY IS CLEARLY MOVING TOWARD ELECTRIC. HERE'S THE BOTTOM LINE: WE WANT MORE FAMILIES IN AMERICA TO BE ABLE TO AFFORD AN ELECTRIC CAR THAT IS MADE IN AMERICA. THE FUTURE OF TRANSPORTATION IS ELECTRIC. >> Emily: DAGEN, THE FUTURE IS ELECTRIC BUT MAYBE NOT ANYMORE, ACCORDING TO HER CAMPAIGN. >> Dagen: THIS IS OVER VERBIAGE BECAUSE THEIR FREEDOM FALLACY THEY ARE PEDDLING DOESN'T REALLY LINE UP WITH A BAN ON THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION ENGINE AND A BANDANNA ON GASOLINE POWERED VEHICLES. LET'S JUST CALL IT, IF -- CALL IT A DE FACTO BAN WHICH IT IS. THIS IS WHAT THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATIONS HAS DONE WITH THE TAILPIPE REGULATIONS PUSHED BY FIAT, NOT EVEN BY CONGRESS, TWO-THIRDS OF VEHICLES IN EIGHT YEARS MUST BE EITHER FULLY ELECTRIC OR PARTIALLY ELECTRIC. IT IS AN UNWORKABLE, UNIMAGINABLE ECONOMIC NIGHTMARE WHICH THEY HAVE DONE. HAS THE GOVERNMENT EVER SUBSIDIZED A PRODUCT THAT LOSES THIS MUCH MONEY? RIGHT NOW IT COST $13 TO $16 TO DRIVE 100 MILES AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE VERSUS LESS THAN $11 FOR A GASOLINE POWERED VEHICLE. THEY HAVE TURNED THIS WORLD UPSIDE DOWN. ALL OF THESE AUTOMOBILE COMPANIES ARE LOSING MONEY. IT WAS ABOUT 40,000 TO $70,000 PER ELECTRIC VEHICLE. I COULD GO ON AND ON. BUT WHEN WALZ SAYS "MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS," THAT DOESN'T REALLY LINE UP WITH HIM TELLING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE WHAT KIND OF CAR THEY HAVE TO DRIVE. >> Emily: KENNEDY, NOW THEY ARE SAYING IT IS A LIE THAT SHE EVER HAD THAT RECORD WHEN ALL OF US KNOW SINCE DAY ONE SHE HAS IN FACT ENDORSED THESE MANDATES. >> Kennedy: IT'S A VERY EASY CAMPAIGN TO RUN BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TAKE EVERY STATEMENT SHE'S EVER MADE AND NOW ISSUE A NEW PROPOSAL THAT IS THE OPPOSITE. SO INSTEAD OF A FACT-CHECK EMAIL, THEY ACTUALLY HAVE FACT INVENTION EMAILS. THEY ARE TAKING EVERY HORRIBLE POLICY PROPOSAL OR POSITION SHE'S EVER TAKEN AND THEY ARE DOING THE OPPOSITE. THEY ARE LIKE OH, THAT SOUNDS PRERATIONAL. VOTERS MIGHT LIKE THAT IDEA NOW. LIKE, MIND YOUR OWN DAMN BUSINESS, I'M SURE MANUFACTURERS WOULD LOVE TO MIND THEIR OWN DAMN BUSINESS AND PROVIDE VEHICLES CUSTOMERS ACTUALLY WANT TO BUY. THEY DON'T WANT TO BUY ELECTRIC CARS. WE ARE NOT THERE YET. THEY HATE THE FREE MARKET. SOMETIMES THE FREE MARKET, IT TAKES TIME AND IT TAKES WORD-OF-MOUTH. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE LIKE, WELL, I'VE GOT AN ELECTRIC VEHICLE CHARGING STATION IN MY HOUSE AND NOW MY ELECTRICITY BILL IS TRIPLE. SHE HAS FORGOTTEN WHAT IT'S LIKE TO LIVE IN CALIFORNIA WITH THE GRADE IN HER HOME STATE CANNOT SUPPORT A 20% INCREASE IN ELECTRIC VEHICLES LET ALONE A 75% INCREASE IN EIGHT YEARS. THEIR ARBITRARY DEADLINES. HISTORY WILL BE UNKIND TO HER IN TERMS OF THIS AND OTHER POSITIONS SHE HAS TAKEN IN THE PAST. >> Emily: SPEAKING OF HISTORY, WE HAVE FOOTAGE IN 2021 WHEN VICE PRESIDENT HARRIS WAS ATTEMPTING TO CHARGE ELECTRIC VEHICLE. >> THAT'S IT. >> THERE'S NO SOUND OR FUME. >> THERE IS NOTHING. >> ALL OF US WERE USED TO FILLING OUR TANK WHEN YOU USUALLY CAN SMELL IT AND YOU CAN HEAR IT. YOU CAN HEAR THE GUZZLING SOUND. NONE OF THAT. HOW DO I KNOW IT'S ACTUALLY WORKING? [LAUGHS] >> IT IS. >> Emily: THIS INTRODUCTION TO ELECTRICITY WAS HEARD AT THE TIME AGAIN TRYING TO MARKET HER CONTINUED SUPPORT FOR GOVERNMENT MANDATES, GOVERNMENT CONTROL AND THE OPPOSITE OF A FREE MARKET. NOW, OH, NO, NO, NO IT'S A LIE. >> Brian: EXPLAINED THE WHOLE BEN FRANKLIN WAS FLYING THE KITE AND HIS SON WAS THERE THEY DISCOVERED ELECTRICITY AND IT WENT THROUGH THE KITE AND THEY ALL GOT SHOCKED. IT WAS GOOD TO SEE HER WEARING A MASK OUTSIDE. WE KNOW THAT PANNED OUT GREAT. FANTASTIC TO KNOW THAT THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE ARE LEADING US IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. COSPONSORED THE ZERO EMISSIONS ACT IN 2020. AND THEN THE BIDEN-HARRIS ADMINISTRATIONS GOAL OF HAVING EV'S, ZERO EMISSION MODELS UP TO 50% NEW CAR SALES IN 2030. THE EVIDENCE IS OVERWHELMING THAT SHE IS FOR THIS. THIS IS THE GOOD NEWS. THE REASON WHY SHE WAS FOR DENNIS BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT IT WAS POPULAR. SHE THOUGHT THIS WAS THE RESPONSIBLE THING TO DO. SHE THOUGHT AMERICA WAS THERE. THE REASON WHY SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD IDEA NOT TO BUILD A WALL, BECAUSE SHE THOUGHT TRUMP WAS CRAZY AND AMERICA WOULDN'T SUPPORT IT. NOW 53% OF THE PEOPLE WANT THE WALL BUILT. ON EVERYTHING SHE HAS REVERSED YOURSELF IS THE STUFF WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT ON THIS COUCH AND ON "THE FIVE" AND THROUGHOUT THE NETWORK. THESE IDEAS PUT FORWARD, WE ARE NOT READY FOR, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR THE COUNTRY AND OUR SECURITY. NOW THEY ARE SO UNPOPULAR, SHE GOES, I CAN'T POSSIBLY BE PRESIDENT IN 2024 IF IRAN ON WHAT JOE BIDEN AND I THOUGHT IN 2020 WHICH SHOWS YOU THE COUNTRY IS SOBERING UP. WE WERE DRUNK FOR FOUR YEARS WERE 50% OF THE COUNTRY WAS AND NOW SHE REALIZES IF I RUN ON WHAT I HAVE THE COUNTRY WANTED, I WILL LOSE. I AM GOING TO DO THE UNFATHOMABLE THINKER AND I'M GOING TO IN REAL TIME REVERSE MYSELF AND HOPE NO ONE KNEW HOW TO WORK THEIR VCR. [LAUGHTER] CALLING OUT ON IT WE CAN'T BELIEVE IT'S HAPPENING. WHEN SHE SAID THE THING ON TIPS, WE ARE -- I'M GOING TO GET RID OF TAXES ON TIPS, THAT WAS A MOST ASTOUNDING THING. I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, NEXT THING YOU KNOW SHE'S GOING TO SAY "BUILD THE WALL." NOW HERE WE ARE, SHE WANTS TO BUILD THE WALL. >> Emily: HERE'S THE THING, SHE DOESN'T GET TO DO THAT. IT'S A NOBLE THOUGHT. AT THE END OF THE DAY. >> Brian: NO, IT'S NOT. LISTEN. >> Emily: I AM LIKE NO SHE DOESN'T GET TO CHANGE HER LINE AND TELL ME I'M A LIAR BECAUSE I'M SHOWING SHE DID FAVOR MANDATES ON TVs AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT REPRESENTED THE TOTAL CONTROL OF GOVERNMENT TO THE EXTINGUISHMENT OF OUR PERSONAL RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS. SHE DOESN'T GET TO JUST COME AROUND. A LOT OF PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVELIHOODS AND PEOPLE LOST THEIR LIVES UNDER HER POLICY. >> Cheryl: FORWARD, SCIENTIST, GENERAL MOTORS, THEY ARE BACKING OFF THESE EV PLANTS, GREEN JOBS THAT WERE PROMISED BY THE BIDEN-HARRIS DEMONSTRATION ARE NOT COMING TO FRUITION BECAUSE THE COMPANIES ARE SAYING, TO DAGEN'S POINT, NOBODY WANTS THEM AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO CONTINUE TO LOSE MONEY. THEY ARE SET TO USE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS EVEN WITH THE INCENTIVES FROM THE GOVERNMENT. LET THE MARKET PLAY OUT, AS KENNEDY SAID BUT AT THE SAME TIME HOW IS IT GOING TO PLAY OUT IN THE RUST BELT? J.D. VANCE AND WALZ, THOSE AUTO JOBS ESPECIALLY IN DETROIT HAVE NOT COME BACK AND NOW THEY ARE UNDER THREAT. DO YOU THINK THEY'RE GOING TO SAY I AM DEFINITELY GOING TO VOTE FOR KAMALA HARRIS. I'M ABOUT TO LOSE MY JOB OR PUT ON HIATUS FROM THE PLANT WHILE THEY FIGURE OUT THEIR NEW PRODUCTION LINES OR AM I GOING TO SAY DONALD TRUMP PROMISES ME I'M GOING TO HAVE A JOB BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO GO BACK TO GAS POWERED ENGINES. >> Emily: AND HIS IS THE WORD WE CAN ACTUALLY DEPEND ON.