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hey ladies and gentlemen this is Carmine Sabia for explain America and the Avalanche of disastrous reviews being given to the ABC News moderators of the Donald Trump and Camala Harris debate it just got worse and possibly the worst condemnation they could get from the co-chair of the presidential debates commission before we get started please make sure you like comment share and subscribe those little things really help us out and they help our Channel continue to grow and if you're not watching us on YouTube guys please check the address in the lower right hand corner it's youtube.com/ expain America when you get there hit subscribe absolutely free it really helps us out so the head or the co-chair of the presidential debates commission was giving an interview and he was talking about the job that was done by the ABC debate moderators and this is a guy who's been involved with this for over three decades and he explained what they teach moderators to do which is you don't fact check it's a debate between the two candidates if they want to fact check each other they can but you don't do that you certainly don't pick sides and you certainly don't try to bury one candidate and assist the other well according to him that's exactly what happened at the Abc debate according to me that's exactly what happened at the ABC ABC debate according to most of you that's what happened at the Abc debate it was absolutely abely shameful it was a black mark a stain on the news industry on journalism on debates it's going to go down as one of the most biased gang assault debates in the history of this nation by a moderator who absolutely despises Trump and David mure and another moderator Lindsay Davis who is a sority sister of Camala Harris headed by an ABC News president who inro roduced Camala Harris to her husband Doug mhof this thing was so lopsided it's like it's like playing a baseball game in the opposing Park and you're not even giving bats I mean that's what happened here and then they call it fair I want you to listen to what this man had to say CU it's very insightful and then let me know what you think in the comments the co-founder and co-chairman of the nonpartisan commiss presidential debate CPD Frank J fenov Jr joins me good evening sir and what happened that these debates by CPD which have been going on for decades which for the few bumps in the road but now why are the networks now doing these I think they want to make a couple of bucks that's one of the reasons they took it over uh it really came about when when we got a letter uh in early June from the White House saying that the president B Biden would not participate in any debate conducted by the commission Donald Trump had already indicated he would debate with us if we were going forward we had already scheduled three debates four debates with a vice presidential in colleges across the country but once that came to a a crash with the bidens not willing to participate then they went to CNN with a take leave it plan uh they got to dictate uh the format totally different format than we ever used uh and also dictate who the moderators were and how it was to be conducted and uh and then breaking we did 90 minutes as you know Greta without interruption no ads uh of of any sort so they really changed the whole nature of things and I was really quite surprised when uh former president the Trump agreed to this early on to this totally different way to go well what was in it really for I mean um as President Biden made did it first he said that he wanted CNN gets to determine that he gets to fuss about whether they're microphones or not microphones he gets to fuss about the format I mean it I mean I mean there weren't a lot I don't remember any complaints about uh the CPD I mean there may have been from time to time some issues but this does seem like a dramatic change and and I realized why the networks wanted the money but I don't get why President Biden was so uh forceful about it my guess is and I don't know I don't know you'd have to ask that little small group that were in the White House advising him on this matter uh I think it may have been that they knew our debates would require the president to stand there for 90 minutes and spent 15 minutes discussing in detail various subjects and I guess they felt that they that perhaps again I don't know this from my own knowledge I'm just guessing this so they therefore thought if they could put him in a debate format where he only has to go for two minutes on a subject maybe with a one minute response that it would be more in his favor I have to believe that was the motivation I have to tell you though that it really is sort of disheartening to hear that because the American people want transparency want a fair debate they don't want people gaming and now you hear that the networks are sort of up to their eyeballs in sort of you know whether it's tilting it one way or another in order to get the debates because there's money I mean it's rather disheartening because this it is and I thought one of the things that really that really shocked me last night was the way the moderators handled it you know we always explain to our moderators and we've done 33 of those grits starting back in 1988 that job is to be facilitators they're not to get involved themselves it's different than if you had someone on your show and you asked them a question and they answered in a different way than they said a month before you would correct them but moderators are not supposed to do that a debate is between the candidates not a debate between the candidate and the moderators and these moderators as so far as I was concerned it was the worst performance that I've seen and I've as I said I've done 33 of these things over the years I I don't know what their thought were but they clearly were oversized I think on the way they treated the the former president and way they treated the Pres vice president I think they bent backwards to help her Frank fenov thank you very much for joining me sir and I hope that the the two parties come to their censes if not by the end of this term in four years um but anyway sir because it's it's always worked and it's been a great service thank you thank you gr coming up at our most [Music]