so LeBron James gave put out his quarterback Mount Rushmore and right now from top of my head I don't necessarily too hardly disagree with it but he definitely shouldn't have Patrick Mahomes up there and he needs to leave John way off of there and he needs to keep he needs to make up his mind first off and he needs to have Payton Manny on there no matter what you need to have I don't care you need to have it's disrespectful to not have Tom Brady pton Manny Joe Montana on that mountain Rushmore those three quarterbacks no matter what needs to be on every anybody's top five anybody's Mount Rushmore I don't care whatever of the quarterbacks those three quarterbacks need to be on there those three quarterbacks revolutionize the game I don't care P Manny has two rings anyway I mean pton Manny had Revolution ized the sport there is not too many quarterbacks who was as great as pting Manning who freaking dominated every single time he stepped on the field like no he needs to be up on there and to be honest I would probably even put Dan Marino on there even though Dan Marino doesn't have a ring but just talking about just pure quarterback play there's only so many quarterbacks I have seen play the ball play the game like Dan Marino so I mean out of that I don't really care who you put on there but you you can't just you can't I mean I just don't think Patrick Mahomes is a top five quarterback of all time I need to see more from him I need to see let me I mean I need to think about who else I would with my top five quarterbacks of all time I can't really think right now for the top of my head but I damn sure wouldn't put Patrick Mahomes in my top three there's no way in hell I will put him over pton Manny there's no way in hell I'll put him over Joe Manana there's no way in hell I'll put him this damn sure damn sure would to put him over Tom Brady so and then this is when we're talking about like all body of work everything Rings playoffs all that so I mean that's why I don't that's why I'm not talking about Justin Herbert or Cayla Williams or whatever like that because they haven't done those things yet but if you're talking about pure quarterback playing Justin Herbert is is a better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes and I also believe Kayla Williams is better quarterback than Patrick Mahomes too like they're just I just see them both play the game the position better the solely just the position the skill set fundamental skills better than momes but momes he benefits from a lot he does benefit from a lot I just don't think that he will be doing everything that he's doing outside of Andy Reed I honestly don't think that and we won't really see that for a long time because I don't know when any will ever retire but it's obviously he will retire before momes retired Mahomes is going to be playing for a very very long time and then we will start to see I I will really that's when I would really start to see how great momes actually is I think today a lot of people they don't have the patience to see a player's true actual greatness to unfold you know Patrick does these things so early and everybody just wants to all of a sudden just throw him in the goat situation I just think that's completely ridiculous so if People's going to do that then I'm going to say Justin Herbert is better than him you want to rush and put him in the same position as Tom Brady and Payton and put him over Payton Manny and stuff like that you want to do that okay then so you know what cuz he's Patrick Mahomes hasn't been in the league that long okay fine then I'm going to put somebody who's one who's who's his peer Justin Herbert is one of his peers who Justin Herbert is close mean too many everybody most vast majority of position um opinion Justin Herbert in the vast majority opinion Justin Herbert is a top 10 quarterback so Patrick Holmes is number one 10 is not too too far from one so if you're going to say if you're going to put Patrick Mahomes over Tom Brady or on the same breath with Tom Brady and over payon Manning I'm going to do the exact same thing with Justin Herbert and Patrick mahom I don't give a damn how many rings Justin Herbert has I don't give a damn how many playoff wins he has because I know it's a team sport and a lot in in Justin's Herbert's organization has a lot to do with how many rings and playoff wins he has had he would have as many wins and playoff wins in rings as as Patrick Mahomes would if he had a compal coach and so that's going to I'm going to be proven right after this season so I just know Justin Herbert is a better quarterback than him I just know he is so I don't want to get too deep on that you know I always some now seem to talk about Justin Herbert when I'm talking about Pat Mahomes or quarterbacking but I don't think LeBron's list is too far off but I think it's very disrespectful for him to be guessing about putting bank and Payton man out there I think that's completely disrespectful and what Shannon sharp says in this video I didn't watch the whole video so I'm going to play it but what Shannon sharp says in this video I think is ridiculous as well because he's saying oh number three is easy Brady Mahomes uh Brady Mahomes what was it Brady Mahomes who was the third one it was those three I can't remember who's the other one but Bray he was saying Brady Mahomes but it was the Mahomes that was irritating me yeah Brady Mahomes M he was like those are the three those are three those are like no-brainers no that's dumb it's those aren't the three the no-brainer is Brady Manny Manning momes those are the no-brainers not he's got me saying it not Mahomes Brady man Montana that's the no that's the no-brainer right there not moms and so that's what pisses me off is like this overrated analysis of Patrick Mahomes and he's hardly ever been in the league that long and on top of that he has arguably the greatest coach of all time coaching him offensive coach coaching him the quarterback Whisperer coaching him with arguably the greatest tight end of all time I want to see him outside of that people is knocking Brock pie for having all that star power and having his quarterback who was a great not quarterback his head coach who was a great K Shanahan who is a great head coach who also is pretty much a the quarterback Whisperer they're not they not they they're giving they're knocking Brock pry for that that you know that's a knock on him and I'm not even a brock py fan I wouldn't I wouldn't dare put Brock py in my top five maybe top 10 maybe I'll definitely have him my top 15 at the top of my head so but my my point is is that Brock pury at the time that he's been in the league he is doing great things he's winning games he's been to the Super Bowl he's did just as much as what Joe burrow did Joe burrow has not done anything more or lesser than Brock p and bro Joe burrow is on the vast majority number two list quarterback list just like that that's what I'm saying that's what I was say this video before about how so many people are biased biased biased biased about who they want to choose and who they want to pick and this channel I am breaking all that bull crap I am challenging the status quo I am completely unapologetically unequivocally not politically correct so we're going to go in watch this take watch this segment with Shannon with uh on ESPN First Take and yeah let's see what will be uh Tom Brady Pat Mahomes Joe Montana wow John no [ __ ] wow that's not fair for life is not fair but it's going to be it's going to be I I would do a toss up between lway and and and pman come on LeBron we don't do toss-ups between lway if he was on the show we make him n narrow it down right there uh but High honors from LeBron Shay you're a first do you agree with bronze list so he had Brady momes Montana just to reiterate and then a toss up between your guy Elway and your guy Payton Manning you better you better tread lightly I think said I I think I think I think Saturday's going to toss my guy Saturday's going to toss my guy and unfortunately I got to leave this guy off because I think he got the first three are very easy for me when you talk about Brady you talk about Montana you talk about Mahomes that the three are easy there are no doubters I don't I don't even know what the debate is when it comes to those three now it gets a little tricky when it gets to that fourth spot you got see what I mean that's what I'm saying talking about is tricky when you get to the fourth spot it's easy the first three no yeah you're right it is easy but how is it so easy if you're so wrong you can't just put Mahomes over Manny like that like that is that is just that makes me angry it it disturbs me I got I know Shannon Shar watched the same payt Manny I watched growing up I know he did I don't understand how he just automatically just puts Mahomes over him like that the things that Manny has done I mean you talk about a guy who just dominated defenses by just standing in the pocket I've hardly ever seen payt Manny run ever I hardly ever seen him run Beyond three yards but I've seen him destroy and I mean destroy every single defense that has ever been presented to a football player Payton Manning didn't need a football coach he was the coach the only player I would put over Payton Manny is Tom Brady that's the only player I would put over payman I think it's so I keep saying this I'm being redundant it is dumb to not have P Manny in your top two it's dumb I'm it's dumb and I I just question your judgment I challenge people's judgment I challenge what are you actually basing this game off on this guy left the Colts went to the Broncos who were garbage the year before he went there with Tim TBO and won the freaking Super Bowl with theane Team having pay Manny on your team is like having like 10 extra players on offense and defense that's what pton Manny was and I say that because pton Manny was like a freaking coach he was a field General I say that because this this is why I also say this because people don't realize when like especially like when you see college football you see the NFL you see how better a player becomes and you see how better a team becomes when they just get a different offensive coordinator let alone if they get a better Coach you know so they get a better offensive coordinator or a defensive coordinator or and or if they just get a better Coach the team just automatically just becomes better and then they lose and then you all of a sudden you see this player struggling the next year or whatever especially a quarterback you're like damn what's going on and if you're a nerd you'll be like oh most of the time that coordinator went on and got a head coaching job Payton Manny was that coordinator Payton Manny was that brilliant offensive minded head coach Pon Manny was that field General if you don't know what I'm talking about if you don't agree what I'm talking about then go back and do your research and see how Payton Manny will freaking slice up any defense that was presented towards him he was a defensive nightmare now he did struggle in the playoffs that's why I always put a Tom Brady over him but he only struggled in the playoffs for so long he got two rings how many quarterbacks that's two rings two rings on two different teams got pton Manning five MVPs two Super Bowls you get Jo uh uh John who I played with for a decade and he wins what he wins uh he wins two he goes to five um and then even if you want to throw Rogers in there or some of these other guys Bart Star Dan Marino but I'm going Elway I played with a guy a guy helped get me into the Hall of Fame I got a gold jacket I'm remember 267 uh the way he talked to me the way he coached me the way he was was with me in the locker room and on the field uh yeah seven gets it from me so I got Elway Montana uh Brady and momes first of all your emotions are understandable they're reasonable they're not beyond the cuff that's your teammate you said the brother got you into the Hall of Fame me my God I mean I get it I get it I understand I understand it but that don't make you right that don't make you right I'm and by the way to LeBron James LeBron James might have I mean he's the first he's the first future Hall of Famer a Mount Rushmore quality dude that might have disqualified himself from the damn Mount Rushmore with a Mount Rushmore that he put together I mean come on LeBron you know better you can't M Shannon Shar you cannot leave pton Manning off that list you just can't do it you can't say you cannot say that we've watched football and there are five quarterbacks there are four quarterbacks that deserve a nod ahead of Payton Manning or all time great number two in passing yards number one in TD I mean come on now this is B man oh by the way Shannon shop you'll appreciate this put just Saturday thank you Stephen A Smith thank you usually sometimes Stephen A Smith making me mad sometimes but then he be he be speaking that knowledge he be speaking that sense 530 line down pass the touchdowns 71,000 passing yards five time MVP five time NFL MVP bro who do that who does that Payton freaking Manny I'm not even a Payton Manny fan but I do recognize greatness when I see it for a year since I've been 14 years old I've been arguing about who was better pton Manny or Tom Brady but you cannot sit here and the blasphemy this is sacrilegious to even freaking say to not have pton man in your freaking top five top three top two come on man Stephen A thank you thank you Stephen A Smith you will never see this video more than likely probably never will but thank you for checking them on on this on this disrespect and and Sh shop up on this screen I want to look at these brothers what I'm talking them now for me with my little novice self just watching football from a I mean football is a sport I never wanted to play I looked at them big brother I like I don't want no parts of this I don't want no parts of this okay I just watched but when I watched you know it's interesting Shannon and and and and and Jeff Payton Manning came into the league and was calling his own plays more than a decade after no one was calling their own plays they did away with that damn near in the mid 80s okay I understand that you might have Jim Kelly and buffalo auding from time to time Dan Marino definitely did at the line of scrimmage or whatever we talk about Payton Manning here and what he did he was running the damn offense okay everybody knew that you have no offensive coordinator telling PT Manning what to do he walked up to pton Manning ask him asking pton Manning what he should do that's the difference see what I mean see what I mean and I I hav even watched this whole see what I mean see what I mean and I I Haven even watched this whole show I did I I turned it off right like right when Shannon sharp was was talking about how you cannot have just your top three cuz I he did not in your top three I I I I I turned the video off as soon as I heard Shannon sharp saying that the top three were easy because then it stru it hit a nerve it it it it I my my emotion started to raise and I was like I got to do a video on this I got to do a video on this that's what I usually do I'm watching this stuff you know or whatever I get a little inspiration I stop what I'm doing I'm doing I just go ahead and pop the webcam on and I I go ahead and do a video you know that that's that's my that's my strategy of making the content football content but thank you Stephen A thank you what Stephen A is really describing right now is what I just told you in in this earlier video payt Manny was a freaking Field General that's what you call a field General this man was make calling his own place decade decades before a decade before players started doing it this is how freaking brilliant Payton Manny was brilliant offensive mind he was born to play that position like I said before I said pton Manny Haven pton Manny he was like he was the offensive coordinator he was the head coach having P Manny was like having 10 players I'm still trying to figure out to this day was it Marvin Harrison Reggie rain Dallas Clark uh Edan James Joseph ad die was it them or was it was it them or was it actually Payton Manny who made them that because that's literally what he did when he went to the Broncos I rest my case man I rest my case I rest my case I'm just going to say that you don't know footb football if you don't have pay man top to just that simple okay this man was calling his own plays he was running the offense he was essentially an offensive coordinator at the quarterback position on the football field he's got two Super Bowl rings okay and on top of it all he's a five-time league MVP and oh by the way Shannon even though he had some running backs okay he didn't have Terrell Davis now stop this now we all know that when we talked about when that's right I said it when we talked about Elway is great as was is great as El and he was great please John Elway don't think I'm not I'm questioning your greatness I am not but that brother Terell Davis was something spectacular and everybody knew that that was the reason that John Elway finally got over the hump because a Super Bowl title had escaped them up to that point the back toback since 1997 and 1998 you know this Shay Shay you know this this man so so what was so what was uh Marshal fault and Edan James were they not any good they they would no no no no they were great they were great they won Terrell Davis at that time number one and number two and number two pton Manning pton Manning was flinging that football a lot come on now come on now just that they get him get him let me let me just say this let me just say this uh Marsha Faulk wasn't on the team and won the Super Bowl and Edge wasn't either unfortunately we we had Joseph ADI and Dominick Rose were our two running backs when we did win it and and and I wish edes Hall of Fame one of the greatest backs to ever play but I will I will say this LeBron bumped his head bro like he bumped his head on this Shay you know it and I know it John listen I'm not taking away John Elway but you saw them stat lines up there 20,000 more yards five MVPs say listen you can say what you want Manning was redefining the position when he came in similar to what Stephen A was saying changing plays doing that even the completion percentage a even close man like like this is a this is a it's a master class of why a basketball guy bumped his head trying to give a football guy some some some Mount Rushmore I listen I could make the argument and I won't because I love Montana as well that might not even I might go three for him on that side and and listen we talk about Super Bowls I get it Mona's got to be in a category of his own they were some real good freaking teams in San FR too now like like full team so when I look at what Payton Manning was able to do through his career for him not to be on Mount Rushmore is silly and I think I think if you watch that video close of LeBron you played it back slow he knew he messed up as soon as he said it he was like oh I shouldn't have said it he tried to stay strong to it but he knew he made a mistake as soon as he said it should have changed it B hey let's make this switch no no ties we don't do no ties on this show it's one of the other Manning's on it Elway's just off to the side that's all there is to it hey I'll be 1,000 with you I kick all their asses off and put seven on there cuz I ain't win no super bowls with none of them other than number seven so I don't know what y'all talking about in just Saturday you know if they would if they would have allowed the defenses to play defenses like they did when the in the 80s in the 990s when I got to the league when all these guys you know you saw those hits where you could you could do whatever you wanted to the quarterback there was no you could only hit him in his chest you couldn't hit him in his knee you couldn't put your helmet in his back you couldn't P drive him that's all they did to the quarterback so that I I I was I was hoping they was going to play the whole segment but that's fine we watch enough of it we got the point Mor of the story P Manny top two quarterback of all time and you better not have any kind of top five without having Tom Brady P Manny Joe Manana and your top three in that order chronologically it has go back and study the game some more man if you don't have it go go back I I'm not I'm not taking any uh there's no debate about this no opinionated no opinions that's that's that's the way it is period all right so we leave it on that note thank you so much we going to be back back here tomorrow I got a special guest joining me tomorrow I'm excited about that his name is Andre Andre Dawkins he's actually Brian Dawkins nephew I met him at the NFL combine that I was at early this year and so I'm really excited he has a really brilliant mind of in football he we're going to do we going to keep it simple this is our first our first segment our first show together first Duo we're going to just give our Super Bowl predictions and we're also going to talk about the T and Bri Brian Flores situation as well so that's going to be exciting that's going to be fun I'm looking forward to this and yeah I I I I I love this channel I love what I'm doing I love the content I'm putting out and I got more content coming for y'all and we going to be back here tomorrow and stay tuned all day [Music] [Music] you [Music]