what do you what do you think about going to a porn store five nights a week with a pizza he brings the pizza into the porn store goes into the back room and he's there every night sounds like a republican candidate for governor if I've ever heard [Music] one hello and welcome to the bullwark podcast I'm your host Tim Miller I'm here with my man Adam kininger former congressman from Texas head of one country everybody say hi to Adam kininger now Tim I live in Texas now but I'm a congressman from Illinois uh oh that's true you said I was a congressman from Texas I would have already beat Ted Cruz by now if that was the case cool I've already given I've already given away my last topic of this podcast um but we need to start with somebody that you know a little bit uh I don't know if anybody's seen the news here if you just guys just been hanging out it's Texas but Liz Cheney has said that she's voting for KLA Harris uh she said something interesting in her endorsement um I don't believe that we have the luxury of writing in candidates names particularly in swing States uh why don't you talk about that a little bit cuz some of our friends disagree with that they love to write in Ronnie Reagan's ghost yeah here here's the thing so first off obviously not a big surprise she did but I'm glad glad she did and I think the timing is great uh obviously it would have been great had she been at the convention but be honest you're thrilled that she wasn't there you got the prime slot great timing Liv perfect timing nice nice no but I think I I in terms of the writing in she's right now here's what I I I I will say to people that just say I I can't vote for comma maybe it's the abortion issue or something it's like okay if if you literally can't get there there's no problem in my mind if you can't get there of skipping the ballot line or writing somebody in at least don't vote for Donald Trump cuz part of that I fear that some of these folks are going to be like well I have to pick one this issue is so important to me so I guess I'll vote for TR we don't want that obviously but if you can stomach things you disagree with which by the way I'm married my wife and I have things we disagree with right a lot actually but let's talk about that top three top three disagreement yeah what is it money but like you've got to take a p if especially if you're a leader if you're somebody that people are looking up to as a thought leader an opinion leader and you took the stand somebody like Liz Cheney did you've got to take a pick look it's it's going to be Donald Trump or it's going to be kamla Harris and he is a real credible existential threat to our country she isn't so it's a pretty easy decision in my mind it is um I there was uh there there's one other part of uh her remarks that was not part of that vital video uh that bill Crystal put in the newsletter this morning I liked uh she writes I understand the desire to think that you're casting a vote for conservative policies but first of all you're not he's not a conservative and I think that that's like critical that she is out there making that case so this is like one of my biggest pet peeves is this idea that Donald Trump is conservative now I will say he inherited most of the conservative movement but he himself isn't I mean be clear he's a he's a nationalist he's a I don't even know what he I don't even think he knows what he is he's all about Donald Trump conservatism is about conserving things it's about kind of drawing back when you feel things have gone too far uh he has basically the opposite of that when it comes to constitutional issues when it comes to spending when it comes to our military policy to say you know we're going to kind of conserve America's role in the world no you're abdicating that role in the world and so there is nothing conservative about Donald Trump and by the way Tim I I use the example of like if you're in a trench okay and you're fighting like they're obviously fighting hard in Ukraine another big one of the most existential issues facing our world today is whether or not Ukraine can win but if you have an enemy that's 5 MERS away from you or one that's 50 m away from you and you and I are defending ourselves in this trench we are paying no attention to that 50 m enemy and let's call that political difference differences right if we didn't have this person right here then we could focus all we wanted on those kinds of things this is the threat to us and that threat is does my kid does Christian kinzinger get the privilege of being raised in a democracy as strong or stronger than I because right now he's not on that track to get that