you make me laugh Mark with this I can't believe they're unhappy they've got smartphones and Xboxes and we never did that's a beautiful contribution from the perspective I presume of early middle age because I would have thought you'd have thought the same I always remember my first producer on this program lovely bloke and he he used to get very R he was very mild mannered he very rarely lost his temper even working with me in my pretherapy days he very rarely lost his temper he was a was a masterclass of of of moderation and modesty and he used to get so cross about the phone in Trope of young people spending all their time playing video games and not instead of being outdoors because he would point out quite reasonably and this is 20 years ago goodness knows how much things have improved since then he'd point out quite reasonably that rather than having to stand in the dripping rain Frozen to your marrow while someone twice the size of you sat on your head in a scrum or pushed you over on the football pitch or or you running through the woods holding a stick and pretending it's a gun he pointed out you could sit in your sitting room with your best friends and actually play on a screen a level of football that you would never in a million years unless you would David Beckham be able to achieve on aot he used to get so exercised a Bas of course they're not playing outside have you seen the quality of the technology and I know that that's the point that Mart is making and it makes some I mean it has some uh so and then Chris comes in with exactly the same point and arrives at exactly the opposite conclusion he says it's obvious why they're unhappy they've got the smartphones and the computer games that we never had i' I've been smoking since I was 11 years old well I need to know how old you are now to really get the full measure of that statistic okay well I'm a young 57 year old that's 46 years that is Chris that's a long time yeah and the way it started was my dad used to smoke the the gold Virginia Ro up indoors yes so you're watching your your dad smoke and you think well that's cool and you think that's normal and acceptable and then you go and play in the park somewhere there's older kids there and they're smoking a cigarette and you say give me a two on that so you start having a drag on a cigarette right and now you think you're cool now you think oh yeah I'm all growing up now and um and it just flowed from there yeah and I think the smoking band in a garden you're absolutely spot on good look how the laws changed right so where will you go then where will you go for a crafty smoke well out of sight out of sight out of mine [Music]