♪ ♪ >> Kayleigh: IT APPEARS THE MEDIA IS TRYING TO COVER FOR DEMOCRATS' ISSUES WITH MASCULINITY. FIRST, THEY CAST MINNESOTA GOVERNOR TIM WALZ AS A "MANLY MAN." NOW THERE'S THIS, A "WASHINGTON POST" OP-ED -- I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS -- CALLING SECOND GENTLEMAN DOUG EMHOFF A "MODERN-DAY SEX SYMBOL." IT READS IN PART, "HE SECURE ENOUGH WITH HIS MASCULINITY TO PRIORITIZE HIS WIFE'S AMBITIONS OVER HIS OWN. WHAT A HUNK." THAT'S A "WASHINGTON POST." CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT? THAT HEADLINE IS PART OF A GROWING MEDIA NARRATIVES THAT CENTERS AROUND MANHOOD IN THE 2024 ELECTION, CLAIMING THAT TWO VERSIONS OF MASCULINITY ON THE BALLOT. LISTEN TO HOW CNN ANCHOR DANA BASH SUMS IT UP. >> THEY ARE DOING SO TRYING TO PUT FORWARD MALE FIGURES, TIM WALZ BEING ONE OF THEM, DOUG EMHOFF LAST NIGHT, WHO CAN SPEAK TO MEN OUT THERE WHO MIGHT NOT BE THE SORT OF TESTOSTERONE-LADEN, DONE THEM AT GUN-TOTING KIND OF GUY WHO WANTS TO LISTEN TO HULK HOGAN AND THEF PLAYERS THAT CAME OUT OF THE RNC, OR MIGHT WANT TO LISTEN TO THAT BUT ALSO, IN ADDITION, UNDERSTAND THAT IT IS OKAY IN 2024 TO BE A MAN COMFORTABLE IN HIS OWN SKIN WHO SUPPORT THE WOMAN. >> Kayleigh: AH, THE TESTOSTERONE-LADEN MEN. GOT TO BE ON THE LOOKOUT FOR THEM. THAT'S WHAT I CAME TO YOU FIRST HAVE YOU JUMPING OUT OF YOUR SEAT. THEY SAY PROGRESSIVE SEX SYMBOL. MOREOVER, MOVE OVER, RYAN GOSLING. THE FEMALE FANTASY INVITED BY THE MAN HE MIGHT BECOME OUR FIRST GENTLEMAN. >> Tammy: STEREOTYPES. ALSO, THE UNDERESTIMATION. WHO DID THEY THINK THEY ARE APPEALING TO? DO THEY THINK IT IS THEIR OWN BASE STILL STRUGGLING WITH WHAT A MAN IS, OR ARE THEY ASSUMING CONSERVATIVES NEED TO HEAR THIS SOMEHOW? IT IS AN OUTSTANDING DYNAMIC. I WOULD SAY WE MUST REGRET -- THIS IS AN EFFORT TO MAKE IT DEEPLY PERSONAL, THAT IT IS GENDER ISSUES. LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING THAT MATTERS TO BOTH MEN AND WOMEN REGARDLESS OF HOW YOU PRESENT YOURSELF. WORLD WAR III, JOINING IT FOR THE MILITARY. IF YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER OR HUSBAND OR WIFE IS GOING TO COME HOME IN THE NEXT YEAR BECAUSE OF A LIMITED NUCLEAR EXCHANGE. WHETHER OR NOT YOU DO HAVE GAS IN YOUR CAR TO GET TO WORK AFFECTS MEN AND WOMEN. AND WHEN IT COMES TO MASCULINITY, I'M SURE THEIR WIVES THINK THEY ARE THE SEXIEST GUY IN THE WORLD. BUT FOR EMHOFF AND HIS MARRIAGE PREVIOUSLY, THE NATURE OF CHEATING ON ONE'S WIFE, THAT IS NOT A MASCULINE TRAIT. THAT IS A CHEATER'S TRAIT. DONALD TRUMP OBVIOUSLY IS A GRANDPA, AND HE DOESN'T LIKE WAR. HE DEALS WITH MASS VIOLENCE, TARGETING PEOPLE. I THINK THAT'S A BIG DIFFERENCE THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CARE ABOUT. >> Kayleigh: I THINK THERE IS SOMETHING INTERESTING GOING ON BEYOND THE SURFACE OF ALL THIS. I'M CURIOUS IF YOU'VE SEEN IS IN YOUR DAY-TO-DAY LIFE AND IN YOUR BUSINESS. "THE NEW YORK TIMES" HIT ON IT. ON ONE SIDE ARE YOUNG WOMEN WHO ARE VERY LIBERAL AND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUNG MEN, SOME OF WHOM FEEL THAT RAPIDLY CHANGING GENDER ROLES HAVE LEFT THEM BEHIND SOCIALLY AND ECONOMICALLY, AND SEE FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP AS A CHAMPION OF TRADITIONAL MEN. >> Kevin: I HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TAKE ON ALL OF THIS NARRATIVE WHICH HAS BEEN AROUND A COUPLE YEARS NOW. TO ME, IT IS VERBAL POOPOO, AND HERE IS WHY. I LOOK AT THE WORLD I LIVE IN, 55 COMPANIES NOW, PROBABLY 10,000 EMPLOYEES IN THEM. I DON'T CARE WHAT GENDER THEY ARE, WHAT COLOR THEY ARE, WHO THEY ASSOCIATE WITH SEXUALLY. I COULDN'T CARE LESS. CAN THEY EXECUTE THEIR MANDATE? I DON'T CARE WHERE YOU COME FROM OR WHAT YOUR RELIGION IS. CAN YOU EXECUTE THE MANDATE YOU'VE GOT? YOU WILL RISE UP IN MY ORGANIZATION. I'VE GOT EVERY KIND OF PERSON, FROM EVERY NATIONALITY. I DON'T CARE. CAN YOU EXECUTE? MAN WOMAN, GENDER, YADA YADA, WILLIS, WILLIS, LIFT. I SIT THEM DOWN AND SAY, HERE'S A TASK. YOU CAN EAT GET IT DONE? IF YOU CAN GET IT DONE YOU'LL MAKE MONEY AND IF YOU CAN'T I'M GOING TO FIRE YOU. >> Kayleigh: THERE'S AN INTERESTING PIECE IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL. THEY MENTIONED WOMEN ARE SUPPORTING KAMALA, TRUMP HAS THE MAIL THOUGH. AND WHERE IS THE OUTREACH FROM EITHER CAMP INTO THE OTHER GROUP? FOR TRUMP, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HIM EMBRACE THE RUBIO AGENDA OF VULNERABLE WOMEN. BUT FROM KAMALA THERE IS NOT OUTREACH TO MEN AT THE DNC. ZERO WHATSOEVER DESPITE BEING BEHIND IN THE POLLS. SPEAK OF THIS IS WHY DEI IS LESS AND LESS PART OF CORPORATIONS. IT DOESN'T WORK, AND IT IS PANDERING AND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. AT THE END OF THE DAY, TALK TO US ABOUT WHAT MATTERS TO US. TAXES, HOME PRICES, GASOLINE, GROCERIES. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO CONNECT. BUT THE FACT THAT YOU ARE TARGETING A GROUP BASED ON GENDER DOESN'T MAKE SENSE, AND I THINK IT IS PANDERING AND FRANKLY STUPID. >> Kayleigh: EMILY, I WANT TO PULL UP THAT POLL I MENTIONED. TRUMP LEADING AMONG MEN 55-40. >> Emily: I WILL SAY I THINK THE OBJECTIFICATION IS HORRIFYING. IF THIS WAS THE POTENTIAL INCOMING FEMALE SPOUSE IN "THE WALL STREET JOURNAL" OR "WASHINGTON POST" OR "NEW YORK TIMES" RAN THINGS LIKE THAT, DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD ACCEPT THAT? WHAT MAKES PEOPLE THINK IT'S OKAY NOW THAT IT'S A MAN? I'M TURNED OFF BY THEM SHOVING THAT DOWN OUR THROATS PRAY SECONDLY, RYAN GOSLING, PLEASE DON'T GO ANYWHERE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. NOT AT ALL, NOT FOR DOUG EMHOFF. THIRDLY, HERE'S WHAT I FIND SO TELLING. AFTER THE DNC CONCLUDED, "THE NEW YORK TIMES," THE BASTION OF LIGHT AND ILLUMINATION, RAN A POLITICAL FASHION PIECE THAT COMPARED TO MEN AND TALK ABOUT THEIR UNIFORMS. AND THEY CALLED J.D. VANCE'S BEARD AND EMBLEM OF E-MEN FRONTIERSMAN SHIP THAT REFLECTED HIS MORE TRADITIONAL APPROACH TO GENDER ROLES. NOW OF COURSE THEY CUT HIM DOWN AND SAID MORE THINGS ABOUT WHY THAT'S TERRIBLE, AND THEN THEY WENT ON TO TALK ABOUT WALZ AND TO SAY HOW HIS REGULAR GUY CRED, HIS PENCHANT FOR PLAID SHIRTS AND OTHER COSTUMES OF REGULAR GUYHOOD, HOW ATTRACTIVE THAT WAS. WAS. AND YOU SEE THE SAME BRANDS AND TYPES OF CLOTHES ON PEOPLE LIKE DON JR. AND EVERYONE. THE WHOLE POINT IS EVERYONE WEARS IT AND IT DOESN'T MATTER. THE MEDIA WILL ALWAYS MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IT IS TOXIC IF IT IS ON THE BACK OF SOMEONE THAT VOTES REPUBLICAN, AND IT IS THE NEXT BEST THING IF IT IS ON THE BACK OF SOMEONE THAT VOTES WITH A D, THAT THEY CAN KEEP DOUG EMHOFF AND THE SUBJECT OF VACATION. >> Kayleigh: DOES A STUNNING EXAMPLES. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NOTICED AT