okay well we can't turn the page until I point out that we actually have a familiar face with us it's someone you know very well who made a surprise appearance in New Zealand he flew himself all the way out there just to profess his love to you did he fly himself out here too I think he might have I'm talking of course about your ex-boyfriend Matt he's right over there how we doing hey Jesse Matt how we feeling I haven't seen you since ockland New Zealand I know you're looking great it's good to see you great to see you as well I talking to Jesse but it's great to see you too okay Matthew you didn't take the break up that hard I guess okay um do you mind if I come up in please get out here yeah I think we got some room you're good with it absolutely all right let's welcome out [Applause] everybody hi good to see you good to see you good to seeing you again you look way more rested than the last time I saw you it was a shorter trip this time yeah okay look man obviously you've seen Jen's Journey unfold now what would you like to say yeah I mean I think as fun as it was to watch you date you know 20 other men um some very long kisses uh sorry I'd say that you know I think I have a lot more empathy for where you were when we had the conversation I didn't know what I was walking into at the time for me it had only been a couple of weeks that you were gone but like now seeing the relationships that you had started to develop time did move a lot quicker there and I could see the intensity of the relationships that you were developing was it was quite the shock seeing you there it was very confusing in a sense that I was happy to see your friendly face but I didn't know why you were actually there so it it was a lot for me to unpack emotionally but I appreciate you so much as a person and you are someone that that has been important in my life and that has helped me grow so thank you for the grand romantic gesture and thank you for being you and being so honest and yourself and I only always wish you the absolute best yeah and I I I totally appreciate your perspective and I think I had to do everything that I could to know that any potential that we could have been together was explored I I do want to ask because I think a lot of people out there Wonder did you really in fact pay for your own flight to New Zealand were you there for as they say the right reasons so you really did reach out to one of our producers her name is Natalie yep say say hi to Natalie everybody this is our producer Natalie okay and this is the actual message message that you sent Natalie I'm going to read it here it says hey Nat I don't know if you're the right person to reach out to but figured I'd try I feel like Jen and I have some unfinished business and wondering if you could help a guy and his wiener dog out that was the only message I sent I put it out there although things didn't play out the way I would have hoped for them to I needed to do what I felt I needed to do to explore what Jed and I could I mean I'm not the type of guy that's going to on somebody right if you have your feelings if you're in love with Jen we all love Jen she's dope right the question that I have for you is just like why now March 28th was when she was announced The Bachelorette but she went on Joey season right before Joey season you could have chat with her right it's just the timing and the setting it's just doesn't make sense for me Jen and I did reconnect after Joey's season we were a support system I'm sorry as friends I'm sorry I'm sorry we were a support system for each other whether friends okay okay I feel like he got a lot of good Tik Tok content out of the trip though so that's good seems like this is all a conversation you could have had a couple years ago but here you are on TV it's crazy man okay Matt I really appreciate you being here putting a bow on this chapter let's hear for Matt everybody thank you certainly wish you the best [Applause]