uh now let's talk about two dozen attorney generals writing to 25 major asset managers including Morgan Stanley and Alliance Global Investors alleging that in voting for environmental proposals flagged by activist group series these companies knowingly and willingly violated their legal obligation to act in the best financial interest of their clients this is again a very interesting de velopment kosher in the fight against ESG uh it's incredible because 5 years ago you would not have expected that ESG was just running rampant um it was a philosophy that businesses thought they had to uh enshrine into how they worked and now there's this fight back saying no this is not in your shareholders interest and uh you could actually face an investigation yeah the push back is definitely coming with either fire ings of these entire positions and in different institutions or this taking legal action and in the financial sector it's one of the few where you can draw a pretty straight line between the fiduciary responsibility of asset managers or people on Boards of those companies and the recommendations that they're making so that's the angle that these AGS are going with now the other side of course um has very good legal representation and they'll defend that in the court of law with its full you know with full Vigor I'm sure so I'm not sure where the legal Fallout will be but it is interesting that there is push back coming at every level well it's essentially leftist activism that was forced upon corporates whether they liked it or not there is as you said this fight back happening in in the US locally in Australia is there even any awareness at all that what about what this is how it's been used and perhaps it not being actually a good thing for society or for the business World in general it would be an interesting one just like here the the super fund industry is so big and all that and to kind of dig into that a little bit um we've talked about this before that in some Trends I always feel like Australia is 5 years behind what we see in the US so maybe this is a leading indicator and then you'll see the ripple effect show up here well let's hope those ripples come soon because yeah there just seems to be a complete lack of awareness of what this is now we talked about kamala's border wall flip flopping and uh it's going to be a a used against her because there is plenty of evidence of her being all for open borders in her 2019 book The truths we hold Harris called the idea of a border wall not only useless and nothing more than a symbol a monument standing in opposition to not just everything I value but to the fundamental values upon which this country was built in her social media post during the Trump Administration she also called it stupid and medieval vanity uh a medieval vanity project but now now she's saying she'll back a border security bill that includes a $650 million pledge for a new border wall construction kamla Harris has spent decades fighting violent crime as a border state prosecutor she took on drug cartels and jailed gang members for smuggling weapons and drugs across the border as vice president she backed the toughest border control bill in decades and as president she will hire thousands more border agents and crack down on fentel and human trafficking fixing the border is tough so is kamla Harris I'm kamla Harris and I approve this message in that Camala ad Trump's border wall actually featured in the ad that was a bad move was supposed to believe that these policy changes the back flips uh are all just a natural uh realignment of her values but no one's really buying that no one's uh buying that she's gone from defending people paying people Smugglers to bring them across the border saying she'll back free health care for illegal immigrants she wants to accelerate their path to citizenship to now saying she's going to build walls I don't think anyone's buying it she is not really a candidate I look at her as a a product the outcome of a marketing campaign by the machinery and this election and what's going to be on the ballot is how powerful that machinery and marketing campaign is of the Democrats versus uh candidate Trump because if this does sell with enough people that the election which is very very tight right now swings in her way it will mean that all of the stuff that's on the record her own book is you cited in 2019 she's been in the public eye for 20 years didn't get cut through and somehow she was just able to take a a wand and you know make it all vanish so it'll be very interesting to see how this plays out absolutely now several members of Tim Wall's extended family in Nebraska have been pictured in walls for Trump t-shirts in a clear sign they are in opposition to their vice presidential candidate relative those in the photo are related to walls through his grandfather's brother so I think these are like second cousins but even his own brother Jeff has uh posted on Facebook that he is 100% opposed to Tim's views commenting that he has thought hard about getting on stage with Donald Trump describing his brother as not the type of character you want making decisions about your future this is pretty harsh I mean we saw the media go big on some random Trump relative who they could find who was against Donald even though they had very little contact with with with the family I wonder how they're going to treat this because you've got the cousins they're the second cousins whatever they are but to have the man's own brother come out so strongly yeah cuts through I suspect they'll try their best to to suppress that as they do but you're right I think that was Mary Trump Trump's niece um we also saw with RFK Jr and just two weeks ago five of his siblings came out and were very very critical of his decision to uh endorse and support Trump so when you see it in that way the coverage will be more than here I will say in general I'm not a fan of family members airing Dirty Laundry outside I think it's it's such a betrayal isn't it it is and letting politics come into it but that said in his case there is a Nar ative that's taking hold about something is off with Tim wals fairly or not I feel like that between The Stolen Valor issue and other aspects about him and this does feed into that even though um I I agree I think it would be nice if family members kind of yeah kept quiet it's a bit Harry and Megan for me kosher G thank you so much for your time this pleasure